Augustine Video

[dav7z]

Im glad DJ has joined the rest of the guys working out and playing pick up games. But i still say it's no way he takes Feltons starting gig this year.
Thoughts on the VIDEO and how good will DJ be this year. Could he make the rookie allstar team this year thoughts.


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[Slam]

I'm hoping that Felts is so good this season that DJ wont see enough court time to be considered for the rookie Vs soph game or the all rookie 1st team.

[dav7z]

I'm hoping that Felts is so good this season that DJ wont see enough court time to be considered for the rookie Vs soph game or the all rookie 1st team.

Agreeded big time, ALL so Mek where in the hell are you . You just signed a 72 milion dollar contract . And need to be working out as much as any one on the team . OK50 is starting to piss me off big time . He needs work just like EVER other player out thair . I have my doubts as far as his TEAM decation to winning. It's starting to seem as if it's all about Mek and the hell with the rest of the team . Only one not to show up early making that kind of money . Geting pissed i am?

[ziggy]

I'll give it 20 games tops before there is a raging debate on making DJ the starter :biggrin:

[ammofan]

Really nice videos.....I like the way thsi seaosn is starting already!!!

[Dead_Real]

I assume he was in Texas with his family during Hurricane Ike that's maybe the reason he wasn't in Charlotte a lot sooner hopefully they are alright now.

Like I said in that Panthers thread a while back I want Ray and DJ to have a friendly competition similar to how D-Will and Jonathan Stewart are having with each other right now that could only make the team better.

PS - I believe it might be hard for him to make the rookie team either way he has some competition with Rose, Mayo, Westbrook and Chalmers but you never know I hope he does though.

[Ghost Kat]

Felton may start & Finish the season. But it's contract time. I would like to see them work together like the Penthers RB's also, But Felton is already in the hot seat. Everyone has been sayin he'll have a better year, But i seriously doubt it. Unless Felton works on his shooting he'll still be in the same boat thats sinking.

[Ghost Kat]

Plus DJ will make the rookie team, I think alot of you are over hyping the "big name" rookies from this year. U don't even know how much PT they are going to be given.

[Slam]

Plus DJ will make the rookie team, I think alot of you are over hyping the "big name" rookies from this year. U don't even know how much PT they are going to be given.
I would expect Westbrook, Bayless and maybe even Chamlbers to make it in front of DJ.

And because he was the 1st overall I see Rose being a token pick before DJ gets a sniff.

You only have to look how badly Fets was stiffed in his rookie year in the rook Vs soph game and the all rookie team.

[Dead_Real]

Good call about Bayless slam forgot about him too.

[dnbman]

I'm hoping that Felton is so good this season that Augustine rarely plays, but when he does, he's so good that people debate who the starter should be.

Go Point Guards!

[Ghost Kat]

I would expect Westbrook, Bayless and maybe even Chamlbers to make it in front of DJ.

And because he was the 1st overall I see Rose being a token pick before DJ gets a sniff.

You only have to look how badly Fets was stiffed in his rookie year in the rook Vs soph game and the all rookie team.


Agreed, But you have to look at the teams they are one and that teams situation.
Chamlbers has aready started off bad getting kicking out Rookie training camp for having weed. Thats going to hang over him for a while with the coaches.

Bayless has a good chance with the Blazers,they are an up and coming team with Oden back.

Westbrook is in OKC now. New city , new team , plus that team wasn't that impressive last year. He's not going to get alot of Sport Center highlights out there.

All these players are on rebuilding teams, The Bobcats have supposely already rebuildt. It's going to be easier for DJ to produce better numbers cuz he's not the #1,2, or 3 option for his team. He won't have to force up shots that lower his %. He won't be stuck turning the ball over trying to make a play. Coming off the bench is get more time to learn to focus on the game instead of being asked to lead a NBA franchise right out of college. Plus DJ has a better coach then those playes to learn from.

Edited: I forgot about Rose. Rose may have been #1 but the team he went to isn't. If put in the starting spot he will wear down to fast. He's small and very speedly like Iverson. I don't think Rose is as tough as Iverson.
DJ is on the most solid of those teams. Better team play usually produces better players...hopefully.

