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ziggy
11-11-2008, 09:22 AM
Tonight at the cable box we have the Denver Nuggets coming to town. The Nuggets have looked good since they traded AI for Billups, they won their last two games and are currently 3-3. Despite that, If we can play as well as we've played in spots then I think that this is a very winnable game.

No word on whether Sean May and his 52 inch waistband will finally be activated for tonight's game.

If you'd like to spy on the competition check out: http://nuggdoctor.blogspot.com/ or http://www.pickaxeandroll.com/


So what do you guys think, Are we going to get a win tonight? Any BCP folk going?

bing!
11-11-2008, 12:17 PM
Well, let's see, in past two games the Nuggets have averaged 3.5 3pt FGs per game on a less than stellar .250 shooting, so I'm thinkinkg if Emeka and the rest of the inside crew can keep the paint clogged and Carmelo-free it's a sure win. This is one game where I think that post defense consisting of Emeka, Sean and (potentially) Eddy ::chills:: would prove to be adequate.

Chauncey is also cold with the FGs, shooting only 7 of 30, so keepin' him out of the lanes should be a priority (seein' as he went 13 of 15 from the charity line), and let's hope Carmelo gets food poisoning or something in that milieu.

amour217
11-11-2008, 12:49 PM
Tonight at the cable box we have the Denver Nuggets coming to town. The Nuggets have looked good since they traded AI for Billups, they won their last two games and are currently 3-3. Despite that, If we can play as well as we've played in spots then I think that this is a very winnable game.

No word on whether Sean May and his 52 inch waistband will finally be activated for tonight's game.

If you'd like to spy on the competition check out: http://nuggdoctor.blogspot.com/ or http://www.pickaxeandroll.com/


So what do you guys think, Are we going to get a win tonight? Any BCP folk going?

LOL Ziggy, your mentioning of "nuggets looking good" and "sean may" in the same post have cracked me up. Hooray for unintentional lolers

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/amour217/PottyBook.jpg

Hormel
11-11-2008, 02:17 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/amour217/PottyBook.jpg
http://img33.picoodle.com/data/img33/3/8/21/f_n6649996205m_5d1963d.jpg


as far as the game goes. Meh wouldn't this have been more fun if AI was still a nugget? Prediction, I have us losing by 15+ , just to much over there versus us

amour217
11-11-2008, 02:50 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/amour217/Carter-2.jpg

ziggy
11-11-2008, 02:56 PM
LOL Ziggy, your mentioning of "nuggets looking good" and "sean may" in the same post have cracked me up. Hooray for unintentional lolers

The Nuggets are looking good, Chauncey Billups has been knocking down his share of floaters and we need to make sure that Kenyon Martin doesn't flush one down on us.

I have a gift for toilet humor :biggrin:

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 02:56 PM
This could go either way hopefully our D will look more like it did against the Hornets and not the Raps. I believe Gerald Wallace's slump will end and he's in for a huge game the same goes for Ammo if he gets more PT.

To bad this is blacked out :mad:

WarioVsMooChicken
11-11-2008, 03:02 PM
Isn't today the last day for the free NBA LP?

amour217
11-11-2008, 03:04 PM
The Nuggets are looking good, Chauncey Billups has been knocking down his share of floaters and we need to make sure that Kenyon Martin doesn't flush one down on us.

I have a gift for toilet humor :biggrin:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/amour217/warrior-hogan2.gif

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 03:11 PM
Isn't today the last day for the free NBA LP?

Your right :biggrin:

LMAO at that Hogan/ultimate warrior gif

Chef
11-11-2008, 04:21 PM
the ref adds so much to that clip. it could be a wwf match or just a scene from your local public park bathhouse.

drunkbum
11-11-2008, 06:43 PM
May is active..... wonder how much he will play

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 06:53 PM
The game is on TV for me check your FSN South channel

League Pass blacked out the game for some reason.

bozzy
11-11-2008, 06:55 PM
The game is on TV for me check your FSN South channel

That is great for you and the 3 other people who are able to get it. :)

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 06:58 PM
That is great for you and the 3 other people who are able to get it. :)
It shocked me they have shown the last 4 games (not including the Raps one) I think TWC got their act together.

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 07:01 PM
I'm thinking this one is a close one...

the bookies have Denver at -2.5

WarioVsMooChicken
11-11-2008, 07:02 PM
Not on LP due to blackout. I'm gonna check TV >.>

Hormel
11-11-2008, 07:02 PM
TWC has shown almsot every game for me, I'm pretty happy with what I've got to watch this year

Shrimpy_Jackson
11-11-2008, 07:04 PM
Still no luck here, anyone able to find anything online? Haven't seen anything yet.

