Bobcats Extend Offer To Carl Landry

[TheLegend]

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/release_landry_080924.html

[MattD]

i love it... if we can get him I think we will be solid throughout. Give Sean may some motivation...

rockets extended an offer and he hadent taken it, and pretty much said if he doesnt hes gone I thought, so maybe some potential to snag him? Im rootin for it

[chabber]

At least we made a move. I hope this doesn't turn out like the Varejao one where it seems they were just doing it to help the other team out.

I'm hoping they don't match too. It looks like this offer is probably double what he's recieved from them before.

[ALong13]

The Charlotte Observer is reporting that the Bobcats have extended an offer sheet to free agent PF Carl Landry.

Landry had a falling out with the Rockets this summer and there's a decent chance they'll let him go to Charlotte. Landry would potentially start at PF for the Cats, as early word is that new coach Larry Brown wants to start Emeka Okafor at center. In addition, this would clear the way for Luis Scola to get major minutes at PF in Houston. If Landry goes to Charlotte, Sean May's potential value (if he proves healthy) takes a hit.

-Rotoworld

Heck yes, I was hoping they'd offer him a contract...Rotoworld think we may have a shot of them not matching...I hope its true....I believe he could be a starter as well...

PG: Felton (DJ, Brown)
SG: JRich (Carroll)
SF: Crash (Ammo, Duds)
PF: Landry (May, Jermareo)
C: OK50 (Nazr, Hollins)

[tamburello]

Hoopsworld says the deal is $9 million for 3 years. I love the length and the price, more than these, I loved to see an action by FO.

Actually the price is not too high for Rockets to match, however, they are at the luxury tax border. The deal will be double for them if they match. As I had said before that Landry will not adress our problems 100% percent, for this price he's a bargain. He was an essential piece in their 22 game winning streak last year.

This move is definitely exciting. Let's see what Rockets will do. I suppose the deal is front loaded to make things worse for Rockets.

[ohara831]

I had mentioned earlier today on RGM that I liked Landry, but thought that Jermareo Davidson could actually match and surpass the Landry numbers if he was to start in place of Sean May for some reason. The only drawback on Jermareo is he is foul prone. Ajinca was drafted for our PF of the near future. It makes me wonder why we would sign Landry to a 3 yr offer when he's only 25 unless we really have doubts about Ajinca being able to contribute within a yr. If that's the case, then we really screwed up drafting him with a 2nd 1st round pick. Not sure what the FO is doing.

[ziggy]

Here is what the Rockets fans think of it

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=154428

[ziggy]

Here are a few Carl Landry highlights for your viewing pleasure :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w18PNee3h-s

[ammofan]

YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! Thanks MJ!

maybe we do have a plan ;)

[mrtarheel]

I really haven't seen him play much but on the highlights he is a beast down low. I hope he has a 15 to 8 ft jump shot. This may be what we need. May might not be able to go all out and this will give us a solid rotation with May, Landry, and Davidson at the 4. I hope this is our lucky break. This could jump start us for the upcoming season. What really impressed was the rebound over Duncan on the highlight reel.

[davcbow]

If we get him and barring a lot of injuries would there be anyone still thinking we wont make the playoffs? :cool:

[dav7z]

I have said for most of the off season this guy puts us in the playoffs. Hes a steal at three years and nine milion dollars . It gives a unready French guy time to devolope . And takes fears about Mays health away . This is a very good move and a great time to make the offer . Just as Dorsey agrees to a offer. I doubt the Rockets match the offer being in luxery tax hell . All so waiting this long took a lot of other offers off the table.Thinking Landry gets a larger offer from the Rockets. Great move by management . I really hope he becomes a Bobcat . If he does we a playoff team for sure.
If this works we a solid ten deep , At least two at ever position.

[Slam]

I don't see a guy like Landry making much of a difference at all. He's bench fodder.

And who ever said that the FO must have screwed up by taking Ajinca in the draft because he wont show results in the 1st year must be out of their mind!!

No way was Ajinca drafted to contribute this first year. No one, at least I thought no one, expected him to contribute for 3 or 4 years.

[dav7z]

I don't see a guy like Landry making much of a difference at all. He's bench fodder.

And who ever said that the FO must have screwed up by taking Ajinca in the draft because he wont show results in the 1st year must be out of their mind!!

No way was Ajinca drafted to contribute this first year. No one, at least I thought no one, expected him to contribute for 3 or 4 years.


