View Full Version : Charlotte Bobcats at Atlanta Hawks 11/21
ziggy
11-21-2008, 06:42 AM
So... According to Rick Bonnell we may see DJ and Alexis in the starting lineup tonight instead of Matt Carroll and Butterbean.
I don't think that Alexis can do any worse than May did at the power forward spot, so despite his knack for picking up fouls at an incredible rate, I'm good with that move.
DJ starting at point I can live with, the only negative is Ray sliding over to the two which means that he will need to guard a 6'8" Joe Johnson... Folks, that concerns me.
For the Hawks, Josh Smith and Al Horford could both be out tonight with ankle injuries. We need all of the help that we can get.
Do we get a win tonight?
Mustachio
11-21-2008, 12:27 PM
If Josh Smith is out and we go with DJ, Ray, Crash, Lex, and Mek... Ray won't have to guard Joe Johnson exclusively. because without smith there, Crash can lend a hand.
I am just glad to know that Matt Carroll and Sean May won't start. I blame them solely for the 15 point deficit we began with against Dallas. Neither could keep up on defense and neither added anything offensively. It was like playing 3 on 5 against a good Western Conference team... It was never gonna work.
I actually hope Hollins gets the start tonight, but if Larry rolls with the French Connection, I won't complain.
G-Force for MVP
11-21-2008, 12:37 PM
matt and sean should never start
bing!
11-21-2008, 01:19 PM
awww, what's wrong with Mr. Butterbean ?? I guess the best way to get back in shape is NOT to partake of the grueling process that is playing the game.
And, no Horford & Smith = nice chance for Alexis to crank it up a notch unless Zaza decides to showcase some of his Georgian ruggedness.
All in all, tonight's just another experiment in the long line of Larry's confuse-an-opponent strategies, i.e. the Cats lose (by 8+ points).
bing!
11-21-2008, 02:05 PM
Cats@Hawks atdhe link (http://www.atdhe.net/live-tv-689.html)
^ for those less fortunate (& those living across the Atlantic).
EDIT: just noticed it, the topic title should say Cats@Hawks, early bird grabs the worm,... and blunders elsewhere :biggrin:
ammofan
11-21-2008, 05:13 PM
.........not expecting a win......again
G-Force for MVP
11-21-2008, 05:22 PM
zaza almost rumbled with kg last year lol
Keetch
11-21-2008, 06:05 PM
Joe Johnson has been a monster this season. I don't see anyone from the Orange side that can stop him. So let's hope JJ's had a bad day and doesn't much feel like playing tonight.
BIGCatBobcat
11-21-2008, 07:00 PM
if you guys havent noticed the blog, i could care less about atlanta. I got like 4 things wrong and some guy that's an atlanta fan cracked on me. 7:30 tip? Kinda random right? I think we have a shot, I mean who knows, Atlanta had a nice run then injuries and went cold i think? Anyone feel like chatting through the game?
Walt Cronkite
11-21-2008, 07:27 PM
Cats@Hawks atdhe link (http://www.atdhe.net/live-tv-689.html)
^ for those less fortunate (& those living across the Atlantic).
EDIT: just noticed it, the topic title should say Cats@Hawks, early bird grabs the worm,... and blunders elsewhere :biggrin:
My post just got eated, but I'm curious if this link is supposed to be playing video yet, or if it'll start with the game. I've opened it in firefox and safari (I'm on a macbook), but I'm not getting anything right now on the embedded video player.
davcbow
11-21-2008, 07:34 PM
I hope for a win tonight, don't mean we will get one but I do hope we get one. I can't stand the Atlanta Hawks......Go Bobcats....:cool:
tamburello
11-21-2008, 07:34 PM
The link works for me just fine with Mozilla 2. Thx bing.
BIGCatBobcat
11-21-2008, 07:34 PM
Anyone know this announcer?
BobcatsAllDay
11-21-2008, 07:41 PM
What are the odds this small backcourt works?
tamburello
11-21-2008, 07:49 PM
So far it works. And Alexis is better than I think.
bing!
