Charlotte Bobcats at Milwaukee Bucks 12/5

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The Bobcats have their first 2 game winning streak of the season and have won 4 of their last 6 games. Emeka has played great over the last 2 games, Raymond is averaging 13 assists over the last 2 and things are going well.


ILBIT


The Bucks on the other hand have lost 4 out of their last 5 and have dropped to 8-12. If we win tonight we'll pass them in the standings. There is one positive though, when it comes to Drunk Dancing Fans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78WRPRF-Mvg) they're the best in the business. Supposedly this guy is a Milwaukee staple that dances at a lot of the Bucks and UWM games... Good Times.

Are we on our way to a 3 game win streak?

[davcbow]

Bobcats Bucks
Record: 7 - 11 (.389) 8 - 12 (.400)
Standings: Fourth, Southeast Fourth, Central
At Home: 6 - 7 4 - 4
On Road: 1 - 4 4 - 8
Streak: W 2 W 1
PPG: 90.1 95.1
OPP PPG: 92.5 97.0
FG%: .435 .432
OPP FG%: .453 .445
RPG: 38.3 44.0
OPP RPG: 39.7 39.5

I really want this road win tonight and I think we can pull it off....:cool:

[dav7z]

I want this game bad as im sure the Bobcats want it bad too. We lost last game 79-74 only by five points with out Swish . Of corse they was missing Redd.
This should be a true cat fight . The best game of the night. They have home court but we have pay back in our mind . If Larry Brown isn't good at any thing else hes good at revenge match ups pay back as im sure thats whats in our mind tonight.
A tough game whitch might set the corse of the rest of the year for both teams. Not a must win for either team . But a game both wants badly seting a playoff tone for either team .

Larrys Cats in in a close Cat FIGHT fur will be flying tonight.


Nice read PREVIEW

http://www.nba.com/games/20081205/CHAMIL/preview.html

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I want this game badly as I'm sure the Bobcats want it too. We lost the last game 79-74, only by five points without Swish . Of course they were missing Redd.
This should be a true cat fight. The best game of the night. They have home court advantage but we have payback in our mind . If Larry Brown isn't good at anything else he's good at revenge match ups payback as I'm sure that's what's in our mind tonight.
A tough game which might set the course of the rest of the year for both teams. Not a must-win for either team, but a game both want badly, for it sets the playoff tone for both teams.

Larry's Cats in a close Cat FIGHT, fur will be flying tonight.

Voila. Was correcting some papers and I was kinda on a roll there, plus I needed a single post to round out the post count,... I'm sad.

So far no links for tonight's bout, will post if I find any.

[dav7z]

Voila. Was correcting some papers and I was kinda on a roll there, plus I needed a single post to round out the post count,... I'm sad.

So far no links for tonight's bout, will post if I find any.

I hope that makes you feel like some kind of a big shot . I hope you are happy as hell with your self making fun of my spelling . I respect you and your post but can't understand what gets you off making fun of a old man who has no education.
I hope this makes you feel like some kind of big shot doing that to me. By telling me just how stupid you think i am . I hope you got your big laugh on me .
If i bother you guys by my spelling and you want me to stop posting on hear . I WILL . I don't want to be bother to any of you guys. So if i am just tell me and i will quit posting........

[bing!]

^ You misinterpreted my post. It's what I do for some extra cash and I was bored as hell, so...

You've been here far longer than I have and by no means did I intend for my post to come off as derogatory, plus, I don't know where you got...

By telling me just how stupid you think i am . I hope you got your big laugh on me.
...from.

I'm not a native English speaker so misspelled words kinda stand out (especially when one spends years learning not to make those kind of mistakes).

Just forget it.

[ziggy]

dav7z,

Your posting is always welcome around here.

[spectre]

dav7z,

Your posting is always welcome around here.

Ditto X 1,000,000,000

That being said I don't think Bing meant how it looked.

Back on topic...Dickhead sucks. I hope Crash makes him cry tonight.

