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tray2
06-26-2008, 08:26 PM
goodnight :mad:

countryboi
06-26-2008, 08:28 PM
its not a bad pick he can come in and push felton right now

tray2
06-26-2008, 08:29 PM
its not a bad pick he can come in and push felton right now

Like what the Bobcats need is for someone to "push felton right away"

What a retarded freaking pick.

Seriously, if the Bobcats wind up having to take "ROBIN" Lopez at 20, Michael Jordan is the DUMBEST EXECUTIVE EVER.

dvdbumpus
06-26-2008, 08:31 PM
Unfreaking believable. Why not Jerryd Bayless?

BobCatsFanInTx
06-26-2008, 08:33 PM
The pick is only good if we can get a solid big at the number twenty position or if we can make a trade that would bring us a quality big. If not this will be another in a long line of missteps.

Wanderlai
06-26-2008, 08:34 PM
Sad, sad, sad. Another year, another crappy draft. Well I guess Felton is done in Charlotte. LB will have Augustine and Hibbert. Whip de freakin do!

countryboi
06-26-2008, 08:44 PM
man i wanted jerryd bayless....but d.j. is not a bum...he was the only pure point left in the draft and can play....shit if anything it will at least make felton play better cause he has someone who could put his ass on the bench

BobCatsFanInTx
06-26-2008, 08:46 PM
Sad, sad, sad. Another year, another crappy draft. Well I guess Felton is done in Charlotte. LB will have Augustine and Hibbert. Whip de freakin do!

Wanderlai, what makes you think that Felton won't remain on the team? This just makes Felton work harder for minutes and therefore makes the pg position one of strength. Hibbert is alright with me. As of now we have no true Center and Hibbert is the closest to that we can get at number twenty. Hibbert isn't going to be a star but he should be a solid addition if he is added to our team.

Alex
06-26-2008, 08:47 PM
this is retarded, what a stupid pick...

I can't wait until we take the freakin stiff from Georgetown to complete another C+ draft

BOOOOORRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIING

Wanderlai
06-26-2008, 08:55 PM
Wanderlai, what makes you think that Felton won't remain on the team? This just makes Felton work harder for minutes and therefore makes the pg position one of strength. Hibbert is alright with me. As of now we have no true Center and Hibbert is the closest to that we can get at number twenty. Hibbert isn't going to be a star but he should be a solid addition if he is added to our team.

LB wants someone to run his offense and he must not think Felton can do it by drafting Augustine. I see, by mid season, Augustine running the offense with Felton playing combo gaurd again. This was supposed to be the year he would be a fulltime PG. Its really sad, Felton hasnt gotten a fair shake since he has been in Charlotte. I don't think Augustine is a bum, he can play but he isnt a back up PG.

davcbow
06-26-2008, 08:57 PM
To all the guys complaining about the pick, who would yall have picked?

dvdbumpus
06-26-2008, 08:58 PM
Well, I'm rethinking it and I think it's potentially good. This is the shape up or shape out year for Felton. We also probably weren't sold on any bigs at the 9. SO, we're going to probably grab a big at 20.

PG: Felton/Augustin
SG: J-rich/Matt
SF: Crash/Adam
PF: Okafor or draft
C: Draft or Okafor

Hibbert, Koufos, Arthur, Speights, Lopez, Jordan, Mcgee.....all possibly available there.

Slam
06-26-2008, 09:01 PM
Great pick. If we want to challenge for the playoffs and start making some noise in the NBA next season, we need smart, hard working players. DJ is a smart, hard working player.

Teamed with Felts, we have a fantastic PG rotation.

For all of you that hate the pick - did you want Earl freaking Boykins backing Felts again this year?

I love the pick.


