Hypothetical question: Bobcats land #3 pick w/Rose and Beasley off the board

[Dead_Real]

What player are YOU taking if you are the Bobcats in this position?

There are a ton of great players with a lot of upside coming out that experts don't see going 1 or 2 but should be in the lottery. Eric Gordon, Bayless, DeAndre Jordan, Mayo, Hibbert & Lopez all come to my mind. Last nights game made it clear to me that we are in more dying need of a big man right now than a point.

I like Brock Lopez out of Stanford he's probably the most NBA ready legit center coming out this year but if we are going to be in fact playing a run and gun style he might not fit well with us he's another Roy Hibbert type. I say we go with potential and take DeAndre Jordan he possesses the ability to run the floor for a big (something we don't have now), is a banger who will only get better when he starts to devolop ala D12 and has superstar potential that's my pick.

http://www.mynbadraft.com/NBA-Draft-Profiles-2008/DeAndre-Jordan

Thoughts?

[Slam]

Trade the pick to the Sonics for their two 1st round picks and double dip with a small and a big taken in the order of who is on the board when those two picks roll around aiming for a combination of either DJ, Bayless, Mayo, Collsion, Lawson etc and Hardin, Randolph, Ibaka, Anderson or Lopez, Jordan, Thabeet, Hibbert etc.

[Dead_Real]

^That sounds great Slam.

I saw you mentioned Serge Ibaka out of Congo I don't know to much about him but kid sounds like a straight up beast if he turns out like the experts are saying (Prime Shawn Kemp) he'd be a good value pick up if we did move down.

[ohara831]

I dont know if Seattle would trade the #4 and #25 just to move up to #3. I do like that scenario if they would.

I like the potential of Jordan, and his ceiling is high. But I think Brook Lopez is more of a sure bet at this moment, but with a lower ceiling. That is a tough call between big men. If we go PG, then likely go with Bayless at #3. But then you really have to ask if you can pass on Gordon, even though he is a SG with a little potential to play the PG position. He is not as good a PG as Ray, but a much much better scorer.

All in all, if we ended up with the #3, and only 1 or 2 slots ahead of Seattle, then I might very well trade with them and snag that 25th pick also. If Seattle has a 2nd rounder, I'd love to get that one also, but that may be asking too much if they are only 1 or 2 picks behind us.

[Chef]

As a mid 1st round, just out of lotto, I like Thompson from Rider.

[ziggy]

A lot of people may disagree with me, but if those 2 are off the board, then I take a long hard look at Roy Hibbert. Hes got the size, fantastic passing skills for a big man and the Georgetown pedigree.

[ohara831]

I just dont think he has improved much from last yr to this yr. disappointing.

[Slam]

I think he's fantastic Zig and he would no doubt lift our teams collective basketball IQ up considerably.

[timang]

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this serge ibaka is interesting... though i'd pick hibbert if ever the draft happens right now. we need more BIGS ^-^

[dvdbumpus]

A lot of people may disagree with me, but if those 2 are off the board, then I take a long hard look at Roy Hibbert. Hes got the size, fantastic passing skills for a big man and the Georgetown pedigree.



I'd think this last year, but this year I'd much rather go after Thabeet. Hibbert is slow and hasn't shown marked improvement, but Thabeet has taken huge strides.

He is a much better runner, shot blocker, and has improved in every statistical category this year.

[ammofan]

I want deAndre Jordan or Mayo

[timang]

stephen curry! :D



kidding folks... it's just the cinderella thing on NCAA that made me post that. any other suggestions?

that C from stanford looks really interesting, and kevin love is one helluva bball player. i still can't choose though. :-\

[ammofan]

yeah....Brook Lopez is really good

[Slam]

Brook Lopez does look good.....................but he also looks predictable, has no counter moves and is a bit of a black hole on offense.

If we are 1,000,000% sure that Mayo could play the point full time, why not try our luck at finding the super star that we are missing?

[spectre]

Brook Lopez does look good.....................but he also looks predictable, has no counter moves and is a bit of a black hole on offense.

If we are 1,000,000% sure that Mayo could play the point full time, why not try our luck at finding the super star that we are missing?


I wish he could play PG full time but I have serious doubts. From what I've read he's just passable playing the point in college. The pace in the NBA does a lot of pure PGs in so I wouldn't bank on Mayo playing PG except for in spot minutes.

I have no problem dealing with 3 great wings however; I'd definitely go for the potential superstar at 3rd.

[spectre]

Bill Simmon's Blog - ESPN (http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/blog/index?name=simmons&entryDate=20080324)

So what do we make of Mayo as a prospect? Drop the LeBron comparison and think of him more like Andre Iguodala, only if Iguodala was a first-class passer ... and if he isn't one of the top-five picks in June, I will be flabbergasted. He's too good. More importantly, thanks to Mayo's growth at USC over the past two months, Vince Carter remains safe as my least-favorite player of this generation.