[ohara831]

Ditto X 1,000,000,000

That being said I don't think Bing meant how it looked.

Back on topic...Dickhead sucks. I hope Crash makes him cry tonight.


I agree. Dont think anything was meant by it. Everything is cool, and all Bobcat fans are in harmony once again - even if for the sole topic of "we want to beat the Bucks tonight".

[SWedd523]

dav7z is allowed to misspell words, he's a big shot so he gets away with it:biggrin:



p.s. LET'S BEAT DICKHEAD AND THE BUCKS!

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WMP audio link (mms://a400.l2229948399.c22299.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/400/22299/v0001/reflector:48399), it's the only thing available thus far.

[Muttley]

Dav, if you stopped posting here, I think I'd cry. You and Bing, are both welcome here, and I regularly enjoy your posts. I don't think anyone meant any harm to anyone. It's one of those, "lost in translation" things.

On to buisiness...
It's time to beat the ever-lovin' Buck outta Milwaukee!

Alice Cooper once taught me that Milwaukee, an indian name which is actually pronounced "mill-e-wah-que," is Algonquin for "the good land."

Hopefully it will be "the good land" for the Bobcats tonight!

[dnbman]

One time I saw Dav kill a dozen grizzly bears with a ping-pong paddle. Then he slapped Chuck Norris in the face with his own '87 edition kung-fu grip action figure.

Dav is a bad man.

[SWedd523]

One time I saw Dav kill a dozen grizzly bears with a ping-pong paddle. Then he slapped Chuck Norris in the face with his own '87 edition kung-fu grip action figure.

Dav is a bad man.
They say that God fears Chuck Norris... well, Chuck Norris fears Dav:cool:

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Sopcast link is here... sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/60565

Now let's hunt us some deer while the hunting season's open. ('hunting season' being our winning streak of course :biggrin: )

[millst2]

http://albaaa.altervista.org/watch.php?id=510

says here on atdhe.. we shall see

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^ atdhe doesn't do video feeds anymore, at least I think it doesn't.

[ammofan]

It is on FSN too tonight guys...

3 GAME WIN STREAK!!!! WOOHOO!!!!

[millst2]

^ atdhe doesn't do video feeds anymore, at least I think it doesn't.

Hmm, I watched a game on their the other night. Is that something recent?

they are showing lakers/wizards.. knicks/hawks right now,, so i assume they still have video

[Ryan The Ryan]

Is anyone else watching the pregame show? These guys really make me sad. When the guy is telling stats he always thinks that the six's are eights. I had to stop watching because i was overcome with shame.

[tamburello]

Sick block by Okafor on Jefferson. 14-17, come on guys!

[dnbman]

Even though we're losing, I'm liking what I see. Felton with the three assists and the nasty crossover on Ridnour. Okafor with the deluxe block. If we settle down on D, we'll be in good shape.

May got up for a rebound too. There was at least 8 inches between his feet and the floor.

[spectre]

Anyone get a vid working? I've only got audio so far.

[dnbman]

Okafor and Felton look like they're really developing good chemistry.

Huge positive.

[Mustachio]

Dear Mrs. Richard Jefferson

.... Don't ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Bring that weak shit again.

-Sincerely,
Emeka Okafor

[tamburello]

Anyone get a vid working? I've only got audio so far.

http://albaaa.altervista.org/watch.php?id=510

Try this spectre.

[millst2]

nice swipe by May.

we need to get a hand in jeffersons face!

[spectre]

http://albaaa.altervista.org/watch.php?id=510

Try this spectre.

Thanks Tam!!!

[davcbow]

29-24 end of first thanks Tamb for the link....:cool:

[Dead_Real]

And the nasty crossover on Ridnour..

