Felton 2nd best point guard in the east

[dav7z]

Ever one talking all the junk about Felton and hell hes more than likily the 2nd best point in the East.
And hes not far from being the the best . So read this befor you begain to hate.

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/playerrankings/regularseason/PG

[Wallace15]

I don't understand most of the Felton bashing that's been going on so far this season. Felton's played great this year and has had some really good games. Nobody should be critcizing his play.

[110oldeast]

dav,

That's an uphill battle in Charlotte now with the hyperbolic spin that has surrounded the coverage of him from day 1 (who remembers Kareem Rush jacking up crazy shots and playing no defense in the opening day Bulls comeback only to have Bonnell pin it on Felton's pg performance?). I will say that Chauncey Kidd certainly would/should get the nod over him, but the kid is playing at a high level and doing as much for this team as anyone else on the team while being at the top of the most consistent list. I know it's a sin to say that outright, but its true. Heck, Gerald Wallace said that he was the player they could least afford to lose before Philly (Bonnell cut that quote out when he rehashed the AP story the next morning) and while it is between Mek and him, its true.

Unfortunately for him, he was drafted in one of the best pg classes in recent history with 2 other guys in Paul and Williams who are really talented, are playing really well, while having been in good fits (system and surrounding personnel) for 3 years. Conversely, Felton is getting his first taste of that in helping trying to continue the ascension of an expansion team. Further, he is in a situation where the Charlotte beatwriter has a monopoly on the attention given and up until this point has been dead set on Brevin Knight as the pg, SPINNING every positive into a negative and every negative into a catastrophy in the case of Felton.

The reality is that he is a tremendous YOUNG pg (Paul and Williams are not the only pgs out there and are the exception, not the rule) who is finally getting the chance to play the spot KNOWING he is his coach's guy and learning the ins and outs of his teammates. This team is not as great and unflawed as we Charlotteans think, ESPECIALLY with the loss of Morrison and May. The fact that we have performed at the level we have should count as a positive to the POTENTIAL and FUTURE of the Bobcats AND Raymond Felton.

He should have a legit shot at All-Star consideration AT THIS POINT, but quite probably won't due as much to a lack of support in Charlotte as much as anything else.

[123together]

felton has played a lot better this year than last year. his shot has improved and i think it is awesome when he takes over in the 4th quarter, getting to the FT line. i saw the boston game, he could get to the rim at will, and if he continues to do that, the cats will be solid and rays numbers will continue to be solid

[bizzlecatz]

Jared Dudley is also on the list as a PF. :g:

[ReesieNCPantherCatfan1]

I agree that Felton is hardly the problem. I have been pleasantly surprised with his play so far, so I don't understand the criticism (some of the ABCers?). I don't know if i would call felton the 2nd best in the east, but he has been very solid. If he keeps up with this pace, maybe i would concede the 2nd best in the east at seasons end (I hope I do!)
With the injuries we have had so far I think we are doing fairly well at this point. We have never had a better record after 13 games as we do now, and with 2 winnable games coming up we could be 8-7 next week. I think if we can hit 40 wins we can squeak in with the 8 spot in the east.

[Muttley]

As a life-long ABCer and Wolfpack fan, let me just say I thought the Bobcats pulled the right move when drafting Felton and I think that without him we wouldn't have won the 6 games we have so far this season. Having to constantly be compared to Paul and Williams is simply unfair to Ray.

On the sunny side, being lumped together in conversations with Paul and Williams is somewhat a testament to the caliber of player we have in Raymond Felton.

[davcbow]

I feel there isnt nothing wrong with our main 4 players, they are getting better each game. Even Primoz is getting better, Ive noticed it in the games Ive watched and its even starting to show in his stats. I think alot of folks are just impatient and just want a championship without the growing pains, sort of like the NBA owes it to us or something. We are a young team and improving every game, even with the injuries we are still getting better. Coach V shows his inexperience at times but his decisions are starting to get better. He is getting better too. Im happy with our team because we are definately better this year than we have ever been so far. As far as Raymond goes, he is getting better also and it too is showing up in his stats. He still has things to learn and figure out; He will get it down.

Go Bobcats!!!! :g:

[dav7z]

Im telling you guys Felton has the best chance to become a all star this year. Him and Ok50 unless Shag gets another free pass. Felton is the 2nd best point in the east behind Kidd and is bypassed Billops . Hes getting better ever game and by all star break he should be putting up better numbers than Kidd as he's getting better ever game. Felton has that swager about him like a star is tough and is determined to get better.
Right now him and OK50s play will determine how good we really are . More than Wallace and Rich.

[Dead_Real]

Agreed Felton has improved on every game and he only seems to be getting even better since the injury getting rid of Brevin has done wonders for him as you could see we saw a taste of the potential during the latter parts of his rookie season but now it seems like the skys are the limits I hope he continues to get better.

[MattD]

yes felton has done a lot to impress me this season from my earlier comments, and i am really happy, he has been locked in when he needs to be, note he was the one to pull down the rebound of paul pierces shot, and he got fouled, to bad... he did miss one crucial free throw but... its ok he played great

[dvdbumpus]

I'd point him out to be the 3rd best PG right now behind Kidd and Billups. T.J. Ford is also an excellent point in the east, but without Felton we wouldn't be where we are right now.

What needs improving is the post presence. We are one of the worst teams in opposing team offensive rebounds, which is a direct result of no Mek help.

Things we are good at: perimeter defense, perimeter offense, fast break points. We are obviously good at other parts but that's where we have a definite advantage.

[dav7z]

I'd point him out to be the 3rd best PG right now behind Kidd and Billups. T.J. Ford is also an excellent point in the east, but without Felton we wouldn't be where we are right now.


Agreed our best power foward is ranked 50th . Whitch means most teams back ups are better than our starters. Well really our best p/f Dudley is ranked 50th.
Felton ranked 7th and 2nd in the east speaks volumes.
Ok50 all so ranked 2nd in the east all so speaks volums.
With Crash and Rich both ranked in the top 20in the Nba in wings is no shabby either .
Coach V. fans, management,and other teams all know our weakness. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
Premoz, Fabio, Dudley, Davidson , and or draft picks or a combination should be put on the table to fill the gaping hole.



What needs improving is the post presence. We are one of the worst teams in opposing team offensive rebounds, which is a direct result of no Mek help.

Things we are good at: perimeter defense, perimeter offense, fast break points. We are obviously good at other parts but that's where we have a definite advantage.

[Jonathanmartin7]

I'd give him 4th best. I'm also a huge fan of his. I just can't rate him above Paul,Arenas,Kidd, I would tie him with billups but givwe billups the edge based on experience only. So that would make him 5th.
Don't get me wrong I think he is a marvelous PG, but better than Areans, or Kidd, nope not yet.

[110oldeast]

Arenas is a LEAD guard more than a point guard. He's a 2 guard masquerading as a point guard. But then again Tim Duncan is a center who began masquerading as PF because he didn't want to deal with Shaq in the past (not that anyone did; why the center position disappeared).

And Paul is in the West.

[Mustachio]

count me in as an ABCer that loves Raymond Felton.

I hate everything about Carolina, but Felton was the one guy i always did respect and kinda dig.

im gonna get killed for sayin this... but i think the identity struggle is coming from Gerald Wallace. I love him. everything about him, im just not sure hes made to be our identity. Like in Utah, they have Boozer, Williams, and AK 47. Crash and AK are both stat stuffers and play vital vital roles in their success. BUT weve lost two games out of 10 or so already directly by anti-clutch Crash plays. I think Raymond is the closest thing to real clutch star power ability we have.

Think about it. Who would you rather have driving to the basket with 10 seconds left. could go either way right... yeah well whos gonna hit their free throws? its gotta be raymond.

Basically i like this team and you all have to remember one very very very key thing in all this conversation.

We are still only 11 games into a new season with a new coach. Not everything can be decided just yet. give us to all star break before we go jumpin off bridges.

[spectre]

Well said.

I have a theory on Crash. If you've noticed he's not driving to the basket like he was last year and this year's preseason. I think V is so worried about Crash getting hurt that he's trying to stress more on his perimeter game vs. just driving with reckless abandon.

That ain't gonna get it. That's what makes him "Crash", and we'll struggle so long as he's not being himself.

[Jonathanmartin7]

wow, Paul is in the west. How'd I screw that one up, lol. That shows how odd the divisions are, NO is on the eastern side of America right? but they are a western team, my bad. I still say that Arenas is a pg. yes he can play both and shoots a lot for a pg but he still starts the offense etc. and he is WAY better than Felton, as is Kidd. Billups on years played etc. so he's 4th not 5th. Still in just a few years there will be no more Kidd or billups so he'll just be trailing Arenas.

[aznjustice14]

felton is racking up the stats, and i love him (his field goal percentage is increasing as well) but it would be nicer to have less turnovers even tho we do run a more fast paced offense now. i kno thats askin a lot...but it would really help our team out more.

[walkerl]

Raymonds unforced turnovers are killing me. He falls down at least twice a game, dribble off his foot, a lazy pass here and there. Yeah, he is shooting a lot better, but he needs to stop the unforced turnovers...

[dnbman]

Raymonds unforced turnovers are killing me. He falls down at least twice a game, dribble off his foot, a lazy pass here and there. Yeah, he is shooting a lot better, but he needs to stop the unforced turnovers...


Yeah, I'm a huge Felton fan, but those TOs are killing me too. What makes it so bad is that 90% of the time he's great, but the other 10% of the time, he's terrible. I can't believe he's dribbled it off his foot twice in a week.

[spectre]

Raymonds unforced turnovers are killing me. He falls down at least twice a game, dribble off his foot, a lazy pass here and there. Yeah, he is shooting a lot better, but he needs to stop the unforced turnovers...


Yeah, I'm a huge Felton fan, but those TOs are killing me too. What makes it so bad is that 90% of the time he's great, but the other 10% of the time, he's terrible. I can't believe he's dribbled it off his foot twice in a week.


Since they're supposedly cracking down on the palming call that was the "dumb" TO I thought he'd be getting all the time.

There's turnovers and then there are turnovers. Trying to thread the needle thru two guys going for an uncontested dunk is one I can deal with...off the foot and the other stupid ones tear me up.

One thing I noticed last year was that Felton tends to get really sloppy after he's been on the court 8+ minutes straight (not saying that was the case for the foot thing) so a credible backup might help.

[bizzlecatz]

Talk about beating a dead horse to death.

Felts is the 2nd best point guard in the East period. behind Jason Kidd,
and I have him and Chris Paul on my fantasy team 8)