I like Sean Singletary

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I think this is the one guy that everyone has overlooked (not just us, but every article in the media).

So we gave a second round pick from 2010 (who knows who's going to be in that Draft...) But, in essence what we did is the same as if we had traded second round picks this year, and taken Sean Singletary as our pick as the 42 spot.

Singletary is a steal. He may or may not get to start in the NBA, but he is going to be solid as a backup.

For those that follow the ACC..he's definitely one of the best players to come around the ACC in the last eight years . He recorded 2,000 career points, 500 career assists, 400 career rebounds and 200 career steal.

Sure..these are college numbers.

But here come the intangibles:

* He has a lot to prove..he's undersized and I think that this causes him to a have chip on his shoulder

* He's a hard worker

* He's quick

* He's a scorer

* He can help his team create plays

* He can create his own plays

* He was UVAs go to scorer

* LB knows his PGs...Singletary worked out for him and I'm sure it was LB pushing for Singletary to be part of the trade

Some might disagree...but in the event that RF is traded..and Singletary is our PG off the bench, he will surprise many..

[ammofan]

I like him too man....I think I would feel more comfortable trading felton now that we have him. We would still need a vet though...

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I like him too man....I think I would feel more comfortable trading felton now that we have him. We would still need a vet though...

you see, i would be dissapointed RF were traded. He would be the quintessential franchise player, I believe if he wasn't traded he would have played his entire career with us. But at the same time, I would be excited to see Singletary develop as a NBA PG

[SWedd523]

I loved Singletary when he played at UVA. I liked the fact that he stayed and got better with J.R. Reynolds. I liked Reynolds a bit more in college so it really sucks to see he didn't get any burn in the League.

Seems he's playing somewhere in Italy now and doing pretty well so I'm glad to see both character guys do well

[polarcat]

i agree that singletary was overlooked in this deal. i think felts not crash is the guy that is getting shopped and will inevitably get dealt. the emergence of dj is only making it easier to deal with the loss and singletary is hopefully getting a lot of burn in practice. with shannon brown still on board, i feel that a backcourt of dj-brown-singletary will be fine especially if it gets us a solid sg in return.

[WR19]

I am sure that Sean can make a great contribution to the Bobcats once he becomes part of the rotation. He is fearless, has a great heart, can break down defenses with his dribble and speed, and can put up points in a hurry.
I hope that he provides the thrills to Bobcats fans that he gave to UVa fans for four years.
To Duke fans these clips might be a little painful, but they give a glimpse of the excitement Sean can bring (and at least Duke fans can appreciate this guy does not back down from any challenge):
In Charlottesville, this play is simply known as The Shot, a game ending play in front of a national TV audience:
The play by play clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b7ypzG9LJk
The view from fans in the stands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtsIk0czO3o

He was getting minutes in Phoenix, and was often playing ahead of the expensive PG they recruited from Slovenia (Dragic). LB wanted him as part of the deal - I think he knows that Sean can become an important member of Bobcats squad.

[tamburello]

I don't know a lot about Singletary at all. All I know is he's been traded for the third time since he's been drafted this summer, and already been a journeyman :) His stats with Suns are not bright though. But he's yet to be given a chance to prove himself in the professional level, because it seems like he had a pretty remarkable college career.

Sean Singletary played four years at Virginia is the only player in ACC history with 2,000 points, 500 assists, 400 rebounds and 200 steals. A three time All-Atlantic Coast Conference First Team selection, Singletary was also a three-time co-captain for the Cavaliers. As a Bob Cousy Award finalist in 2007-08, he scored in double figures in all 33 games, closing a streak in which he tallied double figures in 55 straight contests – a Virginia record. Ranked second in the ACC in assists (6.1), third in scoring (19.8 points), fourth in free throw percentage (.851), sixth in steals (1.82) and minutes played (34.0 mpg), and ninth in assist/turnover ratio (1.58).

