Morrison and May

[dav7z]

Last year Morrison and May was no help at all to the team .
1. Morrison has yet to prove he even belongs in the NBA. If any roll at all what roll do you see Morrison having next year on a team filled with wings.
2. May has proven very little all so except he can play when hes healthy. What do you see his role being next year . With no power fowards.
Does either have any value or is that just seven milion dollars paid out for two BUST players.

Your openions

[M.Peezie]

Maybe I see things too half full at times, but I think they may prove something this coming season. Perhaps not at the level we originially expected, but will be able to contribute to our team in different ways. A lot depends on the coach, I think a coach like Larry Brown can instill some discipline and if they don't want to work hard then they will be gone simple as that. My predictions are below:

Adam Morrison-I think he will provide a spark off the bench for scoring, but I doubt he will be a solid starter to count on. A #3 pick was a bit high for a player like this.

Sean May- Hopefully he is working hard in the weight room and not at a buffet table. If he could whip himself into shape he could be a reliable power forward to get rebounds and hit 18 foot jump shots on a pick and roll. FWIW a poster on another site said he saw Larry Brown and Sean May together in Charleston over the weekend. Of course this could be totally bogus, but if true, maybe Sean May needs that tough coach to invest into him to get him going. Again, probably too high of a pick to use on a player like this, but hey I would love for these guys to surprise me!

[EvetsMorrison15]

Maybe I see things too half full at times, but I think they may prove something this coming season. Perhaps not at the level we originially expected, but will be able to contribute to our team in different ways. A lot depends on the coach, I think a coach like Larry Brown can instill some discipline and if they don't want to work hard then they will be gone simple as that. My predictions are below:

Adam Morrison-I think he will provide a spark off the bench for scoring, but I doubt he will be a solid starter to count on. A #3 pick was a bit high for a player like this. te he he he he


Come on! Have I been the only one WATCHING! and LISTENING?

People called Morrison a gym rat. So he likes to shoot in the gym all the time. WHICH MEANS........... HE WORKS ON HIS GAME ALL THE TIME. Now I'm not just talking about shooting. This guy passionate about the game and is constantly working to better himself. A man like that doesn't just want to be a bench player. He's working for greatness.

Gilbert Arenas is working on his game all the time.
Kobe Bryant is working on his game all the time.

Does Jeff McInnis work on his game all the time? No! That's why he's a sorry player.

Morrison did come off a bad year. A ROOKIE YEAR!!!! What do you expect out of this guy? He had a bad rookie year, and got injured his next. Now you basing your shit opinion off those 2 seasons?

3rd pick was a bit too high for him.

Yeah if you base his WHOLE 1 year career. You've got to see him playing to judge him. I saw him in Pre-season before he got hurt and I saw a different player. Offensively and DEFENSIVELY! When you have a bad year, they only place to go is UP! So he can only get better. That's common knowledge in more subjects than sports.

Or we can go by M.Peezie's opinion on a basketball player.

3rd pick was a bit too high for him.

I take offense to this because I play basketball. Not in a HIGH CLASS association, but that's not the point.

The point is that if I had a bad season in a league and people judged me on just one season of play, that would piss me off. I know I would come back to play better. Then it's like not giving someone a chance just off 1 season. Not even allowing someone to prove themselves better.

3rd pick was a bit too high for him.

We don't know yet. Will we? YES!

bench player... ha.

I could say that your quick to judge, but i'd rather say your dumb.

and wrong.

[Muttley]

FWIW a poster on another site said he saw Larry Brown and Sean May together in Charleston over the weekend.

Hmm... Maybe Larry Brown's "daughter's birthday" is code for "hang with Sean May in Charleston."

If this were true - and it's extremely hard not to doubt it - then I would already be very happy with the direction that Brown would be taking the team. Of course, he's not even the coach yet, so....

[spectre]

Heh Steve, I know you were using McInnis as an example for a bad player (and he was), but I think he does hang in the gym a lot. Sposedly that's where the idiot got to liking him so much when he first came on.

But guys...come on! These 2 are worth 40 points per game and their absence kept us out of the playoffs this year!

Show some love!

[Muttley]

But guys...come on! These 2 are worth 40 points per game and their absence kept us out of the playoffs this year!

Show some love!

That's true spectre, add those two guys into the mix and we'd be lauding the greatness of Coach-of-the-Year Sam Vincent and would be playing the Wizards in the first round of the Playoffs as the 4th seed.

[Keetch]

"I could say that your quick to judge, but i'd rather say your dumb.

and wrong."



Whoa...that kind of sucked. Maybe shoulda stopped at "quick to judge"? which was fair enough.

