Another coach's take on what brown likes

[dav7z]

Morrison in trouble [Trade Bait] , Can't guard on a Larry Brown team.
Rich and Wallace don't need to be on the floor at the same time. Rich needs to inprove his defense.
Wallace has got to quit the gambling on defense.
Felton has got to get better on stopping penatration up the middle.
Okafor is a must sign for a Larry Brown team.
Josh Childress would be a great fit to the team.
Kinda makes me think Wallace could be trade bait too if Brown is big on Childress.


http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2008/05/another-coachs.html

Your thoughts on this article?

[supadiscofly]

Being a huge Morrison fan, I would hate to ever see him leave the Bobcats. I hope things work out for him and he stays with the team.

As for Josh Childress, I would love to see him added to the Bobcats. I was really impressed by him in the playoffs this season. Plus, the big afro rules.

[ammofan]

Being a huge Morrison fan, I would hate to ever see him leave the Bobcats. I hope things work out for him and he stays with the team.

As for Josh Childress, I would love to see him added to the Bobcats. I was really impressed by him in the playoffs this season. Plus, the big afro rules.

Your not as big as a fan as me!!!!!! Adam most definatley should not be traded. That would be just plain stupid. Why the H-E-double hockey stick would you trade a guy who is way ahead of schedlue after a very serious injury, and works very very hard to improve on his game and does whatever his coach tells him to do? >:(

As for Josh Childress, I dont see why we would need him. Honestly i do like the guy and I like the Hawks in general(because Josh Smith is my 2nd fav player) but I dont see why we need another 2 guard.
If we do end up getting Childress, we better not trade Morrison for him, and Wallace should be traded for a Big Man if we dont get lucky in the Lottery and draft Beasley.

[MattD]

As for Josh Childress, I dont see why we would need him.
I know why you dont see it, and its the same reason you seem to think ammo is the greatest player ever. DEFENSE. Its pretty important.

Im sorry, I see how people can love a player, but you have to realize their flaws too. I love JSwish, but I register his perimeter defense is just so-so, and driving in the half court set sucks. Also his ball handling is mediocre at best.


does whatever his coach tells him to do?

Do you know this for a fact? Hes got heart and is a gym rat, but I never heard Bernie praise him for his practice work ethic, I'm not saying it isnt there, but I am just wondering where it comes from.


Trading Ammo is not stupid if it benefits the team. Trading Jrich wouldn't be stupid if it benefited the team.

Your right that we cannot rule him a bust after one season, but you also cannot rule him a superstar. Lets see what hes got next season, unless it really makes sense to dish him.


Personally, I dont think he will be a big impact next year, weve got too many wings all who deserve the pt, and Ammo is too inconsistent to take up a big role. We will see.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Meh, I'm not liking Brown so far. Of course he's better than Vincent, but I think we could have found someone better (like me).

[ammofan]

well actually...I dont think Adam is the "greatest player ever". That would be our owner, Mr. Jordan. And yes I do see flaws in Adam's game:

1. Yes he does need to improve on defense, but so does J-Rich, Carmelo Anthony, and alot of other players in the NBA.
2. He does need to improve on ballhandling, BUT players similar to him ala Peja Stojakavic and Dirk Nowitzki dont have the awesome handles either...
3. Stength: He is 6'8" tall and only weighs....220? To keep from getting to banged around he needs to add more upper body strength.
4. Quickness: He did get hurt on a Luke Walton pump fake, but that was a freaky 1 in a million injury. He needs to get quicker on defense mainly. Being able to jump up really quick to block a shot or stick his hand at a ball to attempt to et a steal and start a fast break.


and I said that he will do anything a coach tells him to do because I am assuming that he would know better than to ignore a coach because his dad was a community college coach and i just dont think he would try to do the opposite or not try what the coach told him to do.
For example: I cant remember who told him this but I remeber reading that either management or an assistant coach or something told him to gain muscle weight over the 2007 summer. He did. He gained around 15-20 pounds of muscle and you could tell that in the preseason.


and, I KNOW he is not a superstar. Yea I did make a Morrison mix for Youtube with Lupe Fiasco's "Superstar" and called him a Superstar through out but thats justa video...lol...He was a Superstar in college though ;)

Lastly I know that he probably wont start, but we dont know if he will be inconstent as you said. He could end up being our most reliable scorer.. We will see....

[ammofan]

Meh, I'm not liking Brown so far. Of course he's better than Vincent, but I think we could have found someone better (like me).

