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[Bobcat4Ever]

I think they look really unprofessional and look like they were done in a hurry. Anyone else agree? Also could my name be changed back to Bobcat4Ever? Thanks

[ziggy]

In my humble opinon Alex, Ammofan and SteveMorrison15 all did a great job coming up with the headers.

but to each his own..

[Alex]

i like mine a lot :D

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/joomla/images/headers/mek_and_ray.jpg

[Muttley]

I liked the headers we had on version 1.0 of Bobcats Planet. (note: I really like the updates and work that Ziggy has put in to the new site) I dunno, maybe I'm biased and anti-change, but the header on the home page just isn't up to par with how it looked before.

edit: Yeah, Alex, I like yours a lot. Where can I see it used?

[TheBeagle]

Well, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to change, but I like the headers. Those and the arcade are great new additions. I'm still getting used to the actual boards, namely the new text screen, how to reply, and such. I sorely miss the old emoticons and the player names that were analogous to number of posts; those two are my only complaints about the new, otherwise improved site.

[Muttley]

Okay Alex, I think I just saw your work on the home page. It's sweet. I guess I just wasn't too enthralled with the "stars" headers, but the ones that Alex is churning out are excellent and flow well with the new site.

And the arcade is most sweet.

[Alex]

It's my understanding, from ziggy, that all the banners on the main page just rotate every time you come to the site, so you may see mine once and then you may see the others some other time you visit.

[Keetch]

I mostly miss being able to ring up just the new posts. I am using the NEW POSTS on the menu, but its not as nice as the old one. Its not a big deal though, overall this is better I think.

As for the home page headers, they're so dominant now on the home page that its important that they be well done. To that extent, I think they could use improvement. For whatever my 2 cents are worth I think Alex's is very good, the one with the BIG Bobcats Planet in the center is fun, but the lens flare one is not as good. I suppose that's the one I'd try to improve first. Lens Flare is kind of an over-used photoshop enhancement. Likewise, the Bobcat in the circle on the left side is not well proportioned and kind of ugly (sorry I don't know a better way to say it) :P.

Honestly, my first impression the first time I rung up the site and saw the lens flare header wasn't positive. But otherwise its all looking good.

I know that's being subjective and critical, but part of being an artist is to receive praise and criticism for your work.

I've done a lot of photoshopping myself and have done some good work and some not so good. It takes a lot of time, rework, exploring, testing and reworking again; to get it right. I know that sometimes these take an awful long time to do; but generally when you get one good you know it! ha its a fun feeling....which usually involves laughing out loud and clapping your hands at your computer.

Good stuff happens with the not so good, but the fun part is you keep going and do better.

Grats to Ammofan, SteveMorrison and Alex for your efforts and good work! You guys are awesome!

[EvetsMorrison15]

I totally agree. Those space banners are Horrible. I mean Space? WTF? Can you say Lame! I mean what does Space have to do with Bobcats planet? I think that new logo is cool but I don't get the bobcat face on the planet. Where does that tie in with our cool site. Lens Flare? Doesn't look like lights from Space at all. Skeetch was right, the most basic feature on Photoshop. Well not as basic as Color Overlay but basic non the less.

I really loved listening to Skeetch's words of wisdom on pictures. It really speaks to me. Skeetch any of your work on the Internet anywhere? Can we see some of your work?

I noticed the bobcat letters spell "Planet" along with the Players names, but I don't know if it was really needed here.

I would have totally did something better like take pictures and logos and just did something basic. You know, not that much talent put into the work. Blue and Orange color overlay stuff. You know stuff you can do with one hand on the mouse and the other eating a Sub. Few clicks and your done.

Come on people!

Bobcats head on a Planet.

Bobcats Planet and Planet Head.

Those words don't even match. Who made those Space banners? I think we should all go to this kids house and beat the crap out of him for being so talented but off topic. Who's with me?

I'm going to go throw up from all this talk about Space and Planets here on Bobcats PLANET.

[Muttley]

I'm going to go throw up from all this talk about Space and Planets here on Bobcats PLANET.

Maybe you shouldn't get your panties in a wad.

Keetch was just giving some constructive criticism, and not by any means trying to insult you directly.

I for one agree with Keetch. I'm not huge on the space-header, either. It doesn't seem to fit aesthetically with the rest of the site. Now, admittedly, I know nothing of photo-shopping or how much more difficult it was to do what you did versus what Alex did or what Ammofan or anyone else did. All I can do is give some feedback on how it looks. Difficulty and complexity do not translate to beauty, though. Consider Mozart. He wrote simpler pieces, but they were brilliant and beautiful just the same.

I think most everyone here appreciates your work. Those comics you made were fantastic. I'm sorry that you are getting upset over the fact that someone didn't like one thing you did.

[Bobcat4Ever]

i like mine a lot :D

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/joomla/images/headers/mek_and_ray.jpg

I really like yours alot. I wish they would all be that nice.