No personal attacks please; yes even over such outrageous statements as the 3rd pick being a bit too high for a player like Ammo.

[Mustachio]

Last year Morrison and May was no help at all to the team .
1. Morrison has yet to prove he even belongs in the NBA. If any roll at all what roll do you see Morrison having next year on a team filled with wings.
2. May has proven very little all so except he can play when hes healthy. What do you see his role being next year . With no power fowards.
Does either have any value or is that just seven milion dollars paid out for two BUST players.

Your openions



I think its more than a little bit unfair to say Morrison has yet to prove he belongs when he has done one thing Sean May never has. Go through a full season. In my opinion, Morrison showed every bit as much talent and ability at the next level as Sean May has. He just happens to have more hype and play at a loaded position so people can't wait to say hes a bust.

If you ask me... I'd keep Morrison over May any day. At least Morrison has showed about a 10th of interest in basketball. Id rather have a guy try and fail on my team than a guy eat himself to death.

[EvetsMorrison15]

"I could say that your quick to judge, but i'd rather say your dumb.

and wrong."



Whoa...that kind of sucked. Maybe shoulda stopped at "quick to judge"? which was fair enough.

No personal attacks please; yes even over such outrageous statements as the 3rd pick being a bit too high for a player like Ammo.

I could say it's a personal attack, but I'd rather think of it as stating the obvious.

better?

how about your a square.

aaaa I'll work on it

[dav7z]

Must, im not saying i don't like Morrison or May. And i am not saying im not wishing both the best.

Facts for all you guys ,First MORRISON just came from a ACL seregy. Yes a carer ending injery for most players. He will NEVER have the mobility in that leg again. Morrison being slow in the first place doesn't help at all .In my openion his chances of coming back are about twenty percent. That doesn't reflect on Morrison as a person it reflects on the injery.
Even if he does make it back it will be hard to jump a head of Dudley because of defence. Lary Brown is a defencive coach which will make things much harder for Morrison trying to be careful not to hurt the knee again.
May i agree with most . Hes brought a lot of this on his self by not staying in shape. Micro fracture segery is new for me and i don't know the sesess of it. But i will say it's no way it can be worse than a ACL segery . Though i think it can be a carer ending segery too.I don't think May has the work ethic thet Morrison has. But i would still give him a better chance of returning than Morrison, about a fourty percent chance. If he does come back he has a much better chance of playing or even starting than Morrison because he has very little compitition at the power foward spot.
I like both players but right now i would rather have that combined seven million to invest on a proven power foward. As i don't think either player will come back and be a real good player after such severe segerys.
May and Morrison please prove me stupid .OK

[dav7z]

Must, im not saying i don't like Morrison or May. And i am not saying im not wishing both the best.

Facts for all you guys ,First MORRISON just came from a ACL seregy. Yes a carer ending injery for most players. He will NEVER have the mobility in that leg again. Morrison being slow in the first place doesn't help at all .In my openion his chances of coming back are about twenty percent. That doesn't reflect on Morrison as a person it reflects on the injery.
Even if he does make it back it will be hard to jump a head of Dudley because of defence. Lary Brown is a defencive coach which will make things much harder for Morrison trying to be careful not to hurt the knee again.
May i agree with most . Hes brought a lot of this on his self by not staying in shape. Micro fracture segery is new for me and i don't know the sesess of it. But i will say it's no way it can be worse than a ACL segery . Though i think it can be carer ending segery too.I don't think May has the work ethic thet Morrison has. But i would still give him a better chance of returning than Morrison about a fourty percent chance. If he does come back he has a much better chance of playing or even starting than Morrison because he has very little compitition at the power foward spot.
I like both players but right now i would rather have that combined seven million to invest on a proven power foward. As i don't think either player will come back and be a real good player after such severe segerys.
May and Morrison show me im stupid.

[ohara831]

It wont surprise me one bit if Brown uses one or both of them as trade fodder. He will want to put his stamp on the team, and I can see them being moved for someone Brown wants on the team.

[dav7z]

It wont surprise me one bit if Brown uses one or both of them as trade fodder. He will want to put his stamp on the team, and I can see them being moved for someone Brown wants on the team.

Agreeded but i don't see much value thair except expiring contracts. It might be better to try and play them long enough til they gained some trade value. I think both players have talent but health is a major issue. A issue i don't know how L,B or the Bobcats know how to handle .
I do think we need healthy bodies in those two positions to make a serious run .
Weather its Morrison or May it don't matter . We just need contribution out of those two spots. And to me it looks as if both carers are about done for.

