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dnbman
04-09-2008, 10:06 PM
Don't know much about the kid other than he blocks a lot of shots for a wing player.
NBADraft.net has him as the pick for our spot. He's got good size, but maybe a taller natural SF.
Can the kid play PF? Would he be a good fit?
I've never seen him play so I can't comment, but I've read a lot about him and read all the Chris Bosh comparisons so it's hard not to take notice.
Sounds very raw and very thin though. Very Davidson like in fact.
In saying that, if Griffin is off the board when we pick, he might be worth a look?
Has anyone actually seen him play a game or two?
dnbman
04-09-2008, 10:37 PM
I've never seen him play so I can't comment, but I've read a lot about him and read all the Chris Bosh comparisons so it's hard not to take notice.
Sounds very raw and very thin though. Very Davidson like in fact.
In saying that, if Griffin is off the board when we pick, he might be worth a look?
Has anyone actually seen him play a game or two?
Griffin appears to be off the board period.
He appears to be much more polished than Davidson, but with the same smaller frame. I like that despite his frame, he was a good rebounder and shot blocker. I'm wondering if he might be a cross between Prince and Camby, which would be quite nice for us. The fact that he has some midrange is nice too.
I know you're high on a couple of the bigs like Hibbert, but I'm scared to death of all of them with our first pick. I'd almost rather take the chance on Randolph.
BTW... ESPN has him going before the 8th pick, which is interesting.
Didn't Davidson average something like 2.5 blocks a game at Bama? The same as Randolph at LSU? I think they were both at about 8 boards a game and 15ppg too.
The big differnece between them at school is that Randolph averaged a whole lot more when it came to turn overs!!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not totally against the idea of drafting Randolph, it's just that we already have project bigs in Davidson and Hollins. I'm not that keen on taking up 3 roster spots on project bigs.
Know what I mean?
ohara831
04-10-2008, 04:03 PM
Given that we are picking either #8 or #9, with Griffin out, we are looking at Randolph, Love or DeAndre Jordan if we want big; otherwise I believe we will go Westbrook. He would be be the combo guard to spell both Ray and J-Rich. He would be the one we get IF Mayo is already gone (and he will be) Mayo would fill that Combo Guard Role perfectly. That is if the ping pong balls fall as planned.
I may revise this later, but that is my off the cuff view.
dnbman
04-10-2008, 06:35 PM
Didn't Davidson average something like 2.5 blocks a game at Bama? The same as Randolph at LSU? I think they were both at about 8 boards a game and 15ppg too.
The big differnece between them at school is that Randolph averaged a whole lot more when it came to turn overs!!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not totally against the idea of drafting Randolph, it's just that we already have project bigs in Davidson and Hollins. I'm not that keen on taking up 3 roster spots on project bigs.
Know what I mean?
I'm with you. I just keep reading good things. He sounds like a more Dirk like Davidson. I definitely don't want another project big or tweener; I want a legit big. So, maybe we should just draft a guard and go for a big in the FA pool.
Or get Davidson on 'roids so he truly does become Super Jermareo.
dnbman
04-10-2008, 09:43 PM
Now RealGM has us picking him too.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/51896/20080410/2008_nba_mock_draft_version_60/
Considering he's the only real PF prospect in the lottery (outside of Beasley), he may be a future Bobcat. :g:
Dead_Real
04-17-2008, 10:22 AM
I can't seem to find any video on this kid but I would jump at the chance to draft him if we land at the 8th or 9th spot high risk because of his size right now but he can score and create his own shot plus he's only 18 has a lot of time to start to develope his body.
dnbman
04-17-2008, 09:44 PM
I can't seem to find any video on this kid but I would jump at the chance to draft him if we land at the 8th or 9th spot high risk because of his size right now but he can score and create his own shot plus he's only 18 has a lot of time to start to develope his body.
Aside from the fact that he could be a complete bust, my main concern is that he can't lock down the 4 spot, making us have to get both a legit big and a backup pg in the FA pool. However, there aren't many legit 4s in the draft, so we're likely to have to find both in the FA pool unless we opt for one of the pgs.
blah, blah... I think the bottom line is that this draft does not have what we need in it. I'm just not very positive about it, unless we win one of the first two picks.
