Jermareo's Time is now

[ohara831]

Guys, I'm sorry if some of you disagree. I'll respect any and all differing opinions. However, Oak was bad last night. Hollins was more inept than I expected, and Primoz played only a few (6) minutes. Bottom line is 0 pts from anyone playing the Center position. Nothing! Watching Hollins miss layups and even dunks from right there at the basket made me more angry than watching our FG% plummet.
I know Jermareo is not strong enough to play the 5. But he has a very nice 10-15 foot jumper, he seems pretty quick to come and help on the inside and get a block (huge wingspan on that guy) and he is willing to crash in there and go after rebounds - something others seem afraid to do or either incapable of doing.
We need to play Jermareo at the 4 and let Okafor play the 5. Jermareo has earned the playing time more than the other guys, and he seems to be bringing more to the table than Walter Herrmann so far. Sit Hollins and Primoz for a while and let Jermareo learn as he goes along.

I love our 2 rookies! To me, Jermareo and Dudley bring a fire, attitude and intensity which this team needs. Notice in the Sun's game, Dudley was intense and seemed pumped up every time he'd go inside for a drive and get fouled. He WANTS it, bad! Jermareo wants to get rebounds, and his long wing span is helpful in that respect. Plus, he looks to help on Defense and always seems to be in position for rebounds or to block a shot.

I think these 2 rookies can help pump up our main guys. Heck, if they pump us up just watching on TV, they have to have that kind of effect on their teammates, don't they?

Just my 2 cents. Supporting or opposing views welcomed.

[dav7z]

I agree to a point Davidson should be in the rothtion and Dudley should start. That kid can ball rebound and has energy

Hears Dudleys and Davidsons numbers

http://www.charlotte.com/508/story/351325.html

[ohara831]

I agree to a point Davidson should be in the rothtion and Dudley should start. That kid can ball rebound and has energy

Hears Dudleys and Davidsons numbers

http://www.charlotte.com/508/story/351325.html
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How would you fit Dudley in the starting lineup? Move Gerald to the 4? Dudley is too small for the 4, but could play the 3. How would you do it?

[Mustachio]

after last nights pathetic attempt at basketball... ill be pissed off if the starting lineup doesnt go something like this.

McInnis, Jrich, Crash(reluctantly), Davidson, Okafor.

Davidson didnt have a superstar player guarding him and it was usually a smaller guy, but still the kid needs to start cause Hermann looked god awful. and Primoz well....

[ohara831]

after last nights pathetic attempt at basketball... ill be pissed off if the starting lineup doesnt go something like this.

McInnis, Jrich, Crash(reluctantly), Davidson, Okafor.

Davidson didnt have a superstar player guarding him and it was usually a smaller guy, but still the kid needs to start cause Hermann looked god awful. and Primoz well....
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That would be my starting lineup. And the first time I could, I'd have Dudley in as well.

[Dunk]

It's been 3 games so let's not make a lot of conclusions about the season just yet. Davidson and Hollins should be getting more looks than Primoz right now. But to put anything else on them in terms of expectations is way too early.

[Mustachio]

Davidson should absolutely start over Hermann and any other PF option we might have though.

Hermann should be used to spell Crash and thats it. If Walter cant play any better than that against Brian Marks or whoever the hell that was and Skinner... then he doesnt need to be anywhere near PF.

[ohara831]

I think I read somewhere that Coach said there would be so specific starting lineup over the first few weeks. He wanted to let that develope. Did anyone else read that? If I did not imagine that, then I would think he very well might shake things up a bit and give the younger guys a chance to prove themselves - and improve themselves as well.

[Shrimpy_Jackson]

I'm not quite understanding what's going down with Herrman, I figured the way he exploded at the end of last year he'd big a big big part of the bench this season, but the minutes he got in the pre-season and what he's shown thusfar has me a bit disappointed. Maybe it's a rhythm thing, he got more minutes towards the end last year and lit it up, did Vincent make a wrong move by slowing down his development this year or was Walter's play at the end of last year a fluke? I mean I'm sure it'll get better and there were moments when he was spot on and hustled quite a bit. I'm getting a little worried but it's only one game. Plus I hate watching the Suns play because more so than any team I watch they get every foul called in their favor.... makes me so mad my eyes turn green and the incredible hulk tattoo I have starts flexing and attempting to leap off my arm.