[ohara831]

Agreeded but i don't see much value thair except expiring contracts. It might be better to try and play them long enough til they gained some trade value. I think both players have talent but health is a major issue. A issue i don't know how L,B or the Bobcats know how to handle .
I do think we need healthy bodies in those two positions to make a serious run .
Weather its Morrison or May it don't matter . We just need contribution out of those two spots. And to me it looks as if both carers are about done for.

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I may be wrong, but May seems to me to be a long shot to return. Either via health or Larry Brown packaging him in a trade. I just dont see him as a Brown player.

Morrison is a different story. I think Brown would like Morrison, but again, if he can be packaged in a trade for someone who fits Larry Brown's idea of this Team identity he wants to forge, he'll be gone. I think MJ and Bob will leave a whole lot up to Brown as Brown has proven he knows how to get the most from his players.

[Keetch]

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/brown-hails-the-virtue-of-practice/n20080429165609990065?ecid=RSS0001

Mike Cranston from AP Sports had this on today's press conference for Larry Brown:

"..."I saw Sean (May) when I walked in and Matt (Carroll)," Brown said. "And the kid with the long hair, I didn't know his name. He wasn't dressed like a basketball player."

That would be the shaggy-haired, thin-mustached Adam Morrison, who missed all of last season with a knee injury...."

Tom Ziller on AOL's Funhouse wrote about this as if it was a slam on Ammo, but honestly it sounds more like Coach Brown was just having fun, which actually is a sort of compliment.

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/04/29/in-which-adam-morrisons-stock-plummets/

[Slam]

I hope he is kidding?

Surely he's got to know something about our team.................right?

[Muttley]

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/brown-hails-the-virtue-of-practice/n20080429165609990065?ecid=RSS0001

Mike Cranston from AP Sports had this on today's press conference for Larry Brown:

"..."I saw Sean (May) when I walked in and Matt (Carroll)," Brown said. "And the kid with the long hair, I didn't know his name. He wasn't dressed like a basketball player."

That would be the shaggy-haired, thin-mustached Adam Morrison, who missed all of last season with a knee injury...."

Tom Ziller on AOL's Funhouse wrote about this as if it was a slam on Ammo, but honestly it sounds more like Coach Brown was just having fun, which actually is a sort of compliment.

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/04/29/in-which-adam-morrisons-stock-plummets/


Larry Brown was on the Dan Patrick show about an hour ago and cleared this up.

Basically, he said he didn't recognize him, but of course knew him from Gonzaga and liked Adam a lot. He also called him a "gym rat" which he then said was just his kind of player.

I think we'll see us quite a bit of AMMO next year provided he's healthy.

[Alex]

It's hard for me to believe that we'll see a bit of Ammo when he lacks any sort of defensive game whatsoever. If we know anything about Larry Brown it's that he loves players who can play good defense and Ammo is absolutely terrible in that department.

[dav7z]

It will be instering to see what Brown does with both players. [if healthy]
May hated Roy Williams his last two years but Roy said either get in shape or don;t play.Look at what May did when he had to. May has the ability to be real good. But Lary Brown will put up with less crap than Williams did . So May better get his fat ass in shape quick or his NBA carer might be over.
Morrison i feel sorry for coming off of ACL seregy on a team full of wings. Its no way he can't be a step slow and hes slow any way. I think he will bust his ass but in all reality i don't it will be enough. I hope he either gets time to get his speed back and show what he can do or get traded to a team who has a need for wings. Provided he comes back at all .
Dudley and Carroll hurts Morrison bad both being Browns type of players . Carroll is truely a over achiver coming from the D league . And he surely don't mind busting his ass.
Ever one knows Dudley is a glue guy and will fit in perfectly. I could even see one of those two cutting in on Crashes playing time because Crash is more of a one on one . Dudley and Carroll is more team.

[Jonathanmartin7]

Morrison15, I couldn't agree with you more. Especially in regards to Adam, he only had 1 year in the pro's and people are bashing him. He is far more than a bench player and will prove it this season.

Sean has shown us that he is going to be a good player, just hope he can stay healthy.

[Mustachio]

Dav... i really dont know why your so worried about his ACL. I know its a bad injury.

But hundreds of atheletes blow them out and come back fine. Its almost a common surgery at this point.

Here is a random article I found about Nene Hilario and Robert Swift . Both still in the NBA and both had the same surgery as May and Ammo.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/309644_nban30.html

here's a little tidbit if you dont wanna sift. and im not saying this isnt a serious deal. It is. but its big money to fix these atheletes and where theres big money theres big effort at solving things. I think Ammo should be fine. May im a little more worried about returning. But dont sweat it.