Landry a bench fodder . You got to be kidding Slam . Hes a beast on the boards , Im not saying hes a ALL STAR Slam but give the guy some love . Hes better than any thing we got at the four considering Mays health.
Agreeded about Ajinca .


Landry is more than likely a Bobcat
The Rockets are sitting at 73 milion with 15 players all ready signed . And Dorsey ready to sign thats 16 Players . The addition of Artest at eight milion all most rules out Landry.


http://hoopshype.com/salaries/houston.htm
Check out the Rockets.

[Keetch]

I hate to rain on the parade, because I'd love to see Landry as a Bobcat. But it's not happening. This plays directly for the Rockets to sign him back.

Including Dorsey who hasn't signed yet, they have 14 players ready to go with Landry set for the 15th spot. If they want to sign Mutombo though, they'll need to waive a minimum contract.

The luxury tax isn't an issue since numerous contracts come off their books after this year.

Landry is great, but the Rockets will keep him. $9M over 3 years is good value for him.

This is Varejao x 2. If we wanted Landry, we would have had to put more up; and likely he's not worth more.

[Slam]

Landry a bench fodder . You got to be kidding Slam . Hes a beast on the boards , Im not saying hes a ALL STAR Slam but give the guy some love . Hes better than any thing we got at the four considering Mays health.
Agreeded about Ajinca .

Check out the Rockets.
Don't know about him being a beast on the boards dav. The best he ever did last year was 11 in a game. Dudley pulled down 18 against the GSW's.

Landry wasn't even a dominate rebounder at Purdue.

I'm just not that excited about an undersized forward/centre who has a history of injuries.

I'd rather give the burn to Davidson.

P.S. Landry is also 24/25 years old and no spring chicken who has pretty much got as good as he is ever going to get.

[WAM9]

I don't think it is likely that Houston lets him walk. 9 mil over 3 years seems very, very reasonable to me. I know they have lots of contracts but I just can't imagine them not matching the offer.

I think he is the type of player that could guard the athletic 4's of this league. That is what we are missing right now. I'm not saying he would be the answer to all our prayers but he would certainly make us better.

I applaud the Front Office for at least being active. Sometimes when you're fishing you catch a fish...sometimes you don't...but you never will if you don't have your hook in the water:)

[dnbman]

If we're going to make a move this off season, this Landry deal is one I can get behind.

If he doesn't work out, we'd only have two years and six million dollars left on his contract, a perfect trading piece to add to another salary.

[catsfan]

reasons why the rockets may not match

1.Landrys knee will not be able to be checked out before they can match

2.he doesn't want to be there,bad for a team trying to win it all

3.The contract may be front loaded,they will already be in the luxery tax if it isn't(they could easily dump an expiing contract of Stave Francis and Luther Head tho)

4.will save room to sign Deke, and either Damon Stoudimre or Darrell Armstong who altho haven't been invited to camp will probley attend(rockets.com)

5.they need one of those 2 PG's unless they want Francis,Head,Aaron Brooks or DJ Strawberry to back up Alston (bad Idea for a team wanting to win now)

6.you'd think they high hopes for Joey Dorsey and know that Chuck hayes can handle minutes

7.They NEED Deke,a non 100% yao,and w/o him there tallest shotblocker is 6-9 Dorsey and Scola,and 6-6 Hayes,and a 6-8 swing man in Battier

8.without counting Deke(UFA),Landry(RFA),Leunen(signed with a team in Turkey) that gives them 14 players

9.Landry would make the Roster limit with 15(inclued Dorsey will sign in a week)

that would mean they'd have to cut 1 to sign deke,2 for deke and one of the 2 vet PG's


*although much of that may not matter,it's still very likley the rockets will match:(

[Muttley]

I really like the effort we're seeing from the FO here. I also think there's a good chance we get him. He may not solve the PF problem, but he at least addresses it. There's no way May goes all 82 this year, so having Landry in place makes that matter less. Less stress on the team to rely on May, but more pressure on May to stay in shape and improve his skills.

[Dead_Real]

I'm with Slam on this one I don't think that added him will boost us into the Offs by any means but it's nothing wrong with adding debth. With that said I still question why we haven't went after Charlie V yet. It's pretty obviously he's had enough with that franchise and it's only going to reach the boiling point soon. With the recent reports about him calling them out (saying the Bucks quit last year) we could probably get him for cheap and I like what he'd bring over Landry. Put Charlie V with a teacher like Larry Brown and he might just breakout who knows.