11-21-2008, 07:50 PM
Almost six minutes into the game and Alexis hasn't commited a single foul + we lead, nice.
davcbow
11-21-2008, 07:51 PM
Is there a video feed to the game tonight? I like the way the game seems to be going so far...:cool:
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 07:53 PM
Alexis is looking good, hell everyone is looking good.
davcbow
11-21-2008, 07:54 PM
GW a steal and a 2+1, good play.... I found the link Bing thanks...:cool:
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 07:54 PM
Wouldn't doing BMX be difficult for someone Alexis' size?>.>
bing!
11-21-2008, 07:54 PM
Is there a video feed to the game tonight?
Check the first page of this thread.
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 07:54 PM
Why Put In Nazr For Ajinca?!
tamburello
11-21-2008, 07:56 PM
GW is killing Hawks 16-6!
ziggy
11-21-2008, 07:57 PM
16-6 Bobcats, thats the kind of start that I like to see.
davcbow
11-21-2008, 07:57 PM
Wouldn't doing BMX be difficult for someone Alexis' size?>.>
GW burning it up so far...Keep it up guys....:cool:
bing!
11-21-2008, 08:00 PM
Wallace is nuts. NUTS I tell ya.
spectre
11-21-2008, 08:00 PM
Yeah we really need to trade Crash...he sucks. :rolleyes:
kickazzz2000
11-21-2008, 08:01 PM
Wallace = BEAS
bing!
11-21-2008, 08:07 PM
D.J. 8 minutes - 1-6 FG, had two of his attempts blocked.
davcbow
11-21-2008, 08:10 PM
24-16 end of 1st...keep it up guys please do not cool off...:cool:
davcbow
11-21-2008, 08:14 PM
Good defense Shannon....
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 08:14 PM
Wallace must not want to get traded.
kickazzz2000
11-21-2008, 08:23 PM
Love the UPS ad on the banner at courtside...What Can Brown Do for You?
hmmmmmm....
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 08:23 PM
Fk DJ, stop being a ballhog
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 08:24 PM
Also, this announcer has no clue what he is tlaking about.
Marvel
11-21-2008, 08:24 PM
I was really hoping the commentators would bash Sean McMay about his weight and poor fitness,but i did get an interesting stat on McMay in that he's played 56 games (i think it was) in his career out of a possible 256 that's just embarrasing.
tamburello
11-21-2008, 08:25 PM
Since 13 point lead was built by off-the-system points of GW, we've lost it so easily. Let's hope we catch fire by another player again.
davcbow
11-21-2008, 08:25 PM
We seem to be cooling off a bit or either Atlanta is playing better defense. Only up by 3..:cool:
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 08:26 PM
Why the hell are they praising DJ every second?
BobcatsAllDay
11-21-2008, 08:26 PM
Not only is May out of shape but more importantly he has lost his confidence.
BobcatsAllDay
11-21-2008, 08:27 PM
Why the hell are they praising DJ every second?
Noticed that too, we may have the ROY
davcbow
11-21-2008, 08:28 PM
They need to take May out of the game...:cool:
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 08:28 PM
Alexis was doing GREAT...PUT HIM BACK IN THERE
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 08:29 PM
I'm really hating DJ. I thought we wanted a pass first PG.
bing!
11-21-2008, 08:30 PM
Will Larry ever learn, Raymond & D.J. don't belong on court together. Their combined FG shooting = 4-16
BobcatsAllDay
11-21-2008, 08:32 PM
We Need A Post Presence....nobody Will Succeed Until We Have One!!
Marvel
11-21-2008, 08:32 PM
Ok here comes Morrison and Frenchie let's see if we can get something goin
bing!
11-21-2008, 08:32 PM
Now THIS is a nice lineup.
BobcatsAllDay
11-21-2008, 08:34 PM
Will Larry ever learn, Raymond & D.J. don't belong on court together. Their combined FG shooting = 4-16
It's not rocket science
davcbow
11-21-2008, 08:35 PM
LB got a tech for saying "hey ref"....:cool:
davcbow
11-21-2008, 08:39 PM
All a sudden mistakes mistakes mistakes...:cool:
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 08:40 PM
Why has Carrol became such a bad dribbler this year?
bing!
11-21-2008, 08:40 PM
This is one ugly 2nd quarter, they better get it back together after the half.
