Why DJ will start...

[Ghost Kat]

First off, i did back flips when Felton was drafted. As a Tarheel fan i "thought" that was the best draft ever. Three years later it's questionable.
The knock on Felton is he's more of a shooting or combo guard then a pure point. Having watch Felton in college and the NBA i know Felton is not a good shooter, Never has been. He's at his best on the fast break and pick-n-rolls. But setting up the offense isn't really what he does best. He was a forced scorer in all his NBA years because the Bobcats have never had a go to threat till J-Rich. Felton shoot 41% from the field and 28% from 3 point land. Alot of the time it seems like he's trying to bully his way onto the score board.

The common thought about DJ is he is a pass first point guard but to little for the NBA. If you have a good enough memory you will know that the Charlotte Franchises have never been shy about playing short guards. ( Mugsy, Brevin Knight, Earl Boykins ) All played many yrs in the league with some success. DJ brings more to the table at this point then Felton. He's a good passer, has good court vision and knows how to run an offensive pick -n-roll. He's a far better allround shooter then Felton. And might just be a better on court leader. DJ won the Cousy award for nations best point guard as a sophmore. He was also a finalist for the Nasmith & Wooden awards. I think Felton should start this year and maybe even next depending on how DJ's rookie year goes. But DJ is our Future and i'm looking forward to your opinions......


This is a link to the Bobcats Summer league games. If you'd like to look back and see how our draft picks played again you can watch the reply at anytime.

http://www.nba.com/summerleague2008/team/index.jsp?team=bobcats

[ammofan]

I agree with everything you said :)

[ziggy]

If Ray doesn't curb some his shoot first urges and doesn't play the way that LB wants the PG position to be played, then I could see it happening around midseason.
I'd give it about a 30% chance of something like that happening this season.

[dav7z]

Im a Carolina Felton fan and didn't like the D.J. pick at all . I wanted us to go with Bayless. With that being said i could see us leting Felton go as early as any day now.I think Charlotte drafted DJ thinking he will be the long term starter.
But i will be pulling for Felton to keep DJ on the beanch for the next ten years.
Kind of like a lot of you Morrison fans.

[Slam]

I saw some great signs from Felts to close out last season. It's easy to remember the bad things he did and the stats showed that his shooting was off, but there was an obvious improvement.

He wasn't getting himself caught too deep and stuck under the back board with his drives. He seriously limited the circus shots. He initiated the break and rewarded guys who run the court hard.

And he did all of this while playing under an idiot as a head coach.

It he didn't show that basic improvement to close out the season I would say that Dj had a good chance of bumping him by mid season, but from what I saw over the last couple of months of last season, we still have only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what Felts can bring us.

I'm looking at him for the MiP award next season.

I think he will thrive under LB - more than anyone else. He's a coaches player who plays to please and would have immense respect for LB.

[dnbman]

Agree with B.S. ^

[Ghost Kat]

As a fellow Tar Heel i couldn't dismiss Ray so quicky so i didn't want to say DJ would over take him by mid season. And i agree Felton has improved some and Larry Brown will make him better. But he will make DJ better too. Raymond since being in the NBA has had two sub par coaches who may have mis taught him on the fundamentals of NBA point guard life. DJ getting Larry Brown as his first NBA coach,plus wanting to prove he's big enough for the NBA will have more to start the season with. The two of them playing together, atleast for the first year helps DJ. There's not so much pressure for him to lead so early in his career. Plus having DJ as a back means there is no fall off in the offense. I've seen to many back ups come in and ruin the flow of the game.

[davcbow]

I think we will see everyone playing much much better this year with a real coach coaching the team, LB knows BB and he knows how to get the best out of his players, so the Felts vs DJ thing will depend on who catches on to LB's system the quickest and who gets the job done LB's way. Just my opinion...:cool:

[spectre]

Well said Slam. And that was right after the time it was reported that the team had pretty much starting ignoring the Idiot and went to playing their own way.


