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dav7z
05-28-2008, 01:27 PM
What players do you feel thet are most likely to be traded if any . Your thoughts
First i feel like our whole team is expendable for the right trade.
But hears the players i feel thet are most likely to go and what i think thair value is
1. I feel Morrison is the first one likely to go . Because our over abundance of wings. Morrison all so limited on defence . Which it will make it hard for him to fit in a Larry Brown system. His value is very low and i think we take a hit when we move him . More than likely him and a second round pick to get a decent player .WHO? No real trade ideas for him
2 May i feel like hes in truble to because health reasons too and a very bad work ethic . For those two reasons that might make him harder to move than Morrison. No one else might not want him . All so playing P/F makes him less likely than Ammo.
3. Dudley a glue guy on a rookie contract makes for a good trade bait. I think he could contribute on a lot of teams for a cheap price . Good trade bait.
4. Wallace great contract good player 20ppg can play defence . Could be the key to geting a quility four . Key hear is to not give him away.
5. Okafor if his money standerds are to high look to see a sign and trade for who?
6 Carroll, Nazz , Not great contracts harder to move but possable. Neither contract is that bad and both are serviceable.
7. Rich our go to guy with a high contract . I don't see us moving him
8. Davidson and Hollins will be our cheap 14th and 15th players
9. No one will take Harrington and we wont resign him or Anderson or Boinkins . Draft picks and vetran mimium players will fill those roles.
Who do you feel is gone next year and WHY. thoughts

ohara831
05-28-2008, 03:07 PM
If we land someone like Gordon or Westbrook at #9, I would bet Crash is likeliest to go, and that being for a PF. If we go Big with #9, then packaging #38 with Ammo/May to move up would be my guess. I dont see Okafor being moved in a S&T.

ammofan
05-28-2008, 04:07 PM
Yeah i would see Wallace going first. Too injury prone, we have to be able to count on him to play every night

BIGCatBobcat
05-28-2008, 08:20 PM
Read my lips: NO NEW TRADES. Unless we can get rid of May. That would be the only trade I'd go for. I don't think there is anything out there on the table that will make us better. I want to see how this current group of guys, cut the fat in May and Harrington, add 2 draft picks(has anyone officially decided whether or not we actually have 2nd rounder?) and maybe a good FA back up, I want this team to get coached up and see what they've got. What was our problem last year? Coaching...What has changed for the up coming year? We got a HOF coach....leave the trades alone.

x2pacalypse
05-28-2008, 08:42 PM
from our roster in order i think MOST likely would be

ammo, hammer, crash

the reason crash is 3rd is because i just dont see management tweaking our starting roster too much and i think they would like to see what LB can do with the lineup before making any drastic changes, however anything is up for grabs halfway through next season

amour217
05-28-2008, 09:52 PM
From RealGM: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/52733/20080528/sixers_looking_to_draft_a_sharpshooter/

I wonder if we could convince them to take on Morrison or Carroll? Just a thought...I mean, I don't know what they can offer us...

MattD
05-28-2008, 10:09 PM
From RealGM: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/52733/20080528/sixers_looking_to_draft_a_sharpshooter/

I wonder if we could convince them to take on Morrison or Carroll? Just a thought...I mean, I don't know what they can offer us...

S&T rights to Iggy. Send 9+MC for sign and trade Iggy. Trade GW for Boozer (I think a deal for Brand is much more difficult) Run Felton Iggy Jrich Boozer Okafor.

Oh I need to remind myself not to get me and Bigslam so excited.

I think if I were a GM I would live on the tradechecker looking at new deals every hour.

but Im dreaming. PHILA wouldnt accept that unless Iggy decides he wont resign with them or doesnt want too, and we arent bold enough to get boozer or brand.