(If LB has a brain fart and starts playing Felts at the 2 then I'll have to re-think things!!)

spectre
06-26-2008, 09:01 PM
I feel sure DJ will be better than Bayless from a PG standpoint, but I'll admit I don't know a lot about the latter. I'd have preferred Westbrook for the defense he would bring but there were questions about him as well. With DJ I think we'll suffer defensively and he can only really play one position, but he will be able to run the offense.

Considering the bigs that'll be available at 20 I don't see how we can bash this pick. We went in wanting to get a big and a small and that looks like what we're coming out with.

Not my favorite by a long shot...but that's how the cards fell. This is going to suck though that we probably got yet another defensive liability along the perimeter.

amour217
06-26-2008, 09:02 PM
who here thinks a possibly angry Brook Lopez will cause some major havoc at the get-go? lol he didn't look happy at all...neither did Bayless when he was finally picked. We'll see, I guess

spectre
06-26-2008, 09:03 PM
Great pick. If we want to challenge for the playoffs and start making some noise in the NBA next season, we need smart, hard working players. DJ is a smart, hard working player.

Teamed with Felts, we have a fantastic PG rotation.

For all of you that hate the pick - did you want Earl freaking Boykins backing Felts again this year?

I love the pick.


(If LB has a brain fart and starts playing Felts at the 2 then I'll have to re-think things!!)

That's the thing; if LB doesn't play Felts at the 2 (like he said he wouldn't) then that means our 9th pick will be lucky to get 15 mpg. Basically it became a "depth" selection.

But again, there wasn't a lot of choices.

dvdbumpus
06-26-2008, 09:06 PM
who here thinks a possibly angry Brook Lopez will cause some major havoc at the get-go? lol he didn't look happy at all...neither did Bayless when he was finally picked. We'll see, I guess

I agree. They looked pissed. That was after he was crying of course *cough*pansy*cough*.



I like the pick, I'm just unsure of Augustin. Hopefully he'll be a great compliment like Billups/Stuckey or Baron Davis/Monta Ellis. Maybe Nash/Barabosa?

If it works out 3/4 as well as those mentioned, I'd be happy. We do need to ensure that our talent at the PG position is stocked and I certainly didn't like any FA points, or having Boykins, Mcinnis, or an over the hill Derek Anderson. Let's hope he plays unlike a rookie and keeps his composure. He is a big talent that plays larger than his size, though.


And he is coachable. When his coach asked him to score more he did. He's got a good shot and 3 pt shot.

amour217
06-26-2008, 09:08 PM
Ajinca with the 20th pick, maybe?

Slam
06-26-2008, 09:08 PM
That's the thing; if LB doesn't play Felts at the 2 (like he said he wouldn't) then that means our 9th pick will be lucky to get 15 mpg. Basically it became a "depth" selection.

But again, there wasn't a lot of choices.
Great playoff teams have depth. We only had one PG on the roster and the FA PG market was crap.

As far as the PG's go, I would have wanted Westbrook 1st and DJ 2nd. I only wanted Bayless if we could trade him to the Heat for Beasley. I don't think Bayless is a true PG and isn't a good defender.

tray2
06-26-2008, 09:09 PM
ROY HIBBERT GONE!!!!
ARDEQR;LERHJD ;ADFSJFDA;J!!!!!


QER5KLUJQPERWHF;LQWHJTD;K1JEWR!!!!!!:mad:

Wanderlai
06-26-2008, 09:09 PM
Ha, Ha so Bird ends up with Bayless and Hibbert. I guess Charlotte can suck on it.

tray2
06-26-2008, 09:09 PM
Great playoff teams have depth. We only had one PG on the roster and the FA PG market was crap.

As far as the PG's go, I would have wanted Westbrook 1st and DJ 2nd. I only wanted Bayless if we could trade him to the Heat for Beasley. I don't think Bayless is a true PG and isn't a good defender.