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 07:04 PM
*Prays Melo doesn't pull a Bosh on us tonight*

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 07:05 PM
The game is on TV for me check your FSN South channel

League Pass blacked out the game for some reason.

all bobcats games are going to be blacked out on league pass for NC / SC i think or at least if you're in within the viewing area (50 miles i think?)

WarioVsMooChicken
11-11-2008, 07:06 PM
it's on FS!

OMGMGMGMGMG

spectre
11-11-2008, 07:07 PM
http://www.justin.tv/regionalsportsjoe

Shrimpy_Jackson
11-11-2008, 07:09 PM
Bah beat me too it Spectre!

spectre
11-11-2008, 07:10 PM
so long as someone finds it Shrimpy! maybe we get to see the entire game this time?

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 07:12 PM
Mek went to MJ's barber

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 07:15 PM
any explanation why mekas shots always get blocked

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 07:21 PM
Getting some early looks but shots just aren't falling but that should change since Ammo is about to check in

Marvel
11-11-2008, 07:23 PM
any explanation why mekas shots always get blocked


For 1 he has hardly any lift/elevation when he's being bodied up so when there is contact he's out of whack which forces him into tough/bad shots which inadvertantly ends up getting swatted.2 he hardly ever fakes and has bad footwork/placement.3 he does the same frickin shot,a right handed hook which also looks ugly, out of whack

Hormel
11-11-2008, 07:26 PM
any explanation why mekas shots always get blocked
http://i38.tinypic.com/35hhjdc.jpg
Because my pic is more fierce then him ?

Marvel
11-11-2008, 07:28 PM
The Cats look more cohesive in this game nice nice nice

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 07:29 PM
Heating up on O with Ammo on the floor

Hormel
11-11-2008, 07:29 PM
Hope J Rich is ok
the only person on the court who can tan, really needs one

Ghost Kat
11-11-2008, 07:29 PM
Thanks for putting up the link...

dnbman
11-11-2008, 07:30 PM
Look OUt: Morrison is a baller!

Dlpz87
11-11-2008, 07:30 PM
1)I'm pretty sure my 140lb brother could block Okafor. It's the same number of steps and shooting hand every time. And there's never a fake. He might mix it up sometimes, but really, he needs to vary it a lot more.

2)Is Adam Morrison actually playing...dare I say it?...Defense? His mind wanders a bit, but he's not looking too bad.

3)I can't wait to see what Stay Puff Sean does, if he does anything..

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 07:30 PM
Hope J Rich is ok
the only person on the court who can tan, really needs one
That elbow to the face pissed him off came back and hit three 3 pointers :biggrin:

WarioVsMooChicken
11-11-2008, 07:31 PM
Morrison has been doing some nice passing lately.

Marvel
11-11-2008, 07:32 PM
Need a good game from J-Rich tonight and defensive stops in the 2nd half

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 07:33 PM
i'm surprised to see the frenchie in the game right now

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 07:33 PM
Get Dudley off of Melo please

Not in Lex house haha

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 07:34 PM
WOHOO that might be the biggest play frenchie has made so far........could this mean meka moving to the 4 and frenchie taking over...??

Dlpz87
11-11-2008, 07:34 PM
Rejection! Twice! Hot damn, that gets my piss hot!

Hormel
11-11-2008, 07:34 PM
http://neworleanscitybusiness.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/french-fries.jpg
thats one big frenchie

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 07:35 PM
i thought wallace would be guarding carmelo

Alex
11-11-2008, 07:39 PM
http://neworleanscitybusiness.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/french-fries.jpg
thats one big frenchie

oh i hate you for posting that. now i'm starving.

we look good so far but let's be honest, it doesn't even look like the nuggets are trying. i hope our intensity continues in the 3rd and 4th when the nuggets will undoubtedly raise theirs.

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 07:40 PM
frenchie still struggles to react quickly and block the line, try to draw an offensive foul...doesn't have the defensive awareness, he gets kinda lost sometimes, glad to see him get some minutes though

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 07:41 PM
oh i hate you for posting that. now i'm starving.

we look good so far but let's be honest, it doesn't even look like the nuggets are trying. i hope our intensity continues in the 3rd and 4th when the nuggets will undoubtedly raise theirs.

i think we are doing a really good job right now...not so much that they aren't trying

Marvel
11-11-2008, 07:41 PM
Morrison looking back in form found his rhythm

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 07:45 PM
Ammo's little floater is greatness.