TheBeagle
05-28-2008, 11:14 PM
Read my lips: NO NEW TRADES. Unless we can get rid of May. That would be the only trade I'd go for. I don't think there is anything out there on the table that will make us better. I want to see how this current group of guys, cut the fat in May and Harrington, add 2 draft picks(has anyone officially decided whether or not we actually have 2nd rounder?) and maybe a good FA back up, I want this team to get coached up and see what they've got. What was our problem last year? Coaching...What has changed for the up coming year? We got a HOF coach....leave the trades alone.
Ah, the voice of reason in a chaotic world. I just don't think there's anybody on this team that we could trade to get a high impact 4 of Brand or Boozer's quality (which is our most desperate need) without gutting the roster so that we'll have new needs, and have to rely on rookies who are habitually unreliable. I'd like to see what Coach could do with our core guys, too.

I'd actually be surprised if something wasn't done, but I just hope we don't overvalue somebody's talent and get hosed in a deal...

dav7z
05-29-2008, 08:39 AM
I don't know what to expect . But my guess is package Ammo and our second for either a higher draft pick or a P/F . Frye , Charlie V.
I feel like May is in the same position. The only reason i don't he's first on the trade list is because he's a P/F
Wallace only because he could help us get a good P/F . Personally i hope we keep him around another year . But if trading him fills big holes and makes the team better im all for it.

I've been thinking Dudley and our 2nd [2010 ]for for Charlie V might be a good move. They get a great hustle guy and a 2010 second for a seldom used P/F.
But would he be a Lary Brown type player'.

At nine we take the best player left . Prefer a combo guard. And with or second we take a big.
Felton, Westbrook
Rich, Carroll
Wallace, Morrison,
Crarlie .V. May , Davidson
Okafor, Nazz, Hollins
Our 2nd round pick we add the best player left. Whitch ever 1st rounder who slides down to us. Thoughts

spectre
05-29-2008, 10:05 AM
Per the Blazer fans on RealGM they seem very amenable to swapping picks...we'd get Frye & Jack and they get Ammo. They'd probably do it for May or any filler.

We'd at least have a semblance of a starter at the 4 in Frye as well as a backup PG plus the 13th without losing any core player.

Dead_Real
05-29-2008, 11:06 AM
Per the Blazer fans on RealGM they seem very amenable to swapping picks...we'd get Frye & Jack and they get Ammo. They'd probably do it for May or any filler.

We'd at least have a semblance of a starter at the 4 in Frye as well as a backup PG plus the 13th without losing any core player.
Spectre would you go big still at 13 or just take the Best guard on the board if we lost Ammo? I think I'd take a chance on Donte Greene or Batum if we gave up Morrison.

spectre
05-29-2008, 12:16 PM
Heh, I pretty much always want to swing for the fences, so definitely BPA. I think I watched Greene one time and it appeared he really loved that outside shot. Of course he's young and would take time to develop, but if we decide he has mega potential then pull the trigger for sure.

Wonder if Jordan could slip to 13th? Maybe he'd have the most potential?

dvdbumpus
05-29-2008, 12:50 PM
I've been watching video and checking things out, and I liked Anthony Randolph out of LSU as well as Darrell Arthur. Both are bigs and have a high ceiling...

With one of the top 5 picks supposedly having a draft guarantee for Deandre Jordan, and Mayo being hyped up...

I'd love to grab Eric Gordon, as well as either one of those bigs if we did happen to nab the 13th pick, because it'd be likely that one of those two are still there.

Muttley
05-29-2008, 01:07 PM
Some mocks even have Love around at #13. I'm not so sure, but I bet we could get almost as good a prospect at 13 as we could at 9. If we traded for Jack/Frye, then we'd be a bit freer in our choice at 13. Young big man prospects are probably the most enticing, and if we could get Jordan we might have the luxury of giving him time to develop while Oak/Frye/Nazr hold the 4 and 5 spots down.

I'd be very interested in that Portland deal. Doesn't seem like we're giving up a whole lot (especially if we send May). Any chance that any those Blazer fans from RealGM have names like "NCSUNate86" or "KU KevP"?