[Dunk]

It could be that the style Coach wants to play isn't conducive to what Hermann (or Carroll) can do. If that's the case then make a move while the value is high.

I'd try and give Hermann a chance to make some moves to the basket. He seems to be able to do that. We've only got one other player on our team right now that's effective in that aspect of the game (Wallace). For a team that was supposed to run and bang the hoop we haven't done a lot of that yet. We should be literally taking the Suns playbook and using it. We have basically the poor man's version of their roster. Turn it into a track out there.

I'm not a big fan of letting things develop during the regular season. The games count. That's what practice and preseason is for.

[Slam]

Davidson is a affraid of contact.

[Wallace15]

I'd love to see Davidson get the starting nod at 4. He's already shown more in 1 game than Hollins and Primoz did in 3 games. Hollins was missing easy lay-ups and dunks. Primoz hasn't seemed to do anything right so far. Davidson showed he can defend, rebound, and he has a combination of post moves and a nice jump shot. Hermann just needs more minutes to get into a groove. Once that happens he'll be lighting it up.
Oh, and Dudley is a BEAST. A double double in just 20 minutes of play. He definitely earned more PT last night.
Once Coach V gets all the rotations figured out and we're rolling on all cylinders then we'll be in great shape.

[Slam]

I agree to a point Davidson should be in the rothtion and Dudley should start. That kid can ball rebound and has energy

Hears Dudleys and Davidsons numbers

http://www.charlotte.com/508/story/351325.html
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How would you fit Dudley in the starting lineup? Move Gerald to the 4? Dudley is too small for the 4, but could play the 3. How would you do it?


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How is it that Dude is too small for the 4 but Crash is ok to play there when Crash is 6'7" 220 and Dude is 6'7" 225????

[spectre]

I think Duds can play the 4 sparingly because he seems (not a lot of games yet...but) to find good position and he's kind of pigheaded.

Crash can play the 4 because he can jump like 3 feet higher and is loaded with athleticism.

Oh, and Davidson is too soft. He can't start nor pull big minutes yet...the opposing PF/C would kill him. He did have a nice trailing block, but for the most part he was getting beat on defense. Sweet finesse shot though.

[Mustachio]

i dont care what lineup we go with as long as primoz and hermann dont get more than 10 minutes per game.

those two look lost.

[ohara831]

I agree to a point Davidson should be in the rothtion and Dudley should start. That kid can ball rebound and has energy

Hears Dudleys and Davidsons numbers

http://www.charlotte.com/508/story/351325.html
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How would you fit Dudley in the starting lineup? Move Gerald to the 4? Dudley is too small for the 4, but could play the 3. How would you do it?


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How is it that Dude is too small for the 4 but Crash is ok to play there when Crash is 6'7" 220 and Dude is 6'7" 225????
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Slam, I was just going by the eyeball test. Crash looks so much more cut and athletic, I did not pay attention to the actual height and weights. Crash is definitely stronger, so I guess that is more what I mean by he can handle the 4 better than Dudley. But, if you think that Dudley can handle a 4 spot, let him try if the right matchup presents itself and he will not be out sized or out weighed by much.

[Dunk]

Dudley seems fairly solid in terms of physical presence. I think playing the 4 is half mental anyway. What I noticed last night is that once he got a couple of baskets he started to bang down low which he didn't do in his limited opportunities the first couple of games. That's encouraging.

His confidence might be high right now. Give him a good 15+ minutes in Philly to see what he can do against their starters. Maybe the rook will bring a spark that we need around the basket.

[Slam]

I agree to a point Davidson should be in the rothtion and Dudley should start. That kid can ball rebound and has energy

Hears Dudleys and Davidsons numbers

http://www.charlotte.com/508/story/351325.html
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How would you fit Dudley in the starting lineup? Move Gerald to the 4? Dudley is too small for the 4, but could play the 3. How would you do it?


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How is it that Dude is too small for the 4 but Crash is ok to play there when Crash is 6'7" 220 and Dude is 6'7" 225????
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Slam, I was just going by the eyeball test. Crash looks so much more cut and athletic, I did not pay attention to the actual height and weights. Crash is definitely stronger, so I guess that is more what I mean by he can handle the 4 better than Dudley. But, if you think that Dudley can handle a 4 spot, let him try if the right matchup presents itself and he will not be out sized or out weighed by much.