Dlpz87
11-11-2008, 07:45 PM
The tear drop of his is looking good...that does take some skill.

Frenchie didn't do too bad..

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 07:46 PM
i think we are doing a really good job right now...not so much that they aren't trying

Yep playing great D and Melo isn't on the floor lol.

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 07:46 PM
agreed....even if he's not penetrating the basket and making dunks, that floater can really help us when we are playing undersized

Alex
11-11-2008, 07:46 PM
Ammo is playing with great confidence right now! That long pass to Crash was money but sadly he missed.

Marvel
11-11-2008, 07:48 PM
Man now why didn't Wallace dunk that

Shrimpy_Jackson
11-11-2008, 07:48 PM
Is it wrong to have a boner for Larry Brown? I think it's been said before but at times and although it's very early this team looks better than any previous Cats team I can remember in terms of ball movement and D. They just look crisper if that makes sense.

spectre
11-11-2008, 07:51 PM
Is it wrong to have a boner for Larry Brown? I think it's been said before but at times and although it's very early this team looks better than any previous Cats team I can remember in terms of ball movement and D. They just look crisper if that makes sense.

hard to beat that for post of the night!

Dlpz87
11-11-2008, 07:54 PM
Well, don't get too excited just yet. Ray Ray and Matt are doing their damn best to forget ball movement at the moment.

Alex
11-11-2008, 07:54 PM
Is it wrong to have a boner for Larry Brown? I think it's been said before but at times and although it's very early this team looks better than any previous Cats team I can remember in terms of ball movement and D. They just look crisper if that makes sense.

100%. Even when we lose games, it's hard to feel as disappointed as we all felt in the past when we lost because no matter how badly we lost there is always something good to take away from the loss it seems.

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Wallace and Emeka go out of the game with 2 fouls each and the lead goes from 10 to 4 in what seemed like 5 seconds.

davcbow
11-11-2008, 07:55 PM
Is it wrong to have a boner for Larry Brown? I think it's been said before but at times and although it's very early this team looks better than any previous Cats team I can remember in terms of ball movement and D. They just look crisper if that makes sense.

The feed at www.channelsurfing.net is aot better feed than at www.justin.tv
but the only problem I see with the cats tonight is they give up way too many 3 pointers to the opposition....:cool:

Hormel
11-11-2008, 07:56 PM
Is it wrong to have a boner for Larry Brown? I think it's been said before but at times and although it's very early this team looks better than any previous Cats team I can remember in terms of ball movement and D. They just look crisper if that makes sense.
http://i33.tinypic.com/23wjv3a.jpg

davcbow
11-11-2008, 07:58 PM
What the heck is Dud's doing shooting a long perimeter shot? :cool:

BobCatsFanInTx
11-11-2008, 07:59 PM
At what point this season does the Bobcats learn to play with a lead? At what point does this team stop opposing shooters from shooting lights out behind the arc?

davcbow
11-11-2008, 08:01 PM
The feed at www.channelsurfing.net (http://www.channelsurfing.net/) is aot better feed than at www.justin.tv (http://www.justin.tv/)

Shrimpy_Jackson
11-11-2008, 08:02 PM
Hahaha Hormel that was beautiful, and nice thanks for the link Davo!

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 08:04 PM
Damn 3 fouls on J-Rich

Dlpz87
11-11-2008, 08:09 PM
If Ammo keeps up this off-the-bench scoring, I see no problem giving him more burn..he's not such a revolving door now either...

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 08:10 PM
Shannon Brown can't get past Billups to save his life.

Hormel
11-11-2008, 08:11 PM
http://www.nba.com/features/images/hands22.gif
god knows how many of these we've had these year

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 08:12 PM
we will learn to hold the lead when we learn that when we have the lead we don't need to take stupid outside shots like we were a second ago..move the ball around, set your plays, take your time..if we take outside shots and they are not falling, then any team with a decent transition offense is going to run us over

i get nervous when i see that this game is being played at a higher tempo that at the first quarter..

davcbow
11-11-2008, 08:19 PM
Yep the 3 point shot is our worst enemy, we take too may of them and we miss too many of them and we allow too many of them from the other teams...

Hormel
11-11-2008, 08:29 PM
4 fouls on J rich and we're loseing our lead =/

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 08:29 PM
put ammo back in the game

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 08:30 PM
Nice pass Felts

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 08:33 PM
Damn 4 on both Richardson and Felton.