Dead_Real
05-29-2008, 01:55 PM
Heh, I pretty much always want to swing for the fences, so definitely BPA. I think I watched Greene one time and it appeared he really loved that outside shot. Of course he's young and would take time to develop, but if we decide he has mega potential then pull the trigger for sure.

Wonder if Jordan could slip to 13th? Maybe he'd have the most potential?
Greene needs to bulk up I think it would make him a better overall player the skill is there though I think his late season play hurt his stock a little like Eric Gordons. On the subject of DeAndre Jordan though I saw that he has a top 5 promise from a team in the lottery this year. I kind of find that hard to believe but you never know anything can happen I'm hearing Kevin McHale wants Kevin Love bad.

Saw the video of Anthony Randolph on youtube a few minutes ago I swear he looks exactly like Brandon Wright coming out of UNC but as far as skills he looks like a faster Bosh with the handles of Odom If he falls in our laps I'd keep the 9th pick and take him.

MattD
05-29-2008, 05:15 PM
ok never mind, I thought you were talking about Danny Greene, wooo I was nervous there.

Donte Greene is a great guy to develop. I like his game. Nothing like a 6'10 guy with skill. Theyre hard to stop.

spectre
05-29-2008, 08:56 PM
Some mocks even have Love around at #13. I'm not so sure, but I bet we could get almost as good a prospect at 13 as we could at 9. If we traded for Jack/Frye, then we'd be a bit freer in our choice at 13. Young big man prospects are probably the most enticing, and if we could get Jordan we might have the luxury of giving him time to develop while Oak/Frye/Nazr hold the 4 and 5 spots down.

I'd be very interested in that Portland deal. Doesn't seem like we're giving up a whole lot (especially if we send May). Any chance that any those Blazer fans from RealGM have names like "NCSUNate86" or "KU KevP"?

Heh, nah, not any like those!

Thing is, used to be the Raptors were the unquestioned homers on RealGM...probably because there's just more of them. Here lately though, the Blazers have really been giving them a run for their money (things like "I wouldn't trade Oden for Lebron" type stuff).

They're REALLY down on those two, and most especially Jack. Almost all their fans seem almost eager to do that deal...so much so that it has me worrying that we might actually be overpaying.

dnbman
06-01-2008, 02:51 PM
Spectre, I'd do that Portland trade pretty easily, especially if it just cost us Morrison.

In all likelihood, Jack's not going to be that much of a step down from most of the pgs available, at least in terms of playmaking abilities. I'm not convinced Frye is an NBA starter, but considering how thin we are, I'd love to have him. As most people have said, 9 to 13 may historically show a big drop, but right now there seems to be little. Plus, if we take a player like Arthur, I feel like we'd be reaching less than if we picked him 9th. Morrison, may be a good player, but I think he becomes a slightly craftier version of Kyle Korver.

This is my overall take on trades this summer: We don't trade Felton, Wallace, Okafor, or Richardson unless we're getting a clear starting caliber player, one that will make vital contributions on a nightly basis. If we're just getting a placeholder of a starter, then there's not much to doing the trade unless we decide we're still in serious building mode.

Carroll and Dudley can go if the right pieces are there. They're good character/glue guys who have more value than their statistics represent. I don't want to toss them around as filler, but I wouldn't hesitate to trade them if the right pieces came along. Because of his upside, Davidson almost fits in this category, but not quite. He's still a project.

I guess the only reason that I said this is because I've seen so many trades suggested where we trade a key player and get only parts in return. Unless we get a top 3-4 pick and use it wisely, I don't see anyone in this draft that is worth one of our key players.

A trade like this Portland trade, though, is exactly what we should be looking for: we move pieces that haven't made big contributions for pieces that we really need. If none pan out, then we're not hurting too much because the cost was little. I'll gladly trade Morrison's upside for a backup pg who can likely make nightly contributions.