THE FACT THAT HIBBERT IS GONE PROVES HOW F#$!TR@ RETARDED THAT AUGUSTIN PICK WAS!:mad:

amour217
06-26-2008, 09:10 PM
While he isn't flashy, I wonder what it will take to pry Foster away from the Pacers? He's a big guy who's a veteran and rebounds really well, which was a weakness of our front line last season. Not totally ideal, I know, but just a thought

tray2
06-26-2008, 09:10 PM
Ha, Ha so Bird ends up with Bayless and Hibbert. I guess Charlotte can suck on it.

They should.

Fire Jordan's ignorant *$$

kidk612
06-26-2008, 09:11 PM
If we want to compete for the playoffs, we need strong play from our starting PG (felton) and our backup. If DJ can come in as a rookie and be a respectable backup for 15-20 minutes a game, that'd be fine with me. I've heard some concern he might never be more than a backup, but he should be able to push felton and be a reliable backup right now. Maybe down the line he proves himself as a starter and felton thrives as combo guard off bench, or we move him, whatever. Maybe not. But if we want playoffs this year, I think DJ is a better fit at 9 than Bayless. Maybe we'll regret it down the line but who knows.

tray2
06-26-2008, 09:12 PM
To all the guys complaining about the pick, who would yall have picked?

A big man. You could have gotten a back up PG at 20 or 38.

Now we have to settle for a PIECE OF CRAP STARING CENTER or PF!

spectre
06-26-2008, 09:13 PM
Great playoff teams have depth. We only had one PG on the roster and the FA PG market was crap.

As far as the PG's go, I would have wanted Westbrook 1st and DJ 2nd. I only wanted Bayless if we could trade him to the Heat for Beasley. I don't think Bayless is a true PG and isn't a good defender.

True, but most great playoff teams have been in existence for more than (going on) 5 years. Getting a multi talented player would have been more desirable in our situation.

Especially a defensive addition. What was below average didn't get any better.

amour217
06-26-2008, 09:14 PM
if we get stuck with DeAndre Jordan, I won't be very happy

tray2
06-26-2008, 09:15 PM
man i wanted jerryd bayless....but d.j. is not a bum...he was the only pure point left in the draft and can play....shit if anything it will at least make felton play better cause he has someone who could put his ass on the bench

Derrick Rose made Augustin his b**** in the NCAA tournament because he was so much bigger and stronger. Now Augustin has to go up against bigger and stronger guards on a nightly base.

Gee, I really look forward to that...not.:mad:

tray2
06-26-2008, 09:16 PM
Man, we better not take KOUFOS after the Primo Brezec experience. :mad::mad::mad:

CMc$
06-26-2008, 09:16 PM
DJ was my boy from the get go. He'll be better than Westbrook. He's proven more. He was a consensus all american. look at the body of work and not just draft hype.

davcbow
06-26-2008, 09:19 PM
That's the thing; if LB doesn't play Felts at the 2 (like he said he wouldn't) then that means our 9th pick will be lucky to get 15 mpg. Basically it became a "depth" selection.

But again, there wasn't a lot of choices.

I agree; LB must be happier with the bigs than he was with the gaurds so they felt it a better choise to go with Augustin to add depth at the point. It also adds depth to the #2 spot so I feel it was a good move also. I would have liked to have gotten Lopez at center.

Does anyone think it may be Jordon that dont trust or like Felts or what ever the problem is and not the coaches?

tray2
06-26-2008, 09:19 PM
Wanderlai, what makes you think that Felton won't remain on the team? This just makes Felton work harder for minutes and therefore makes the pg position one of strength. Hibbert is alright with me. As of now we have no true Center and Hibbert is the closest to that we can get at number twenty. Hibbert isn't going to be a star but he should be a solid addition if he is added to our team.

You clearly don't get it.

WHY IN THE H*** WOULD FELTON NEED TO WORK HARDER FOR MINUTES???

The Bobcats needed a BIG MAN, not a freaking LESSON for Felton!

Wanderlai
06-26-2008, 09:20 PM
I guess the Cats may go with Arthur.