Hormel
11-11-2008, 08:34 PM
http://thumbnail.search.aolcdn.com/truveo/images/thumbnails/87/55/8755BF3824BB9F_Large.jpg
we had the Nuggets where we wanted them
AND WE LET THEM OFF THE HOOk
Felts 4 Fouls
J Rich 4 Fouls
Oakabore 3 Fouls
:'{

Alex
11-11-2008, 08:36 PM
once again, playing like crap in the quarters that matter.

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 08:41 PM
Our guys getting banged up like hell tonight but were the ones in foul trouble...

Marvel
11-11-2008, 08:43 PM
Morrison has whack handles

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 08:45 PM
Morrison has whack handles
So does everyone else on our squad not named DJ and Raymond.

Melo killing us.

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 08:45 PM
too many outside shots again....we are really struggling without a good center or PF

im not a fan of wallace's 3pt shots...glad to see he made that one though

dnbman
11-11-2008, 08:45 PM
Wallace with the three, steal, and dunk to spark the comeback!

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 08:50 PM
Melo about to go for 44 like he promised to do last week.

Alex
11-11-2008, 08:50 PM
so who's denying my post about the nuggets not trying now? all of a sudden their hands are in the air and they're running around all over the place on defense and we're down 8.

ALong13
11-11-2008, 08:53 PM
Some of these fouls and turnovers are pissing me off...some horrible passes, horrible defense, and some stupid fouls...

And did anyone see the one line-up Brown just had in?

DJ, Carroll, Morrison, Duds, & Wallace? Talk about a small line-up...we need a big rally tho...

-------------------------------------------

Down 9 after 3...we can still win, but we've put ourself in a much harder position...Carmelo and all them FT killed us that quarter...and J.R. Smith got a lucky shot at the end :-/

Hormel
11-11-2008, 08:55 PM
so who's denying my post about the nuggets not trying now? all of a sudden their hands are in the air and they're running around all over the place on defense and we're down 8.
I don't think they got any better, I just think we got in some deep foul trouble. The way we were playing the first half, we're still in this one

davcbow
11-11-2008, 08:55 PM
That was some pitiful play in the 3rd quarter, now down by 9.... This wreaks...:cool:

spectre
11-11-2008, 08:55 PM
We've just lured them into a false sense of complacency. Swish and Felts will come back and we'll take back control in the 4th.

Sounds good anyway.

Alex
11-11-2008, 08:56 PM
oh god, may in to start the 4th. there goes the game...

Marvel
11-11-2008, 08:57 PM
Yep the 3 point shot is our worst enemy, we take too may of them and we miss too many of them and we allow too many of them from the other teams...


The number 3 in general is our worst enemy,3 pointers,3rd quarters, 33 wins best record wtf is goin on here

Hormel
11-11-2008, 08:57 PM
Oh god disregard my post, Sean May is on the court

Mustachio
11-11-2008, 08:58 PM
can someone please do an analysis of the point differential with Matt Carroll in the game... because i bet money its bad news.

ALong13
11-11-2008, 08:58 PM
Saw some overweight dude come in and completely miss the shot and realized it was May...well lets see if his weeks off have done anything...

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 08:58 PM
so who's denying my post about the nuggets not trying now? all of a sudden their hands are in the air and they're running around all over the place on defense and we're down 8.
Their best players were on the bench as soon as they returned they started to cut the lead because Melo started to heat up and can't be stopped. Not to mention the foul trouble which has obviously took away our defensive intensity we played with in the first half.

Felts with 5 now :mad:

ALong13
11-11-2008, 09:01 PM
Well May's already out...Our PG are both having a bad game, Okafor hasn't had a great game from what I've seen...really need someone to spark...

docend24
11-11-2008, 09:02 PM
Wow, garbage time already at the start of the last quarter. Sean May on court.

G-Force for MVP
11-11-2008, 09:03 PM
bobcats need a true 7 footer

Marvel
11-11-2008, 09:05 PM
Carroll's ineffiency is at -17 ok so from what i understand this is why we got J-Rich to close out a game for us.So this is his time to show and prove,the only players with + in efficiency are Okafor and Morrison

ALong13
11-11-2008, 09:06 PM
Honestly I say if Brown is going to start putting up garbage minutes its time for Andre Brown, Alexis Ajinca, & May get some time...yes I said May...guess I'm hoping he'll realize he needs to get better...

At least Morrison's hot tonight...

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 09:08 PM
bobcats need Melo or Chris Bosh
Fixed for accuracy...

J-Rich showing up in the 4th good sign

ALong13
11-11-2008, 09:08 PM
Back within 2....can we complete the comeback?

Alex
11-11-2008, 09:09 PM
"hey guys, who wants some fresh biscuits?"

hahaha, i love that commercial

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JRICH IN DA HOUSE!

Hormel
11-11-2008, 09:09 PM
I was skeptical of the Larry Brown hire, but over the past week or so two things have became very clear to me
A)Our team just doesn't have much talent
B)Our team plays hard for Larry Brown
I honestly hope Larry Brown is here for at least 3 years

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:11 PM
so who's denying my post about the nuggets not trying now? all of a sudden their hands are in the air and they're running around all over the place on defense and we're down 8.

the difference was that we weren't playing the style of game that makes us look good..we were settling for outside shots

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:13 PM
DAMMIT..we are doing the same crap that put us 10 pts behind

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 09:14 PM
Mek with 5 blocks 9 overall for the team wow.

Hormel
11-11-2008, 09:14 PM
DAMMIT..we are doing the same crap that put us 10 pts behind
That's Adam Morrison's shot, I'm happy with him taking that shot 10/10 times

Alex
11-11-2008, 09:16 PM
they give us hope then they take it away with a bazillion bad possessions in a row. Ladies and gentlemen, the Charlotte Bobcats!

Alex
11-11-2008, 09:17 PM
PG play is killing us in this game. We also have no inside game what so ever.

Marvel
11-11-2008, 09:17 PM
That's game what a screw up trade trade trade trade trade trade trade trade trade trade trade,big big big big big big big big big big.Why oh why didn't we get Roy or Gay in that draft :mad:

ALong13
11-11-2008, 09:17 PM
Okafor is having a great game defensively 5 blocks and a steal, but offensively its dissappointing...2 points? Felton has 5 fouls so you can't keep him in too long or play tight D with him, DJ gets in and DJ turnover the ball a few times tonight, plus his D isn't that great...Carroll who played great defensively against the hornets is playing horribly tonight...

Mustachio
11-11-2008, 09:18 PM
That's Adam Morrison's shot, I'm happy with him taking that shot 10/10 times


yeah but he has to hit that shot. wide ass open.

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:19 PM
That's Adam Morrison's shot, I'm happy with him taking that shot 10/10 times

i wasn't refering to Ammo's shot..that was a good play

but just look at what DJ did, completely unnecessary..why take a 3 pt right now

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:21 PM
nevermind....

Alex
11-11-2008, 09:24 PM
$72 million so he can attempt 5 shots and when will this team learn that games are won in the second half in the NBA?

kill me now...

Marvel
11-11-2008, 09:24 PM
yeah but he has to hit that shot. wide ass open.

Exactly if he hit 8-10 of those good sweet as

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:26 PM
it kills me...now when we are down 8 pts we try to drive in and try to make the 3pt play..why didnt we do this when we are down by 6

ALong13
11-11-2008, 09:26 PM
Balkman is killing us tonight as well...a 6 ppg scorer and he now has 15...

Alex
11-11-2008, 09:28 PM
major trades, now, please. i can't take much more of this.

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:28 PM
was it me or did LB just walked away , no handshakes?

Hormel
11-11-2008, 09:29 PM
We're not a very talented team, it's that simple. We haven't made good draft choices, and we don't have the market that makes free agents want to come here. Larry Brown is getting the best out of what we got, but you can't make a gallon of orange juice out of one orange. Good showing in my opinion tonight, keep trucking Bobcats!

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 09:30 PM
Brown looked pissed the fuck off can't blame him we have to get that fall apart when the game is on the line mentality far away from our team.

ohara831
11-11-2008, 09:30 PM
34 pts the entire 2nd half. Just horrid. FG % sucked.

G-Force for MVP
11-11-2008, 09:32 PM
trade matt caroll hes the same as adam morrison get williams and hassell then trade ray felton

davcbow
11-11-2008, 09:33 PM
We are inconsistent as hell all I can say about it... be up by 10 and lose by 8,, geeze... :cool:

Hormel
11-11-2008, 09:33 PM
trade matt caroll hes the same as adam morrison get williams and hassell then trade ray felton
We're you not watching the same game as me? or do you just look at the stat sheets? The offense just doesn't move with DJ in the lineup atm

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:34 PM
when we are down by 6 we are missing someone to give us interior scoring to provide us with a higher percentage shot..we have go to get a trade going if we want to win this season..

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:35 PM
We're you not watching the same game as me? or do you just look at the stat sheets? The offense just doesn't move with DJ in the lineup atm

agreed..felton IS NOT the problem here..that is a terrible idea, i'm tired of hearing that we should trade felton. there's a reason why we struggled when felton was on the bench

Dead_Real
11-11-2008, 09:36 PM
We're you not watching the same game as me? or do you just look at the stat sheets? The offense just doesn't move with DJ in the lineup atm

When in doubt blame Felts and start the rookie who he has been outplaying...

G-Force for MVP
11-11-2008, 09:37 PM
how bout this felton and dj both suck

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:39 PM
how bout this felton and dj both suck

explain what are your expections of felton as a PG playing under LB..what should he be doing that he isn't

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:41 PM
also..when was the last time LB said anything about PG being terrible. our problem is lack of a big man who is good offensively and defensively. okafor is not a great offensive player

spectre
11-11-2008, 09:41 PM
I'll say one thing...both PGs are shooting way more than I thought would be allowed in a Larry Brown offense. Of course most of the time none of the wings can hit a shot either, so I guess that's just LB running with the hand he's been dealt.

It's gonna take a while for both PGs to get this system down...and even longer to drag the rest of the team with them.

Until then...small victories.

G-Force for MVP
11-11-2008, 09:42 PM
i already said many times oak is not a true center

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:45 PM
I'll say one thing...both PGs are shooting way more than I thought would be allowed in a Larry Brown offense. Of course most of the time none of the wings can hit a shot either, so I guess that's just LB running with the hand he's been dealt.

It's gonna take a while for both PGs to get this system down...and even longer to drag the rest of the team with them.

Until then...small victories.

i agree that the PG are taking too many outside shots..

but in all honestly i see that felton is trying really hard to play with what he has. he is trying to drive the ball in without any inside presence ..he's doing a good job of distributing the ball

Hormel
11-11-2008, 09:46 PM
also..when was the last time LB said anything about PG being terrible. our problem is lack of a big man who is good offensively and defensively. okafor is not a great offensive player
The problem is we're manning a college basketball team in the NBA.

Jason Richardson can not be your best offensive player.
Gerald Wallace has to be your 3rd or more best offensive player.
Oka4 is not a nba center or power forward
May is fat
Morrison still cant put the ball on the court
Dj is short
Dudley can not start for your team.
We have a small market.
No one knows the Bobcats are even in the league.

Larry Brown is doing the absolute best he can, no one trade is going to put us into the playoffs. And if we don't have a lottery pick next year, we don't even get our draft pick

ammofan
11-11-2008, 09:47 PM
why are some of you all mad a Morrison?????? He scored more tha Felton, Wallace, and carroll combined. He and J-Rich were THE ONLY bright spots i this game. Mek sucks, GW sucks, DJ is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD. Yeah he is a rookie but he is not good.......

We need atrade quick. We cant let this trade slip away this early. This is the second straight game we have let slip out of hand in the second half.

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:49 PM
optional day off?? buttercup better be the gym tomorrow burning off some fat

davcbow
11-11-2008, 09:51 PM
i agree that the PG are taking too many outside shots..

but in all honestly i see that felton is trying really hard to play with what he has. he is trying to drive the ball in without any inside presence ..he's doing a good job of distributing the ball

Well whats the deal with Dud's being out on the perimeter trying to put up a long ball? That was the ugliest shot I ever saw...:cool:

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 09:52 PM
why are some of you all mad a Morrison?????? He scored more tha Felton, Wallace, and carroll combined. He and J-Rich were THE ONLY bright spots i this game. Mek sucks, GW sucks, DJ is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD. Yeah he is a rookie but he is not good.......

We need atrade quick. We cant let this trade slip away this early. This is the second straight game we have let slip out of hand in the second half.

i'm definitely not criticizing he did well no just in the pts section..but driving the ball in and passing it, he made some good passes

from the PC brown seemed pleased with his performance

ammofan
11-11-2008, 09:53 PM
Morrison still cant put the ball on the court


I gotta defend adam here.....let me ask you a question.
Did Morrison put the ball on the floor well in college? Yes he did. he put up 28.5 ppg. Yeah it was college but his game is an NBA game. He can put the ball on the floor just as well as any similar player to him ala Dirk Nowitzki or Hedo Turkoglu. all he needs to do is takes two dribbles then either pull up hit a runner or pass the ball. And thats what he does.