If this kid really is 6'10" is moves amazingly well!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8KRal8WSTU
He really does look painfully thin though - especially in that last image of him running towards the left. His arms look like tooth picks - which worries me.
But man, is he ever fast!!
ziggy
05-24-2008, 08:58 PM
If this kid really is 6'10" is moves amazingly well!!
He had an exceptional handle too. We've never had a big man who could put the ball on the floor like that.
I had a dream the other night that we drafted Randolph and he turned out like Garnett.
Could you freaking imagine!!
TheLegend
05-31-2008, 10:58 PM
I had a dream the other night that we drafted Randolph and he turned out like Garnett.
Could you freaking imagine!!
I would love if he weight train though, he's so thin for a PF.
ohara831
05-31-2008, 10:58 PM
That would be great! He is described as similar to Lamar Odom and Tayshaun Prince, but KG would be even better. I'm afraid he is going up the charts. nbadraft.net has him in the top 5 now. But, the higher he goes, the better that someone else drops to us. We will get someone good from this draft - I feel it! (Although I also felt we were getting a top 3 from the Lottery Draft. So sad.)
Muttley
05-31-2008, 11:39 PM
We will get someone good from this draft - I feel it! (Although I also felt we were getting a top 3 from the Lottery Draft. So sad.)
Luckily - or depending on who you ask, unluckily - we control our own destiny with who we pick. I agree. I think we'll turn out something good from this draft, whether it comes to fruition next season or many seasons down the road, perhaps in the form of a kid like Jordan or Randolph.
Dead_Real
06-02-2008, 10:53 AM
Nice Q&A with Randolph
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Interviews-Kevin-Love,-D.J.-Augustin,-Anthony-Randolph-2908/
DraftExpress: Do you ultimately see yourself as a small forward or a power forward?
Anthony Randolph: It depends on what team I go to. If I’m needed at either one of those positions, I just want to be prepared for either one.
DraftExpress: What are you really looking to show in private workouts?
Anthony Randolph: I’m looking to show my versatility, I want to show that I can do multiple things.
DraftExpress: What role do you see yourself playing in five years?
Anthony Randolph: I hope to be perennial all-star in five years; that’s my goal. Whatever team I’m on I want to win games and be a contender.
DraftExpress: What player would you compare yourself to?
Anthony Randolph: I don’t know, I really haven’t been any thought into that. Most likely though, Tayshaun Prince and Chris Bosh.
DraftExpress: Based on what you’ve been hearing from teams, what would you say is your draft range right now?
Anthony Randolph: I’m hearing anywhere from four to ten.
DraftExpress: What do you think sets you apart from the other power forwards and possible small forwards in the draft?
Anthony Randolph: I think that I’m capable of playing different positions; you can put me in different situations. So I think that sets me apart.
DraftExpress: Tell me about your time at LSU. How did things go in your one season there?
Anthony Randolph: I thought it went great. I loved the coaching staff, the fans, everything down there. It was a great learning experience for me; I matured a lot in my time there.
DraftExpress: How big of a factor was John Brady being fired in your decision to enter the draft?
Anthony Randolph: I mean it was a factor, but at the same time Butch Pierre was the one who recruited me and I had a good relationship with him. So it wasn’t that big of a deal.
DraftExpress: Were you happy with your development at LSU?
Anthony Randolph: Yes, I was very happy. I learned how to play more physically; I got stronger and became smarter as a basketball player.
DraftExpress: If you had to pinpoint one thing only, what would you say is the most important thing you learned at LSU?
Anthony Randolph: I would just say the experience; getting to play against the players I played against in the SEC; it’s a tough conference. I learned how to be on my own and still put in that hard work.
DraftExpress: I went to see some of your games in Dallas where you were only playing in front of maybe thirty or forty people. What has that transition been like going from playing in front of small crowds to playing in front of ten thousand people? Was that a rough transition?
Anthony Randolph: I love it, I love playing in front of crowds like that. That’s what you play for; you play to entertain and because you love the game. It wasn’t that big of a transition, I looked forward to it.