I wasnt thrilled with the hire either. I woulv'e rather had D'Antoni if he was available when we hired Brown. I would've prefered Rick Carlisle too....

[MattD]

Meh, I'm not liking Brown so far. Of course he's better than Vincent, but I think we could have found someone better (like me).

how can you say this. First off, this was another assistant coaches assertions. It really means nothing to larry brown. All weve heard him say is hes going to make the players work hard to improve as much as possible, hes going to grow the franchise and go out on top. I love the hire right now. If he does crazy stuff during the season, then I may start to get out the haterade

[dvdbumpus]

I wasnt thrilled with the hire either. I woulv'e rather had D'Antoni if he was available when we hired Brown. I would've prefered Rick Carlisle too....

We woulda never paid 6 million a year for D'antoni and Carlisle wanted a better team than what we had to offer.

The only way I would want Childress is if he came in as a role player and we didn't give up much. J-swish and Crash are far and away better starters than him, and Adam is a capable scorer off the bench, as is Matt. I would rather trade the talent we have for a capable big man. I don't want and we don't need another wing player.....we don't need to be the Hawks part II ala Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, Josh Childress, Shelden Williams, and the huge glut of talented wing players acquired.

If we were to go after a restricted FA, why not go after a player like Luol Deng, who had a down year but is higher ceiling? They're going through a coaching change and the Bulls don't seem to want to pay him....he's also a Dukie.

Can we go after Patrick O'Bryant as well?

[spectre]

As for Josh Childress, I dont see why we would need him. Honestly i do like the guy and I like the Hawks in general(because Josh Smith is my 2nd fav player) but I dont see why we need another 2 guard.

We only have 2 shooting guards and one PG. Of the two shooting guards neither is above average (I'd argue both are slightly below average) on defense. Tho Childress isn't my first choice we could definitely use his D and I'd prefer someone who could cover spot PG minutes (which he might can...dunno).

Crash is NOT a 2. Ammo is NOT a 2. Swish is just a borderline 2 (think he'd be better as a 3). You have to have some semblance of handles to play the off guard spot, esp. since no one else other than Felts can bring the ball up under pressure.

All that being said, I imagine Childress will have his choice of teams at the MLE...so I'd presume our odds aren't the greatest in getting him.

[dav7z]

The more i think about Childeress the more i like it . He can play the type of defence we need at the two. Swish could play the three. Dudley could be a solid back up to Swish.
Morrison with upside and a favorable contract plus a second round pick being Atlanta has big contracts to get signed. Money should work. After the trade we could give Childress a new contract or match any offers.
Then we offer Wallace and Harrington and a 2009 first for Brand. On a sign and trade . Im sure Brand would love to get away from the Clippers. Megette is going to be gone so Wallace should be a good fit thair.
We just draft a very nice combo guard Westbrook to back up Felton and mabe even Childress. Carroll and Dudley shuld be able to be key in back up roles hear.
May if ever healthy and Nazz can back up the four and five . Hollins all so can be a insurance policy in case of a big getting injeryed.
1. Felton, Westbrook
2.Childress, Carroll
3. J Rich, Dudley
4. Brand , May, Davidson
5. Okafor, Nazz, Hollins
Of corse we would want to fill the roster with small contracts thet fit.
Gerold Green fits hear as a two three combo , along with a vetran four five combo.And finish up with a cheap young point , Dee Brown
Brand is a beast on the boards can score and is a defencive stoper. A legit low post threat. Childress is a nice defencive two who can hit the open shot.
Westbrook would and could push Felton and Childress for a starting spot.
With Brand ,Okafor could contrate on put backs and boards whitch is a big weak spot for us.
I know we would be giving up a lot for Brand . But a true allstar is worth it.

This team could compeat for the top spot in the east?
Your thoughts and no i don't hate Morrison.

[chabber]

I like both of those moves Dav7z. They aren't too far out there as far real possibilities and they fill two of our biggest needs in a low post scorer and wing defender. If those deals were on the table for me I'd pull the trigger asap.

Whether or not that team could get us close to the top I'm not so sure. We'd still be lacking a consistent 3rd scoring option IMO. However if Felton takes a leap next year under Larry Brown that could be less of an issue if he plays more efficiently and gets others involved. Like last year he would still be the key to that team.

[spectre]

1. Felton, Westbrook
2.Childress, Carroll
3. J Rich, Dudley
4. Brand , May, Davidson
5. Okafor, Nazz, Hollins

I would absolutely love this lineup!

