The Michael Beasley Thread

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Is he a true NBA PF? They listed him at 6'10", but he sure doesn't look that big on TV. What are your thoughts on Beasley, hes putting up crazy numbers but will his game translate to the NBA level?

[dav7z]

I think hes solid and if we have a chance we should scoop him up. If hes gone then we should look to Jordon, Hibbert,and the7.3 kid from ucon.
Rose and the other points are decent but not CP3 decent . They closer to a Felton decent. I still feel Felton will be very solid point with a decent coach.
We have to go with a big because thats a gaping hole thet has to be filled. IF we could sign say a Jamison then Rose would be a great way to go.

[timang]

crazy stats :o

[davcbow]

I wouldnt mind having Beasley and Rose, wish we could make a deal for a 2nd 1st round pick.... :g:

[ohara831]

Beasley is my first choice, Rose is my 2nd. We can live with Ray at the PG, even tho Rose will be far better after his first yr. But Beasley is exceptional. Scores, rebounds, and has some attitude. He is exactly what we need. That is why he will likely go #1. BUT, if Miami has #1 and we had #2, Miami would likely take Rose first as they need a PG more than a PF. And Rose will be very very good.

[Dead_Real]

^Rose+Wade combo would be sick and would also make me sick to my stomach knowing we would have to play them atleast 3 times every season :(

[Slam]

Beasley is that good and with the right attitude and maturity will develop into something very special.

He's going to be like Bosh - if Bosh was as strong as an Ox.

[MattD]

Him and Derrick Rose and the bobcats would be sick. Ray and Sean and Nazr and Matt and Jermar and duds off the bench and wed have a hell of a squad. Morrison... who needs him?

[Dead_Real]

Gotta another chance to check out Beasley tonight on ESPN at 9 O'clock Kansas St vs KU.

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Gotta another chance to check out Beasley tonight on ESPN at 9 O'clock Kansas St vs KU.

I'll be watching this one closely

[Slam]

Me too. Looking forward to Beasley Vs Authur.

[ohara831]

Beasley is such a treat to watch. I've seen him like 5X this yr. Only once did he have a subpar game. had like 14 pts and 10 brds or something close to that. If you have not seen him much, watch how he seems to be where the ball is on rebounds - very reminiscent of Dennis Rodman. And when he works inside with the ball, watch how he always manages to get within 3 ft of the rim and make it an "easy" shot. Kid plays big, and will be a great #4 in the NBA.

I hope I am not jinxing him for tonight vs Kansas.

[Slam]

2 early fouls to Beasley. Ouch!!

Man he has HUGE hands!!

[ohara831]

Bill Walker is the one who has self control issues - a real hot head. Beasley has matured a lot this yr from his HS days. He'll overcome the slow start and still have a good game - watch and see.

[Slam]

I agree ohara831. The last K-State game I watched Walker went something like 0-12 and fouled out and was steamed the whole game and couldn't keep focus for more than 2 secs.

Beasley has matured in the last 2 months already. He's not nearly the prick on court that he was at the start of the season.

See his last basket? They TRIPPLE team him on the block and he STILL scores with ease!!

[ohara831]

The other night when they played Texas and came up just short, they had a guy on the sidelines hold his hand up to Beasley's. It looked almost 2x as big. You're right about the size of his hand, which allows him to manuever the ball easily with one hand, and especially helps him rebounding. He really is fun to watch.

[Slam]

His feet too. Check out the kids wheels. They are huge!!

He palms the ball like it's a marble.

I'm getting WAY too excited about him!! No way would we ever be lucky enough to jag the overall #1 and land him.

He has that "swagger" we could really use too. I think you mentioned on the page before, his ability to get close to the rim and score is awesome. The sift touch, the finger rolls, the length. Pure scorer who's game will 100% transfer to the pro's.

[Slam]

17 to go in the 2nd and this is where his maturity comes into question.

He's playing like he doesn't care now and like he's content to give up.

[ohara831]

39 pts and 11 rebs. This on a night when he got no help from Bill Walker and they were playing one of the best teams in the game. And there is no question of Arthur vs Beasley. 39 pts to just 10. The man is so far above everyone else.

Several of the talking heads on TV are saying Tyler H will get the Player of the Year, but Beasley is by far a more dynamic player. Now, how can they say that, as it does not make sense to me. Tyler is a good college player, but also on a much better team. And if you admit Beasley is the better player, how does he not get your vote for POY? Well, it really doesn't make a hill of beans. When it comes to the Draft and the NBA, I think Beasley goes quite a bit ahead of Tyler, no matter who got the POY trophy.

[Slam]

I agree ohara. KState is a God awful team. Stick Beasley on a team like Texas who has a real PG like DJ and a shooter like AJ and he would be unstoppable because teams couldn't tripple team him.

Imagine all the looks he would get Swish, Felts, Crash and EO50 on our roster!!!

[ohara831]

I have to say, unless we just get lucky with the ping pong balls, I dont see us with the worst record. I think at worse, we will likely have anywhere from the 4th worse to the 6th worse. I think NY and Seattle will pass us, but not sure about Minn, Memphis or Miami. Miami could get on a run with Wade and The Matrix tho.