DraftExpress: Did you use that as motivation? You weren’t very well respected by the Dallas media.
Anthony Randolph: It didn’t really bother me because I’m a low key guy. I didn’t really pay attention to the media, I just wanted to play basketball and win games.
DraftExpress: Thank you Anthony.
Anthony Randolph: Thank you.
I'm praying he falls to us on draft night and Brook Lopez doesn't :biggrin:
Dead_Real
06-05-2008, 12:08 PM
Longer mix for Randolph.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-CRtna5iDFc
dav7z
06-05-2008, 12:51 PM
I think this kid might be our pick if he falls to nine. I think he has more up side than any body we Could get picking at nine. Right now i like him better than Love who you know what you geting. Jordan who i think is a bust. Lopez who runs like a turkey and in no way can guard the wing [ POB ] a better choice.
Gordon and Westbrook both play different positions. Considerations if we go small?
Just a little more gifted than Brandon Wright but a good comparison.
ziggy
06-05-2008, 06:11 PM
Once he gets some meat on his bones, he is going to be fierce.
I was happy to draft B.Wright at #8 last year and I think that not only is Randolph better than B.Wright today, but I think he will have a much better career so I would be ok with drafting Randolph at #9 this year.
And I think he might end up being something special.
Keetch
06-06-2008, 06:42 AM
I've read a lot of posts dissing this draft, but I really don't agree. I agree that these guys can have a large impact on the team and right away if LB wants them to.
Yeah I'm there with Randolph now. He blows Davidson away. It would really suck if both Love and Randolph are picked before #9 and Lopez drops. Lopez is a Center though and somebody has got to want that (?), just not us. I hope so. I guess thats where a Gordon or Westbrook come in; or a trade.
dnbman
06-06-2008, 08:03 AM
I've read a lot of posts dissing this draft, but I really don't agree. I agree that these guys can have a large impact on the team and right away if LB wants them to.
Yeah I'm there with Randolph now. He blows Davidson away. It would really suck if both Love and Randolph are picked before #9 and Lopez drops. Lopez is a Center though and somebody has got to want that (?), just not us. I hope so. I guess thats where a Gordon or Westbrook come in; or a trade.
If that's the way things pan out, would you like to trade down a bit and go for Darrel Arthur? After he flirted with top 10 mocks, he seems to be falling back down to the mid teens.
I can't say the draft is good or bad. I just don't remember there being a draft where everyone after the first two players had such big question marks. (I guess the '06 draft was similar.) There's only a few guys that even have a definite position on the floor. I want the best players we can get, but I'm really getting tired of guys who are just a little too slow for one position, a little too small for another position, or not healthy enough to play any position.
Regardless, I can't wait for the draft. Unfortunately for our draft plans, I'll be at the beach during the draft.
Dead_Real
06-11-2008, 01:35 PM
Some workout highlights of Randolph hopefully our staff will bring him in anyday now he's going up against the Lopez twins too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8HrnRk8jpY
MattD
06-11-2008, 02:13 PM
I have now become an anthony Randolph fan. Bust potential is high, his toughness is questionable to say the least, but being able to move well at that height will be an asset no matter where he plays. And we need a mobile PF. Perfect.
Mustachio
06-11-2008, 04:43 PM
BigSlam your right...good God is he fast. theres one play on that mix where the ball is stolen and he is down the court in a flash.
Speed Kills. 6' 10.25" Speed really kills.
he seems like a flashier Davidson. more athletic, faster, meaner and longer. a nice 7'3" wingspan that would definetly help in our rebounding problems. longer wingspans mean at the very least tap outs to guards.
I dont have a problem with a bunch of project bigs. I do have a problem with them never shedding the "project" label like Hollins has yet to do. But if we were lucky enough to have some of these projects work out... id be more than happy to keep drafting projects.
I have high hopes for Davidson this year. maybe he has beefed up in the offseason and worked on his games. maybe thats the reason we arent looking at bigs in our workouts right now. doubtful..but who would know since our media refuses to report on anything.
I dont know much about this kid, just the little I have recently researched... but one thing i do know is... We have all been clamoring for an athletic PF, with some offensive game, and the ability to guard the more athletic PF's in the league right now.