[tamburello]

Breaking News: Carl Landry Signs Offer Sheet With Bobcats

HOUSTON -- Restricted free agent forward Carl Landry signed an offer sheet with the Charlotte Bobcats, said his agent Buddy Baker in an interview with FOX 26 Sports.

NBA sources told Fox 26 Sports the offer sheet will pay Landry $6 million over two years with a team option for a third season worth $3 million.

Landry, who has played one season with the Rockets, had worked on a one year contract with no option. However, since he is a restricted free agent the Rockets have seven days to match.

"Carl has signed an offer sheet with the Bobcats," Baker said. "Carl feels great about the situation. He thinks the Bobcats are an emerging team.

"Carl appreciates his time in Houston and understands the collective bargaining agreement gives the Rockets seven days to match."

Baker also said his client would have no problem returning to Houston.

"If the Rockets decide to exercise their option, Carl would be equally excited to be with the Rockets," Baker said.

Baker would not divulge terms but did say the offer sheet witth Charlotte will put Landry on par with a high lottery pick.

Landry was taken by the Rockets in the second round of the 2007 NBA draft out of Purdue.

In 42 games last year with the Rockets, Landry averaged 8.1 points per game and 4.9 rebounds per game.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=7505562&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1

[TheBeagle]

He's the only other realistic addition I could think of a month ago. If he ends up a Cat, that will be great news; if not, at least the FO is trying to do the right thing. I'd be really surprised if he's a starter right off the bat, but the depth he could bring would be excellent! Here's hoping.....

[spectre]

Not a bad strategic move. We need depth at the 4 and Landry is about the best left out there...and 2 yr/6 million with a team option on a third year isn't bad at all.

Odds are probably a little better than with Varejao, but not a slam dunk. As many have said it wouldn't be surprising if Houston matched.

[dav7z]

I don't think the Rockets match . With the frunt line talent they have now plus Dorsey. At the very least they will be paying Landry 12 milion for the next two years. Add that two the 73 milion all ready on the books . I can't see them matching though they might. Either way it's a great frunt office move . Geting Landry at a fair price or forcing Huston to to pay six miliom a year to keep him.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/basketball/nba/09/24/landry.rockets.ap/index.html?eref=si_nba

[ohara831]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/6021605.html

Another link to an article this morning. Looks like the Bobcats are really banking on Houston letting him go.

[polarcat]

i loooove this move. young, athletic, lots of energy and will push may. i hope houston doesn't match, but from the replies on that rockets mb, it looks like they feel it's a no-brainer for houston to match. let's hope their gm goes the cheap route and lets landry suit up for the 'cats.

[GoBobs]

If they match we should try to get Deke. Both players would provide good depth but Mt. Mutombo would be a great teacher for your young guys esp AA and Hollins.

[ALong13]

I'm not sure if they'll match or not, I don't want to, but I have a feeling they will....It put them over the salary cap, they'd have to cut more to sign Deke, and I've also heard if they go over the salary cap they don't get any money from Sacramento or NY from previous trades....

I think he could be a good addition and Landry has said he'd be willing to come to Charlotte or go back to Houston....I hope they don't sign him, but I have the feeling they will :-(

[dav7z]

Bonnells take on Landry offer .
I compleatly agree with Bonnell. What happing hear i never agree with Bonnell. But have agreeded with most of his articals post BK.


http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2008/09/bobcats-have-re.html

[Carr bombed]

I don't think the Rockets match . With the frunt line talent they have now plus Dorsey. At the very least they will be paying Landry 12 milion for the next two years. Add that two the 73 milion all ready on the books . I can't see them matching though they might. Either way it's a great frunt office move . Geting Landry at a fair price or forcing Huston to to pay six miliom a year to keep him.

you need to go back and check your math or read up on restricted free agency....

Houston doesn't have to pay Landry 12 million for the next two years....or 6 million a year, all they have to do is MATCH the contract offer that he signed...which Morey will do.

Morey didn't sit on the entire MLE all offseason to let some measly offer pull Landry away (Bobcats actually did us a favor...that's a great contract), plus Morey has already gone on record and said he'll match any offer.....especially one like this, again thanks. He doesn't really care about the LT right now, because we have moves we can make to get back under....even without Landry, Houston already excepted that they would go over the LT and they have 4 1/2 months to get back under it. (just like we did last year) Houston is in "win now" mode, so even in they get caught over the tax for a little bit, I still don't think they'll care.........Landry was our biggest bench player last season and a big reason for our 22 game winning streak, plus the LT problems are for this year only.....contracts come off the books after this season.