From above posted article : "ACL tears are common in pro football and becoming more common in the NBA. Because of modern surgery and rehabilitation regimens, it is almost assumed these days that players will return 100 percent. But that is a large assumption, especially when you're a large man."

If Nene and all 7 feet of him can come back... Ammo can.

[EvetsMorrison15]

Morrison is younger.

[ammofan]

Come on! Have I been the only one WATCHING! and LISTENING?

People called Morrison a gym rat. So he likes to shoot in the gym all the time. WHICH MEANS........... HE WORKS ON HIS GAME ALL THE TIME. Now I'm not just talking about shooting. This guy passionate about the game and is constantly working to better himself. A man like that doesn't just want to be a bench player. He's working for greatness.

Gilbert Arenas is working on his game all the time.
Kobe Bryant is working on his game all the time.

Does Jeff McInnis work on his game all the time? No! That's why he's a sorry player.

Morrison did come off a bad year. A ROOKIE YEAR!!!! What do you expect out of this guy? He had a bad rookie year, and got injured his next. Now you basing your shit opinion off those 2 seasons?

3rd pick was a bit too high for him.

Yeah if you base his WHOLE 1 year career. You've got to see him playing to judge him. I saw him in Pre-season before he got hurt and I saw a different player. Offensively and DEFENSIVELY! When you have a bad year, they only place to go is UP! So he can only get better. That's common knowledge in more subjects than sports.

Or we can go by M.Peezie's opinion on a basketball player.

3rd pick was a bit too high for him.

I take offense to this because I play basketball. Not in a HIGH CLASS association, but that's not the point.

The point is that if I had a bad season in a league and people judged me on just one season of play, that would piss me off. I know I would come back to play better. Then it's like not giving someone a chance just off 1 season. Not even allowing someone to prove themselves better.

3rd pick was a bit too high for him.

We don't know yet. Will we? YES!

bench player... ha.

I could say that your quick to judge, but i'd rather say your dumb.

and wrong.


man, thats like one of my posts!!

Yes I completley agree with you. We cant say that Morrison was a dumb pick or only a bench player or never gonna be what he was in college. I HONESTLY dont think his rookie season was that bad. I think he helped our team out alot and look at what we did without him this year---1 less win even with Richardson....who knows, maybe we would have made the playoffs with Adam playing. I really do think he could have averaged 15-18 ppg this season. Remember how Gerald was out for weeks on end at some points this year? Morrison could have started along with Feltons, Richardson, Dudley, and Mek. I think thats better than say, McInnis, Felton, Dudley, Richardson, Okafor or felton, Carroll, Richardson, Dudley, Mek/Nazr....

[Jonathanmartin7]

Morrison is younger.
Morrison is also a diabetic which makes recovery harder. Dibetics don't heal near as quickly. I hope (and belive) he will recover very well.

[dav7z]

Dav... i really dont know why your so worried about his ACL. I know its a bad injury.

But hundreds of atheletes blow them out and come back fine. Its almost a common surgery at this point.

Here is a random article I found about Nene Hilario and Robert Swift . Both still in the NBA and both had the same surgery as May and Ammo.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/309644_nban30.html

here's a little tidbit if you dont wanna sift. and im not saying this isnt a serious deal. It is. but its big money to fix these atheletes and where theres big money theres big effort at solving things. I think Ammo should be fine. May im a little more worried about returning. But dont sweat it.

From above posted article : "ACL tears are common in pro football and becoming more common in the NBA. Because of modern surgery and rehabilitation regimens, it is almost assumed these days that players will return 100 percent. But that is a large assumption, especially when you're a large man."

If Nene and all 7 feet of him can come back... Ammo can.


Good articals and good finds . But as Nene said after 18 months hes geting confidence but the knee still swells. I all so know knee seregys first hand . I have had a severed ACL the ligment is torn compleatly into ,. Morrison to just didn't have a tare his ACL was severed too. The ligimate NEVER gets as tight as be for the injery.
Ive had Cartlidge segery , ACL seregy, and Totle Knee replacement and im hear to tell you all a severed ACL segery is worse than totle knee replacement . You never trust that leg again in fear or another tare . The knee bows because it's loose making you think you going to fall . And thats just walking. I continued to have sweeling til i had a knee replacement. Running , cutting jumping, The thought of that just makes me quenge . It's possable he returns and im really pulling for him because its a major come back. But you guys are going to have to realize his chances of ever being a 100 percent is only about twenty percent.He all so has another problem too having dabitis . That too slows healing down as im a diabetic too. and it has messed up my kidneys and my eyes and makes any kind of seregy slow to heal. Morrison is tough and my prayers are with him for a full recovery.If he does recover a hundred percent from this he will be my hero.
So no i don't hate him . I respect him for just making it this far . One thing i don't like about him is him smoking with all the health problems he all ready has.