Slam
06-26-2008, 09:24 PM
I guess the Cats may go with Arthur.

I guess Brown may go with the Kansas kid!!

DirtyU11
06-26-2008, 09:25 PM
We have to go with Koufos here or are draft is horrible

timang
06-26-2008, 09:31 PM
this hurts (coming from a fans perspective). i thought this draft is blast, but it's been relatively safe so far.

Tully
06-26-2008, 09:32 PM
Ajinca over Darnell Arthur and Koufos is just DUMB

davcbow
06-26-2008, 09:32 PM
Alexis Ajinca - who? but he has pro experience in europe. :o

DirtyU11
06-26-2008, 09:34 PM
Ajinca over Darnell Arthur and Koufos is just DUMB

agreed he will probably stay over in France or be ryan hollins V.2 we should have take either of those two over Ajinca.

Wanderlai
06-26-2008, 09:34 PM
I'm surprised they didnt select Arthur for the PF slot. I think Ajinca will be good in time and from what I'd heard didnt he out perform the guys he worked out against?

amour217
06-26-2008, 09:37 PM
from the looks of things, this team is banking WAY too much on Sean May coming back healthy at PF. All jokes about him aside, if he comes back healthy and contributes, good for him, we dodged a bullet....but if he can't recover or he can't regain a hint of his skill, then we're screwed

Alex
06-26-2008, 09:41 PM
I still can't believe we didn't draft a 7 foot 20 and 10 center when he was basically on our plate. WE ARE F*CKING RETARDED!!

davcbow
06-26-2008, 09:44 PM
with the 2 draft picks so far and the 38th pick to go and May and Morrison both come back able to contribute, it will be like 5 new guys on the team. Does anyone see a possible trade of any kind? :cool:

amour217
06-26-2008, 09:44 PM
with the 2 draft picks so far and the 38th pick to go and May and Morrison both come back able to contribute, it will be like 5 new guys on the team. Does anyone see a possible trade of any kind? :cool:

there better be a trade or else I'm a little confused by this team

Slam
06-26-2008, 09:46 PM
I still can't believe we didn't draft a 7 foot 20 and 10 center when he was basically on our plate. WE ARE F*CKING RETARDED!!

Who is the 7 foot 20 and 10 center we passed on?

tray2
06-26-2008, 09:53 PM
there better be a trade or else I'm a little confused by this team

Trade? No one wants any of this crap on our roster. The only thing they would want is Felton. No one wants Wallace's contract, and they definitely don't want that piece of crap center that Jordan just drafted.

amour217
06-26-2008, 09:55 PM
Trade? No one wants any of this crap on our roster. The only thing they would want is Felton. No one wants Wallace's contract, and they definitely don't want that piece of crap center that Jordan just drafted.

man quit spazzing. Maybe we could trade you for the old Heaven's Gate cult website

BobCatsFanInTx
06-26-2008, 10:10 PM
You clearly don't get it.

WHY IN THE H*** WOULD FELTON NEED TO WORK HARDER FOR MINUTES???

The Bobcats needed a BIG MAN, not a freaking LESSON for Felton!I totally disagree, Felton has not shown enough in games at the pg spot to merit a pass as starter. Felton does need another solid pg on the team to compete with thus lifting his game. I am a UNC fan but I do not use that as a reason to assume Felton should be handed the job of starter on a silver plater. May the best pg win the starters minutes and the back up vie for top sixth man.

tray2
06-26-2008, 10:12 PM
I totally disagree, Felton has not shown enough in games at the pg spot to merit a pass as starter. Felton does need another solid pg on the team to compete with thus lifting his game. I am a UNC fan but I do not use that as a reason to assume Felton should be handed the job of starter on a silver plater. May the best pg win the starters minutes and the back up vie for top sixth man.

Might matter if a big man was not our most pressing issue.

They could have gotten a PG at 20 or 38. Clearly they couldn't have gotten a BIG MAN at 20 or 38, unless you haven't noticed.

