ohara831
12-12-2007, 08:13 AM
I know that when I mention using Ray in a trade, many of you disagree. I wanted to see exactly how he stacked up against all the other starters in the NBA. This does not include back ups with serious minutes, only the 30 starters per the ESPN Depth Charts for the teams:
Ray is tied for 8th in pts
Ray is 11th in assists
Ray is 13th in rebounds
I then looked at them and asked myself " Where would I rate Ray in total as far as PG's go, and here is my list of those I rate well ahead of Ray:
D. Williams, T. Parker, S. Nash, C. Billups, J. Tinsley, C. Paul, J. Kidd, A. Miller and B. Davis.
*That would put Ray around my #10 PG in the NBA. Then, I looked at the few around the same as Ray, or nipping at his heels so to speak. The numbers would suggest: D. Gibson, M. Williams, B. Udrih and TJ Ford.
In summation, it seems to me that Ray is somewhere between the top 1/3 to 1/2 of NBA starting PG's. His TO's, not so great FG% and his leadership are all things which we can see as taking away from his value or adding to his value. These are solid numbers, but it is far from spectacular. You do not give up someone like that unless you have someone in place to replace him of equal or greater value OR you have an adequate back up who can start temporarily and you are given another player who helps you greatly somewhere else or a high draft pick or both.
**For those of us who have been hard on Ray, we need to see that he is not that bad. For those that think it heresy to discuss trading him, he ain't all that and a bag of chips. He is good, but definitely not great. Then ask ask yourself the most importaint question of all:
"Is Raymond Felton a good enough PG as to enable us to win an NBA Title?" He does not have to be the MAIN REASON we win, but he has to be solid enough and make wise decisions enough to NOT COST us the Title. If you trust him that much, so be it. If you have a question,then you need to evaluate the situation don't you?
Ray is tied for 8th in pts
Ray is 11th in assists
Ray is 13th in rebounds
I then looked at them and asked myself " Where would I rate Ray in total as far as PG's go, and here is my list of those I rate well ahead of Ray:
D. Williams, T. Parker, S. Nash, C. Billups, J. Tinsley, C. Paul, J. Kidd, A. Miller and B. Davis.
*That would put Ray around my #10 PG in the NBA. Then, I looked at the few around the same as Ray, or nipping at his heels so to speak. The numbers would suggest: D. Gibson, M. Williams, B. Udrih and TJ Ford.
In summation, it seems to me that Ray is somewhere between the top 1/3 to 1/2 of NBA starting PG's. His TO's, not so great FG% and his leadership are all things which we can see as taking away from his value or adding to his value. These are solid numbers, but it is far from spectacular. You do not give up someone like that unless you have someone in place to replace him of equal or greater value OR you have an adequate back up who can start temporarily and you are given another player who helps you greatly somewhere else or a high draft pick or both.
**For those of us who have been hard on Ray, we need to see that he is not that bad. For those that think it heresy to discuss trading him, he ain't all that and a bag of chips. He is good, but definitely not great. Then ask ask yourself the most importaint question of all:
"Is Raymond Felton a good enough PG as to enable us to win an NBA Title?" He does not have to be the MAIN REASON we win, but he has to be solid enough and make wise decisions enough to NOT COST us the Title. If you trust him that much, so be it. If you have a question,then you need to evaluate the situation don't you?