[dav7z]

More reason to think Landry will become a Bobcat. Rockets to sign Dorsey to a long term contract. Expect him to sign be for the end of the week.


http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/54531/20080925/rockets_gm_dorsey_is_close_to_signing/#

[Carr bombed]

More reason to think Landry will become a Bobcat. Rockets to sign Dorsey to a long term contract. Expect him to sign be for the end of the week.


http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/54531/20080925/rockets_gm_dorsey_is_close_to_signing/#

He was going to sign regardless......Houston thinks of him as more of a backup 5 (think Ben Wallace), this move actually might spell the end for Mutombo.....he was drafted to provide insurance for both Landry AND Mutombo, you know since Mutombo said last season was his last...there was a little hole there.

The Dorsey doesn't really have any influence on the decision to bring back Landry, like I said Mutombo isn't a spring chicken and Hayes will probably be the odd man out.

[Carr bombed]

Uhh.......Dorsey was drafted to backup Yao incase Mutombo decides to hang them up.......he really has absolutely nothing to do with Landry.

[TheBeagle]

Dude, Landry isn't going to take you guys to the Finals, nor even the conference finals. Hell, you guys can't even get out of the first round. If the solution to this "win now" situation you say your Rockets are in is to re-sign Carl Landry, well, sucks to be you. Then again, with a whiner like T-Bag on your team, you already know it sucks to be a Rockets fan.

Still, as much as I despise T-Bag and the Rockets and how the refs screwed us in both meetings last season, I'm a 'Stros fan, so I'm not hating on H-Town, just the Rockets and their prima donna.

Here's to an unbiased officiated pair of games between our teams this season!

[dav7z]

you need to go back and check your math or read up on restricted free agency....

Houston doesn't have to pay Landry 12 million for the next two years....or 6 million a year, all they have to do is MATCH the contract offer that he signed...which Morey will do.

Morey didn't sit on the entire MLE all offseason to let some measly offer pull Landry away (Bobcats actually did us a favor...that's a great contract), plus Morey has already gone on record and said he'll match any offer.....especially one like this, again thanks. He doesn't really care about the LT right now, because we have moves we can make to get back under....even without Landry, Houston already excepted that they would go over the LT and they have 4 1/2 months to get back under it. (just like we did last year) Houston is in "win now" mode, so even in they get caught over the tax for a little bit, I still don't think they'll care.........Landry was our biggest bench player last season and a big reason for our 22 game winning streak, plus the LT problems are for this year only.....contracts come off the books after this season.


You and i both know signing Landry puts you guys deeper into luxery tax hell.
I don't know weather you guys match or not . Either way we win , we either get Landry or take away flexability from the Rockets . I would be pissed to if another team took away a very nice rotation player from us for nothing. Or forcing us to offer more than we wanted to or could afford. Im sure this contract is frunt loaded making things a lot harder all so for you guys. Morey hasn't matched and with ever passing day it's less chance he does match.
I can see why you don't want to lose Landry . He wil bring a lot to the table to either team . Luxery tax hell is coming into play either move you make.

[Carr bombed]

Dude, Landry isn't going to take you guys to the Finals, nor even the conference finals. Hell, you guys can't even get out of the first round. If the solution to this "win now" situation you say your Rockets are in is to re-sign Carl Landry, well, sucks to be you. Then again, with a whiner like T-Bag on your team, you already know it sucks to be a Rockets fan.

Still, as much as I despise T-Bag and the Rockets and how the refs screwed us in both meetings last season, I'm a 'Stros fan, so I'm not hating on H-Town, just the Rockets and their prima donna.

Here's to an unbiased officiated pair of games between our teams this season!

LMFAO!!! A Bobcats fan talking smack......I'm not even going to waste my time :hysterical:

[Wallace15]

Landry would be an awesome addition for us. He's definitely the best 4 option left out there.

[Carr bombed]

You and i both know signing Landry puts you guys deeper into luxery tax hell.

And again, they already expected to go there......it's the whole reason why they saved the MLE for Landry.


we either get Landry or take away flexability from the Rockets.

Again, you're not taking flexibility away from the Rockets...Morey expected that it'd would take that much to get him in the end (which really isn't that much)....that's why the MLE was saved. He lowballed him because Landry wasn't getting any offers, Landry needed somebody to set the market price for him and y'all just did that......at a VERY reasonable price.


I would be pissed to if another team took away a very nice rotation player from us for nothing. Or forcing us to offer more than we wanted to or could afford.

Again read above...I'm not pissed


Im sure this contract is frunt loaded making things a lot harder all so for you guys.