DONT blame Adam or Matt at all. These guys are doing exactly what Mr Hall of Fame coach is telling them to do. Blame LB if anybody.

Hormel
11-11-2008, 09:59 PM
I gotta defend adam here.....let me ask you a question.
Did Morrison put the ball on the floor well in college? Yes he did. he put up 28.5 ppg. Yeah it was college but his game is an NBA game. He can put the ball on the floor just as well as any similar player to him ala Dirk Nowitzki or Hedo Turkoglu. all he needs to do is takes two dribbles then either pull up hit a runner or pass the ball. And thats what he does.

DONT blame Adam or Matt at all. These guys are doing exactly what Mr Hall of Fame coach is telling them to do. Blame LB if anybody.

I'm not saying Adam was at fault any, but facts are facts, Adam Morrison is never going to run around players in the NBA, he doesn't have too. He can be a good player and never dribble. And he was a damn good college player, but saw was Mek. We don't have a very talented team, and we are playing as good as we can. I'm more less trying to bring down all the people who think one who think one trade will save our franchise

spectre
11-11-2008, 10:00 PM
Ammo did play pretty well. He was a liability a lot of the time but he made up for that somewhat with doing what he's expected to do...put the ball in the hole and at a good %.

I also thought Crash had a good game, but letting Balkman go off like he did takes a lot of that away.

Felton...off and on. After he got those 3 3 ptrs out of the way I thought he was doing pretty decent...and then he got into foul trouble and never got past it.

Swish started out great...then the foul trouble...then tried to take it all on himself. This game actually makes me feel better about him going forward.

Duds...fairly solid. He played Melo decent, but Melo is an all star and an undersized SF can only do so much.

Mek...disappointing. He seemed a little hesitant going against Nene. I wish he'd have plowed into him a couple times and tried to get to the FT line.

Most of the rest were disappointing and not really worth a mention.

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
11-11-2008, 10:01 PM
i don't think Carroll is necessarily a bad player per se, but he does not belong in our roster right now...maybe on a more complete team that needs someone off the bench to hit some 3s. For our team, Carroll is a basically an overpaid JJ Redick

Morrison on the other hand can contribute well to our team based on his greater offensive flexibility

On another note, i hate duke but watching them blow GA Southern makes me feel better about our loss

ammofan
11-11-2008, 10:03 PM
i don't think Carroll is necessarily a bad player per se, but he does not belong in our roster right now...maybe on a more complete team that needs someone off the bench to hit some 3s. For our team, Carroll is a basically an overpaid JJ Redick

Morrison on the other hand can contribute well to our team based on his greater offensive flexibility

On another note, i hate duke but watching them blow GA Southern makes me feel better about our loss

I love MC too but I agree. He doesn't fit here now. I want that NJ-CHA trade to go down soon

Marvel
11-11-2008, 10:29 PM
I gotta defend adam here.....let me ask you a question.
Did Morrison put the ball on the floor well in college? Yes he did. he put up 28.5 ppg. Yeah it was college but his game is an NBA game. He can put the ball on the floor just as well as any similar player to him ala Dirk Nowitzki or Hedo Turkoglu. all he needs to do is takes two dribbles then either pull up hit a runner or pass the ball. And thats what he does.

DONT blame Adam or Matt at all. These guys are doing exactly what Mr Hall of Fame coach is telling them to do. Blame LB if anybody.


First this aint college and the NBA is on a whole nuva level(thought i might sound like that guy on MadTV),second Turk has much better handles than Morrison he can penetrate deep into traffic and finish with efficiency,thirdly please don't compare Morrison to Dirk or Turk ever again till Morrison averages their numbers for at least 1 full season.

dav7z
11-11-2008, 10:39 PM
I was at the game and the BOOS started on Augustin . The kid played like a rookie and he just could not drive and dish at all . He must of had at least three shots blocked , And had at least five very bad passes , More like ten bad passes not all turn overs on him but puting the ball in tough spots. Felton played more like a pro but being in foul truble killed him.
We had no post game at all and no one could drive to the basket . I don't know how many threes we took but is was too many .
Morrison was seting too many screans instead screans should be set for him . Hes not that good of a set shooter . Hes better catching the ball off a screan or one or two dribbles and shooting. Over all he had a nice game .
May played about 2mins he looks like hes lost about 10 pounds to me. Rich played ok but i think he tryed to do to much in the 4th. If we had any inside presence to go along with Rich and Wallace we would be a much better team .
Mek gets dubbled off Dudleys man ever time he touches the ball. They dare Dudley too shoot . It kills our inside game . So as bad as Meks numbers are some of its due to us being weak at the four. The kid Alexas did ok in the first half . I would like to see more of him and Mek toghter. And less of Augustin and Felton toghter.