Well boys... I think Anthony Randolph fits the bill. He may be a year off, but he looks to me like exactly what we've been waiting for. lets all pray he falls into our laps.
swetooth9
06-11-2008, 04:50 PM
He looks great in the video...but one thing i really wanted to see in the workout vid was him guarding the Lopez brothers...I wanna see if he can defend the post...I think he will be pretty good offensively, but I'm not sure if he can bang with the bigger players...his wingspan can help alter shots, but i'm not sure if how effective he will be guarding the post without fouling
I liked what I saw though...pretty good handles for a 6'10" guy...reminds me of Lamar Odom without the passing ability (well...at least I can't tell if he's a good passer in the vid)
TheLegend
06-11-2008, 05:38 PM
This guy could become like KG if works out more.
ziggy
06-11-2008, 07:44 PM
He reminds me of Chris Bosh in an even skinnier Tayshaun Prince's body.
Hes definitely a year away because of his body, but his upside is off the charts.
ohara831
06-11-2008, 07:59 PM
But will Charlotte take a PF at #9 who is a year away? We really need help now. I think they would go with Love over Randolph just because of that reason.
ziggy
06-11-2008, 08:04 PM
But will Charlotte take a PF at #9 who is a year away? We really need help now. I think they would go with Love over Randolph just because of that reason.
They probably would take Love at #9 if hes on the board, but I think he'll be long gone..
For comedic purposes I'm hoping that he winds up with the Memphis Grizzlies so that they will have the "Gay-Love" forward combination.
TheLegend
06-12-2008, 01:12 PM
They look like the same size when KG was a rookie.
They look like the same size when KG was a rookie.
I agree.
KG:
http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/kgandmelvin.jpg_20080429_13_27_09_45-333-234.imageContent
http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/throwdown.jpg_20080429_13_39_04_50-333-234.imageContent
http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/kgdunk.jpg_20080429_13_36_45_48-333-234.imageContent
AR:
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/78729376.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193A1D0B67C5DCBA3CF9FE6A22BFA806448 284831B75F48EF45
http://www.nba.com/media/timberwolves/prospect_2008_randolph_01_292.jpg
I'll bet that a season in an NBA weight room on an NBA lifting program will jack him up like KG is now.
MattD
06-13-2008, 08:18 PM
even still kg isnt that jacked, he just knows how to be effective with his size and has an incredible fire. Along with that fact that he has a very nice touch and great body control.
Yeah I could see Randolph becoming that, but I dont know how interested we are, were not even working him out
Mustachio
06-14-2008, 01:37 PM
even still kg isnt that jacked, he just knows how to be effective with his size and has an incredible fire. Along with that fact that he has a very nice touch and great body control.
dont forget his amazing ability to disappear in playoff games. where is that KG fire right now is what I wanna know. hopefully A-Randy (im still working on that haha) wont do that if we draft him.
MattD
06-14-2008, 03:10 PM
that kg fire led them to win game 4
amour217
06-14-2008, 07:01 PM
If we draft him, he better eat a sammich or two (or hang out with Sean May), or he'll get shoved around a ton down low...then he'll fall in love with the jumper
ohara831
06-14-2008, 11:48 PM
If we draft him, he better eat a sammich or two (or hang out with Sean May), or he'll get shoved around a ton down low...then he'll fall in love with the jumper
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That's the answer! We'll liposuction May, and then inject it into Randolph. Maybe about 20 pounds worth. That should help May, and if his knee is healthy, then he'd be a great backup for a solid and sturdy Randolph.
TheLegend
06-18-2008, 03:02 PM
http://www.fayobserver.com/article_ap?id=124576
Yet there was Larry Brown Wednesday morning, working out two young, talented _ and extremely inexperienced _ big men who could someday become stars: Anthony Randolph of LSU and Darrell Arthur of Kansas.
dnbman
06-18-2008, 03:10 PM
http://www.fayobserver.com/article_ap?id=124576
Yet there was Larry Brown Wednesday morning, working out two young, talented _ and extremely inexperienced _ big men who could someday become stars: Anthony Randolph of LSU and Darrell Arthur of Kansas.