As a fellow Tar Heel i couldn't dismiss Ray so quicky so i didn't want to say DJ would over take him by mid season. And i agree Felton has improved some and Larry Brown will make him better. But he will make DJ better too. Raymond since being in the NBA has had two sub par coaches who may have mis taught him on the fundamentals of NBA point guard life. DJ getting Larry Brown as his first NBA coach,plus wanting to prove he's big enough for the NBA will have more to start the season with. The two of them playing together, atleast for the first year helps DJ. There's not so much pressure for him to lead so early in his career. Plus having DJ as a back means there is no fall off in the offense. I've seen to many back ups come in and ruin the flow of the game.

You don't think Felts thinks he has something to prove too? Lord, the guy's been crucified for the last couple of years for not being Chris Paul, he's been forced to play out of position...so much so that now he hears that "combo guard" crap. That's not what he is...that's what the two previous imbeciles tried to turn him in to.

Felts had Bernie and the Idiot playing him at the 2, but DJ had Barnes playing HIM at the 2 as well. I imagine both players are going to have to re-learn some things.

I think DJ is a good passer, but what exactly makes you say he's "pass first" since he demonstrated everything but that last year at Texas and in SL? In both instances he looked for his shot for the most part. Media hype? Going back to the Durant year? Felts was much more a "pass first" PG in college than DJ was.

I like DJ, but as I've said all along I think some fans are setting themselves up for disappointment. He's got a LOT of work to do. I think he'll progress and will eventually be a very good PG, but don't kid yourself on where he is now vs. where he needs to be.

BTW...you know another player on the Bobcats won the Bob Cousy award too right?

http://www.cousyaward.com/awardwinners.html

http://www.cousyaward.com/images2/05_win_biga.jpg

[GoBobs]

D.J. has a great feel for the game and never loses his poise but he won't be taking feltons spot anytime soon. Felton is already a good point gaurd, not great, but good. D.J. will have some trouble on defense.

[110oldeast]

Felton's shoot first urges are a MYTH.

When ranked with 1st and 2nd string pgs in the NBA last year, he shot at the 40th highest rate! That means that given similar time at least 39 pgs or combos in the league would put up more shots than he did. His number of shots have to do with him playing as much as he does as well as shots at the end of the clock. With a legit pick and pop option on the floor, many of these end of shot clocks will be kicks back to the pick and pop player or higher percentage shots. This idea of him being shoot first is a bunch of BS that has been repeated over and over again until folks believe it even though the facts don't back it up. It would be great if the city could get some actual basketball analysis instead of what we have had.

Last year he was 7th overall in the league in assists per game and 2nd in the East. After the All-Star break he was 5th overall in the league and 1st in the East. The only pgs who had more assists per game after the break than Felton were Paul, Nash, Williams, and Kidd. It's funny how their PFs are (West, Stoudemire, Boozer/not to mention Okur to pick and pop, and Dirk).

The Bobcats need a legit threat in the frontcourt. BUT, even without that, if the team runs the way the Summer League team did it will change the dynamic as well. That said, in the halfcourt offense, a pg needs a legit pick and pop option and/or multiple shooters on the floor to run a fluid offense. All the 4 guys who averaged above him excelled the most when they had the pick and pop option on the floor and usually multiple shooters when there offense ran the best. That is why after McInnis was cut for the final 25 games and Felton was a full-time pg he averaged 8.5 assists a game, but in the 12 games when Carroll and J-Rich were on the wings, he averaged 9.8 assists a game.

There is a FORMULA beyond just the pgs that most folks fail to notice when they start spouting off the famous cliches of playmaker and make your teammates better. Ultimately the teammates must have cohesive SKILLSETS as the pg does more to illuminate their strongpoints than actually "MAKE" them better. I have yet to see any of the pgs above as great as they are consistently bounce the ball off their teammates heads to make it go in.

[110oldeast]

PS: Felton also won the Cousy award and if you read his scouting reports they call him one of the few true pass first pgs.

He didn't asked to get played at the 2 HEAVILY and flipped back and forth in his first 3 years. Furthermore, considering all of the win streaks that the franchise has had have been with him at the pg, it has made no sense. Felton has NOWHERE near the shoot first mentality that Chauncey Billups had before LB got him. He also is not far off in shooting percentages while having a higher apg and a/t ratio than Chauncey did even the year he won Finals MVP.