G-Force for MVP
11-21-2008, 08:41 PM
matt sucks
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 08:42 PM
Is it just me or has half our team all of a sudden became ballhogs?
bing!
11-21-2008, 08:44 PM
'tis nearly 3AM here, this sad Bobcats fan is turnin' in for tonight. Best of luck to the guys and let'em make my morning jolly by scoring a win on the road.
Mustachio
11-21-2008, 08:44 PM
Matt Carroll blows. please trade him now.
davcbow
11-21-2008, 08:47 PM
The one play that got to me was DJ got to the 3 pt line with about 11 secs on the possession clock and passes to I think Carroll in the corner and tries a 3 with 10 seconds left on the poss clock..Misses of course...arrrrg :cool:
tamburello
11-21-2008, 08:47 PM
We've lost our fire but at least we're still in the game. However I'm not hopeful about the possible outcomes.
BIGCatBobcat
11-21-2008, 08:49 PM
Could you guys all do me a favor? Just go out tomorrow, call your friends get them to go to, go out and get as may lotto tickets as you can. it's important to my away game watching sanity. I'll kill that lotto guy if i see him on the street mark my words. I'll stick that Bob Barker microphone so far down his throat his small intestine will be asking you to buy a scratcher.
ammofan
11-21-2008, 08:49 PM
Morrison comes into the game 1-2.......Played like 5 minutes......
Wallace playing good....
LB has NO CLUE what to do with rotations.....
May is fat(What else is new).....
Augustin continuing the hot streak but still playing like a rook....
Matt Carroll needs lessons from DJ on ballhandling....
LB should never say "Hey ref" to Dick Bavetta....
Eifel tower looked good in all his 4-5 minutes of glory as starter.....
Felton is not a good 2 guard.....
We need Chris Kaman....
more to come later?......
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 08:50 PM
Felton
Morrison
Wallace
Okafor
Ajinca
Plllleeease run this for most of the game.
ohara831
11-21-2008, 08:50 PM
I happen to think DJ is doing great for just a Rookie. He's playing a very tough position under a tough coach on PG and starting to get the hang of it. The assists will pick up as he gains confidence. The kid is a winner and showing why LB thought so highly of him. That said, we really do need a quality big to help Okafor. God, Kaman would be nice for this team.
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 08:51 PM
I want a PG that doesnt hold onto the ball until there is 8 seconds left on the shot clock.
tamburello
11-21-2008, 08:52 PM
We definitely need a post scorer. Our guards have absolutely no idea what to do when that freaking pick 'n rolls aren't working.
DJ has been a Jameer Nelson since day 1, and he's proving me right.
davcbow
11-21-2008, 08:58 PM
How much longer is JRich going to be out?
ziggy
11-21-2008, 08:58 PM
I'll kill that lotto guy if i see him on the street mark my words.
If you do, the world will be a much better place.
ammofan
11-21-2008, 09:00 PM
Felton
Morrison
Wallace
Okafor
Ajinca
Plllleeease run this for most of the game.
Best lineup we got...
kickazzz2000
11-21-2008, 09:09 PM
What A Pick!!!!!!
Marvel
11-21-2008, 09:09 PM
All these mistakes,turnovers hurting us
ziggy
11-21-2008, 09:12 PM
DJ is on FIRE!!!!!!
kickazzz2000
11-21-2008, 09:15 PM
Fuck, can we get Nazi Fucking Muhammed out of the game now?
davcbow
11-21-2008, 09:16 PM
Ive come to the conclusion that Nazr cant pass....:cool:
G-Force for MVP
11-21-2008, 09:19 PM
where is morrison
kickazzz2000
11-21-2008, 09:20 PM
Ive come to the conclusion that Nazr cant pass....:cool:
Or shoot J's
Marvel
11-21-2008, 09:22 PM
Oh yes baby DJ with a nice pass to Dudley and Carroll OMG with the steal and 1.It's so obvious we need a low post scorer all we're doin is passing around the perimeter setting picks that are ineffective or get called for moving screens(thank you very much Frenchie),and getting in the paint which is also ineffective.Trade trade trade
davcbow
11-21-2008, 09:22 PM
OMG Carroll great defensive play...:cool:
tamburello
11-21-2008, 09:23 PM
What a way to finish the quarter.