[dnbman]

Bill Simmon's Blog - ESPN (http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/blog/index?name=simmons&entryDate=20080324)

So what do we make of Mayo as a prospect? Drop the LeBron comparison and think of him more like Andre Iguodala, only if Iguodala was a first-class passer ... and if he isn't one of the top-five picks in June, I will be flabbergasted. He's too good. More importantly, thanks to Mayo's growth at USC over the past two months, Vince Carter remains safe as my least-favorite player of this generation.




We should make it a policy to put quotes in quote boxes. I've read several posts in the last few days that I thought were poster's comments on a link only to discover they were actually quotes from the passage.

In any case, Spectre, I find your posts more insightful than the Sports Guy. You do yourself a disservice.

Actually, I appreciated reading his comments about the college folks. I'm just really scared of Mayo. Obviously, he's going to be good. No question. And maybe being overlooked all season knocked down his hubris a bit.

Felton, Mayo, Richardson, and Wallace would be some seriously entertaining basketball for sure. But would we win a title with that many wing players? Could they coexist?

[spectre]

Sorry DNB...it was early!

If we selected Mayo and he panned out then we'd obviously have to make a move to balance the roster, but between the 2 positions that still equals 32 mpg each...and I'd also slot at least 5 of Mayo's to the PG position.

Hammer would obviously suffer, but his contract will already be borderline worth it and he can be moved this summer. After we get into the season if everything is working like we hope then the 3rd wing...which would be a valuable piece...could then be moved for a core player.

Really, this is how the draft is supposed to play out; draft BPA and move pieces to get the needs. We have a lot of excess and it's past time to consolidate.

[Slam]

Brook Lopez does look good.....................but he also looks predictable, has no counter moves and is a bit of a black hole on offense.

If we are 1,000,000% sure that Mayo could play the point full time, why not try our luck at finding the super star that we are missing?


I wish he could play PG full time but I have serious doubts. From what I've read he's just passable playing the point in college. The pace in the NBA does a lot of pure PGs in so I wouldn't bank on Mayo playing PG except for in spot minutes.

I have no problem dealing with 3 great wings however; I'd definitely go for the potential superstar at 3rd.


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My only concern then is that we'd have Mayo, Swish, Crash, Hammer, Ammo, Dude all to play just 2 positions.

Unless we can move 2 or three of the guys via trade and turn them into something nice, we'd end up like the Hawks V.2

[spectre]

Hopefully our organization won't continue to run with 5 wing guys for 4 seasons like the Hawks have. Like I said above taking BPA isn't the end...you have to utilize trades to balance the roster.

Tell the truth...that Iggy comparison got you excited just a little didn't it?

[Slam]

You know how much I want a SG who can handle the rock and create for others and himself.

If Mayo can do that at the NBA level the way guys like Iggy, JJ and Roy can, then I would be all over him.

That would have to mean the end of Crash in Charlotte IMO though. I don't want to pay a guy $10 mil a year to play off the pine.

[spectre]

You know how much I want a SG who can handle the rock and create for others and himself.

If Mayo can do that at the NBA level the way guys like Iggy, JJ and Roy can, then I would be all over him.

That would have to mean the end of Crash in Charlotte IMO though. I don't want to pay a guy $10 mil a year to play off the pine.


Coincidentally Crash has the most trade value of anyone IMO...so it ain't all bad. I'd miss him terribly, but replacing a 10 million dollar player with a rookie contract and actually gain some pluses is what we have to do in order to move forward. There will be teams all over him and willing to pay retail.

Imagine actually winning a trade where it doesn't cost us capspace.

[dnbman]

You know how much I want a SG who can handle the rock and create for others and himself.

If Mayo can do that at the NBA level the way guys like Iggy, JJ and Roy can, then I would be all over him.

That would have to mean the end of Crash in Charlotte IMO though. I don't want to pay a guy $10 mil a year to play off the pine.


Coincidentally Crash has the most trade value of anyone IMO...so it ain't all bad. I'd miss him terribly, but replacing a 10 million dollar player with a rookie contract and actually gain some pluses is what we have to do in order to move forward. There will be teams all over him and willing to pay retail.

Imagine actually winning a trade where it doesn't cost us capspace.


IF Mayo did pan out, Wallace's contract would be about perfect to get a legit big too. I hate the thought of trading him Wallace though.

[Slam]

IF Mayo did pan out, Wallace's contract would be about perfect to get a legit big too. I hate the thought of trading him Wallace though.

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Very much feel the same way. Would HATE to see Crash go, but I've changed my mind set a lot during this season.

Before I was rooting more for the players, now I'm rooting more for the team.

If making the team better means parting ways with Crash or EO50 or Swish or Felts or anyone, I would be ok with that.

So long as the team is better off - and I don't mean just financially, I mean as a playing group.

[ohara831]

I agree. I'd trade anyone IF it was in the betterment of our team. And frankly, we're much closer to the worst than the first, so we have a lot of ways in which to get better.