I'm putting that on youtube after the game

[timang]

may hurt us defending malik allen during the 1st qtr.


nice 3 by ammo btw :D

[Dead_Real]

we are on fire from the 3 point line

Redd is abusing anyone we put on him :mad:

[davcbow]

JRich and DJ bringing us back with the 3's... way to take one for the team Duds on the offensive foul... That stupid piano music makes me sick...:cool:

[Dead_Real]

Dudley is really active tonight on both ends I like it

[timang]

Dudley is really active tonight on both ends I like it

2 steals! wikkid :o

[davcbow]

Thats one thing I hate about the rules in the NBA, GW about has his head took off and he get a tech... The guilty ass hole that did it gets a foul shot for doing it... Tackle basketball...:cool:

[tamburello]

I really like what I see on the floor.

[ohara831]

I dont get the game, but following on line. Ray and J-Rich seem solid tonight. 2 pt lead at the half. Keep it up guys!

[dnbman]

I dont get the game, but following on line. Ray and J-Rich seem solid tonight. 2 pt lead at the half. Keep it up guys!

The Bobcats have been playing with great energy. We'd have a bigger lead if they weren't on fire in the first (60%).

Joe Alexander also had a nice put back.

[Dead_Real]

Our overall play has improved as of late mainly on offense. We don't look as stagnant now as we were compared to preseason and the start of the year it's become more free flowing/uptempo.

[BobcatsAllDay]

Loving our energy on defense

[dnbman]

How about May trying to take his man off the dribble?

I haven't been that surprised since I saw Manute Bol pull up from 26 feet.

[BobcatsAllDay]

FT's are a must tonight

[timang]

How about May trying to take his man off the dribble?

I haven't been that surprised since I saw Manute Bol pull up from 26 feet.

lol :biggrin:

[millst2]

sean may and 1

[BobcatsAllDay]

I think May is coming around with the feel of the game.

[timang]

where is okafor and his offense? i'm missing it now :confused:

[davcbow]

where is okafor and his offense? i'm missing it now :confused:

I missing it too, all the dang turnovers driving me crazy....:cool:

[millst2]

okafor and 1

is that what you were looking for timang? :)

[Dead_Real]

Jumpers that were falling in the 1st aren't going in now we gotta attack the rim more

[dnbman]

okafor and 1

is that what you were looking for timang? :)

No one was looking for Okafor's scoop shot. It's like our guys are possessed.

[timang]

okafor and 1

is that what you were looking for timang? :)


hey, maybe i should be asking for it often don't ya think? hahaha

[BobcatsAllDay]

where is okafor and his offense? i'm missing it now :confused:

Ask and ye shall receive

[dnbman]

Okafor's feeling it.

Make, that money E50!

[Dead_Real]

Meks midrange jumper is on atleast

[timang]

FOUR SHOTS MADE IN A ROW!!!!!! okafor what are you thinking? :hypo:

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Oak can shoot....SINCE WHEN?!

[BobcatsAllDay]

I would love to see a J-Rich dominated 4th w/ a side of Emeka's recent offensive outburst

[ohara831]

We made some poor decisions on the court in the 3rd. Gotta clean it up in the 4th if we want to win. Play smart!

[timang]

We made some poor decisions on the court in the 3rd. Gotta clean it up in the 4th if we want to win. Play smart!


the first few minutes were lethargic offense-wise, and were letting them get offensive rebounds while on defense. focus guys, focus!

[Dead_Real]

Dudley w/ 4 steals

[dnbman]

The announcers just got ruthless on Dudley!

"You could have timed that race with a sun dial."

[TheBeagle]

Another frustrating road loss is looking us dead in the eyes......:(

[dnbman]

Another frustrating road loss is looking us dead in the eyes......:(

There's still plenty of time. I'm feeling positive.

[Dead_Real]

Another frustrating road loss is looking us dead in the eyes......:(

a lot of time left

[timang]

j-rich, crash where are you when we need you best? please show up T___T

[BobcatsAllDay]

Naz moves like his feet weigh a ton!!!!!

[dnbman]

Huge bucket by Augustine!

