P/F or Center

[dav7z]

Even after playing for us this long . I still can't tell if Okafor is a P/F or a center .
Who or what kind of player do you put next to him ?
Is he large enough to play center ?
Can he guard P/F s speed in the open floor?
What kind of player do we put next to him if we keep him?

[Slam]

EO50 is a 5.

Ideally we will team him with a big who can stretch the D with mid range shooting, can play the high post and pick and pop, has high BBIQ, and is athletic enough to get up and down the floor as well as defend on ball.

Chris Bosh and LMA would be perfect.

[QCHeel]

He has to be a 5.

The difficulty is he is an undersized 5, who is not a great finisher on offensive. He is not as long as other big-time 5s in the league, and I believe he is among the league leaders in shots blocked. Makes it extremely hard to put someone next to him.

If the Bobcats continue to feature him as a big man, he has to finish at the rim alot better, and improve his free throw percentage. He needs an all-star talent next to him who can score in the low post and stretch the defense, as mentioned.

I still throw around the idea of him coming off the bench in an ideal world, with a much longer/finisher at C, and stud at PF.

[ohara831]

Just an interesting note. When playing the ESPN Lottery Machine today, with the 8th pick, we are slated for DeAndre Jordan. He is certainly a Center, so if the Cats did take him, we'd either have to play Okafor at PF or we'd be doing a S&T with Okafor for a PF quite possibly.

[dav7z]

EO50 is a 5.

Ideally we will team him with a big who can stretch the D with mid range shooting, can play the high post and pick and pop, has high BBIQ, and is athletic enough to get up and down the floor as well as defend on ball.

Chris Bosh and LMA would be perfect.
1st OCHeel welcome to Bobcats planet. Good post have fun and keep posting.
Slam i compleatly agree with your post. The player you discribing kinda sounds like a healthy Mc May all so . Hes great on a pick and roll . Can hit the jumper . Set a great screan and has a high BBIQ. Only problem hes only good for ten games a season?
Do any of you guys know of any players in the draft with all those quilitys?

[Keetch]

Anthony Randolph, Kevin Love, Darrell Arthur...none are perfect, but any one would be a nice upgrade. Randolph might be a clone of Davidson though, never seen him play so not sure of his game. He seems to be the same height and weight as SuperMario.

We just don't know at all what Sean May will be able to do next season; so my take is prepare on getting nothing (as they should have clearly done last year .. again .. plain stupid) and then enjoy the luxury of a healthy and helpful May when and if it ever actually happens.

If the Cats take DeAndre Jordan, it'll probably be a year or two until he makes an impact on the rotation, if ever. Clearly, the kid has a huge risk/reward going for him though. Interesting....but too risky for me. Potential is normally only achieved when the player has the motor to get there. So far, I haven't seen that in Jordan. You never know though.

I wonder if any rookie PF will play much next year, especially with Sam as coach. It could be Davidson emerges at that position for us. Probably a stretch, but I think he can do it.

[Mustachio]

Ive said it from day 1. Okafor is a center. and i dont think his height has anything to do with it.

his physical tool set isn't smooth, its very practiced and mechanical. which is fine by me, it just means he has been tutored and taught to play the 5. It is where he is best suited and can be at times a very very good player. he shouldnt even see a little bit of time at the 4. not in this NBA.


The perfect situation for me is to get an offensive yang for Meks defensive Ying.

Beasley (long shot but possible) would be about perfect i think. that would be two 6'10 guys who can get around and I personally think could cover for eachother well. In double team situations, Mek is more than capable of scoring and on defense i think any 6'10 athelete that is as atheletic as Beasley can hold his own down low.


DeAndre Jordan had me drooling early. But like Slam (i think) said, if he cant show up in college and perform... at least a little bit. then how much help can he be in the NBA. He would absolutely be worth the pick, just for his amazing upside. But we would have to acquire a PF somehow that could play that spot.

[dav7z]

This is a list of this years free agents . It looks to me like Brand , and Jamison head the class at power foward, I w ould love to see Okafor, Brand , Wallace Rich , Felton toghter. But i think we would have to move down two a 2nd teir FREE AGENT salery cap wize .
Does any one see any winners in the free agent class to along side Okafor?



http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=2008freeagents

[amour217]

This is a list of this years free agents . It looks to me like Brand , and Jamison head the class at power foward, I w ould love to see Okafor, Brand , Wallace Rich , Felton toghter. But i think we would have to move down two a 2nd teir FREE AGENT salery cap wize .
Does any one see any winners in the free agent class to along side Okafor?



http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=2008freeagents



whether we keep Okafor or not, I think we'd have to get creative and try to strike gold if we're gonna try to sign a PF. Maybe someone like Brandon Bass or Leon Powe....low risk, potential high reward players that are available if we can't get a good PF via the draft or Okafor sign-and-trade

[dav7z]

By leting Okafor go in a sign and trade we might be better off signing a top teir P/F or a top teir Center.
I feel the draft has a lot more centers than P/Fs.
Thabet, to go along with Brand or Jamison, Smith.
Top teir and 2nd teir free agents below.

http://basketball.fanboom.com/college-basketball/2008-nba-free-agent-rankings-part-2.html


http://basketball.fanboom.com/nba/2008-nba-free-agent-rankings.html


If we draft this guy to go along with Nazz i don't even think we miss Okafor.

http://www.mynbadraft.com/NBA-Draft-Profiles-2008/Hasheem-Thabeet

I think that alows us to pick up a top teir free agent.
1. Felton
2. Rich , Carroll
3. Wallace, Dudley, Morrison
4. [Brand, Jamison, Smith,] May, Davidson
5. Nazz, Thabeet
I don't think we loose a lot in Okafor if we draft Thabeet.
This would make us a lot stronger with out much of a drop off at center.
Instantly we become a serious playoff contender.