[TheBeagle]

I have to say, unless we just get lucky with the ping pong balls, I dont see us with the worst record. I think at worse, we will likely have anywhere from the 4th worse to the 6th worse. I think NY and Seattle will pass us, but not sure about Minn, Memphis or Miami. Miami could get on a run with Wade and The Matrix tho.
Too true. There are 3 classifications of teams out there: 1. The Haves 2. The Have Nots 3. The Mediocre

The haves are feasting on the have nots and mediocre. The mediocre is generally feasting on the havenots. The teams behind us are just so putrid, I don't think they'll ever catch up with us, especially the teams in the west who will be going up agaisnt the much tougher teams night in and night out. Minnesota is really really improving, but because they are out west, they won't be able to catch up with us, even if they sweep us. Memphis and Seattle likewise are just so bad I think being 4 games up on them is just too much. Miami actually has some potential, but realistically, I don't think they can make up 7 games on us. Plus, there's still the woeful Knicks and Clippers to contend with who don't look like they want to take the leap above us.

Basically, with any luck we finisih with the 5th worst record, and even greater luck we don't get screwed and end up with a pick below 5, and possibly even move up. There was an article I think John Delong wrote for the WS Journal back in '06 before the draft lottery saying how big it would be for the franchise to get the number 1 pick, both for the player that comes with it, but also the publicity and fanfare that having the number 1 pick has. If ever there was a year we needed it, that would be this year....

[Dead_Real]

You never know man I sure as hell didn't think Portland would be the #1 around that time everyone was banking on Boston getting that spot anything can happen.

[ohara831]

Amen! Maybe we pull al Portland!

As for the Clippers, they have alrady passed us. The Knicks lost last night and are only 1.5 behind us, and Seattle is like 4 behind us. We very likely move up to the #4 pick, and if Miami gets going, the #3. Who knows. But, we can dream of Beasley, and even Rose would be nice.

[spectre]

The worst team almost never gets the best pick. Wasn't the last one ORL and Dwight?

I wonder what the average spot the winning team usually has? 5th thru 7th might not be that bad a place to be in.

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I watched the game last night, and Beasley is definitely loaded with talent, but he looks about 6'8" tops which would make him more of a SF or an undersized PF.
Is it just me that thinks he looks a little small on TV???

[Muttley]

I watched the game last night, and Beasley is definitely loaded with talent, but he looks about 6'8" tops which would make him more of a SF or an undersized PF.
Is it just me that thinks he looks a little small on TV???


He definitely seems smaller than I had thought he would be. Plays large, though.

[Slam]

He offically been measured at 6'9" with shoes - but he's only 18 to it's fair to think that he still might have an inch or two of growing to do.

You only have to take a look at his hands and feet to see that he's large.

Plus, he has the same standing reach as Bosh and a 7+ foot span.

Elton Brand plays the 4 and he's no bigger than 6'8". Same with Josh Smith. Heck, we play Crash at the 4 and he's 2 inches shorter and 20lbs lighter than Beasley!!

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Very true Slam, and I'm probably over analyzing the possible issue with his height, but I would feel a lot better about using a #1 overall pick on him (if we're lucky enough to get it) if he measures out at a legit 6'9" or 6'10".
I know that they are very different types of players, but I think back to Sean May at 6'8" trying to guard the 6'11" athletic power forwards and it wasn't too pretty.

[Muttley]

Slam, good call on him having room to grow. He probably has more height in him. Especially if his hands, feet and wingspan "outsize" his height.

[dvdbumpus]

I watched the game last night, and Beasley is definitely loaded with talent, but he looks about 6'8" tops which would make him more of a SF or an undersized PF.
Is it just me that thinks he looks a little small on TV???


Just remember, Antawn Jamison has the EXACT same build. Both are 6'9 and 235. Elton Brand, on the other hand is 6'8 and 254. Is Beasley plays large, he'll be a stud.

[TheBeagle]

The worst team almost never gets the best pick. Wasn't the last one ORL and Dwight?

I wonder what the average spot the winning team usually has? 5th thru 7th might not be that bad a place to be in.
Yeah. Being worst definitely gives you no guarantees. I think to have a fairly realistic shot you need to be in the range from 1-4. If I had the motivation, I'd look at what records teams had that would up with the 1st pick, and see the average. Here are the odds though for the 6 worst teams at winding up with the 1st pick:

1. 25%
2. 20
3. 16
4. 12
5. 9
6. 5

Here's a pretty good explanation of it, for anybody interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Draft_Lottery

[Slam]

Comparison: Bosh (variety of scoring) meets Zach Randolph (offense)

Best fit: Bobcats ( :biggrin:), Heat, Grizzles

[ohara831]

Just had to bring his Thread back up to here. Hey, I love Rose, don't get me wrong, but Beasley is still going to be a magnificient Pro and I would love him as our PF. Cant let his Thread languish back behind some of the lesser guys.

[Slam]

Nice looking out ohara!!

I agree with your point though. It's amazing how much some people get caught up in the tourney and base everything on that.

K-State gets knocked out round 2, so all of a sudden Beasley, who DOMINATED all season, becomes an after thought and Rose becomes the poster boy of the 2008 draft.

Beasley would be a stud, and if the Bobcats landed the #1 overall pick, he is still the guy that I would draft for us, regardless of Rose's past two weeks.

[MattD]

And Beasley is probably the most ready to contribute a lot to a team. It would be nice, though my whole roster thing Ive been thinking out might be hurt a little bit.

If I had the number 1 I think the decision would come down to the workouts and the personal meetings with the player to see his mental state as well (you know how hard he wants to win etc etc)

[ohara831]

No doubt. I like Rose, but if we have a choice, I take Beasley. We need a PF in the worst way, and Ray is a solid PG so that is not a must position for change. Beasley will be a great PF. But if Beasley is gone, I jump on Rose in a second and then see what happens.