[Dead_Real]

DJ w/ some big shots this quarter

[BobcatsAllDay]

Huge bucket by Augustine!

Crazy big shot by DJ!

[TheBeagle]

If they could get a cocksuckin defensive rebound and the refs wouldn't bail those fuckers out......:hissyfit:

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Nazr is doing terrible

[dnbman]

If they could get a cocksuckin defensive rebound and the refs wouldn't bail those fuckers out......:hissyfit:

Yeah, that part is frustrating. I think we can pull it out though.

[davcbow]

Yeah, that part is frustrating. I think we can pull it out though.

Yeah rebounding tonight is horrible.... :cool:

[kickazzz2000]

fuck fuck fuck

[millst2]

we need some offensive boards.. this is sad.

[timang]

this is so awful. no rebounds whatsoever. :mad:

edit: ray is a robot. ironman. war machine. hulk. he's no human.

[Dead_Real]

Crazy game still a chance to take the lead after Meks putback

[DanielWheeler]

Man this team is playing hard tonight! If only they'd get another big man to go along with Okafor...

[Dead_Real]

That hurts

[kickazzz2000]

another PHENOMENAL FLOP by the fucking aussie

[dnbman]

That was a flop for sure, but he did have position.

[millst2]

I think may is coming along. We just got robbed on that Jrich play.
But a few more games and we will be right.

[timang]

gaah. i am not ready to give this game up. nooo nooo!!!!!!

[kickazzz2000]

How fitting. The Fa%^$t dickhead gets the OFFENSIVE REBOUND to seal the deal.

[dnbman]

I think that was it. Man... rebounding killed us.

[Dead_Real]

Bucks = the Knicks just like NY they always seem to have our number in these nail bitters.

[Dead_Real]

That was a flop for sure, but he did have position.
agreed sucks it cost us a W though

[GoBobs]

The zebras killed us all night tonight. This is the reason the bobs really don't have a chance. In the NBA it is basicly a popularity contest with the refs. They reward home teams and big market teams. The call at the end could have gone either way but we probably lost 10 possesions on horrible calls this game and most of the bucks points at the end of the game came on freethrows. There is a clear double standard on a lot of calls.

[timang]

rebounds rebounds rebounds.

nazr: 13 minutes, 0 rebounds. 3 pts.5 fouls.

new big man please come soon.

[TheBeagle]

Another frustrating road loss is looking us dead in the eyes......:( Called it at 9:50 left in the game. Same fucking Bobcats, goddammit!

There might've been something good to take from this game, but I could give a shit right now....just another in a long long long long long line of losses that should've been wins against so-so opponents.

FUUUUUUUUCKKKK:banghead:

[davcbow]

It was rebounding and maybe a little bit to do with some of the calls, mek missed a free throw that could have brought us with in 1 and just maybe things would have turned out differently.... like someone else said we need another big body that can rebound....:cool:

[ohara831]

We pissed another one away! Rebounds killed us. 41 - 27. And Nazr plays 13 min and gets 0 rebounds - a Center and no rebounds? Bad decision making in the 2nd half killed us also. Not real happy w/ some of Ray's decisions in the end, but it was not as bad as some other games. Still, just cant let the other team get a rebound off a missed FT with 10 sec left. That sealed our fate.

[dnbman]

Ohara, what decisions did you not like? For the most part, he deferred to other players, and he hit some pretty big shots. Considering he was guarding their best offensive player, giving up several inches in the process, I thought he was pretty darn good.

I think the only problem we had tonight was height, covering their players and getting rebounds. If we had another solid big to rotate in, I think we would have won that.

[millst2]

we need to get rid of nazr :)

all we needed to do tonight was to have gave them 2 less offensive boards and converted them into our points.

What did they have 15 offensive boards to our 7?

[Dead_Real]

Rebounds sucked but it didn't KILL us considering we were still in the game late. Ray just hit the 3 pointer which put us only down 3 points. If J-Rich got the and 1(plus made his ft shot) instead of getting the offensive foul we would have been put in a position to win. It was all downhill after Boguts flop it seemed to take away our momentum.