Nice find!
Dead_Real
06-18-2008, 03:16 PM
^What he said :biggrin:
Finally I was getting worried once again Brown brings up wanting atheltic frontcourt guys I have a feeling DeAndre Jordan or Randolph will be the pick I'm obviously hoping for the latter. With this news I'm wondering who were the guys that turned down workouts with us Brook Lopez, DJ Augustine, Westbrook.
With any luck DJ and Westbrook will come in Thursday.
ALong13
06-18-2008, 03:17 PM
I've been a huge fan of Randolph and Love the whole time, and if either one of them are there I'd snatch them up quickly...
Mustachio
06-18-2008, 04:17 PM
GREAT FIND. why does the FayOb get more leads and breaking stories than the Charlotte paper.
anyway. I like that Randolph thinks it would be a great connection with Okafor. I know it's something he probably just spit out to appease the reporter but it sure beats him saying he doesnt wanna play in a small market on a young team ya know.
I am absolutely on this kids band wagon. 6 10 is perfect height, and adding weight is as simple as being drafted. the kid is 19 years old hes not gonna be huge. one year of professional trainers sculpting and he will add weight. Im not even worried about his weight... its the last thing on my mind. If we think this kid can ball and the only thing holding us back is that hes 200 lbs.... DRAFT HIM.
TheLegend
06-18-2008, 05:02 PM
I hope we can find a way to get him. It could change our franchise around.
http://www.nba.com/bobcats/2008_draft_workouts_day6.html
The reports are in!
Muttley
06-18-2008, 10:18 PM
6'10" and 205lbs sounds light, but if he's as skilled as he's said to be, then muscles can be created. At that height, though, he could be just what we need.
It's a great sign that he actually came in for a workout.
spectre
06-18-2008, 10:22 PM
For you guys who've actually seen this guy in action...better, worse or = to the potential of BWright?
ohara831
06-18-2008, 11:04 PM
Honestly, as far as "potential", I would probably say = to Wright. But if he has a edge, it would be his ability to rebound and make headway on a fast break to get the ball out to the right man. Seems to be made for a fast pace game as opposed to a half court game. This is from seeing him 2x, and watching several clips and reading several reviews of his game.
amour217
06-19-2008, 07:32 AM
...Randolph could be in for quite a tumble, as he would likely continue to slip past Portland at #13, Golden State at #14, Phoenix at #15, until reaching Philadelphia at #16. That’s about 10 spots lower than some mocks have him projected right now, but isn’t out of the question depending on how things play out next week. Randolph is not helping himself reportedly with the way he’s working out, being very average so far according to numerous people who’ve watched him, looking “laid back” or even “out of shape.” Compounding the problem is that he may have recently hurt his shoulder.
Per DraftExpress http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/
Dead_Real
06-19-2008, 07:54 AM
I just can't see him falling like that if anybody does it will be the "better" Lopez twin.
For you guys who've actually seen this guy in action...better, worse or = to the potential of BWright?
I've never seen him during a game (outside of You Tube clips) but from what I have seen during workouts he is a LOT further ahead of Wright as far as skill set goes. Wright can't dribble and he has no range on his shot. Randolph can do both of those things at a pretty high level for his size already.
I think that Randolph will be a better pro.
Mustachio
06-19-2008, 09:11 AM
I've never seen him during a game (outside of You Tube clips) but from what I have seen during workouts he is a LOT further ahead of Wright as far as skill set goes. Wright can't dribble and he has no range on his shot. Randolph can do both of those things at a pretty high level for his size already.
I think that Randolph will be a better pro.
I definitely agree here. the only comparison is their skinny frame (Wright was skinnier i think). Wright was tall, athletic and played around some very talented players. But he was almost all upside, no chance of helping a team out immediately. Randolph needs some work, but you could plug him and get some rebounds and a some dirty work out of him at least i think.