Keetch
11-12-2008, 12:10 AM
During one timeout in the 3rd Quarter I thought Larry Brown might have a stroke the veins in his neck were bulging out so much. He really let into DJ and then proceeded to give it to the rest of team as well.

These guys are on a run right now where they come out gangbusters and then relax. That needs to change.

For some reason DJ seems to think he can drive straight through the paint around 6-10 guys and shoot layups. He can't. Sure he can get around them; but he can't shoot through them.

For some reason DJ seems to think he can make 3's from the corner. He can't.

Morrison looked great in the 1st half, shooting 4 out of 5 and moving well. His running floater is a really nice shot when he finds space. He can't force it though or he'll likely give it up. Second half, Adam shot 1 for 6 and missed one particularly critical 3 late when the team was poised to make a final run. As the crowd rose to their feet - Adam lets the shot fly and ... - BONK - end of game right there. So Morrison didn't really give us any advantage at all in the 2nd half; but nobody else did either. JRich tried, but he was out-numbered.

Everytime Okafor misses a 5 foot shot, I keep thinking, "he sure ain't Tim Duncan, is he?" He takes many of the same types of shots, but unlike Tim, his rarely go in.

Way too much Nazr tonight. Man, he's looking slow.

Billups really enjoyed playing against DJ; and seemed ecstatic when LB inserted Shannon Brown at the point. Billups just smiled and went and took Brown out at midcourt. That was it for Shannon at PG.

Billups was just too strong and too good for DJ tonite. Nothing flashy, he just stayed in front of him. That was enough.

Couldn't figure out why the Bobcats weren't setting any screens for each other after the 1st Quarter. They seemed to forget about that.

It's cool to see the respect LB gets from opposing players before each game. There's always one or two that come over and give him a big hug. I don't recall anyone hugging Vincent much.

TheBeagle
11-12-2008, 12:17 AM
Another strange game from a strange team. I just can't figure this team out; I mean, this wasn't a good showing at all by a not-all-that-good Nuggets team to begin with and we still lost?!? It was a graveyard in the middle tonight against a very small team. Mek struggled against Nene, but Nene didn't set the world on fire either, so.....

They (and Coach, I'm assuming) forgot about the pick and roll after the 1st quarter because I didin't see it happen, just lots of dribbling and passing and standing along the perimeter.

Nazr is worthless and Lexy should be getting his PT.

Very little movement in the offense which didn't help a struggling DJ. They talked to JD in the locker room after the game, and he did a good job ripping the team for the lack of movement and jacking up 27 3s while getting to the line only 17 times.

Last year, we were 4-3 after 7; this year we're 2-5 with a better coach and better roster. Like I said, strange team. We'll see where it goes from here and hope for better things Friday...

Fromage
11-12-2008, 03:10 AM
this team is so hot/cold. even in our worst losses, some good moments. mek & jrich dont seem to be fitting at all out there to me. i don't like felton/dj together either. it seems like our starters are the lest effective ensemble. a mixture of the bench always seems to out perform them.

we need to pull it together for more of these games, cause damnit, we need some wins. and for god's sake, if we're gonna make a trade, get it over with. there were a few moments (watching on tv) tonight where Crash seemed obviously distracted. that one on the bench on the 2nd half said it all.

ammo- another good outing. he's the best development so far this year, hands down. if they trade him, i quit the team.

Marvel
11-13-2008, 07:50 PM
One thing that killed us, too many players jacking up 3s,DJ went 0-5,Morrison was 2-7,Felton was 0-3 and Wallace was 1-3.This game ladies and gentlemen was won at the free throw line,with Denver going to the stripe 11 more times than the Cats and hitting 9 more attempts.

spectre
11-13-2008, 08:18 PM
One thing that killed us, too many players jacking up 3s,DJ went 0-5,Morrison was 2-7,Felton was 0-3 and Wallace was 1-3.This game ladies and gentlemen was won at the free throw line,with Denver going to the stripe 11 more times than the Cats and hitting 9 more attempts.

Didn't I read 27 3 attempts?

It's a wonder LB didn't grab a couple of players by the ear and lead them off the court at the end of the game. Be interesting to see how many they take in the next couple.