I've just found the workout release of the day when Singletary worked out for us. I didn't see anything Larry Brown had said about him. If LB liked him so much, why didn't we draft him at 38th pick? Kyle Weaver had not worked out for us. I'm a little confused.


Sean Singletary • 6-0 • 185 lbs. • Guard • Virginia • Senior

(On coming to Charlotte to workout)
I had a few days off since Orlando, so I was looking forward to just getting out here and playing with these guys. Having Coach Brown teach me some new stuff was pretty good.

(On if attending the Pre-Draft Camp in Orlando helped him)
I know some guys that are working out at home that are still going to be in shape. I worked out in Orlando and I don’t know if it benefited me or didn’t, but coming out here and working out was a good experience today.

(On if the workout was what he expected)
I knew there was going to be a lot of teaching because that’s what Coach Brown likes to do. I went through this process last year. I didn’t come to Charlotte, but I went to a few other teams so I knew what the workout was about.

(On the Bobcats)
I know a little bit about them. I know some of the guys on the team. I knew some of the coaching staff from when they worked at Philadelphia.

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/2008_draft_workouts_day1.html

By the way, the 2010 second round pick we've given to the Suns would stay with us. Because it's conditional and probably will have a very unlikely condition such as (top 50 protected). I don't see us being a playoff team in coming years. I remember Jake Voskuhl trade, when we acquired him a for a conditional second round pick which was top 55 protected!! It was virtually for nothing but salary dump for Suns.

[dav7z]

i agree that singletary was overlooked in this deal. i think felts not crash is the guy that is getting shopped and will inevitably get dealt. the emergence of dj is only making it easier to deal with the loss and singletary is hopefully getting a lot of burn in practice. with shannon brown still on board, i feel that a backcourt of dj-brown-singletary will be fine especially if it gets us a solid sg in return.

I can't understand thease statements now that Rich is gone. This is a team of wing players. Bell a starter for the Suns and a nice defender , Hes only played two games.
Carroll can hit the out side shot and a three point threat. S Brown atlethic can defend and score, Morrison has a big following on hear and if he gets his confidence back he could be a nice scorer. Augustin , Singletery . Thats six ? Six wings beside Felton .Are we saying none of those six wings are any good ay all.
I agree Singletery is badly underated and has a long fucture in the league . He could be Felts replacement . I have no problem with that either . Felts has more true value than any one on the team considering contracts .
But im not ready to through all of our wings in the trash after Bell playing just two games. Lets give the guy a few practices and a chance to fit in .

[polarcat]

i must be having a bad day converting my thoughts to type....haha. when i said a backcourt of dj-brown-singletary, i meant to say a pg rotation of those 3. i should double check my comments before posting b/c i feel like i'm a raja hater and i'm not.

[spectre]

i must be having a bad day converting my thoughts to type....haha. when i said a backcourt of dj-brown-singletary, i meant to say a pg rotation of those 3. i should double check my comments before posting b/c i feel like i'm a raja hater and i'm not.

Heh...I've had those days!

I admit I took your other post differently than your apparent intent, no doubt from all the other knee jerk reactions we've seen on the board lately.

Sorry about that.

[dav7z]

i must be having a bad day converting my thoughts to type....haha. when i said a backcourt of dj-brown-singletary, i meant to say a pg rotation of those 3. i should double check my comments before posting b/c i feel like i'm a raja hater and i'm not.


Have those days everday.

[Ghost Kat]

I'm also a fan, I've seen him make some big plays over the years and wasn't upset in picking him up in this deal. U have to give it to the FO this time, Letting J-Rich go was big, but we weren't cheated in the deal like everyone round the NBA has said. BTW Raymond is no franchise player. Just cuz you play your whole career some place doesn't mean anything...Bill Cartwright and AC Green to good examples. The team wouldn't have drafted Augustin with the 8th pick if they planned on keepin Raymond around. Thats to high and important a pick, But it paid off...just not for Ray.

