We Can't Have This

[BobcatsAllDay]

I think I know what's bugging the Cats. As an organization you cannot have trade rumors floating around involving players(4 players in this case) that get valuable time in the rotation. Yeah I know they are professionals and they should do their job no matter what, however how can you respect a coach or an organization that does not want you(the player). Someone in the FO needs to dispell these trade rumors or get the deal done. Because IMO we look like a collection of guys and not a team. Nobody is playing freely and that could be due to Larry's system but I believe it's the constant strand of rumors. Let's get the deal(s) done and not ruin the season in the process.

[DanielWheeler]

I agree on that statement. Make your move and go forward before this blows up in their face.

[bozzy]

As long as the team sucks, trade rumors will be around. Even after a trade, if no improvements are made, you will end up in the same situation. There's no quick fix to this situation. The organization got themselves in this mess by ignoring the issues everyone else in the entire world saw all summer. Now they have to try to fix it but it isn't going to be easy.

[EvetsMorrison15]

we could be last years Chicago Bulls

[Marvel]

Something needs to be done agreed,but this is a product of consistent bad decisions and poor judgement made by the FO.Time is catching up with this organisation in a sense that choices and decisions made in the past is the bearer of their failures in the present.Inevitability.

[amour217]

Watching last night's game, I think pretty much everyone can agree that we need a big man with a refined offensive game...heck, with ANY offensive game. I do appreciate the defense and rebounding that Okafor gives us, but he's pretty much useless on offense...that pretty much closes off a good 40% of our side of the court to any kind of offensive plays. Just think about that. The entire key is pretty much useless as of right now for our team. I appreciate our point guards driving the lane and trying to make stuff work and Felton - in my opinion - has been doing a pretty good job of that...but without someone in there who will take the pass and throw it down or just be a total bruiser down low, our Point Guards are in no-man's land. The result is what we saw last night with DJ getting easily rejected by Nene: teams just collapse on the middle and the big men can afford to wait and get their timing right and block the shot. We need someone down low who has an offensive game that's good enough to draw even the occasional double-team and open the floor for the rest of our guys.

Right now a lot of what I see is A) dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble, drive the lane, get blocked; B) dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble, make a horrible pass that sails over someone's head; C) dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble-dribble, stand still, then make a telegraphed pass that gets stolen.

I know most of this is frustration speaking, but seriously as I said before, this is not a NEW problem...this is a problem that is going on 2 seasons old right now. And we've done nothing to address it!

[BRNC]

One of the things I always admired about the Atlanta Braves is that they never make trades through the media...other teams respect them for this and their players respect them for this and the fan base respects them for this...professional or not these guys are human beings and in many cases have families and having their names and careers bandied about constantly wears on them...it would wear on anyone...I love speculating on here with everyone else...I'd prefer our FO be professional and that would be better for players and fans...if they are going to deal deal...but do it with other teams and keep it out of the media until the deal is done!!!:mad:

[playoffs...PLAYOFFS?]

i agree...the rumors must have some sort of effect on the players. unfortunately, i don't think there's anything that can be done until a trade happens or someone says that no trades will occurs. LB does not help out either by making constant comments to the press about needing to address the situation of a lack of a big man

regardless, both jordan/bob johnson are pretty inexperienced when it comes running a team, and some of the debacle that is going on right now can be attributed to this inexperience

[BRNC]

True...but with any business the last thing you want to do is make your assets less appealing...especially when you are trying to sell/trade those assets...that's business 101 so inexperience (since both MJ and BJ are business men) does not cut it with me...this is a case of lowering your assets value (see Warriors-Harrington and Knicks-Curry-Marbury)...not a good way to run a business IMO...

[SWedd523]

well I'll play devil's advocate. The players should know that trade rumors are part of the NBA life. There has always been trade rumors and will always be. There's even rumors about lebron's future 2! Years before he hits the market. You don't see it affecting his play (granted he's a special case, but still). These guys are grown men, if they cant handle a rumor then wow.

It sucks.. Yeah. But it comes with the territory. Don't wanna deal with the rumor then don't play

[ohara831]

well I'll play devil's advocate. The players should know that trade rumors are part of the NBA life. There has always been trade rumors and will always be. There's even rumors about lebron's future 2! Years before he hits the market. You don't see it affecting his play (granted he's a special case, but still). These guys are grown men, if they cant handle a rumor then wow.

It sucks.. Yeah. But it comes with the territory. Don't wanna deal with the rumor then don't play
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Words of truth. Well said.

[spectre]

well I'll play devil's advocate. The players should know that trade rumors are part of the NBA life. There has always been trade rumors and will always be. There's even rumors about lebron's future 2! Years before he hits the market. You don't see it affecting his play (granted he's a special case, but still). These guys are grown men, if they cant handle a rumor then wow.

It sucks.. Yeah. But it comes with the territory. Don't wanna deal with the rumor then don't play

If it were that simple then no one would ever need a psychiatrist!

It probably shouldn't affect them, but human nature always worries about the unknown. If you were Crash (an Alabama boy) would you want to be shipped off to someplace like Toronto for the next 4 years? Before you say "for that kind of money" you have to realize that money is "already" his.

IMO the Bulls can point directly at trade rumors for their crappy record last year.

[Marvel]

If it were that simple then no one would ever need a psychiatrist!

It probably shouldn't affect them, but human nature always worries about the unknown. If you were Crash (an Alabama boy) would you want to be shipped off to someplace like Toronto for the next 4 years? Before you say "for that kind of money" you have to realize that money is "already" his.