Doubt it.....the deal is a 2 year 6 mil deal or a 3 year 9 mil deal...at first look it seems pretty cut and dry the deal is about 3 mil per. If it is HEAVILY front loaded (like 5 mil 1st year and 1 mil 2nd year) that would make the contract even more attractable in the long run, because it would help us out in resigning Artest next season.


Morey hasn't matched and with ever passing day it's less chance he does match.

Well then I guess it's great news that he's expected to address this issue later on today.....


I can see why you don't want to lose Landry . He wil bring a lot to the table to either team . Luxery tax hell is coming into play either move you make.

Which is why Houston was already prepared to go there.....again they have 4 1/2 months to get back under and have contracts that they can move to get under of close to the LT line.......after this season they'll be well under.


UPDATE!!!

Oh freaking SNAP

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6021605.html

Again I would like to thank the Bobcats FO for offering such a reasonalbe contract to Landry (I wouldn't be surprised if Morey called them up and told them to throw it out ther with a agreement on other deals later) the Bobcats FO just solved a long holdout with Landry's idiot agent......again thanks and good luck this season.

[caseyh]

The Bobcats have no shot at getting him. Morey has said many many times Landry is going to be a Rocket for a long time. He was a huge part of our 22 game winning streak and also came up big in the playoffs. When Yao went down we thought we have no post players since we had also just traded Bonzi, then Landry came in and did those highlight moves along with 10 foot jumpers EVERY night. Sorry guys

Oh yeah I live in Houston and am a Rockets fan.

[Carr bombed]

Why did my posts get deleted.....I didn't break any kind of agreement and it had the freaking update that Rockets have matched the Bobcats offer in it.

Anyways...here it is....AGAIN.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6021605.html

Thanks Bobcats for the very reasonable offer and good luck this season.

[dav7z]

Why did my posts get deleted.....I didn't break any kind of agreement and it had the freaking update that Rockets have matched the Bobcats offer in it.

Anyways...here it is....AGAIN.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6021605.html

Thanks Bobcats for the very reasonable offer and good luck this season.

Im not so sure the Rockets matched as of yet . It reads to me like the five .four million dollar offer Landry turned down . It doesn't say much about a match .
And if you guys does match it just puts you futher into Tax hell. Hell either way it's a damn good move by the Bobcats. To take your player or put you guys in tax hell..

[caseyh]

. Hell, you guys can't even get out of the first round. If the solution to this "win now" situation you say your Rockets are in is to re-sign Carl Landry, well, sucks to be you. Then again, with a whiner like T-Bag on your team, you already know it sucks to be a Rockets fan.

Here's to an unbiased officiated pair of games between our teams this season!
First off I apologize to all Bobcats fans but I have to respond.

Beagle, You are saying it sucks to be a rockets fan when your team has won 18, 26, 33 and 32 games the last four seasons. How many of these were because the officials got the better of you? As a Texans fan I understand the hurt of a expansion team but I don't go talking crap to Cowboy fans.

[caseyh]

Im not so sure the Rockets matched as of yet . It reads to me like the five .four million dollar offer Landry turned down . It doesn't say much about a match .
And if you guys does match it just puts you futher into Tax hell. Hell either way it's a damn good move by the Bobcats. To take your player or put you guys in tax hell..
Tax hell isn't really accurate. The Knicks are in Tax hell, 3 million would put us a few million over the tax. We started both of the last 2 seasons in this position and shed the salary with midseason trades.

Also at this point any offer that is not a match of the contract, is impossible. Not just cause Landry would be stupid to accept but because he has already signed the contract. The only thing that was ever in doubt was where he would be playing.

[Carr bombed]

Im not so sure the Rockets matched as of yet . It reads to me like the five .four million dollar offer Landry turned down . It doesn't say much about a match .
And if you guys does match it just puts you futher into Tax hell. Hell either way it's a damn good move by the Bobcats. To take your player or put you guys in tax hell..

For the love of god......HOUSTON WAS ALREADY GOING TO GO OVER THE CAP.....INFACT THEY PLANNED FOR IT.....we've been waiting for a team to make a offer so we can get the ball rolling, because Buddy Baker has been a jackass.

Charlette did not "one up" Houston, they planned for this, expected this, put money to the side for this, and have moves that they will make in the future to help out with the LT.

All the Bobcats did was end a long holdout with a very reasonable and friendly contract....that team option is a damn steal....again thanks.

Oh and BTW, Houston did match the contract, we're just waiting for Morey to speak to the press about it.