[TheBeagle]

I totally agree. Those space banners are Horrible. I mean Space? WTF? Can you say Lame! I mean what does Space have to do with Bobcats planet? I think that new logo is cool but I don't get the bobcat face on the planet. Where does that tie in with our cool site. Lens Flare? Doesn't look like lights from Space at all. Skeetch was right, the most basic feature on Photoshop. Well not as basic as Color Overlay but basic non the less.

I really loved listening to Skeetch's words of wisdom on pictures. It really speaks to me. Skeetch any of your work on the Internet anywhere? Can we see some of your work?

I noticed the bobcat letters spell "Planet" along with the Players names, but I don't know if it was really needed here.

I would have totally did something better like take pictures and logos and just did something basic. You know, not that much talent put into the work. Blue and Orange color overlay stuff. You know stuff you can do with one hand on the mouse and the other eating a Sub. Few clicks and your done.

Come on people!

Bobcats head on a Planet.

Bobcats Planet and Planet Head.

Those words don't even match. Who made those Space banners? I think we should all go to this kids house and beat the crap out of him for being so talented but off topic. Who's with me?

I'm going to go throw up from all this talk about Space and Planets here on Bobcats PLANET.
I'm so tempted to rep this up!! Awesome post!! You're channeling your inner George Costanza and Larry David, and to be honest, I love it! Muttley's right about Keetch's comments, though; he's not insulting you. Still, I love the tirade for reasons listed above!

PS. I actually think the space header looks pretty good.

[Keetch]

Steve15, I totally understand where you're coming from.

My sincerest apologies. :)

[ziggy]

Well, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to change, but I like the headers. Those and the arcade are great new additions. I'm still getting used to the actual boards, namely the new text screen, how to reply, and such. I sorely miss the old emoticons and the player names that were analogous to number of posts; those two are my only complaints about the new, otherwise improved site.

Guys give this a try
http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7155
and let me know if it helps your smilie situation.:rock::afro::funkybanana::running:

[EvetsMorrison15]

Maybe you shouldn't get your panties in a wad.

Keetch was just giving some constructive criticism, and not by any means trying to insult you directly.

I for one agree with Keetch. I'm not huge on the space-header, either. It doesn't seem to fit aesthetically with the rest of the site. Now, admittedly, I know nothing of photo-shopping or how much more difficult it was to do what you did versus what Alex did or what Ammofan or anyone else did. All I can do is give some feedback on how it looks. Difficulty and complexity do not translate to beauty, though. Consider Mozart. He wrote simpler pieces, but they were brilliant and beautiful just the same.

I think most everyone here appreciates your work. Those comics you made were fantastic. I'm sorry that you are getting upset over the fact that someone didn't like one thing you did.

Panties in a wad... when that happens to a girl, does she really get pissed off? What does that even mean? NO! Don't answer that. I'd rather not have to read any more of your responses.

Insulting my work IS insulting me. It's like saying " Man Steve, you are so dumb. But I'm not insulting you ". That doesn't make sense! I have every right to say something. So you can take your Mozart post and shove it.

But in all fairness I should be mad at little boy wonder BobcatFan91. This little 16 year old punk makes a thread bashing peoples work. Now you can make a Positive Thread and show someone some appreciation.

BUT!

When you start a Negative Thread bashing people's work, your trying to start something. Then you continue to say stuff within the thread to add more fuel to the fire. Just because Ziggy didn't ask for your help with the banners, . . . . should I say something smart or do you get it?

Can you take the normal Bobcats logo and alter it the way I did?

Put the Cat face on a planet texture?

Make the whole Charlotte Font Alphabet by only using the Letters B O C A T S ?

Let me answer that for you.

No, No, and NO way I'm too busy trying to change my name.

How about you change your name to BitchFace91. It would fit you and everyone here would agree.

Ammofan, good job on your banners and I can Message you the Font if you want.

[Alex]

Panties in a wad... when that happens to a girl, does she really get pissed off? What does that even mean? NO! Don't answer that. I'd rather not have to read any more of your responses.

Insulting my work IS insulting me. It's like saying " Man Steve, you are so dumb. But I'm not insulting you ". That doesn't make sense! I have every right to say something. So you can take your Mozart post and shove it.

But in all fairness I should be mad at little boy wonder BobcatFan91. This little 16 year old punk makes a thread bashing peoples work. Now you can make a Positive Thread and show someone some appreciation.

BUT!

When you start a Negative Thread bashing people's work, your trying to start something. Then you continue to say stuff within the thread to add more fuel to the fire. Just because Ziggy didn't ask for your help with the banners, . . . . should I say something smart or do you get it?

Can you take the normal Bobcats logo and alter it the way I did?

Put the Cat face on a planet texture?

Make the whole Charlotte Font Alphabet by only using the Letters B O C A T S ?