IMO the Bulls can point directly at trade rumors for their crappy record last year.


Exactly, the fact is it ain't that simple.I read in a blog, namely Tyson Chandler's blog and how he was talking about what the fans/media don't see/know what goes on behind the smoke screen the media creates with a player when he is involved in trade talks.Let's just say when you get traded to a different team you leave behind more than just your jersey and number on the back of it.Trades do have an effect on players.

[playoffs...PLAYOFFS?]

well I'll play devil's advocate. The players should know that trade rumors are part of the NBA life. There has always been trade rumors and will always be. There's even rumors about lebron's future 2! Years before he hits the market. You don't see it affecting his play (granted he's a special case, but still). These guys are grown men, if they cant handle a rumor then wow.

It sucks.. Yeah. But it comes with the territory. Don't wanna deal with the rumor then don't play

Agreed..it is part of the NBA life...but you can't deny that trade rumors is worsening the situation..you're forgetting that we have had a losing record since we started and that there is more pressure this year than ever to perform

[SWedd523]

spectre, marvel, and playoffs:

I completely understand that side of the story, don't get me wrong. I'm simply playing the Devil's advocate showing the business side of the story.;)

Being in high school, everyone knows there are rumors abound. It's impossible to go one day without the whole "Oh my god did you hear about?!" or "Wow did you hear what they did?!" rumor deal.

On one hand, you have to feel bad for what the trade rumors and how it affects the players psyche and performance on the court. You just have to have some sort of compassion for their situation.

But on the other hand you have to look at it like these guys are making obscene amounts of money to play a game and get treated like demigods. So I look at it like tough shit dude, suck it up and act like a man.

I've been told, "The world isn't fair so don't make excuses"
Well, If I have to live by it then so can they>:(

[BRNC]

All these guys are paid well...with me pay is not the point...if any one of us (at our jobs) had rumors floating in our companies/businesses where we worked that we were being transferred...especially to bring in someone we perceived as less qualified (ie. Curry)...and this went on for months(as in Geralds' case) tell me it would not effect you, your co-workers, and your family...it also has an effect on asset value in sports...I love speculating here with everyone else but would be happy if the next article I read is an actual trade!

[Felton for Prez]

All these guys are paid well...with me pay is not the point...if any one of us (at our jobs) had rumors floating in our companies/businesses where we worked that we were being transferred...especially to bring in someone we perceived as less qualified (ie. Curry)...and this went on for months(as in Geralds' case) tell me it would not effect you, your co-workers, and your family...it also has an effect on asset value in sports...I love speculating here with everyone else but would be happy if the next article I read is an actual trade!

Summed up perfectly. I work for a firm you all know in the financial industry in Charlotte. Everyone around here thinks they are either getting clipped or moved to NYC and its all anyone can talk about. Productivity is low and morale is even worse.

If you play for a team in an area you like, in an area your family likes and with players and coaches you respect, it has to be very tough to think that you are not as valuable as you thought (if you were, why would they trade you?) and the potential of uprooting a family will weigh on you each night you walk thru your front door.

Should everyone be professional and keep doing their jobs? Absolutely. Is it as simple as saying, hey, that's business? Not a shot.

[Muttley]

love speculating here with everyone else but would be happy if the next article I read is an actual trade!
Or a denial! I too wish Crash didn't have to deal with this. He probably feels a little unwanted here with reporters saying that we are trying to shop. Yes, it's a business, but he does his job and he does it well. If we are going to trade him, then get it worked out quick, but if not, then I wish they would say something.

[Ghost Kat]

Ya'll are Debating rumors and hurt feelings. What the players don't seem to realize is this is Charlotte 2nd franchise. The way things are going we look cost to losing another. I could care less about someone feeling bad about moving when my team is on the fringe of collasping. No wins means low ticket sales. Low ticket sales means low franchise revenue. No money means No money!!! If these men dont start playing better Jordan will have to drip into his Hanes, Gatorade and Space Jam money to keep this team alive.

[BRNC]

Muttley I agree that a denial would be great also...have not heard any...the thing that has most bothered me about the rumors is every indication (reliable news sources as well as the less reliable) is that it is our FO that is lesking this stuff...that is what ticks me off!

[Muttley]

Muttley I agree that a denial would be great also...have not heard any...the thing that has most bothered me about the rumors is every indication (reliable news sources as well as the less reliable) is that it is our FO that is lesking this stuff...that is what ticks me off!
It does seem that way. If what Dunleavey said about us leaking rumors because we were bitter about not getting a trade for Kaman, then I'd be a little disappointed in that tactic. However, it seems that they're trying something, which is promising.

[SWedd523]

Maybe the FO is leaking all these rumors to gauge public interest? No doubt they are checking this forum and others like it and want to make us happy.

So maybe, just maybe, our voices ARE heard:g:

[Marvel]

Ya'll are Debating rumors and hurt feelings. What the players don't seem to realize is this is Charlotte 2nd franchise. The way things are going we look cost to losing another. I could care less about someone feeling bad about moving when my team is on the fringe of collasping. No wins means low ticket sales. Low ticket sales means low franchise revenue. No money means No money!!! If these men dont start playing better Jordan will have to drip into his Hanes, Gatorade and Space Jam money to keep this team alive.


Feelings.................... and you don't have any? What do any of you know about these NBA players getting traded........................jack,and don't compare this to your workplace or whatever it is you do in life this different this is professional sports.And if you don't care about someone feeling bad then why post in the first place?