[dav7z]

Tax hell isn't really accurate. The Knicks are in Tax hell, 3 million would put us a few million over the tax. We started both of the last 2 seasons in this position and shed the salary with midseason trades.

Also at this point any offer that is not a match of the contract, is impossible. Not just cause Landry would be stupid to accept but because he has already signed the contract. The only thing that was ever in doubt was where he would be playing.

What you really saying the Bobcats forced you guys hand . Either you match and end up paying dollar for dollar or give up another piece for nothing by midseason.Or you don't match and we take your player . It's not like you guys are even close to a ring in the west.
Playoff team yes NBA Champions not even close. So if you guys do keep Landry remember the Bobcats just screwed you guys out of SIX milion at least.

[caseyh]

What you really saying the Bobcats forced you guys hand . Either you match and end up paying dollar for dollar or give up another piece for nothing by midseason.Or you don't match and we take your player . It's not like you guys are even close to a ring in the west.
Playoff team yes NBA Champions not even close. So if you guys do keep Landry remember the Bobcats just screwed you guys out of SIX milion at least.
Not really. We were offering around 6 million and thats what we are on the line for right now.

Why would we give up a piece for nothing? We give up expiring contracts which are valuable for other teams to assets. We have over 6 million in expiring contracts. 14 mil if you count Ron Artest.

I have a feeling Landry's agent had this offer from the Bobcats all offseason long and delayed trying to get a better one. None came so they had to take this one before camp starts.

[Carr bombed]

What you really saying the Bobcats forced you guys hand . Either you match and end up paying dollar for dollar or give up another piece for nothing by midseason.Or you don't match and we take your player . It's not like you guys are even close to a ring in the west.
Playoff team yes NBA Champions not even close. So if you guys do keep Landry remember the Bobcats just screwed you guys out of SIX milion at least.

Morey has been WAITING FOR LANDRY TO SIGN A OFFER, he's probably been smiling since last night. You really are sad.

and another thing......Houston is close to a championship, before injuries took their toll they could play with anybody and that was with a team learning a new system under a 1st year head coach and 3 rookies playing key roles (Landry being one of them)...now this team knows the system and those 3 rookies are 2nd year players and now Artest and Brent Barry are added to the group.

Anyways, I really don't want to hear a Bobcats fan, who watches his team lose in the Leastern conference talk about what it takes to win a ring, especially since you were so completely wrong in this thread...."yep Landry is going to the Bobcats and Houston has to pay double the value of the contract that the Bobcats offered". (yeah, that didn't make a damn bit of sense) or how about....."They're signing Dorsey, which means Landry is ours", when Dorsey is expected to be more of a backup 5....you don't know crap about this team and you've proven that over and over.

Houston is probably going to have the best defense in the league next year and we all know where that got Boston....we also now have 2 Kobe stoppers.

I'll just leave it at this.....good luck next year.

[Carr bombed]

Not really. We were offering around 6 million and thats what we are on the line for right now.

Why would we give up a piece for nothing? We give up expiring contracts which are valuable for other teams to assets. We have over 6 million in expiring contracts. 14 mil if you count Ron Artest.

I have a feeling Landry's agent had this offer from the Bobcats all offseason long and delayed trying to get a better one. None came so they had to take this one before camp starts.

There's no point in trying to reason with him........the guy actually thinks his team screwed Houston with that "dreadful" 2y 6mil dollar contract. :rolleyes: LOL I mean, some where Ronny Turiaf is firing his agent.

[caseyh]

Morey has been WAITING FOR LANDRY TO SIGN A OFFER.

I think this is really the point. Unless Landry was willing to accept our semi-lowball offer there was no other way to get a deal other than sign an offer sheet.

The Rockets would not accept any bluff that Team X offered this much. If they offered it then offer it. Otherwise pound sand.

The Bobcats obviously offered more than anyone else int he league would so your team did make a real attempt to improve.

[TheGM]

What you really saying the Bobcats forced you guys hand . Either you match and end up paying dollar for dollar or give up another piece for nothing by midseason.Or you don't match and we take your player . It's not like you guys are even close to a ring in the west.
Playoff team yes NBA Champions not even close. So if you guys do keep Landry remember the Bobcats just screwed you guys out of SIX million at least.
No the Bobcats forced Landry's hand. We have been trying to get him to sign all off season. 2 years/6mill and the third being a team option sounds great to me. As for us not being championship caliber, many would disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion. I just don't consider a Bobcats fan to be experts on championships. Anyway thanks to the Bobcats for helping us take care of Landry.