The funny thing to me is how Okafor gets a pass for not being Dwight Howard and yet Felton doesn't get a pass for not being Deron Williams or Chris Paul when his situation is even MORE context dependent than Mek's. If you look at their rookie years, even with all the BS of Felton's rookie year, in the 2nd half of the year he was arguably 1B to Paul's 1A for top performing rookies. His DEVELOPMENT since then has not been the same. A good portion of it is individual skills, but another huge chunk is COACHING, front office management, productivity and health of important aquisitions (May, Morrison and to a lesser but still prominent extent Crash and Mek have all had inconsistent health), and the fact that this is an EXPANSION franchise. I have a hard time seeing how Emeka gets a pass due to his 20 game stint of Sam "messing with his head" and yet Felton is fully accountable for the clusterscrew that has been the Bobcats situation.

I hope that he gets a chance to really shine under LB but who knows. It's funny how the fan situation is set up for one of those David Carr (DJ) vs. Jake Delhomme (Felton) situations. The good part is I don't think DJ will struggle anywhere near where Carr did.

[110oldeast]

Finally, to make it clear that my posts are not about UNC homerism, I did not like the May pick when it happened as I thought Granger was a better fit at the time. I grew to like it more when May played initially. But I was in favor of trading him for 17 to NJ in hopes of getting Sean Williams when it seemed that he would never be healthy. The irony is that I thought May was more of a PR pick and all his pick really has done is put more pressure on Felton. Felton may get crucified over not being Chris Paul, but a huge part of this is b/c May made that 13th pick a wasted pick. Adding to the irony is that Sean is exactly the pick and pop (THE end of clock play in the NBA) piece that Felton could use in the halfcourt that would cut down on his forced shots at the end of the clock.

[Icky Thump]

Wow 110oldeast... those are some truly insightful post's... PERIOD. Good job. I want what is best for the Bobcats and I think that is going to be having both Felton and Smurf. I haven't seen enough from Smurf on the defensive end nor assists just yet (I know it was just Summer League). All I know for certain is that we have two quality point guards. I believe if Smurf becomes the starter he would have to be a near all-star quality type point guard and that's not going to hurt my feelings if that is in fact what he were to become.

[Ghost Kat]

[quote=spectre;94393]Well said Slam. And that was right after the time it was reported that the team had pretty much starting ignoring the Idiot and went to playing their own way.



You don't think Felts thinks he has something to prove too? Lord, the guy's been crucified for the last couple of years for not being Chris Paul, he's been forced to play out of position...so much so that now he hears that "combo guard" crap. That's not what he is...that's what the two previous imbeciles tried to turn him in to.

Felts had Bernie and the Idiot playing him at the 2, but DJ had Barnes playing HIM at the 2 as well. I imagine both players are going to have to re-learn some things.

I think DJ is a good passer, but what exactly makes you say he's "pass first" since he demonstrated everything but that last year at Texas and in SL? In both instances he looked for his shot for the most part. Media hype? Going back to the Durant year? Felts was much more a "pass first" PG in college than DJ was.

I like DJ, but as I've said all along I think some fans are setting themselves up for disappointment. He's got a LOT of work to do. I think he'll progress and will eventually be a very good PG, but don't kid yourself on where he is now vs. where he needs to be.

BTW...you know another player on the Bobcats won the Bob Cousy award too right?




Ok you Made some good points. I call DJ pass first cuz that what he would probably like to be. DJ at Texas had the same problem Felton has now. They put him at the 2 and made him a scorer when Durant left. But the difference is he's a better scorer then Felton. Same for the summer league, He was turned into a scoring guard and not a passing one. I'm think when he gets guys he trusts he'll return to his passing days. But still showing his team he can get points when call to do so

[spectre]

Ok you Made some good points. I call DJ pass first cuz that what he would probably like to be. DJ at Texas had the same problem Felton has now. They put him at the 2 and made him a scorer when Durant left. But the difference is he's a better scorer then Felton. Same for the summer league, He was turned into a scoring guard and not a passing one. I'm think when he gets guys he trusts he'll return to his passing days. But still showing his team he can get points when call to do so

Well thanks...hope I didn't come off too harsh (I REALLY need to stop posting at 6 am) cuz I didn't mean it that way.