I think his potential is much higher than Wright's. I would like to grab him despite his bad workouts. the kid is not even 19 yet.
ohara831
06-19-2008, 09:52 AM
I can certainly understand and appreciate the love for Randolph, but I think we are underestimating Wright. It may be b/c we traded him for J-Rich, and dont want to ever think that the deal may benefit GS as much as it did Charlotte. We always want to think that the deal benefited us more. But from the little I did see Wright play last year, when they played him, he looked good. Maybe I'm just trying to guard against losing a little of my own impartiality. I can see the argument for those who think Wright is not going to have the same upside as Randolph, but I see the argument that they are pretty equal as well.
I can certainly understand and appreciate the love for Randolph, but I think we are underestimating Wright. It may be b/c we traded him for J-Rich, and dont want to ever think that the deal may benefit GS as much as it did Charlotte. We always want to think that the deal benefited us more. But from the little I did see Wright play last year, when they played him, he looked good. Maybe I'm just trying to guard against losing a little of my own impartiality. I can see the argument for those who think Wright is not going to have the same upside as Randolph, but I see the argument that they are pretty equal as well.
As of today, they aren't even close to being equal - regardless of if we traded Wright away or not.
fatlever
06-19-2008, 12:37 PM
As of today, they aren't even close to being equal - regardless of if we traded Wright away or not.
who are you saying is better?
who are you saying is better?
Anthony Randolph
dnbman
06-19-2008, 09:53 PM
Anthony Randolph
Honestly, I didn't read the whole thread. So you may have already said it.
Is AR better than Wright because of his D, O, or both?
Honestly, I didn't read the whole thread. So you may have already said it.
Is AR better than Wright because of his D, O, or both?
I think that AR's D is on par with Wrights, but his offense/handles/understanding of the game seems light years ahead.
ohara831
06-19-2008, 10:45 PM
Me thinks you are enamored with Randolph. Me thinks you might like to see him in a Bobcat uniform?
Me knows you may be right!!
prufrock
06-20-2008, 02:45 PM
I liked Randolph based on what I've seen and heard so far and I think he could compliment Oak if his game develops. I think BW has more upside, but AR has more of a perimeter game.
But then I read this article by ESPN's Hollinger: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=DraftRater-080620&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba %2fdraft2008%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumni st%3dhollinger_john%26page%3dDraftRater-080620
He seems to think Randolph will clearly be a big bust and his stock is way too high. Just one stat-head's opinion, but that makes me wary of him.
Anyway, if Westbrook is there I think we do (and should) take him.
I liked Randolph based on what I've seen and heard so far and I think he could compliment Oak if his game develops. I think BW has more upside, but AR has more of a perimeter game.
But then I read this article by ESPN's Hollinger: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=DraftRater-080620&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba %2fdraft2008%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumni st%3dhollinger_john%26page%3dDraftRater-080620
He seems to think Randolph will clearly be a big bust and his stock is way too high. Just one stat-head's opinion, but that makes me wary of him.
Anyway, if Westbrook is there I think we do (and should) take him.
Welcome prufrock.
I see according to these stats that Bosh had a similar pre-draft ranking to Fazekas, McRoberts, POB, Simien,, Taft, Turiaf.
Not only that, but guys who were ranked better than Bosh were Gooden, Wilcox, Haslem, Borchardt, Cillison, Sweentey, Lee, Villanueva, SHELDON WILLIAMS (for Spectre).
Interesting.
Keetch
06-20-2008, 11:27 PM
The Wages of Wins guy on Draft Express has a similar very negative outlook for Randolph.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2008-Win-Scores-NBA-Draft-Preview-2932/
So now I don't know what to think :P other than I'm getting tired of obsessing over this and can't wait for Thursday to get it over with!
ohara831
06-20-2008, 11:35 PM
Slam, Prufrock and Keetch : I just posted two links on my News you can use Thread. One is the link you posted Prufrock. And Keetch, the other one is also from Draft Express. Mentions Randolph maybe being injured and not being in shape. Not the things you want to hear when thinking of taking someone #9.
Keetch
06-20-2008, 11:38 PM
At this point, if Westbrook is off the board; do we really have any idea at all who the Bobcats will draft? I don't. No idea at all. Weird.
ohara831
06-21-2008, 12:07 AM
At this point, if Westbrook is off the board; do we really have any idea at all who the Bobcats will draft? I don't. No idea at all. Weird.