[Icky Thump]

Yeah as much as some want Mayo or Rose and I like Gordon * with all respect who are very talented*...

I think we absolutely need some post talent... I have a feeling considering what may be in the draft we are gonna have to draft on potential and be patient though. Jordan and Thabeet may turn in to monsters or may just be average... we'd have to wait and see but really that is where our absolute need is.

[110oldeast]

I know it's heresy on this board, but a trade with Dallas (who was previously interested) featuring Wallace for Brandon Bass (a MONSTER who can shoot, finish, and board) and a 1st rd pick (depending on how matching value plays out) would be a good move for this team if possible. Then you could use the picks for the backcourt, as in a young stud SG and PG for depth and future development in both ends. You also could draft Love as he is basically a young healthy May who would give us a pick and pop weapon. Gerald's offensive chemistry with the current team is murky. I think he's a great energy guy who has signed a contract creating greater and inappropriate expectations.

Felton/back up pg
Carroll or Gordon/Westbrook
Richardson/Dudley/Morrison
Bass and or Love/ Hollins and Davidson at 4 or 5
Okafor/Mohammed

[QCHeel]

I feel like it is imperative for the Bobcats to get longer. Jordan would've been an ideal pick, but I've been disappointed in his development so far.

I really like JaVale McGhee. He hasn't played many years of organized ball, and went under the radar in high school. He is long, quick, and is oozing with potential. I've always felt if you are gonna miss on a prospect, miss big, and miss long. At worst, they make good tradebait.

The kid is raw, but the payoff could be big IF you don't rush him, and if you put the right guys around him. I look at Tyson Chandler, who is great NOW, because he is no longer pushed to be a superstar. We have that problem trying to make superstars (GWallace), when superstars aren't made. If they were, GMs and coaches who could make them would be paid a ton.

[110oldeast]

QC,

I'm all for frontcourt length and athleticism, but I feel that we need some polish and scoring. If McGhee can do that than I'm all for it, but at the present we have 2 guys in Hollins and Davidson that we are "developing." I guess in my mind, it's a matter of how ready and how much attainable upside he has. I liked his film but those are my questions. Obviously, my dream is Beasley, but there is no way now how.

[spectre]

Man, talking about selling high! Didn't Dallas pick Bass up as a UFA just a year or so ago after NOLA let him walk?

Not to disparage your idea...I think he'd be great in Charlotte (I would like to see more than just one above average year out of him). It'd bug me though if we traded Crash for someone who'd basically been cut and a late 1st.

BTW, I think Thabeet is going back to UCONN one more year.

[dav7z]

Man, talking about selling high! Didn't Dallas pick Bass up as a UFA just a year or so ago after NOLA let him walk?

Not to disparage your idea...I think he'd be great in Charlotte (I would like to see more than just one above average year out of him). It'd bug me though if we traded Crash for someone who'd basically been cut and a late 1st.

BTW, I think Thabeet is going back to UCONN one more year.


Thabeet not coming out ouch. I think he would have been perfect for our needs . Shot blocker , rebounder, seting screans. If not him we go with Hibbert. Sign and trade Okafor or just release Okafor what ever gets us Brand, Jamison, Smith one of those three. I agree with spectra about giving up to much for just Bass and a late first round pick.

Nazz and either Thadeet or Hibbert to go along with Hollins should serve our needs.
Brand , Jamison, Smith would all be a hudge pick up.
Could you imagine Brand along side one of the largest fives in the league Hibbert, or Thabeet.
I would sign and trade for any of those three in a flat second. Im sure Brand would love to get away from the Clippers

[QCHeel]

110, I would like an experienced stud in the post also, who knows how to get it done. I'm not up on the cap situation, but we may need to free up some room to truly go after someone. Which is why I'm for trading Gerald. I'm not completely sold on Okafor's EFFECTIVE production. There are alot of guys who can put up numbers when you play them enough minutes, but they don't exactly help your team move forward. These guys tend to stick out when you add other parts to the team and their production fluctuates.

Guys like Hollins are projects, but a guy like McGhee has way more potential. He has a very much improved shot out to 18ft, which exactly that dimension we need to open up the lane.

This team is going to have to do work in the draft and FA. I feel like unless we work our way to the top of the lottery, we won't get the less risk, almost sure-fire guys. Through the draft we need to address things like guys who can create, take their man off the dribble, create mismatches, and defend. Then get guys in FA who can immediately produce, and allow the youngins to grow.

[dav7z]

Spectra , Slam , Ohara, Heel . 1O1 .and all you other members assuming Beasley is gone .
What draft pick of free agent would fill our need the most at power foward ?
You the GM make your draft pick or trade thet puts this team in the playoffs.
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[Slam]

Crash, Ammo and Davidson for Mayo, Brewer and Walker

Westbrook and Pig Boy for Frye and DJ

Felts - DJ
Mayo - Hammer
Swish - Dude - Brewer
Frye - McMay - Walker
EO50 - Nazzy - Twiggy

[dav7z]

B

Crash, Ammo and Davidson for Mayo, Brewer and Walker

Westbrook and Pig Boy for Frye and DJ

Felts - DJ
Mayo - Hammer
Swish - Dude - Brewer
Frye - McMay - Walker
EO50 - Nazzy - Twiggy



Slam i like that alot . I just don't see them doing Pig boy and Westbrook for Frye a DJ. But i would do it in a second.

I like us grting Mayo too Brewer and Walker.

VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT REP IT UP

I s it any other GM traders out thair. Lets see what you come up with ?
So far Slams is the best .
Let us see what you come up with?