Anyway, I totally agree DJ has a better shot than Felts, and offensively I wouldn't mind playing them both together in stretches, but with Felts as the PG drawing the defender and kicking out to DJ on the perimeter. That'd have to be in certain situations though, as on defense 1) Felts isn't as strong against the SGs and 2) I think DJ will really struggle with the above average PGs, at least for a while.

Heh, as far as guys he can trust, Bonnell reported the same thing about Felts during his 2nd year when he'd try to take over...according to May it had to do with trusting his mates. I think it wasn't so much his mates as the lack of offensive plays; with no spacing or ball/player movement guys aren't going to get open.

Maybe I'm setting myself up, but I think Brown being here to teach these guys how to play a TEAM game will be huge...so much so that I think we need to throw away a lot of what we think of a player and give them all a 2nd look. I don't think we'll recognize these guys 2 months into the season compared to last year.

[Muttley]

Maybe I'm setting myself up, but I think Brown being here to teach these guys how to play a TEAM game will be huge...so much so that I think we need to throw away a lot of what we think of a player and give them all a 2nd look. I don't think we'll recognize these guys 2 months into the season compared to last year.

I'm somewhere between hope and expectation on this front. Almost everything we've heard about what LB has done here since his hire is teach, teach, teach. There's no reason that that would stop before practices begin with the entire team. So, it should be expected that he instructs the team to play his way. In turn, they will play his way or they'll be on the bench.

I mean, really, remember the last guy who was "coaching" this team? For better or worse, there's almost no way that this team plays like last season again. Furthermore, the change will most certainly be for the better because there is an actual plan in place, an experienced voice on the bench, and, without doubt, a better locker room morale. (By that, I mean that they let Larry Brown join then in the locker-room at half-time.)

How does this relate to DJ and Raymond? They'll both be improved players from what anyone's seen of them in 2 months time. Felton will be our starter, but our back-up will still be quality.

That can only be a good thing.

[dnbman]

Many good points about why Felton will remain the starter.

I want to add one other point about Augustine. Expecting a rookie to supplant another young, quality starting point guard is a lot of pressure. Felton is still progressing and is now used to playing the NBA game. This isn't a case where our veteran is getting close to retirement, so we can play the younger guy to get him used to the game. Both pgs should offer quality minutes, but Felton is going to have a lot of advantages over Augustine.

We need to let DJ grow and not say he's garbage if he's not supplanting Felton by mid-season. It's quite possible that DJ plays great as a rookie and Felton plays a lot better as a fourth year veteran, leaving DJ on the bench of the majority of the game.

[Ghost Kat]

I honestly agree with alot of the posts I've read. Just to let it be known I am not rooting against Felton by any means. But when i look at the two of them, I see more of a future with DJ. But the idea of both running the team, leads me to believe We'll make the play offs. But i'll give my reason for that in another post.
Felton is a good player, Good point guard and has tried to be a good leader on the team. I would be sad to see him go if traded or released, But i can't see DJ being a lifetime backup. I still think DJ was a better pick then Lopez and has the season goes by you'll see why. It's exciting to guess at which will be a better QB for the team and the Back up is always the best player on the field when the starter isn't doing what the fans want. Same for basketball, We expect the new guys to shine and that leads to pressure which leads to either A draft bust or a Allstar.

[Ghost Kat]

There was a post earlier bout Felton not being a Shot first point guard and shooting 40th among starting pg's. Ok, He may not have shot more then most for a couple reasons,
1. He knows he's not a good shooter.
2. He is a passing PG forced to score.

Go back to those same stats and see where he ranked in shooting percentage between those same guards, Let me know where he ranks there.
I watched Felton all thru his Carolina days. He's a passer and a good one. But can't shoot the ball. Point Guard has to be able to score and pass. DJ has shown he can score and pass. DJ was also forced into a scoring role when Durant left Texas. But the year before that DJ averaged almost 7 apg.
I believe Felton will and should start. But I dont know if they wil be able to resign him next year because of cap space. Then we have another Omeka type contract fight over the summer.

[110oldeast]

Kat,

My only point was that he is NOT and has not been shoot first despite the fact that it has been thrown around at him while misusing data to support a flawed point. Furthermore, when you take out the number of shots that he took as a last resort with the shot clock on his back (fg percentage killers), it would show that he is even less shoot first than has been reported. Furthermore, his percentages would likely go up as well.