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Fair enough ohara. I actually think that Dude is more suited to the 4 than Crash though. Dude is more rugged plus a little smarter than Crash. While Crash is by far the superior athlete, Dude does the little things like boxes out and positions himself well.

Plus playing Dude at the 4 means that Crash wont get worn down during the game and have a negative effect on the offensive end.

[ohara831]

Slam: I concede to your point on this matter. You have convinced me of your position on the issue. Perhaps it would be interesting to try Dudley at the 4 as a starter. Although, I really like giving Jermareo his time there as he may turn into a player we really did not expect. That would be nice.

[ALong13]

You guys know I'm a big fan of Jermareo Davidson, and I think he should start, with that said I also believe he needs to use his body a bit more, but I still think he's an upgrade over Brezec & Hollins...

[davcbow]

Hum alot of complicated theroies. 1)Felts 2)J-Rich 3)Wallace 4)Duds 5)Mek
or 1)Felts 2)J-Rich 3)Wallace 4)Mek 5)Davidson
I'd try them both in regaurds to the opposing teams match ups.... :g:

[kjk2241]

I agree that Davidson and Duds both need more playing time, but i like their roles off the bench. They are both energy guys that can play for extended periods of time if necessary.

I am not sure how Davidson will do starting at the 5 though. To be honest our starting C isnt being asked to do anything but take up space. Let him come in off the bench and give the team some energy. As a rookie starter I would be concerned about foul trouble.

As for Hermann, it might take him longer to learn a new system. It took half a year with Bernie's system and maybe he is having trouble with this system as well. Give him time. He was very clutch last year and that is something that you cant teach.

[Muttley]

I just finished watching last night's game (again). Taking into account that Dudley and Jermareo's minutes were mainly up against second-stringers, no one can argue that they've earned a good deal more playing time in the future after their play last night. Dude seriously looked like he had something to prove and he proved it. He was very driven out there, and while I was originally tentative about thinking of him as a 4, after Slam's concise argument I can't disagree. We should let him start at the 4 tonight. I was also concerned with starting him as a rookie, but the kid's got such an attitude that he's not gonna succumb to the "too much pressure" sentiment that Adam was prone to last year. (To Adam's credit, he was under A LOT more pressure last year.)

Really, though, at this point I just expect to see more from one guy: Gerald Wallace. After the awesomeness that was the Milwaukee game, he's kinda been "blah." Still my favorite Cat, and I fully believe he will end this season with excellent numbers and contributions to this team in all categories, but he's gotta get it going.

[Mustachio]

START DAVIDSON. WE NEED BIGS. HES BIG. HE CAN SCORE. mek can play his defense for him.

[Wallace15]

I don't understand why we don't give him a shot at starting. Yes, he's a rookie, and yes he's a little soft, but can he really do any worse then Primoz and Ryan have done? He's plays better defense than both and has a better low post game. Mustachio's right, with Oak down low with him he won't have to do that much on defense. Just grab some boards and he'd be fine.

[davcbow]

START DAVIDSON. WE NEED BIGS. HES BIG. HE CAN SCORE. mek can play his defense for him.


Agreed, Davidson can move with the faster guys and he can score, right now we need guys that can score in that position. His defence will improve with time, so give this young man some playing time coach...... :g:

[WarioVsMooChicken]

It's hard to believe that a 36th pick rookie could start right away, but dammit he looks like starter material.

On another note, I have faith in Herrmann. Even though he may not be scoring, he is rebounding well, and the ofense looks a good bit stronger with him out there. He just looks confused, which can easily be because of his lack of playing time in preseason. I bet by the 10th game this season or so, he'll be back to his old self.

[davcbow]

Yeah I will 2nd that. Id like to see Herrmann, Davidson, and Dudley get more minutes and not wear out our big 4 players.... :g:

[timang]

he'll get enough burn to make a case for the next season IMHO.

[davcbow]

The way Primoz is playing and Hollins he may get his chance before the end of this season.... :g:

[dvdbumpus]

The way Primoz is playing and Hollins he may get his chance before the end of this season.... :g:


Yes, please. He's wasting space. Might as well allow Davidson to get some burn...

[Wickdakid]

I can't explain how much I hate Primo. He's a 7 footer, plays most of the game, and gets like 2 rebounds. I know he's European but dam, what else does he do?? It's definitely not scoring. I do think we need start Jarmareo or Dudes. I think V's still playing with the lineup though. We'll see.