G-Force for MVP
11-21-2008, 09:23 PM
here we go cats
G-Force for MVP
11-21-2008, 09:23 PM
up 1 after 3
DJ has been a Jameer Nelson since day 1, and he's proving me right.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
tamburello
11-21-2008, 09:36 PM
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Yes he is. Whatever you say.
kickazzz2000
11-21-2008, 09:38 PM
Twiggs got skillz??!!!
davcbow
11-21-2008, 09:45 PM
Twiggs got skillz??!!!
Down by 1 with 4:58 left,, come on guys defense....:cool:
G-Force for MVP
11-21-2008, 09:46 PM
peace ray ray dj has your spot now
G-Force for MVP
11-21-2008, 09:47 PM
DJ!!!!!!!!!!!
ziggy
11-21-2008, 09:47 PM
peace ray ray dj has your spot now
^^^ Yeah, THAT!!!
Marvel
11-21-2008, 09:48 PM
DJ with 8 3s, 1 away from equalling the rookie record,ta ta Felton you suck let's get it done already
Cyprus Sinner
11-21-2008, 09:55 PM
Looks like DJ kept us in the game, but also lost it for us at the end with a bad shot and a turnover.
Felton played horrible.
Okafor has no offensive game, at all.
Carroll has gotten all of Morrison's PT the past two games, even after Morrison had three straight good games.
G-Force for MVP
11-21-2008, 09:56 PM
sooo close to another win but fell short again
I really thought we could have used more of Ammo out there tonight.
ohara831
11-21-2008, 10:04 PM
Yeah, but DJ's errors at the end didn't cost us the game. If he hadn't played as well as he did, we wouldn't have even been in it.
G-Force for MVP
11-21-2008, 10:04 PM
i know really ammo only played like 5 minutes
davcbow
11-21-2008, 10:04 PM
Oh well 88-83 final we lose again. But what about that DJ? I think we have a new PG....:cool:
ohara831
11-21-2008, 10:04 PM
DJ will get better with the assists with PT and as his confidence goes up. But I love what he is capable of - his ceiling is so much higher than Ray's.
Mustachio
11-21-2008, 10:13 PM
I really thought we could have used more of Ammo out there tonight.
See I'm pretty confident in my basketball knowledge ... but due to my liking Adam Morrison i don't always feel like im making the best judgements when it comes to him.
The fact that you say this, lets me know I'm not that far off even with my mustache colored glasses on. I am the last person to judge a man with 1000 NBA wins. But i just don't see why Ammo isnt getting more minutes.
But Larry knows a hell of a lot more than me and seen a hell of lot more players so I gotta think he knows what hes doing.
And I think getting rid of Raymond is a stupid idea even if DJ keeps blowing up. We need depth there but we don't need them on the court at the same time. and Ohara is right... DJ's ceiling is so so so much higher than Raymonds.
tough loss on the road... still haven't seen that winners fire from these guys yet.
See I'm pretty confident in my basketball knowledge ... but due to my liking Adam Morrison i don't always feel like im making the best judgements when it comes to him.
The fact that you say this, lets me know I'm not that far off even with my mustache colored glasses on. I am the last person to judge a man with 1000 NBA wins. But i just don't see why Ammo isnt getting more minutes.
But Larry knows a hell of a lot more than me and seen a hell of lot more players so I gotta think he knows what hes doing.
And I think getting rid of Raymond is a stupid idea even if DJ keeps blowing up. We need depth there but we don't need them on the court at the same time. and Ohara is right... DJ's ceiling is so so so much higher than Raymonds.
tough loss on the road... still haven't seen that winners fire from these guys yet.
Two things:
1. I don't dislike Ammo. Far from it. I was a huge fan of his at Gonzaga. I just think he was drafted way too high - but that's not his fault.
2. Couldn't agree more about Felts. Why the hell would we trade him? Heck, if anything we should be STOKED he's playing so poorly. Maybe that means we get him on the cheap over the summer and at worst he becomes our cheap, young, capable, hard working back up point who is on a good deal. At best, we still sign him cheap, he reaches his potential and we have an absolute bargain.