[Slam]

Agreed, But you have to look at the teams they are one and that teams situation.
Chamlbers has aready started off bad getting kicking out Rookie training camp for having weed. Thats going to hang over him for a while with the coaches.

Bayless has a good chance with the Blazers,they are an up and coming team with Oden back.

Westbrook is in OKC now. New city , new team , plus that team wasn't that impressive last year. He's not going to get alot of Sport Center highlights out there.

All these players are on rebuilding teams, The Bobcats have supposely already rebuildt. It's going to be easier for DJ to produce better numbers cuz he's not the #1,2, or 3 option for his team. He won't have to force up shots that lower his %. He won't be stuck turning the ball over trying to make a play. Coming off the bench is get more time to learn to focus on the game instead of being asked to lead a NBA franchise right out of college. Plus DJ has a better coach then those playes to learn from.

Edited: I forgot about Rose. Rose may have been #1 but the team he went to isn't. If put in the starting spot he will wear down to fast. He's small and very speedly like Iverson. I don't think Rose is as tough as Iverson.
DJ is on the most solid of those teams. Better team play usually produces better players...hopefully.
Totally disagree.

Miami doesn't have a PG to speak of (Quinn and Banks???) so the position is ripe for the picking and Mario to log big mins. The rookie camp thing will be forgotten about in a months time.

Westbrook is going to be a stud and is only competing with Watson for PT now that Ridnour is gone and Watson is often injured.

DJ is playing behind a guy who seems to have the full support of his coach and is a 4th year player - who is also an iron man.

Rose like Ai? Except that Rose is 6'3" and 195 and Ai is 5'11" and 180 soaking wet!!

[Muttley]

Rose like Ai? Except that Rose is 6'3" and 195 and Ai is 5'11" and 180 soaking wet!!

Yeah, and AI's still tougher than Rose.

[millst2]

I'll give it 20 games tops before there is a raging debate on making DJ the starter :biggrin:

I honestly do not think there will be a debate on DJ vs Felt.. LB is going to let felton play the dedicated slot and unless he gets injured or just proves to LB he can't handle the position. I love the thought of May being healthy, cause we all know that Felton is pretty damn comfortable when he has May as an option. I see felton's numbers looking better this year with a healthy May.

[Ghost Kat]

It still comes down to the fact that the teams aren't any good. Those players are going to be asked to lead their sorry teams. The all rookie team is about stats and production. The players you mentioned will produce of course but how well? With the teams playing and probably losing, that will force these people to do way to much. DJ sneaks in on good production numbers cuz he's on a team thats supposely stable.

[WAM9]

It still comes down to the fact that the teams aren't any good. Those players are going to be asked to lead their sorry teams. The all rookie team is about stats and production. The players you mentioned will produce of course but how well? With the teams playing and probably losing, that will force these people to do way to much. DJ sneaks in on good production numbers cuz he's on a team thats supposely stable.

Your right that the rookie team comes down to production and stats...However, increased, consistent playing time is the biggest way to guarantee increased stats for a rookie. A guy like Rose is going to get playing time for sure. I don't buy the Rose getting worn out by starting right away. Most guys don't hit the rookie wall until around the all-star break anyway.

Barring an injury to Felton, or him absolutely getting into Larry Brown's doghouse, DJ won't get enough playing time to make the rookie team. Especially with the lack of national press and respect that the Bobcats get.

[Ghost Kat]

I didn't forget playing time is the main way to get production. I'm one of the few here that think DJ will seriously challenge Felton. He my not gett the starting job, But if DJ is productive while on the floor Larry Brown would be crazy to leave him on the bench. If for no other reason it keeps Felton fresh. I doubt loggin 35 plus minutes a game is good for the body. Felton may have been forced to play that many minutes before because he didn't have a suitable back up. Larry Brown has already shown he is willing to replace Felton. I agree Felton would have to crash and burn to be replaced as the starter and i don't think that will happen. Better players to pass to equals assists. Better Coaching equals open shots. He can take most guards off the dribble which opens up shots for eveyone. Plus unlike Felton , DJ has a good jumper.

Maybe not first team all - rookie, But atleast second team

[Slam]

Larry Brown has already shown he is willing to replace Felton.
When did that happen?

