View Full Version : Rick Carlisle for Coach NOW Thread
Why is this man wasting away in an ESPN studio????
Pistons 01-02
Record: 50-32
Playoffs: Lost in conference semis
Pistons 02-03
Record: 50-32
Playoffs: Lost in conference finals
Pacers 03-04
Record: 61-21
Playoffs: Lost in conference finals
Pacers 04-05 (brawl season)
Record: 44-38
Playoffs: Lost in conference semis
Pacers 05-06
Record: 41-41
Playoffs: Lost in first round
Pacers 06-07
Record: 35-47
Playoffs: -
This is a no-brainer in my opinion. The guy obviously knows how to win in the East and knows how to get his teams to the playoffs. He was able to take that demented Indy team the season after the infamous brawl all the way to the conference semis! In my opinion that's even more impressive then the 61-21 record (which by the way was the best in the whole league that season).
I think it's an absolute damn shame that a talented, smart guy like Carlisle is sitting on the sidelines and a retard like Vincent has a head coaching job. It just reflects on the state of the NBA as a whole.
ohara831
02-13-2008, 06:44 AM
I'd be for him as Coach.
amour217
02-13-2008, 07:44 AM
If you read Larry Bird's book he wrote as a coach, he constantly praises Rick Carlisle, who was his assistant. From what I gathered, he's a big-time tactician who likes to watch game footage and use that combined with stats to determine what will work best for the team.
He's had a good history of success with teams of veterans, young players, and hotheads. I've heard his personality can be a tad abrasive, but that could just be an isolated incident, who knows. He's not a run-and-gun coach, to my recollection, but that's fine by me. He's got a proven track record
Muttley
02-13-2008, 08:47 AM
If you read Larry Bird's book he wrote as a coach, he constantly praises Rick Carlisle, who was his assistant. From what I gathered, he's a big-time tactician who likes to watch game footage and use that combined with stats to determine what will work best for the team.
So he's a coach that puts actual thought and work into his decisions?
I'm for him!
Mustachio
02-13-2008, 10:10 AM
If you read Larry Bird's book he wrote as a coach, he constantly praises Rick Carlisle, who was his assistant. From what I gathered, he's a big-time tactician who likes to watch game footage and use that combined with stats to determine what will work best for the team.
He's had a good history of success with teams of veterans, young players, and hotheads. I've heard his personality can be a tad abrasive, but that could just be an isolated incident, who knows. He's not a run-and-gun coach, to my recollection, but that's fine by me. He's got a proven track record
Hes not a run-and-gun coach, but neither is Sam Vincent. Sam also is not a defensive coach. hes a 2 point guard coach... and we know how well that works.
If he would accept id be all for this move. if for nothing else to restore a little bit of dignity back to the franchise.
MattD
02-13-2008, 04:25 PM
please lets do anything, anything right now. This team needs it
BIGCatBobcat
02-13-2008, 05:57 PM
Do they even let him talk on ESPN anymore? I think he's freakin great. I was trying to think of who we could bring in. Larry Brown is not the answer, I think Paul Silas is too old, I don't want another "next hot coach" or former player that bought glasses once he retired. Bring him on, if he'd have this heap of uninterested, over-tired, talentless, non-working team we have. Right Sam? Do you think even FSS, let alone ESPN, would take Sam when he gets out of coaching?
bizzlecatz
02-13-2008, 06:25 PM
This is a young promising, talented team. They need an Old School,highly respected Coach. One that will break them down, rip them apart, and build them back up at the same time.
Why is Larry Brown not the answer, and Paul Silas too old.
ammofan
02-13-2008, 08:15 PM
Bring in Carlisle!!!!!
This is a young promising, talented team. They need an Old School,highly respected Coach. One that will break them down, rip them apart, and build them back up at the same time.
Why is Larry Brown not the answer, and Paul Silas too old.
I fail to see all this "promise" that you talk about in our team.
bizzlecatz
02-15-2008, 10:12 PM
This is a young promising, talented team. They need an Old School,highly respected Coach. One that will break them down, rip them apart, and build them back up at the same time.
Why is Larry Brown not the answer, and Paul Silas too old.
I fail to see all this "promise" that you talk about in our team.
That's because you are impatient. The team is young, and all around the same age. They can grow together. The foundation is almost complete.
What is needed is a good architect (meaning coach), and the sky is the limit for this team. Apply some vision to what we have in place, and I'm sure you will find something promising to build upon.
A old school coach along with a good GM will mold this team into a power house.
Don't get me wrong we have a few holes that need plugging, but lets not trade a part of the foundation (Mek), for another piece of the foundation (Jamison). The goal is to have them both, to complete the foundation.
davcbow
02-15-2008, 11:24 PM
The team is young, and all around the same age. They can grow together. The foundation is almost complete.
What is needed is a good architect (meaning coach), and the sky is the limit for this team. Apply some vision to what we have in place, and I'm sure you will find something promising to build upon.
A old school coach along with a good GM will mold this team into a power house.
Don't get me wrong we have a few holes that need plugging, but lets not trade a part of the foundation (Mek), for another piece of the foundation (Jamison). The goal is to have them both, to complete the foundation.
Agreed that would be a pretty sight to have Mek and Jamison both in Bobcat Uniforms. The goal is to get all the right peices in a Bobcats Uniform and not to trade peices for peices..... :g:
I don't think you guys are looking at our situation rationally. We don't have the talent to ever be successful with the roster we have now, I don't care who becomes our coach.
How much time to they need to "grow"? Wallace, Okafor, Felton and Carroll have been together three years now and the only one that has shown improvement has been Wallace while the other three have regressed. JRich is a great addition but we'll never achieve anything in this league if Felton doesn't become a top PG or if we don't bring in/draft a top PG.
Muttley
02-16-2008, 01:05 AM
That's because you are impatient. The team is young, and all around the same age. They can grow together. The foundation is almost complete.
What is needed is a good architect (meaning coach), and the sky is the limit for this team. Apply some vision to what we have in place, and I'm sure you will find something promising to build upon.
A old school coach along with a good GM will mold this team into a power house.
Don't get me wrong we have a few holes that need plugging, but lets not trade a part of the foundation (Mek), for another piece of the foundation (Jamison). The goal is to have them both, to complete the foundation.
Wow, that is extremely well stated.
Mustachio
02-16-2008, 03:43 PM
I don't think you guys are looking at our situation rationally. We don't have the talent to ever be successful with the roster we have now, I don't care who becomes our coach.
How much time to they need to "grow"? Wallace, Okafor, Felton and Carroll have been together three years now and the only one that has shown improvement has been Wallace while the other three have regressed. JRich is a great addition but we'll never achieve anything in this league if Felton doesn't become a top PG or if we don't bring in/draft a top PG.
Felton is a top PG. With the 2 worst coaches the NBA has ever seen Felton has still managed decent numbers.
I hate UNC so im not a homer. But this Raymond Felton sucked idea is so stupid. He has never had a system to play in. Chris Paul, Brandon Roy... all have systems that they were plugged into. they have good offensive spacing and that enables a point guard to work. We have none of that... weve never had anything even close to an offensive system. We play basic offense because we have a terrible coach. Put Raymond in a decently spaced properly managed system and he has all the tools to accel. If you think Raymond Felton isnt a good point guard. your not watching him.
dnbman
02-16-2008, 05:58 PM
If you think Raymond Felton isnt a good point guard. your not watching him.
I agree, but I also think a person's opinion of Felton could change dramatically just by when they happen to blink during the game.
His high and low moments strike like lightening.
Dead_Real
02-17-2008, 09:08 AM
I'm pretty sure if we trade Felton he'll breakout elsewhere especially with a decent coach that runs a system like Must stated.
dnbman
02-17-2008, 09:40 AM
I'm pretty sure if we trade Felton he'll breakout elsewhere especially with a decent coach that runs a system like Must stated.
I completely agree, which is why I'm so hesitant to trade him for pork & beans and some random player who happens to have "point guard" on his basketball card.
ALong13
02-18-2008, 06:55 PM
I think the starting 5 of Felton, Richardson, Wallace, Mek, and Nazr can get us somewhere, we just need to improve our bench and our coaching, with that said I don't see Carlisle coming in, while I'd love for him to come in, I don't see Jordan firing Vincent after just one season sadly...I say he'll get at least one more shot after this year tbh...
davcbow
02-18-2008, 07:46 PM
I don't see Jordan firing Vincent after just one season sadly...I say he'll get at least one more shot after this year tbh...
I hope and pray you are wrong about that...... :g:
Muttley
02-18-2008, 08:53 PM
I don't see Jordan firing Vincent after just one season sadly...I say he'll get at least one more shot after this year tbh...
I hope and pray you are wrong about that...... :g:
I could maybe take another 30 games of it, but there's no way I would want watch this for another year.
There may be tears...
Mustachio
02-18-2008, 09:34 PM
I think the starting 5 of Felton, Richardson, Wallace, Mek, and Nazr can get us somewhere, we just need to improve our bench and our coaching, with that said I don't see Carlisle coming in, while I'd love for him to come in, I don't see Jordan firing Vincent after just one season sadly...I say he'll get at least one more shot after this year tbh...
Jordan fired his first coaching hire in Washington after just one year. Jordan isnt as stupid as a lot of people would like to make him out to be. The man knows basketball. the man knows business. the man can make a mistake. and he can fix it when he realizes it. if this staff/player tension continues and the results are still bad... Sham Vincent is gone.
MattD
03-23-2008, 06:42 PM
I think Carlisle is going to Chicago. Bummer. I seriously wonder if we are going to get a change this summer.
ziggy
03-23-2008, 07:03 PM
If Vincent doesn't get canned this summer, I would imagine that its going to hurt their season ticket renewals. Every season ticket holder that I've spoken to has been less than pleased with Sam this season.
timang
03-24-2008, 10:28 AM
not now, but how bout next season? any other potential coaches to choose from?
WarioVsMooChicken
03-24-2008, 11:17 AM
Just make me coach, end of story.
dnbman
03-24-2008, 12:39 PM
Just make me coach, end of story.
My offense would change the game. It would consist of three guys forming a wall, ala a soccer free kick, while the fourth guy runs around them and jumps for an alley oop, which the pg would be looking for every play.
I may even use the occasional hand boost to launch guys extra high.
If I coach, I guarantee you we win less than 15 games. However, every game would be wicked entertaining! :afro:
davcbow
03-24-2008, 12:48 PM
Just make me coach, end of story.
My offense would change the game. It would consist of three guys forming a wall, ala a soccer free kick, while the fourth guy runs around them and jumps for an alley oop, which the pg would be looking for every play.
I may even use the occasional hand boost to launch guys extra high.
If I coach, I guarantee you we win less than 15 games. However, every game would be wicked entertaining! :afro:
Heard that... :biggrin:
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