[dnbman]

The team wouldn't have drafted Augustin with the 8th pick if they planned on keepin Raymond around. Thats to high and important a pick, But it paid off...just not for Ray.

While it didn't exactly say that Ray was the foreseeable starter, I don't think the pick or trading for Singletary mean Felton is leaving.

PG is one of the most important positions, and I think Brown just felt he needed options. Considering DJ has shown himself to be more of a scorer than a distributor, I'm not convinced they'd trade Ray unless they were getting something substantial in return.

Ultimately, anyone can be traded. However, I don't think Ray is on the block because we have two rookie pgs on the team and a guy better suited to slam dunk contests than running the show.

[G-Force for MVP]

he is not going to see the court unless there is an injury

[Ghost Kat]

Considering DJ has shown himself to be more of a scorer than a distributor, I'm not convinced they'd trade Ray unless they were getting something substantial in return.



DJ has the 3rd best assist/turn over % in the league. The two above him arent really the primary ballhandlers on the team. As a rookie i think he's done a pretty good job of getting team mates open shots. They just haven't hit them. Steve Nash couldn't do it if he didn't have people to finish. But just like Nash DJ can score too. He is basically the go 2 guy.
But Felton wants to be the go to guy. You can see that in tight games and he doesn't shine in the spot light.

[dnbman]

DJ has the 3rd best assist/turn over % in the league. The two above him arent really the primary ballhandlers on the team. As a rookie i think he's done a pretty good job of getting team mates open shots. They just haven't hit them. Steve Nash couldn't do it if he didn't have people to finish. But just like Nash DJ can score too. He is basically the go 2 guy.

Then why argue against Felton, who averages more assists to fg attempts than DJ?

DJ is great. But that's no reason to get rid of Felton who is extremely important (like tonight) to us winning.

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Felton/DJ are what we need on the team right now...

that aside..

anyone watch the game tonight ?

Singletary made two mistakes..one turnover and another near turnover off a bad pass

but his speed is pretty impressive...after his near turnover he basically ran a got the ball back and had a nice floater to score.

i hadn't seen him play before in perosn, but doesn't he seem faster than felton/DJ ?

[dnbman]

DJ has the 3rd best assist/turn over % in the league.

BTW... he doesn't. He's 38th and Raymond is 28th.

http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Assists.jsp?league=00&season=22008&conf=OVERALL&position=0&splitType=9&qualified=Y&yearsExp=-1&sortOrder=6&splitDD=All%20Teams

Again, DJ is good, but he's still been more of a scorer than a distributor.

You must have meant that he was 3rd for rookies. But, then, Rose really is the primary ball handler for his team.

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BTW... he doesn't. He's 38th and Raymond is 28th.

http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Assists.jsp?league=00&season=22008&conf=OVERALL&position=0&splitType=9&qualified=Y&yearsExp=-1&sortOrder=6&splitDD=All%20Teams

Again, DJ is good, but he's still been more of a scorer than a distributor.

don't you bring that weak tot action in here!

gotta take those with a grain of salt...brevin knight at #19

[dnbman]

don't you bring that weak tot action in here!

gotta take those with a grain of salt...brevin knight at #19

Fire with fire.

Yeah, but Knight's only playing 18 minutes a game. How many years does he have left?

[BRNC]

I like assist to TO on a pass since it takes other TO out of the equation and gives a better indication of how (particularly a PG) effective they are in a possible assist situation...Ray has a 4.2 and is #22 and DJ has a 3.8 and is #27 in that category...

http://www.82games.com/0809/RESORT7.HTM

[Muttley]

don't you bring that weak tot action in here!

gotta take those with a grain of salt...brevin knight at #19

mmm... salted tots...

[docend24]

don't you bring that weak tot action in here!

gotta take those with a grain of salt...brevin knight at #19Well if he is still like making a safe pass with no more than 2 seconds on the clock resulting in his assist, missed shot of the teammate, teammate's turnover or shot clock violation then it is surely understandable how he got this AST/TO ratio. :cool: