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dav7z
11-09-2008, 07:54 PM
I think we should just go a head and trade Felton now . After hearing Larry Browns comets about Felton . I don't think Felton is in the Bobcats long term plans. If thats the case a trade including Felton nets the Bobcats somthing for him other wize we let him go for nothing. Hes either a starter on a bad team or a nice backup on a real good team.
What im saying is he has value and we should take advantege of it.

artical on Browns commets.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2008/11/brown-to-felton.html

What is your thoughts on the artical???

ammofan
11-09-2008, 08:08 PM
No. Felton is waaaaay better now then he ever has been and Augustin looks shaky to me.

Slam
11-09-2008, 08:09 PM
Felts is doing exactly what LB has asked him to do and is letting his game do the talking. Apart for the Cavs game (when he was HORRIBLE) Felts has been doing well.

Why change that unless he can bring in a "no brainer" type trade?

spectre
11-09-2008, 08:16 PM
I guess I read that different than you did Dav; I saw it as LB concerned that Felton (and us) would take Jordan's comments the wrong way so he attempted to clarify.

Ignore the distractions, play well and everyone will be bidding for you.

Besides...is it expected for us to play the rest of the season with just DJ?

ammofan
11-09-2008, 08:22 PM
Besides...is it expected for us to play the rest of the season with just DJ?

Well if we were to trade him i am sure we would ask for a big and a little in return....

DirtyU11
11-09-2008, 08:26 PM
Well if we were to trade him i am sure we would ask for a big and a little in return....

Exactly, Ray for Frye and Rodriguez

SWedd523
11-09-2008, 08:57 PM
Exactly, Ray for Frye and Rodriguez

I like Felton+Augustin wayyyyyyy more than Augustin+Rodriguez

I've been on the Felton bandwagon forever and can't see us making a trade like ^^^ when he can keep getting better and keep our depth at the PG spot.

Our 2 PG rotation has even looked good. I don't want us trading Felton until we KNOW Augustin is ready to step in and take the helm.

BobcatsAllDay
11-09-2008, 09:08 PM
The trade is coming, I have no reason to believe it's not. I just hope these guys are better after the trade is made. I became a Bobcat fan when they drafted this guy so it will be hard to see him go but that's the way it goes. I hate it for guys like Crash and Ray, it has to be hard to play for an organization that clearly doesn't "want" you, however you must show up to work ready to go. This business is rough...

dnbman
11-09-2008, 09:21 PM
The announcers reported that Brown's pregame comments on the Raptors were they were going to struggle with depth at point guard. Since he said that, why do you think he wants to trade Felton? Unless he's getting a good point guard in return, he'd be contradicting his own analysis on what a team needs to be successful.

My take on the situation: much had been written and said about Felton's perceived short comings as a point guard. Brown knew he needed at least one point guard, if not two, who could run the show, especially with a young, developing team. Thus, Brown picks the closest thing in the draft to a true point guard.

Now he's got what he wants: two guys who give his team different looks. Augustine is more of a shooter and scorer. Felton is tougher and a better defender. At this point, Felton has been controlling the offense better than Augustine. I think Brown is probably happy with the development of these guys in the regular season, but needs to see a lot more from both to solidify either as the point guard of the future for the team. Of course, Augustine has the advantage of being Brown's pick and a rookie, allowing a much wider margin for error, rightfully so. However, Felton could easily emerge as the better of the two for the next couple of years, if not over the life of their careers.

Of course, if they're both great point guards, we probably couldn't afford to pay them both. However, it doesn't make sense to trade Felton now since he seems to be adapting and playing pretty well. We'd lose point guard depth, one of our only reliable positions right now, and be trying to teach a new system to a bunch of guys using a rookie point guard.

Unless we get absolutely better in a trade (like a clear starting caliber power forward), I think it makes zero sense to trade Felton.

BobcatsAllDay
11-09-2008, 09:49 PM
The announcers reported that Brown's pregame comments on the Raptors were they were going to struggle with depth at point guard. Since he said that, why do you think he wants to trade Felton? Unless he's getting a good point guard in return, he'd be contradicting his own analysis on what a team needs to be successful.

My take on the situation: much had been written and said about Felton's perceived short comings as a point guard. Brown knew he needed at least one point guard, if not two, who could run the show, especially with a young, developing team. Thus, Brown picks the closest thing in the draft to a true point guard.

Now he's got what he wants: two guys who give his team different looks. Augustine is more of a shooter and scorer. Felton is tougher and a better defender. At this point, Felton has been controlling the offense better than Augustine. I think Brown is probably happy with the development of these guys in the regular season, but needs to see a lot more from both to solidify either as the point guard of the future for the team. Of course, Augustine has the advantage of being Brown's pick and a rookie, allowing a much wider margin for error, rightfully so. However, Felton could easily emerge as the better of the two for the next couple of years, if not over the life of their careers.