[ohara831]

I had to listen to it and follow it on line. From the calls, a couple poor shot selections and ball movement in critical places. He was not shooting poorly as the other night tho. And like I said, he was not the reason we lost, not at all. But too often he seems to think he has to do the impossible when he doesn't. If he just will play within himself, he would be better. Too many times he just makes decisions which leaves him trying to do more than he has the talent to do.

[Mustachio]

Emeka Okafor was a force tonight I thought. he doesnt even look like the same player. Steve Martin was saying that Larry has been workin on Mek's guard game. And it shows. He just looks more comfortable than he ever has out there.

Ohara I cant agree with Raymond making bad decisions. I thought he played excellent tonight and like timang said.... He's not human. Dickhead tried his hardest to snap Raymonds elbow off his arm, and Ray was out for a total of 0 minutes because of it. that is one tough son of a bitch.

I thought maybe Adam should have come in some for the beginning of the 4th. Offense couldn't have hurt and Gerald just seemed to be having a terrible day. Just completely off his game and I think Adam, who played decent defense again for the short time he was out there, would have been a nice change of pace to start the 4th. In other news... Matt Carroll still sucks.

[BobcatsAllDay]

I think due to matchups and lack of faith in May (obviously), LB is a little reluctant to put May in the game at crunch time. But we were getting killed on the boards I wonder what another big body could have done in closing minutes....oh well, if the calls tonight were bad wait until tomorrow night.

[davcbow]

Matt Carroll still sucks.

Can't ya just feel the love? :p

[dnbman]

I had to listen to it and follow it on line. From the calls, a couple poor shot selections and ball movement in critical places. He was not shooting poorly as the other night tho. And like I said, he was not the reason we lost, not at all. But too often he seems to think he has to do the impossible when he doesn't. If he just will play within himself, he would be better. Too many times he just makes decisions which leaves him trying to do more than he has the talent to do.

I'm not sure what the announcing was like, but I don't think you would have thought that had you seen it. Felton was largely playing in the corner off the ball in the 4th. When he shot the ball, he was usually open for a decent shot. Most of the time, he was looking to pass.

He had a couple of bad plays, but they seemed more flukes (the rebound lost out of bounds) than poor decisions. He was great on the defensive end, picking up whoever he needed to. He was boxing out and covering bigs on a few plays, and holding his own at that.

Our guards were generally very strong. Emeka was fantastic. We just needed more rebounds.

[110oldeast]

This game was lost by Milwaukee racking up offensive rebounds, nothing more, nothing less.

I think assessing games without being able to see them has got to be beyond difficult. The online play by play doesn't give you context. And much of the Bobcat commentary on TV and radio seems to have a script that they frame events under.

If a person is fully dependent on either of these for their game analysis, they are at a disadvantage (not through their own fault).

[Alex]

This game was lost by Milwaukee racking up offensive rebounds, nothing more, nothing less.

I think assessing games without being able to see them has got to be beyond difficult. The online play by play doesn't give you context. And much of the Bobcat commentary on TV and radio seems to have a script that they frame events under.

If a person is fully dependent on either of these for their game analysis, they are at a disadvantage (not through their own fault).

Yup. We got destroyed on the offensive glass and that's what did us in in the end. I mean they had seven extra possessions basically.

[spectre]

Jesus Ohara...you're starting to look like a hater. You bitched about Felton the last game in the 4th when he actually went .500 in the last 6 minutes and now last night? The ONLY thing I remember him messing up on in the 4th is fumbling a rebound out of bounds...THATS IT.

IMO he played a pretty stellar game; he fed Mek, his shot a great rate AND he guarded Redd for most of the game.

What the hell does he have to do?

Crash's game was off. If he'd have had a normal night we'd have won. If they hadn't outrebounded us by 14 we'd have won.