[spectre]

Unlike in other years I don't have a lot of problems playing both Felton and DJ at the same time in spurts...but utilizing DJ as SG on offense (switch on D). Main reason being DJ's sick outside shooting as well as adding handles. Felton WILL be pass first under Larry Brown or he'll sit, so I think this will work...but again only in short stretches. I want (as I'm sure LB wants) to at least be equal to the opposing team defensively and with Felton on the opposing guard we stand a better shot at that.

That would give him a few more mpg and more experience.

[WAM9]

Unlike in other years I don't have a lot of problems playing both Felton and DJ at the same time in spurts...but utilizing DJ as SG on offense (switch on D). Main reason being DJ's sick outside shooting as well as adding handles. Felton WILL be pass first under Larry Brown or he'll sit, so I think this will work...but again only in short stretches. I want (as I'm sure LB wants) to at least be equal to the opposing team defensively and with Felton on the opposing guard we stand a better shot at that.

That would give him a few more mpg and more experience.

That might be better for DJ's individual minutes (and stats), but I don't think it would be good for the Bobcats at all. We have a real logjam of wing players that play the 2/3 spots. Adding DJ or Felton to the mix there only further clogs it. Either Ammo or Carroll or Dudley will be 3rd string already. We only have 2 legitimate point guards on the roster though. Why not use them as a true first string and second string? We have already seen how playing a point guard at the 2 spot messes with a young player (see Felton).

There might be situations where Felton and DJ belong on the floor together but I just hope it's not very often at all.

[Slam]

That might be better for DJ's individual minutes (and stats), but I don't think it would be good for the Bobcats at all. We have a real logjam of wing players that play the 2/3 spots. Adding DJ or Felton to the mix there only further clogs it. Either Ammo or Carroll or Dudley will be 3rd string already. We only have 2 legitimate point guards on the roster though. Why not use them as a true first string and second string? We have already seen how playing a point guard at the 2 spot messes with a young player (see Felton).

There might be situations where Felton and DJ belong on the floor together but I just hope it's not very often at all.
Agreed. I'm a traditionalist and don't like the idea of putting round pegs in square holes.

I'm from the school of "a PG is a PG and a SG is a SG".

[Dead_Real]

Around draft time MJ and Coach Brown scared me a little with there talk of Felton being able to play at both 1 and 2 guard positions. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if we see Ray and DJ Augustin on the floor together this year.

[WAM9]

Around draft time MJ and Coach Brown scared me a little with there talk of Felton being able to play at both 1 and 2 guard positions. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if we see Ray and DJ Augustin on the floor together this year.

Maybe they knew they might very possibly end up with a point guard in the draft and wanted to lay the groundwork with Felton and the fans that if they did indeed draft a PG, then that wouldn't automatically mean that Felton was going to lose his job (actually being proactive).

Maybe not and they intend on playing Felton and DJ together. Unless we are trying to put our fastest lineup on the court, I just can't see how that will make our team better. I admit though, I cetainly could be wrong.

How many folks here believe that either DJ or Felton should log more than a handful of minutes at the 2 spot this year?

[Ghost Kat]

When did that happen?


How about draft night when they tried to give away Wallace for TJ Ford cuz Felton wasn't cutting it. You don't give up Crash for a back up. Then drafting the second best point guard in the draft didn't help Raymonds stock. Plus Larry Brown himself sayin he has no favorites in this fight.

BTY: it's not a good idea to run both Felton and DJ on the court at the same time. Since Felton can't shot that puts DJ at the 2 and thats a defensive liabilty.

[Slam]

How about draft night when they tried to give away Wallace for TJ Ford cuz Felton wasn't cutting it. You don't give up Crash for a back up. Then drafting the second best point guard in the draft didn't help Raymonds stock. Plus Larry Brown himself sayin he has no favorites in this fight.

How about Brown continually singing praise for Felton from the moment he signed on and the fact that MICHAEL JORDAN has final say on ALL basketball related decisions - including and mainly the roster.

So if we were to trade Felton, it wouldn't be Brown's call, it would be all Jordan.

Brown has shown nothing but support for Felton from the moment he arrived.