[dav7z]

I think this is really the point. Unless Landry was willing to accept our semi-lowball offer there was no other way to get a deal other than sign an offer sheet.

The Rockets would not accept any bluff that Team X offered this much. If they offered it then offer it. Otherwise pound sand.

The Bobcats obviously offered more than anyone else int he league would so your team did make a real attempt to improve.

I will agree with you and don't blame you for trying to low ball Landry.
The fact is the offer we made Landry don't break any banks either . You have to addmit it is a smart offer management made. Being you guys are all ready in Luxery tax hell
With Dorsey still left to sign all so you guys have to sign the big man for somthing .
All so i don't see many places you guys can trim the fat again this like last year.
More than likely you will be paying 12 milion for two years of Landrys severices.
Really the kid might be worth that.
If you do find some kind of a offical link to you guys matching ,. How about posting it hear . Good luck in the up coming season either way.

[ziggy]

Why did my posts get deleted.....I didn't break any kind of agreement and it had the freaking update that Rockets have matched the Bobcats offer in it.

Your posts weren't deleted. Anyone with less than 5 posts that uses a URL in their post has that post automatically placed into moderation. After moderation approval that post becomes visible.
This is a precaution to protect the forum from spam... and smug Rockets fans :biggrin:

[tamburello]

Easy everybody. These Rockets fans came here to make some noise and say that they will be champions, so they will do anything for that. They defended their idea, so eventually they are right, they matched our offer (Dave, it's official http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Rockets_To_Match_Offer_For_Car-283207-34.html)

I don't understand why did they continue to try to humiliate us, maybe because they're too excited and it's understandable. For example, I really don't understand why they thanked us. If our offer was so bargain to skip, why didn't Morey signed him for a similar offer anyway? But these are not our problems, their luxury tax problems or well-prepared championship run are none of our business. I wish them good luck, now it's time to move on and look at other options, although I have to admit that Landry was the best and most suitable option left.

PS: We don't have to be a championship caliber team fans in order to make comments about championship caliber teams.

[Carr bombed]

Easy everybody. These Rockets fans came here to make some noise and say that they will be champions, so they will do anything for that. They defended their idea, so eventually they are right, they matched our offer (Dave, it's official http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Rockets_To_Match_Offer_For_Car-283207-34.html)

I don't understand why did they continue to try to humiliate us, maybe because they're too excited and it's understandable. For example, I really don't understand why they thanked us. If our offer was so bargain to skip, why didn't Morey signed him for a similar offer anyway? But these are not our problems, their luxury tax problems or well-prepared championship run are none of our business. I wish them good luck, now it's time to move on and look at other options, although I have to admit that Landry was the best and most suitable option left.

PS: We don't have to be a championship caliber team fans in order to make comments about championship caliber teams.

Nobody was really trying to run smack in this thread.....sorry if it came off that way, but the Bobcats fan started dragging the thread down with his "T-bag" this and "T-bag" that comments...which really had nothing to do with this thread anyways.

Anyways good luck to y'all this season.....sorry if things got a little out of hand.

[Carr bombed]

Your posts weren't deleted. Anyone with less than 5 posts that uses a URL in their post has that post automatically placed into moderation. After moderation approval that post becomes visible.
This is a precaution to protect the forum from spam... and smug Rockets fans :biggrin:

Sorry, my bad. :biggrin:

[ammofan]

So where are we at now at about 6:00 on Thursday night?

Have the Rockets matched or not? I am kinda confused here lol

[TheBeagle]

LMFAO!!! A Bobcats fan talking smack......I'm not even going to waste my time :hysterical:
Oops. Too late; you already did waste your time by making the post. Like Ziggy implied, you came off smug as hell with your pontificating about Landry and the Rockets matching the offer. I could've responded in better taste, but I think as a visitor of another team, you should have a little more respect for the fans here if you're going to post, and not put down our members (Re: dave).

I still maintain my opinions on the prima donna of your team, and the improbability of Landry getting you anywhere near the Finals.

And as for the other Rocket fan, I don't see how it matters who talks "smack" to whom. I don't know that I'd even qualify my opinions as "smack" anyway...McGrady is a certified crybaby, no one can dispute that, and the Rockets have lots and lots and lots of competition in the western conference to get through any round of the playoffs, so viewing the next season or two as "win now" has to suck because it's just not likely at all your team can trapise through the minefield of the western conference. There's more truth in those opinions than smack, I just didn't do it with class. Anyway, wins and losses don't dictate what you say about another team; if you don't like the Cowboys, talk all you want about them. Hell, you've won as many playoff games as they have the last 12 years!!

Until our first meeting of the season, good luck, take care, hope the hurricane didn't harm you or loved ones, and GO ASTROS!!!!!!!! (and down with the Cubs!!)

[davcbow]

Dang I go to Virginia for one day and all hell breaks loose in here...LOL
So Houston matched our offer? I'm just getting home so i haven't had time to read everything..:confused:

[davcbow]

No the Bobcats forced Landry's hand. We have been trying to get him to sign all off season. 2 years/6mill and the third being a team option sounds great to me. As for us not being championship caliber, many would disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion. I just don't consider a Bobcats fan to be experts on championships. Anyway thanks to the Bobcats for helping us take care of Landry.

Hum seems to me Houston hasn't won too much although they did way back when. A lot of us here were Hornets fans until Shinn screwed us... So what makes you an expert?:cool:

[caseyh]

Being you guys are all ready in Luxery tax hell


Again we are not in Lux tax "hell" we are at 2 mil over but we will drop Jackie Butler and have another several million in expiring contracts. We can get trade exceptions from these and easily dump the 1-2 mill to get us under the tax. But really who cares? Its not my money and we are not even close to Mavs or Knicks



With Dorsey still left to sign all so you guys have to sign the big man for somthing .
All so i don't see many places you guys can trim the fat again this like last year.
More than likely you will be paying 12 milion for two years of Landrys severices.


Dorsey is a second round guy. He will not even get a million a year.

And again with all the expiring contracts we have we will not be 6 over the cap for BOTH years of his contract.

Also I am not gloating or thanking anyone here. The Bobcats obviously offered the most cash and like the Rockets have said all along they matched it. No team got over on the other here. This was not a trade or a true free agent, it was a nego. The real loser here is Landry because if he would have just signed with us earlier he would have a much higher chance of getting some minutes this season, it now seems unlikely unless we have an injury or tons of blowouts.

[ammofan]

Heads up.....the Rockets matched.....no landry here :(

[Dead_Real]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDVO9TojsM

MJ get on the phone and try to get this man please.

[peapod]

Carl Landry just resigned with Houston. Oh well...... He would have given us depth at the 4, but likely wouldn't have started. This helps Houston's front line, but ties up their cash.

[GoBobs]

MJ needs to get on the phone and try to make a run at Deke or Zo

[ALong13]

I'm not going to lie, but I may just be the only person that doesn't want Mo or Deke here....Both guys are more defensive centers, and I think we already got the OK50 and Nazr....if we're going to bring in a experienced veteran, I think we need someone that can teach our young kids some post moves and more on the offensive side...

[Mustachio]

I'm not going to lie, but I may just be the only person that doesn't want Mo or Deke here....Both guys are more defensive centers, and I think we already got the OK50 and Nazr....if we're going to bring in a experienced veteran, I think we need someone that can teach our young kids some post moves and more on the offensive side...



Along i agree. Deke would be a terrible terrible acquisition.

Charlie V on the other hand is a little more appealing. I've been gone for awhile though and don't really know what it would take to get him and if it would be worth it. fill me in please.

[Slam]

Along i agree. Deke would be a terrible terrible acquisition.

Charlie V on the other hand is a little more appealing. I've been gone for awhile though and don't really know what it would take to get him and if it would be worth it. fill me in please.
Welcome back!!

CV might be good for us, but that is the problem (same with Frye) - we'd have to give something up to get him. Because of that, I'd rather just hang onto what we have, unless the asking price was crazy low (think Shannon Brown and a 2nd for eg) which wouldn't happen.

[dav7z]

Welcome back Mustachio , Where were you and Slam yesterday when we got invaded with Rockets from hell. We or i sure could have used you guys , LOL .I still say it was a good move by our frunt office making the offer to Landry, if nothing else it put them into the luxery tax . So i give the frount office props for making the move and trying to make the team better at a reasonable price.

[Carr bombed]

Welcome back Mustachio , Where were you and Slam yesterday when we got invaded with Rockets from hell. We or i sure could have used you guys , LOL .I still say it was a good move by our frunt office making the offer to Landry, if nothing else it put them into the luxery tax . So i give the frount office props for making the move and trying to make the team better at a reasonable price.

thanks for that reasonable price......did y'all see what he did tonight, looks like he added a solid jumper to his game. He's kinda like a David West type player....at 3 mil per, he's dirt ass cheap.