Alex
06-26-2008, 10:21 PM
Who is the 7 foot 20 and 10 center we passed on?

Brook Lopez

We will regret not taking this guy in the years to come, just watch. I can't believe we drafted a back-up PG when we CLEARLY need a C that can score. Whatever, I'm done with Bobcats stuff until the season starts, this is ridiculous.

davcbow
06-26-2008, 10:22 PM
Might matter if a big man was not our most pressing issue.

They could have gotten a PG at 20 or 38. Clearly they couldn't have gotten a BIG MAN at 20 or 38, unless you haven't noticed.

Maybe there is a method behind their madness. Who knows but maybe...

BobCatsFanInTx
06-26-2008, 10:24 PM
Might matter if a big man was not our most pressing issue.

They could have gotten a PG at 20 or 38. Clearly they couldn't have gotten a BIG MAN at 20 or 38, unless you haven't noticed.No we actually had some better choices at the five than what we took. Do I agree with you on picking a quality big first? Yes I do!! With that said we didn't so the next best bet was Koufos at twenty whether you want to hate on him or not. He is no Brezec. There aren't many players that are as big a bust as he was. Sure there is a chance he would be a bust but I say Ajinca is a much more likely bust than Koufos. Koufos if nothing else has solid size and could have clogged the lanes for us. Being able to move Okafor to the four should he stay with us would be invaluable. Okafor is not a five. As it stands Okafor will remain at the five and that is not where he should be. Maybe LB will get better play from all the players than the previous hacks we have had at coach have. I predict this team will be much more fundamentally sound than in the past.

Alex
06-26-2008, 10:27 PM
Ajinca can't be a bust b/c nobody expects him to do anything to begin with.

Slam
06-26-2008, 10:28 PM
Brook Lopez

We will regret not taking this guy in the years to come, just watch. I can't believe we drafted a back-up PG when we CLEARLY need a C that can score. Whatever, I'm done with Bobcats stuff until the season starts, this is ridiculous.

Lopez a 20/10 guy? He couldn't average 10 boards in the NCAA going up against much, much smaller competition!!

Alex
06-26-2008, 10:33 PM
Lopez a 20/10 guy? He couldn't average 10 boards in the NCAA going up against much, much smaller competition!!

19 points and 8 rebounds is pretty damn good in a 40 minute game. D.J. is starting to grow on me a little bit now that I've calmed down a bit but I still think we could have gotten a really quality C and we missed our chance.

However, I'm really pissed about what we did at the 20th pick. That guy has no chance of making our roster in his first year. Koufos would of been a much better choice, a player that would of helped us right away.

Slam
06-26-2008, 10:37 PM
I'm guessing this spells the end of Hollins. Ajinca seems like a more offensive Hollins - right?

davcbow
06-26-2008, 10:47 PM
I'm guessing this spells the end of Hollins. Ajinca seems like a more offensive Hollins - right?

To me he looks like a very good and vastly improved Hollins....:cool:

davcbow
06-26-2008, 11:07 PM
And at 38th pick we select:

Full Name: Kyle Donovan Weaver
Position: Guard
Height/Weight: 6-6 / 201
Birthdate: February 18, 1986
High School: Beloit Memorial HS
College: Washington State

dav7z
06-26-2008, 11:30 PM
Ajinca is going to fool a lot of people . Don't mistake this was Browns pick . Brown said he was the best big man he worked out on both sides of the ball. Including Jordon . He said tonight he fell in love with the kids talent. I think hes a possable all star type unknown player. Brown all so said he has a good jump shot. I think he will contribute right away.


I can't understand why we took Augustine over Bayless.
I don't know much about our last pick at all. I can't understand why we did't take Walker hear.
Wallace and mabe Felton might be in a trade because we didn't address the power foward position at all.

EvetsMorrison15
06-26-2008, 11:47 PM
Banned. ha ha ha