Furthermore, Felton has shown that he can score as well. He was 7th among pgs in the league as far as double doubles go and he has several games with good scoring and distribution while average 14.4 ppgs. He's not Eric Snow. It's not just about his ability to score but the team getting consistent good shots. Playing faster like the summer league team did could help this until our frontcourt players show themselves to be better in the halfcourt (a bigger issue than pg play for the Cats).

Finally, you said he could not shoot or score at Carolina nor run an offense well which displays another flaw in analysis, b/c if you saw what that offense looked like when he was on the floor vs off it you would notice the difference even with the other guys present. He led all ACC shooters in 3 pt shooting percentage that year (ahead of Redick and McCants--he only took a few less 3s than McCants) including 4-5 from 3 (17 pts) in the Championship game. He actually led the Eastern Conference for a month or 2 in 3 pt shooting his rookie year. I know the reality is that many Carolina fans have trouble remembering that Felton/May/McCants class outside of McCants initial outbursts when he came (good and bad) and May's closing to his career, so I don't fault you for this. He has several specific shots he needs to work on total shot selection, but you don't become SC's all-time leading scorer and lead teams like little Latta over Dematha, Mt Zion, etc. if you "can't" score.

DJ is new and has a clean slate which is his greatest advantage next to having Larry Brown (who doesn't have the loyalty to Ray that BB did to BK when Ray came) be his first NBA coach instead of BB and Vincent. Furthermore, he is not coming in to unseat Brevin Knight (Rick Bonnell's former pet) nor was he a part of us not getting Chris Paul (Tom Sorenson's fave). Therefore they won't spend his whole career trying to undermine his play w/ no legitimate local basketball analysts to call them out.

DJ has a great skillset and may be the man, but the reality of it is that he is the new shiny car with no miles on him just like David Carr was for Panther fans who hated Jake Delhomme. Oddly, Felton has been an integral part of much of the success this expansion franchise has had while only receiving credit for the success that they have not. DJ put up 30 in the summer league which is great but doesn't guarantee success. Heck, Felton put up 30 pts 10 assists 8 rebounds and 5 steals in a duel @ Cleveland against Lebron in a REAL game as a rookie, but that doesn't mean a thing now.



There was a post earlier bout Felton not being a Shot first point guard and shooting 40th among starting pg's. Ok, He may not have shot more then most for a couple reasons,
1. He knows he's not a good shooter.
2. He is a passing PG forced to score.

Go back to those same stats and see where he ranked in shooting percentage between those same guards, Let me know where he ranks there.
I watched Felton all thru his Carolina days. He's a passer and a good one. But can't shoot the ball. Point Guard has to be able to score and pass. DJ has shown he can score and pass. DJ was also forced into a scoring role when Durant left Texas. But the year before that DJ averaged almost 7 apg.
I believe Felton will and should start. But I dont know if they wil be able to resign him next year because of cap space. Then we have another Omeka type contract fight over the summer.

[jpf_v2.0]

I think Felton's biggest issue was the offense and coaching. There was no real offensive philosophy that I ever noticed. No spacing. No noticeable formula of an offensive gameplan. Add to that Vincent's tinkering with Felton playing both guard spots, and I think it's hard for anyone to say what Felton is truly capable of as a point guard.

It's hard to imagine him getting to the same level with Chris Paul as a legit candidate for MVP, but I don't think it's a stretch to say he could potentially be an All-Star reserve.

Carolina Homerism? Doubtful, though I do love my Tarheels.

Hoping for the high end of the spectrum? Probably.

[BIGCatBobcat]

I think we're all realizing 2 things: Just how much better it will be this year with LB vs last year with Ham. Also, that we're in good shape at starter and back up at most positions.

Larry is a PG coach, Ray will be our Point Guard this year, starting, and starting the season. This is the first time that has happened to him since he's been in the league. Phil Ford wasn't allowed to talk to him much from the sounds of things. So LB and Phil get to work with Ray all the off season, all season. I don't think it's make or break for him, I think it's build for Ray. Right behind him, and clipping at his heels is a #9 overall and best pure-PG coming out this year in Augustin. That does 2 things: Makes Ray compete harder, which he looks like a strong competitor as it is and it makes our back-up more solid than it has ever been. Come on I mean Ray and DJ is way better than BK and Ray, or in year one BK and Bogans or whoever? and way way way better than Ray and McInnis and tiny the incredible shoot first PG.