[dnbman]

Crash's game was off. If he'd have had a normal night we'd have won. If they hadn't outrebounded us by 14 we'd have won.

Yeah, the only reason I didn't comment on Wallace is that he was doing a lot of other beneficial things other than scoring. He was also playing D on much larger players for a good portion of the night. His shot was bad, but thought the rest of his game was o.k.

[dnbman]

Jesus Ohara

At first, I didn't think you were saying it like "Jesus!" I thought you had renamed Ohara, possibly for prophetic skill or possibly because of his alchemy. Wasn't sure.

At any rate, now I understand.

[GoBobs]

May couldn't have played much worse than naz tonight and that goes for everyone else on the bench to. I want to see some more AA especially if Naz is gonna be trash

[spectre]

Yeah, the only reason I didn't comment on Wallace is that he was doing a lot of other beneficial things other than scoring. He was also playing D on much larger players for a good portion of the night. His shot was bad, but thought the rest of his game was o.k.

Oh yah, he did. Didn't mean to discount his other efforts, but we look for his scoring tho because normally he's our best, most aggressive slasher/finisher and we really need his points.

Confidence in your shot is a bigtime thing. I think he's struggling with it somewhat and (as Bonnell's earlier mentioned) so if Felton.

On a positive note...how's about our big guy! He's ran a string together, and last night was against no slouch in Bogut. If he can start being more aggressive like that then he's well worth that contract.

[dnbman]

On a positive note...how's about our big guy! He's ran a string together, and last night was against no slouch in Bogut. If he can start being more aggressive like that then he's well worth that contract.

Bonnell already wrote about Felton and Okafor developing chemistry, but that was before last night. The first quarter, they were sensational together. That was one of the few things I didn't understand: why didn't we go back to the Felton pick and roll more in the second half, especially in the fourth?

[ohara831]

Jesus Ohara...you're starting to look like a hater. You bitched about Felton the last game in the 4th when he actually went .500 in the last 6 minutes and now last night? The ONLY thing I remember him messing up on in the 4th is fumbling a rebound out of bounds...THATS IT.

IMO he played a pretty stellar game; he fed Mek, his shot a great rate AND he guarded Redd for most of the game.

What the hell does he have to do?

Crash's game was off. If he'd have had a normal night we'd have won. If they hadn't outrebounded us by 14 we'd have won.

Spectre, you are sounding more and more like a Felton apologist. I am just looking at his play with a more critical eye than you, that's all. Maybe the truth about his game is somewhere in the middle.

[dnbman]

Spectre, you are sounding more and more like a Felton apologist. I am just looking at his play with a more critical eye than you, that's all. Maybe the truth about his game is somewhere in the middle.

Ohara, I really don't think you would have criticized Felton if you watched the game. He wasn't the primary ball handler in the fourth quarter. He missed a couple of shots, but he also hit a critical three and a needed layup. He was making the extra pass also. On top of that, he was a warrior last night, playing almost exclusively against much bigger talent, save the times early on when he was guarding Ridnour.

Also, he took a prayer three with time expiring at the end of the half. (Afterwords, Brown was smiling and seemed to be talking to Felton like he was his son.) He also had to take another last minute shot with time winding down at another point. If he doesn't have to take those shots, he would have been shooting 70% or close to it.

I'll put it to you like this: on different message boards, different people have told you that Felton was pretty impressive last night. On RealGM, he was the first or second Hammer by virtually everyone but you.

Again, nothing personal in the slightest. I was just very shocked to see you criticize him after last night.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

If we had Jones, Ajinca, or Hollins getting Nazr's minutes last night, we would have won.

Nazr is the new Harrington.

[spectre]

Spectre, you are sounding more and more like a Felton apologist. I am just looking at his play with a more critical eye than you, that's all. Maybe the truth about his game is somewhere in the middle.

Heh, me and everyone else I guess.

So...what were all these bad decisions you're critizing him about?