As far as May i don't know about microfracture segery. But in no way shape or form can i see it being worse than a severed ACL.

[timang]

Morrison is also a diabetic which makes recovery harder. Dibetics don't heal near as quickly. I hope (and belive) he will recover very well.

waw, welcome back jmartin7!

[Alex]

man, thats like one of my posts!!

Yes I completley agree with you. We cant say that Morrison was a dumb pick or only a bench player or never gonna be what he was in college. I HONESTLY dont think his rookie season was that bad. I think he helped our team out alot and look at what we did without him this year---1 less win even with Richardson....who knows, maybe we would have made the playoffs with Adam playing. I really do think he could have averaged 15-18 ppg this season. Remember how Gerald was out for weeks on end at some points this year? Morrison could have started along with Feltons, Richardson, Dudley, and Mek. I think thats better than say, McInnis, Felton, Dudley, Richardson, Okafor or felton, Carroll, Richardson, Dudley, Mek/Nazr....

ammofan I just wanted to comment at how disgusted I am by your sig (the curry part). Being a Charlotte student, Stephen Curry is to us what JJ Redick was to Carolina fans when he was at Duke :D

[EvetsMorrison15]

ammofan I just wanted to comment at how disgusted I am by your sig (the curry part). Being a Charlotte student, Stephen Curry is to us what JJ Redick was to Carolina fans when he was at Duke :D

Ok, there is a problem in your post. So you hate Stephen Curry just because he didn't go to UNC? How lame is that. And lame to everyone else who thinks the same way. Unless Stephen Curry attempted to burn down the UNC campus, you have NO reason to hate him. Leave school rivalries to the Schools, not the players.

Now I get that joke.

What do UNC students and Duke students have in common?

they both applied for Duke.

get off Ammofans nuts man. Let him like who he wants

[dav7z]

Ok, there is a problem in your post. So you hate Stephen Curry just because he didn't go to UNC? How lame is that. And lame to everyone else who thinks the same way. Unless Stephen Curry attempted to burn down the UNC campus, you have NO reason to hate him. Leave school rivalries to the Schools, not the players.

Now I get that joke.

What do UNC students and Duke students have in common?

they both applied for Duke.

get off Ammofans nuts man. Let him like who he wants


Agreeded let ever one like who they want. Its no big deal. I like Curry to and im a hudge Carolina fan . Personally Williams has said hes screwed up on not going after Curry.
I wouldn't even mind Curry being a combo guard for us. I think the kid will be better than his dad.

Thats like Morrison most people think i hate him because i don't think he will ever be 100 percent again. Truth be told i like him because hes a BOBCAT period . And im pulling for him to get back on the floor. I don't think he will but im still pulling for him.
May me being a Carolina fan i don't like as well as Morrison because he don't have the heart and the hustle Morrison does. It don't matter what school you come from ,after you join the team all we should see is just Bobcat.

[Jonathanmartin7]

I just really hope that both of them come back healthy and contribute. If either of these guys lives up to his potential, much less both, then making the playoffs is a gimmie.

[MattD]

I am not going to lie, I am getting really tired of this conversation. Morrison and May will both try and comeback next year. They WILL be on the team unless they get dished into a larger trade.

They both have plenty to work for, and you May haters and Morrison haters a like will just have to chill out and wait until next season.

Morrisons rookie season, was by all means, disappointing, but he will get another chance. His defense WAS sorry, into pre-season of this year too (say what you like, but your delusional). Maybe hes worked to put on more weight.

There is no doubt hes a talented scorer, but whether he can keep up in this league is up in the air. Next year will be a big turning point. It will either earn the players respect and another chance, or really hurt them. We will have to wait.

Both have yet to really impress, but have had their moments.

Until then, we can only hope that they are working hard to be ready for next year, otherwise the franchise will have to leave them in the dust.

[MattD]

Ok, there is a problem in your post. So you hate Stephen Curry just because he didn't go to UNC? How lame is that. And lame to everyone else who thinks the same way. Unless Stephen Curry attempted to burn down the UNC campus, you have NO reason to hate him. Leave school rivalries to the Schools, not the players.

Now I get that joke.

What do UNC students and Duke students have in common?

they both applied for Duke.

get off Ammofans nuts man. Let him like who he wants

i think you need to chill out, he was only joking, hence the smily face thing. no one actually hates/wants to kill anyone else