So our PG play is solid. The only way I see DJ starting is if we start tanking and want to try him out, if Ray just isn't very good or if DJ comes into a few games and single handedly blows them open. I don't see any of those happening enough for LB to make that call.

[Ghost Kat]

110 Oldest, You've misunderstood what I've said about Felton's scoring at Carolina and him running an offense there. I didn't say he couldn't do it or that he was even a poor player. I watched every single Carolina game all three yrs he was there. What i was stating is he is not a good shooter. He's a good scorer, He can put the ball in the basket...Yes..But he's still not a good shooter. By the way i hate Eric Snow and would never compare Ray to him in anyway.

All the facts everyone has written about Felton I agree with, I also Agree we are blessed to even have this to "argue" about. Felton is a great player with high basketball skills. If it wasn't for this "08" draft, We wouldnt be talking bout Felton going anywhere. But we did draft a grade A (potentially) point guard, No team has been able to keep to great point guards. Someone has to go, If for nothing else salary purposes.

I can't really argue with any of Ray's stat's cuz i have known of DJ's to back-up my arguement. This is all i know. I watched Carolina play, Loved Felton and was ready to do back flips when he was drafted. Wanted Chris Paul Becuase i knew he was a better over all player but was still happy with Felton. I'm very bias in my sports, It's Carolina Sports over everyone win or lose. But when the Bobcats draft this Texas point who i hae seen play a little, I knew he was the furture of the Bobcats. I have no stat's to back that up, just the feeling of a true sports fan. I've seen both play and as of today I'm siding with DJ.

I still hope we can find a way to keep both of them. DJ may not start this year or next , But i've seen how the NBA works. If your not an all-star, The new guy will always take your spot. Fans always want something new and better even if the old one works just fine..Thats America

[110oldeast]

I watched the kid play in HS, at UNC, and for the Bobcats. As I said, he led the ACC in 3 pt shooting in his junior year. He led the Eastern conference 1 or 2 months in 3 pt shooting as a rookie. Say he CAN'T shoot or COULDN'T shoot at UNC is still not correct. Is it his strongest skill? No. But again, you don't do things he has while LACKING the ability to shoot. He can definitely improve his consistency and more specifically his shot selection, but I mentioned Eric Snow b/c he is some who can't shoot. There have been few games where teams guarded Felton like Mugsy and just dared him to shoot at any level of ball including the NBA.

BTW, I'm not saying your feeling is even wrong on Augustin. But my thoughts on this have as much to do with built in advantages of coming in with a clean slate under a new coach and in a media climate that welcomed him more than Felton. His advantage is that he doesn't have to unlearn 3 years of poor coaching and that again, he is the new shiny car. BTW, it is ironic that no one on the Bobcats has been an All-Star, but Felton is the only one who takes the heat. Everyone gets the benefit of the doubt for being misutilized and in a poor system and yet the 1 guy who has CLEARLY been misutilized by constantly rotating form pg to sg in his career doesn't get that benefit of the doubt.

Felton has plenty that he needs to work on, but coaching and having an actual SYSTEM will help. It could also reduce the number of fg% killing desperation shots at the end of the shot clock that he takes. He needs to keep working on his midrange jumper and in between game and floater as well as finishing off of 1 foot in addition to his preferred 2 foot method. He also needs to improve his shot selection and not settle for a jumper when he can get a better shot. That said, the constant underrating of his tougness and ability to make big plays in close games is another thing that goes ignored as folks get wrapped up in pure fantasy stats and aesthetics of play.

He has consistently had one of the highest clutch ratings on 82games.com which looks at the winning and losing percentage of a team with the player on the floor in a game that is within 5 points either way in the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter. He was #1 for the starters with a 50% win percentage in this situation and a 17-17 record. J-Rich was 2nd at 47.2%. Carroll was on the only regular w/ a higher percentage at 16-15 (51%). In what little success this franchise has had, Felton has played pg for much of it (all the win streaks). It would be nice if we could him out at pg with the put right lineup (how did it take Sam so long to put Carroll---a shooter--on the floor with a terrific drive and kick player in Felton?) and let him actually play the position he was drafted to play.