Maybe pick up a CJ Watson type outta the D League (or him if GSW let's him walk) and maybe an MLE big and I see that group making some serious noise.

[chabber]

I also liked the Westbrook pick too btw. Add a possible MLE pickup or small signing if possible like spectre said and we could improve our bench which is another weakness. We need an energy guy off the bench and someone who can provide a scoring punch. The only guy I see right now who could provide some of that is Dudley and Carroll but they need to be more consistant.

Last season after we cut Knight I was wanting us to sign Pargo but obviously we passed and then when the Spurs started shopping Udrih I wanted us to make a move for him. Both of those guys would have been huge improvements over McMinus and they are FA again this season. Sure, now chances are they'd want to stay with their current teams since both seem to be in more stable situations than before but we could possibly make a move towards one of them or backup big. Powe, Bass and Barnes would be some of the other other guys I'd take looks at. Maybe even a guy like D.J. Strawberry to a lesser extent.

Felton/Westbrook
Childress/Carroll
J Swish/Dudley
Brand/333 lbs. of goo with broken knees
Okafor/Nazz

Plus one of Powe, Pargo, Bass, Udrih, Barnes. Probably won't get any of those guys but ya never know.

[ammofan]

The more i think about Childeress the more i like it . He can play the type of defence we need at the two. Swish could play the three. Dudley could be a solid back up to Swish.
Morrison with upside and a favorable contract plus a second round pick being Atlanta has big contracts to get signed. Money should work. After the trade we could give Childress a new contract or match any offers.
Then we offer Wallace and Harrington and a 2009 first for Brand. On a sign and trade . Im sure Brand would love to get away from the Clippers. Megette is going to be gone so Wallace should be a good fit thair.
We just draft a very nice combo guard Westbrook to back up Felton and mabe even Childress. Carroll and Dudley shuld be able to be key in back up roles hear.
May if ever healthy and Nazz can back up the four and five . Hollins all so can be a insurance policy in case of a big getting injeryed.
1. Felton, Westbrook
2.Childress, Carroll
3. J Rich, Dudley
4. Brand , May, Davidson
5. Okafor, Nazz, Hollins
Of corse we would want to fill the roster with small contracts thet fit.
Gerold Green fits hear as a two three combo , along with a vetran four five combo.And finish up with a cheap young point , Dee Brown
Brand is a beast on the boards can score and is a defencive stoper. A legit low post threat. Childress is a nice defencive two who can hit the open shot.
Westbrook would and could push Felton and Childress for a starting spot.
With Brand ,Okafor could contrate on put backs and boards whitch is a big weak spot for us.
I know we would be giving up a lot for Brand . But a true allstar is worth it.

This team could compeat for the top spot in the east?
Your thoughts and no i don't hate Morrison.

I like that lineup but i dont think Childress is worth Morrison and all that. I do like Childress though.....

[dav7z]

Its about team need not about Morrison , Childress is a much better wing defender Morrison is a scorer with less defence. With Rich , Brand and Okafor our need for a scorer is not as big. Defence is more of a concern.

[mrtarheel]

That lineup would be playoffs for sure. DJ Strawberry would be a good pick up because he could also play sg also with his size. He would learn under LB also and could be a late bloommer into the league. He played well when he got his chances in Phoenix. What if LB could get us a experienced Kevin Love for cheap (LaFrenze)

[BobCatsFanInTx]

I also liked the Westbrook pick too btw. Add a possible MLE pickup or small signing if possible like spectre said and we could improve our bench which is another weakness. We need an energy guy off the bench and someone who can provide a scoring punch. The only guy I see right now who could provide some of that is Dudley and Carroll but they need to be more consistant.

Last season after we cut Knight I was wanting us to sign Pargo but obviously we passed and then when the Spurs started shopping Udrih I wanted us to make a move for him. Both of those guys would have been huge improvements over McMinus and they are FA again this season. Sure, now chances are they'd want to stay with their current teams since both seem to be in more stable situations than before but we could possibly make a move towards one of them or backup big. Powe, Bass and Barnes would be some of the other other guys I'd take looks at. Maybe even a guy like D.J. Strawberry to a lesser extent.

Felton/Westbrook
Childress/Carroll
J Swish/Dudley
Brand/333 lbs. of goo with broken knees
Okafor/Nazz

Plus one of Powe, Pargo, Bass, Udrih, Barnes. Probably won't get any of those guys but ya never know.Brand/333 lbs. of goo with broken knees, and not as good a fit as another player with injury issues named Jermaine O'Neal.