Of course, if they're both great point guards, we probably couldn't afford to pay them both. However, it doesn't make sense to trade Felton now since he seems to be adapting and playing pretty well. We'd lose point guard depth, one of our only reliable positions right now, and be trying to teach a new system to a bunch of guys using a rookie point guard.

Unless we get absolutely better in a trade (like a clear starting caliber power forward), I think it makes zero sense to trade Felton.

Could not agree more. Hope that's the mind set of the FO too.

BRNC
11-09-2008, 10:02 PM
If we make a trade I still think it will be a wing or combo wings trade...I do not see us trading either PG this season...all the "crap" on the net about Curry is NY writer dreams since LB did not play Curry in NY and we don't need a 5...we need a 4...and we're heavy with wings to trade for a 4 not heavy with PGs!

dav7z
11-09-2008, 10:25 PM
I guess I read that different than you did Dav; I saw it as LB concerned that Felton (and us) would take Jordan's comments the wrong way so he attempted to clarify.

Ignore the distractions, play well and everyone will be bidding for you.

Besides...is it expected for us to play the rest of the season with just DJ?


I kinda took what MJ had said and the Comments hear of Brown and put them toghter . Felton is my favorite Bobcat by far. And i guess what im hearing is this. This is Felts last year as a Bobcat . No big contract coming DJ is the point of the fucture. If we have no plans to resign him why not trade him and get value for him. If we have plans thet last longer than the rest of this season for him then Yes by all means keep him. If the FO don't have plans for him the why not trade him for say a Frye and a Rodriguz. Or get somthing of value for him . We can't just let him walk at the end of the season for nothing. And like some one else said we can't afford two big point contracts in Felton and DJ.

dnbman
11-09-2008, 10:33 PM
I kinda took what MJ had said and the Comments hear of Brown and put them toghter . Felton is my favorite Bobcat by far. And i guess what im hearing is this. This is Felts last year as a Bobcat . No big contract coming DJ is the point of the fucture. If we have no plans to resign him why not trade him and get value for him. If we have plans thet last longer than the rest of this season for him then Yes by all means keep him. If the FO don't have plans for him the why not trade him for say a Frye and a Rodriguz. Or get somthing of value for him . We can't just let him walk at the end of the season for nothing. And like some one else said we can't afford two big point contracts in Felton and DJ.

He'll be a restricted FO. We'd still have some cards to play if Felton has a great year and demands a big contract. In fact, we may decide to keep him, determining Augustine's status after his rookie contract is up. We don't have to trade him now in order to get value for him. In fact, his value will probably only increase if he keeps playing well and improving. Putting up good numbers is one thing. Putting up good point guard numbers and running Larry Brown's system is quite another. If coaches know that Felton can be successful under Brown, they'll pine for him.

As for trading, Frye is nowhere near a sure fire starting PF. True, he's better than what we have now. However, we could probably acquire him cheaper than giving up our starting pg, sacrificing our pg depth and turning the team over to a rookie pg to boot.

BobcatsAllDay
11-09-2008, 11:00 PM
I would love to see him stay but w/ two young guys at PG. There WILL be a point in time where both guys think they should be driving this car. The 2 PG system almost never works (see Toronto Ford & Calderon), and if this gets to the point where the coach wants one and FO wants the other guy it could get out of hand. I say assess the PG around the trade deadline and go from there. We already have Wallace w/ trade rumors circulating too much no need to add another to the frey. IMO, get it done or keep it moving (see the Knicks...although I could never see our "problems" reaching that level).

docend24
11-10-2008, 09:16 AM
The only reason would be if we can lost him after the season. But we have a qualifying offer, don't we?

spectre
11-10-2008, 09:54 AM
The only reason would be if we can lost him after the season. But we have a qualifying offer, don't we?

Nah, but we can match any offer (restricted free agent).


Well if we were to trade him i am sure we would ask for a big and a little in return....

Quantity NEVER trumps quality. If anyone's disappointed now (which kind of confounds me; IMO our PGs have been the brightest thing so far this season) wait'll you run with a DJ/Marcus Williams rotation.

Ghost Kat
11-11-2008, 07:13 PM
The reason why the PG battle has been so bright is cuz Felton is the only one with a respectable backup. I'm totally against trading Felton this year unless he brings in a PF that can score and rebound. Other then that there's no reason to think about getting rid of him till it's contract time.

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 07:49 PM
i'm not sure what the problem is with felton

he's playing at the same level he was in college, if not slightly better.

he's development has not been as fast as i hoped. but is it really his fault ? give me a break..this is his THIRD coach, he hasn't even been able to adjust to one offensive system. we've never had an inside presence like he did with sean may in college. and until last year, he didn't have a 3 pt shooter like mccants he can pass to.

so explain me what DJ will bring to the table that felton isn't? trading felton is a terrible idea.

DanielWheeler
11-12-2008, 12:36 AM
Depends on what Larry Brown has in mind for the future of Felton. If he's moving on with Augustin after this year, then it would be ignorance from the Bobcats organization to let him walk without nothing in return, but if they want him...why trade him?