[110oldeast]

And yeah, we are lucky to have depth at pg. Although I would rather have ONE legit PF that we can count on in this league where PFs are AS crucial to your success as pgs while also being a critical element in the success of most strong pgs.

[BIGCatBobcat]

And yeah, we are lucky to have depth at pg. Although I would rather have ONE legit PF that we can count on in this league where PFs are AS crucial to your success as pgs while also being a critical element in the success of most strong pgs.

The one big hole we have is PF. No real starter, sort of the pu pu plater of May, AA(is it too soon after Alan Anderson to call Alexis Ajinca aa?) Dudley and Davidson. I just want one of them to break out and take that spot and the rest can fall into place.

To my earlier point, we are set at like 3 positions without question.

[dav7z]

The one big hole we have is PF. No real starter, sort of the pu pu plater of May, AA(is it too soon after Alan Anderson to call Alexis Ajinca aa?) Dudley and Davidson. I just want one of them to break out and take that spot and the rest can fall into place.

To my earlier point, we are set at like 3 positions without question.


If this team had just a severicable power foward i think we make the play offs . I hope we address that mater befor season starts through Free agency , or trade.

[110oldeast]

No doubt. From your keyboard to the FO's ears...



If this team had just a severicable power foward i think we make the play offs . I hope we address that mater befor season starts through Free agency , or trade.

[Ghost Kat]

PF is our biggest problem right now. But is it really a problem?? Or is it a problem now for the fans in the offseason cuz we don't where or who's going to play or how well they will play. We have Guy's that can rotate in and out for that position. Ajinca,May,Davidson,Hollins,Dudley and even Omeka can be put in that position. We have big Athletic big men , who now have a great defensive minded coach to help with their foot work and positioning on the floor. Look what Brown did with the Pistions. All great players but no dominate player. Thats what we have in Charlotte. A group of hard working, Defensive minded players. They need motivation and a sense their effort will actually get them somewhere this time. Brown delivers that.

Maybe our PF problem is just a problem for now, Once we see how the team works on court I think all this offseason chat will have been just something to fill our time.

110 Oldest, I'm loving the passion in trying to defend why Felton should still be the leader of the team. I really wish more people in the community and State paided that much attention. But they don't All they see is us losing. Either way DJ or Felton I honestly don't care. I play'd sports in high school and college, I know it's about the team and both make my team better. I've said that in every post


Thank You everyone for your opinions :rock:

[110oldeast]

I hear ya Kat. It's all good.

You know who the X-factor player who put that Detroit team over the hump was?

Power Forward: Rasheed Wallace

It's no longer just a "fill in" position in the NBA. I bet a lot of people on the board would be shocked to know that the Hornets have a better record without Chris Paul than without David West. Because while Paul was a legit 1B for MVP of the league last year, David West is the 1B MVP for the Hornets. Until the Bobcats realize that a LEGIT PF is a necessary commodity in today's game, it won't matter how many talented pgs they pick up. As of now, our PF position is one big ol' ? Here's to the mystery solving itself before the year starts or very early in it.


PF is our biggest problem right now. But is it really a problem?? Or is it a problem now for the fans in the offseason cuz we don't where or who's going to play or how well they will play. We have Guy's that can rotate in and out for that position. Ajinca,May,Davidson,Hollins,Dudley and even Omeka can be put in that position. We have big Athletic big men , who now have a great defensive minded coach to help with their foot work and positioning on the floor. Look what Brown did with the Pistions. All great players but no dominate player. Thats what we have in Charlotte. A group of hard working, Defensive minded players. They need motivation and a sense their effort will actually get them somewhere this time. Brown delivers that.

Maybe our PF problem is just a problem for now, Once we see how the team works on court I think all this offseason chat will have been just something to fill our time.

110 Oldest, I'm loving the passion in trying to defend why Felton should still be the leader of the team. I really wish more people in the community and State paided that much attention. But they don't All they see is us losing. Either way DJ or Felton I honestly don't care. I play'd sports in high school and college, I know it's about the team and both make my team better. I've said that in every post


Thank You everyone for your opinions :rock: