Our go to guy at the end of games

[MattD]

This is something that has been eating at me since last night, where i nearly broke down and cried when I saw what Sam Vincent planned to do. Raymond became our go to guy with three seconds left. Remember the game back against houston, gerald was our go to guy then.

Heres the important part. Both times didnt work. Now Raymond hit that 3 to push the cavs into ot. But he missed a shot to give us the win in that game too. Ray missed a freethrow that would have tied the game. Sorry but I love ray's driving ability, but seriously what the hell is sam vincent thinking.

Who is a proven end of the game guy on our team? JASON RICHARDSON

Lets see he only grabbed a rebound as a guard, flew down court, and hit a three to win the game against the Mavs in the PLAYOFFS. He hit everything he shot when we were making our 4th quarter push, even banked an off balance three (but it didnt count). He missed in OT after being fouled and the ball was partially blocked. We pay him the most, he is the best pure scorer on the bobcats so Sam why the hell arent we going to him?

Also that inbounds play involved three guys standing in a line while ray ran around them. WHAT? Seriously, we are looking for ANY, ANY shot that is open and we can hit. Instead we limited our options to one, decent finisher with the rest of our guys clogged up and not open.

Please help me find some justification for why we ran that shitty play for ray and didnt look for jrich to win the game?

Fire Sam Vincent

[ohara831]

There is no justification. It was not righteous!

[ammofan]

I think Vincent likes his point gurads! He is crazy....

[dnbman]

I didn't watch the game, so this is no comment on the play.

However, when it comes to a go to guy, Richardson is great but often has significant troubles at the line.

Felton, meanwhile, has hit a bunch of big shots and is usually money at the line at the end of games.

So, in pure terms, I'd feel good but with slight reservation about both guys. However, I wouldn't second guess Vince for designing a play for Felton. However, I would second the actual play he designs, as well as 98% of all decisions he makes, including where he parks, what he eats for lunch and the kind of pen he chooses.

Suffice to say, I don't have a lot of faith in ANY of his decisions.

[Dead_Real]

I didn't catch the end of the game either but I have quick question did the Kings double team Richardson in the final minutes of OT and we just couldn't get the ball to him? I mean dude did have 29 points...which might explain Felton being the one taking the game in his hands.

[MattD]

nope. and more importantly the play at the end of the game was designed purely for only 1 player, if your going to design it for one, design it for Jason imo, but really it should have been a spread floor for lots of options

[davcbow]

Ham Biscuit's logic - lose bad enough and we won't need a go to man.... :(

[Dead_Real]

nope. and more importantly the play at the end of the game was designed purely for only 1 player, if your going to design it for one, design it for Jason imo, but really it should have been a spread floor for lots of options

Oh ok but yea I agree with you J-Rich should be the bail out guy for us that's why we brought him to Charlotte.

[amour217]

At this rate, our go-to guy at the end of games is Sam Vincent...we blame him for every loss

[TheBeagle]

That last play happend down at the end of the court where I sat up behind the Kings bench. Raymond was definitely not the first option; Jeff was grimacing that he had no other option than to give it to Raymond in the corner with his back to the basket no less. Too busy watching Jeff to see where he was going to throw it, but he was looking top of the key at first, probably for JRich, though I'm not sure, but a screen must have missed, and Raymond was forced to come to the ball.

That said, Vincent has no clue about late game strategy. You gotta be kidding me that you can't do a stagger screen or something to get JRich the ball. Seriously, the Kings are good at getting steals, but not that good at ball denial that a well planned screen or two couldn't have gotten him open.

[MattD]

That last play happend down at the end of the court where I sat up behind the Kings bench. Raymond was definitely not the first option; Jeff was grimacing that he had no other option than to give it to Raymond in the corner with his back to the basket no less. Too busy watching Jeff to see where he was going to throw it, but he was looking top of the key at first, probably for JRich, though I'm not sure, but a screen must have missed, and Raymond was forced to come to the ball.

That said, Vincent has no clue about late game strategy. You gotta be kidding me that you can't do a stagger screen or something to get JRich the ball. Seriously, the Kings are good at getting steals, but not that good at ball denial that a well planned screen or two couldn't have gotten him open.



vincent said after the game he was trying to get it too felton, but maybe mcinnis has more sense then that?

[TheBeagle]

vincent said after the game he was trying to get it too felton, but maybe mcinnis has more sense then that?
Jeezus. That is nauseating to find out that the play was for Raymond. WTF!!! There's no doubt in my mind that Jeff has more sense than Vincent. The incompetence of this guy knows no bounds!!!!! MUTINY!!!!

[BobCatsFanInTx]

At this rate, our go-to guy at the end of games is Sam Vincent...we blame him for every loss
I wouldn't say that we make Sam Vincent a scape goat for all our losses but let's not kid ourselves this man has not gotten near the kind of production out of these players that a sub par coach in Bernie Bickerstaff did. Bernie had his players playing hard nearly every game and seemed to respond to his players and their abilities and what worked as the season progressed. I have seen very little hope on this team growing and working in a successful system. Sam Vincent is too set on his ways and is not flexible enough. A good example of a coach who learns how to change and grow is Houston coach Rick Adelman. For a time it looked like Adelman may have lost his touch but the Rockets are taking off as of late and I believe that is the result of a coach who listens to his players and studies the game and learns by trail through fire. A flexible coach is a successful one.

I will end this by saying that though Sam Vincent is not responsible for every loss he is responsible for blowing quite a few games with dumb logic and he does not seem to have the respect of the players. Bernie Bickerstaff is no HOF coach but he at least had players that responded to him and genuinely wanted to win for him and each other. I see players who only play hard for half or a little more than half a game when it seems they have no confidence in Sam Vincent. Last year the Bobcats played close and competed nearly every game night. The result of that was a strong second half of the season and obvious continuity among the players and coaches. I almost would like to have seen how the momentum of last year would have carried over with Bernie at head coach. He may have cost us some games with bone headed decisions but he also may have been responsible for some wins by being a coach the players liked and respected. I rarely see anything resembling a light hearted moment between coach and players on the bench. Notice the one thing beyond X's and 0's that winning teams have? It is chemistry among coaches and team mates. This team lacks chemistry as much as anything else.

Well I have vented enough and really probably won't have much else to add on this subject. I just hope the Bobcats get a Super Star in the draft and they dump the coach as well as any other garbage holding this team back.