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My guess is Lopez.
spectre
06-21-2008, 06:07 AM
Welcome prufrock.
I see according to these stats that Bosh had a similar pre-draft ranking to Fazekas, McRoberts, POB, Simien,, Taft, Turiaf.
Not only that, but guys who were ranked better than Bosh were Gooden, Wilcox, Haslem, Borchardt, Cillison, Sweentey, Lee, Villanueva, SHELDON WILLIAMS (for Spectre).
Interesting.
Yeah, you know I got a big chuckle out of that one!
Never been one to put a lot on stats, and it does appear Hollinger was hit or miss last year. I think if you're picking in the mid to late teens or even farther back it wouldn't hurt to give his lists some credibility (he did peg Stuckey and Duds), but at or near the top...eh.
I don't have a clue. Lopez dissed us, supposedly wouldn't work out for anyone past 4. LB did say we'd take a player regardless, but adding in that everyone says he has little upside (and that LB LOVES long athletic guys) it wouldn't shock me at all if we trade back and pick up a Hibbert or the French dude. I guess if I was forced to bet that'd be what I went with.
Muttley
06-21-2008, 10:56 AM
it wouldn't shock me at all if we trade back and pick up a Hibbert or the French dude.
If we draft him, that's gotta be his nickname.
dvdbumpus
06-21-2008, 12:25 PM
Mentions Randolph maybe being injured and not being in shape. Not the things you want t hear when thinking of taking someone #9.
It sounds vaguely familiar to a slightly larger player on our team now....I believe that would be Sean May?
fatlever
06-21-2008, 12:56 PM
I think that AR's D is on par with Wrights, but his offense/handles/understanding of the game seems light years ahead.
i'm not quite sure how you can claim randolph's offense and understanding of the game is "light years" ahead of wright. wright was amazingly efficient at unc averaging 15ppg in only 27mpg while shooting 64% from the field. wright actually has a go-to post move (a great baby hook) which is almost unblockable if he gets in close enough. and i seem to remember always hearing about how smart was. wright, like randolph, simply suffers from being too skinny, but unlike randolph, wright actually has an offensive game suited to play pf. once he gets stronger and puts on more weight, i think he'll be a fine player. being efficient, playing to your strengths and protecting the ball tells me wright was well coached and had a good understanding of the game while at unc.
according to hollinger, statistically, randolph was amazingly inefficient for a player his size and athleticism and a turnover machine.
i'm just sayin'.....
fatlever
06-21-2008, 12:59 PM
as you can see... i'm growing cooler on randolph with each passing day.
i'm not quite sure how you can claim randolph's offense and understanding of the game is "light years" ahead of wright. wright was amazingly efficient at unc averaging 15ppg in only 27mpg while shooting 64% from the field. wright actually has a go-to post move (a great baby hook) which is almost unblockable if he gets in close enough. and i seem to remember always hearing about how smart was. wright, like randolph, simply suffers from being too skinny, but unlike randolph, wright actually has an offensive game suited to play pf. once he gets stronger and puts on more weight, i think he'll be a fine player. being efficient, playing to your strengths and protecting the ball tells me wright was well coached and had a good understanding of the game while at unc.
i'm just sayin'.....
Just because Wright was amazingly efficient at unc averaging 15ppg in only 27mpg while shooting 64% from the field doesn't mean he was some offensive is anything special. That's like saying that Chandler is a better offensive player than Bosh. The reason Wright shot 64% is because he can't play any futher than 5 feet out from the basket. The fact that Randolph has a variety of ways to score, can create for himself, has range on his J and is equally athletic and has the same build as Wright puts him light years ahead.
according to hollinger, statistically, randolph was amazingly inefficient for a player his size and athleticism and a turnover machine......
And like I said above, according to Hollinger Bosh had a similar pre-draft ranking to Fazekas, McRoberts, POB, Simien, Taft and Turiaf.
Not only that, but guys who were ranked better than Bosh were Gooden, Wilcox, Haslem, Borchardt, Cillison, Sweentey, Lee, Villanueva and Sheldon freaking Williams!!
You can only take stats so far before tangibles kick in.
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