BobcatsAllDay
11-21-2008, 10:30 PM
Low post scorer please, until then we are irrelevant and hard to stomach...good game DJ
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 10:51 PM
Dj plays like an SG, not a PG. I can't imagine us doing well with him unless he changes his style of play.
ohara831
11-21-2008, 11:03 PM
Dj plays like an SG, not a PG. I can't imagine us doing well with him unless he changes his style of play.
26 pts and 7 assists, and only 11 games into his NBA career. For the love of God, just give him 1 season to get his legs under him. He can be a terrific PG once he gets more experience and NBA maturity. The kid is great.
26 pts and 7 assists, and only 11 games into his NBA career. For the love of God, just give him 1 season to get his legs under him. He can be a terrific PG once he gets more experience and NBA maturity. The kid is great.
Only the 1 turn over too.
WarioVsMooChicken
11-21-2008, 11:05 PM
26 pts and 7 assists, and only 11 games into his NBA career. For the love of God, just give him 1 season to get his legs under him. He can be a terrific PG once he gets more experience and NBA maturity. The kid is great.
It's not his skill that I'm complaining about. I know he has ton of talent. I'm worried about his basketball IQ. He just doesn't play smart.
ohara831
11-21-2008, 11:09 PM
Dude, do you remember how inconsistent Chris Paul was at the start of his career? Deron Williams? All of them took time to learn the position - except Magic Johnson. But hey, they only made 1 of him.
BobcatsAllDay
11-21-2008, 11:25 PM
26 pts and 7 assists, and only 11 games into his NBA career. For the love of God, just give him 1 season to get his legs under him. He can be a terrific PG once he gets more experience and NBA maturity. The kid is great.
Think of how good he could be if he had an inside player to compliment his perimeter game.
ohara831
11-21-2008, 11:27 PM
Think of how good he could be if he had an inside player to compliment his perimeter game.
BINGO!! You nailed it!
TheBeagle
11-22-2008, 01:34 AM
Dude, do you remember how inconsistent Chris Paul was at the start of his career? Deron Williams? All of them took time to learn the position - except Magic Johnson. But hey, they only made 1 of him. Well said, ohara. DJ will have more games like this, and he'll have (hopefully less) Nuggets-type games (1-9, 5 or so TOs), but so many of the best PGs in the league today struggled their first year at the point, the undisputed toughest position for a rookie to learn.
I hate losing, and it's frustrating staring down a likely 30 or less win season, but really, as long as JRich is out, and we don't make any move to get better in the post, losing is going to be the norm here. Still, with our two rookies in place for the future, and Larry at the helm, and MJ getting his balls busted by Larry to improve the team's post, and most guys still busting their asses, I'm not nearly as upset as I thought I'd be at this point in the season. I just absolutely loved Larry starting DJ and Lexy tonight....that was just sheer BRILLIANCE that any other coach in our team's history would've never had the balls to do, if ANY coach in the league right now.
I like the Bobcats better now than I did before the preseason started......is something wrong with me?:g:
davcbow
11-22-2008, 02:18 AM
I like the Bobcats better now than I did before the preseason started......is something wrong with me?:g:
Might as well admit it you're a Bobcats fan just like the rest of us...:cool:
Dead_Real
11-22-2008, 10:16 AM
Only the 1 turn over too.
Wow to be honest I'm more impressed with that than anything that's a CP3 like game for real hopefully he can keep up this high level of play.
Did Lex look clueless last night or show some promise ?
Did Lex look clueless last night or show some promise ?
He didn't look to bad. I was pleasantly surprised.
Dead_Real
11-22-2008, 07:03 PM
He didn't look to bad. I was pleasantly surprised.
Cool we'll get another chance to see him starting tonight the Bobcat announcer are saying.
BIGCatBobcat
11-22-2008, 07:04 PM
4 quick fouls will make your box score look bad. I think I had an epiphany on my blog post today. He's 20 years old and doesn't know how to make his body work to where he can defend quickly without, albeit, drawing ticky tak fouls.
spectre
11-22-2008, 07:15 PM
NM...wrong thread.
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