Let me answer that for you.

No, No, and NO way I'm too busy trying to change my name.

How about you change your name to BitchFace91. It would fit you and everyone here would agree.

Ammofan, good job on your banners and I can Message you the Font if you want.

Dude, that is ridiculously immature. I got a s*it load of negative criticism when I first started working with graphics and I didn't get angry at the person who was dishing it whether they knew how to create graphics or not. You have to take every single piece of criticism and use it to get better. You're just being defensive about frankly some sub par work. The concept behind all of them is great but they can be executed much better so stop acting like you're the second coming of Pablo Picasso and have some humility.

[dnbman]

Dude, that is ridiculously immature. I got a s*it load of negative criticism when I first started working with graphics and I didn't get angry at the person who was dishing it whether they knew how to create graphics or not. You have to take every single piece of criticism and use it to get better. You're just being defensive about frankly some sub par work. The concept behind all of them is great but they can be executed much better so stop acting like you're the second coming of Pablo Picasso and have some humility.

Agreed. If you're any kind of artist-- music, visual, writer, etc.-- you have to accept criticism graciously or you'll never make it.

It's one thing to be so visionary that people don't understand the vision. It's another so simply not execute the idea effectively.

Suffice to say, I've yet to see a internet banner that was so visionary that it transcended criticism.

[ammofan]

Ammofan, good job on your banners and I can Message you the Font if you want.

Thanks Please do message the fonts!



TO EVERYONE: I feel that i did not do my best work....I would love to do a few more!

[ammofan]

Here's a new banner hot off da press!!!! lol

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg179/NBAphotoshopdesigns/Untitled-2-1.jpg

[EvetsMorrison15]

Dude, that is ridiculously immature. I got a s*it load of negative criticism when I first started working with graphics and I didn't get angry at the person who was dishing it whether they knew how to create graphics or not. You have to take every single piece of criticism and use it to get better. You're just being defensive about frankly some sub par work. The concept behind all of them is great but they can be executed much better so stop acting like you're the second coming of Pablo Picasso and have some humility.

hahahahahahahahaha

[Alex]

hahahahahahahahaha

What are you 12?

[timang]

it's getting hot in herree :rolleyes:

anyways, i just think the header looks bigger than it should be but i'm not as bothered as to w/ the designs in it. just starting to get the hang of the new site. :biggrin:

[EvetsMorrison15]

What are you 12?

Actually I'm 13 going on 14.

But why are you listening to me? Everyone sucked your ass with your pictures.

And my work is Sub par?

Here's something you don't know. I did my pictures in Paint. Except for the lens flare, and sizing my logo down a little bit, and the players name logo's. My first 2 comics where done all in Paint. I don't want any praise for that, I just want you to REALLY understand how I make most of my pictures. I get Technical with my work. I barely use Adobe for my work because unlike most Graphic Artists, I believe in doing things by hand. A few clicks for you and everyone else, but not me. I don't spend too long on pictures either.

I take my work personally. Excuse me. I can careless about what negative things are said about my work. BUT! Bobcatfan91 Made it public and made it a personal attack. He's trying to piss me off. You don't do that unless your starting something. That's why I'm being the way I am. It's my work! Alex, When someone makes a Thread about bashing your work ( which I will try not to do in the near future ) I will understand if you make some posts defending your work. Now it may not look that way because I applaud the guy for not making it obvious that he's shitting on my work.

Just try understand a little bit more than you do now.

[Alex]

Actually I'm 13 going on 14.

But why are you listening to me? Everyone sucked your ass with your pictures.

And my work is Sub par?

Here's something you don't know. I did my pictures in Paint. Except for the lens flare, and sizing my logo down a little bit, and the players name logo's. My first 2 comics where done all in Paint. I don't want any praise for that, I just want you to REALLY understand how I make most of my pictures. I get Technical with my work. I barely use Adobe for my work because unlike most Graphic Artists, I believe in doing things by hand. A few clicks for you and everyone else, but not me. I don't spend too long on pictures either.

I take my work personally. Excuse me. I can careless about what negative things are said about my work. BUT! Bobcatfan91 Made it public and made it a personal attack. He's trying to piss me off. You don't do that unless your starting something. That's why I'm being the way I am. It's my work! Alex, When someone makes a Thread about bashing your work ( which I will try not to do in the near future ) I will understand if you make some posts defending your work. Now it may not look that way because I applaud the guy for not making it obvious that he's shitting on my work.

Just try understand a little bit more than you do now.

Paint? Lens flare?

:hypo:

[ammofan]

Your 13? :0 I thought I was the youngest on here! Lol....I am 14 going on 15 in August...

But really...why does age matter? We are all Cats fans here....haha

Events morrison..Are you gonna send me that font? THX in advance!

[EvetsMorrison15]

I'm not 13.

[ammofan]

How old r ya then? LOL was that a joke?!?!? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL