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ballwhore
12-16-2008, 10:00 PM
D.J. needs to play more than 28 minutes. He can handle the workload

ohara831
12-16-2008, 10:14 PM
I was thinking the same thing. When he was getting more minutes before Bell came, he was getting into the game faster and getting into a rhythm. When Bell starts, he doesn't get in until the last 2 minutes of the qtr, and he tries to rush to get going.

Bell should come off the bench. Let DJ and Ray start at guards.

dnbman
12-16-2008, 10:18 PM
I was thinking the same thing. When he was getting more minutes before Bell came, he was getting into the game faster and getting into a rhythm. When Bell starts, he doesn't get in until the last 2 minutes of the qtr, and he tries to rush to get going.

Bell should come off the bench. Let DJ and Ray start at guards.

I don't know. If you put both guys in from start, does DJ have enough energy to hit those free throws? One of DJ and Ray has to sit a bit in the first half. I like that Brown's been starting with Felton and then letting DJ take most of the second. Then they're both fairly fresh for the second half.

I wonder how long Bell will start though.

ballwhore
12-16-2008, 10:39 PM
Ill start D.J & Bell let Felton come off the bench for either one of the two....

dnbman
12-16-2008, 10:46 PM
Ill start D.J & Bell let Felton come off the bench for either one of the two....

As someone's already said, it's not who starts, but who finishes. Either way, somebody has to take a break.

I don't see Augustin getting the start over Felton until he clearly outplays him every game, which he doesn't. Though shooting poorly, Felton has been impressing Brown of late with his determination and the other things he does.

Maybe it will happen though. Augustin was certainly clutch tonight. Starting him doesn't help him perform better in the final 10 minutes though.

ballwhore
12-16-2008, 10:55 PM
True I can agree with its not who starts, but Augustin needs to play more minutes and as far as out playing Felton reverse the minutes and lets see...I haven't missed a game yet so on one hand I see things your way on the other..Phewy!

SWedd523
12-16-2008, 11:04 PM
We don't need to give him too many minutes. He's going to slow down when that "rookie wall" comes along if he logs too many heavy minutes. I'm absolutely fine with having a three man rotation with Felton getting the bulk, DJ right there after him with Bell. I don't want our brightest spot to hit that wall hard and be less effective for the rest of the season, we'll really depend on him for our playoff push

dnbman
12-16-2008, 11:07 PM
True I can agree with its not who starts, but Augustin needs to play more minutes and as far as out playing Felton reverse the minutes and lets see...I haven't missed a game yet so on one hand I see things your way on the other..Phewy!

Maybe things would change. But there per minute stats don't suggest so.

This is what I think and I'll leave the issue alone in the myriad threads covering the topic:

Felton is a great pg who is very inconsistent with his shot, making his shot selection rather dubious. If he was more consistent, I don't think the selection would be a problem. However, I think his hot nights make him take more shots than he should on his cold nights. Yet, he's been of the few significant scoring options since he's been on the team. So, I'm hoping that his shooting tendencies will work themselves out. He was shooting 42% through the first few weeks of the season and his shooting has gone down with all of the turbulence in the roster of late. I don't know if the two things are connected, but there is a correlation.

Meanwhile, Augustin is a terrific guard who makes some nice passes. However, he's made a name for himself primarily through scoring. His per 48 assist rate is 7, which isn't bad, but isn't amazing either. Felton's is 8 and he plays better defense and rebounds much better.

Now, DJ can score a lot more than Felton with his penchant for the three ball, which should be considered. However, Brown isn't a big advocate of the three ball; he'd rather see guys pass it until a better shot opens up or attack the rim. Neither guard has been especially adept at that, though DJ's ft% gives him the edge. (Felton actually has a higher % within 8 feet of the basket than DJ.)

So, my point is, Felton offers more across the board than DJ does right now. As such, I don't think that Brown would start DJ over Felton until DJ became a clearly better contributor than Felton, especially now that we have several new faces in the mix.

Who knows though; maybe Brown will start DJ next game.

BobcatsAllDay
12-16-2008, 11:36 PM
Maybe things would change. But there per minute stats don't suggest so.

This is what I think and I'll leave the issue alone in the myriad threads covering the topic:

Felton is a great pg who is very inconsistent with his shot, making his shot selection rather dubious. If he was more consistent, I don't think the selection would be a problem. However, I think his hot nights make him take more shots than he should on his cold nights. Yet, he's been of the few significant scoring options since he's been on the team. So, I'm hoping that his shooting tendencies will work themselves out. He was shooting 42% through the first few weeks of the season and his shooting has gone down with all of the turbulence in the roster of late. I don't know if the two things are connected, but there is a correlation.

Meanwhile, Augustin is a terrific guard who makes some nice passes. However, he's made a name for himself primarily through scoring. His per 48 assist rate is 7, which isn't bad, but isn't amazing either. Felton's is 8 and he plays better defense and rebounds much better.

Now, DJ can score a lot more than Felton with his penchant for the three ball, which should be considered. However, Brown isn't a big advocate of the three ball; he'd rather see guys pass it until a better shot opens up or attack the rim. Neither guard has been especially adept at that, though DJ's ft% gives him the edge. (Felton actually has a higher % within 8 feet of the basket than DJ.)

So, my point is, Felton offers more across the board than DJ does right now. As such, I don't think that Brown would start DJ over Felton until DJ became a clearly better contributor than Felton, especially now that we have several new faces in the mix.

Who knows though; maybe Brown will start DJ next game.

This post should be set aside and labeled the "DJ & Ray debate". Great breakdown of our two PG's. These two have been by far our brightest spot this year (Oak's offensive production of late would come in 2nd) and without a doubt our strongest position.

ohara831
12-16-2008, 11:36 PM
I do agree that it is more important who is playing at the end of the game rather than the beginning. And I am not advocating benching Ray. I think Bell is the one who should be coming off the bench. Maybe that is what he needs to take the presure off. B/C he has been horrid since coming to Charlotte. I'm not saying decrease Ray's minutes, I'm saying decrease Bell's.

teej
12-16-2008, 11:37 PM
I think as long as they all play, it doesn't matter who starts. I'm fine with Raja starting as long as he doesn't take bad shots (which he needs to work on) and Felton is overall a better player...D.J. is the future, not the Now

G-Force for MVP
12-16-2008, 11:52 PM
bell should come of the bench especially after getting ejected

bellringer21
12-17-2008, 05:42 AM
http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthread.php?p=105636#post105636

I'm posting the thread I started last week....DJ should start and Bell off the bench. Once Bell was ejected, DJ played the last 45 minutes straight....and he played well. DJ shouldnt play under 30 minutes each game from now on (unless foul trouble....but how often has that happened?)

Worried about two PG starting? Just make sure one of them is on the floor at all times....I coach high school basketball and its not all that hard to do it.

bellringer21
12-17-2008, 05:55 AM
I don't know. If you put both guys in from start, does DJ have enough energy to hit those free throws? One of DJ and Ray has to sit a bit in the first half. I like that Brown's been starting with Felton and then letting DJ take most of the second. Then they're both fairly fresh for the second half.

I wonder how long Bell will start though.

DJ played 45 minutes tonight, missing the first 8 minutes. He wasnt tired when he hit 3 FTA to tie the game at the end of regulation.....and I didnt see any signs of fatigue. Im sure if DJ starts he will get a break during the game and play less minutes than last night. He showed yesterday that being tired isnt a reason to keep him from the starting lineup.

dnbman
12-17-2008, 07:02 AM
DJ played 45 minutes tonight, missing the first 8 minutes. He wasnt tired when he hit 3 FTA to tie the game at the end of regulation.....and I didnt see any signs of fatigue. Im sure if DJ starts he will get a break during the game and play less minutes than last night. He showed yesterday that being tired isnt a reason to keep him from the starting lineup.

But that's one game. We don't want to be playing DJ 40+ minutes night after night.

What do I know? Maybe we do.

ballwhore
12-17-2008, 07:20 AM
Mayo plays 37 per and Rose 39 per game...Who cares about a rookie wall when your 8-18..As I see it the more he plays the better he'll get at running the offense which leads to better decisions and more assist..You can tell a person to do something or let them watch it a thousand times but until they do it for themselves over and over again they won't have it down.

bellringer21
12-17-2008, 08:00 AM
But that's one game. We don't want to be playing DJ 40+ minutes night after night.

What do I know? Maybe we do.

I'm not advocating DJ to play 40+ each night.....just more than the 28 or 25 he got in the two games since Bell got here. In my ideal situation he would start and play about 35-39 minutes a game (assuming the game isn't a blow out). Anyone getting over 40 minutes a night is too heavy a workload....especially for a rookie.

Call me nuts, but I'm starting to believe that DJ may be our best player....or soon will be.

JamieMcNeill
12-17-2008, 08:44 AM
IVE DONE IT!

IVE SEEN THE LIGHT!

found another positive in our trade.
DJ has now become our best scorer and without Jrich he is BLOSSOMING
part of the plan?
LB you wily bastard.
:biggrin:

BobCatsFanInTx
12-17-2008, 09:46 AM
I do agree that it is more important who is playing at the end of the game rather than the beginning. And I am not advocating benching Ray. I think Bell is the one who should be coming off the bench. Maybe that is what he needs to take the presure off. B/C he has been horrid since coming to Charlotte. I'm not saying decrease Ray's minutes, I'm saying decrease Bell's.Raja has not been very good in one game and less than a quarter of another game so far but let's not throw the guy under the bus just yet. I agree that he doesn't seem to be ready to start. Maybe coming off the bench is what he needs to get his mojo working again. When this trade happened it was said how Raja hadn't even been a shell of himself this season in Phoenix. I am guessing coach Brown was hoping reuniting Raja with himself would get Raja back to playing the way he once did.

So Ohara, I basically agree with you about Raja but I just want to say that us Bobcats fans need to show a little patience with Raja. He really hasn't played enough for us to make a judgment about his abilities or lack thereof. Give him a handful of games and by that time we should have a clear idea as to what he will bring us. I think Raja just needs to find his confidence again. He was lost on the Phoenix roster this season as to how much he could contribute. With D'Antoni both Raja and Diaw knew their roles and were solid if not great contributors to the Phoenix team. Raja is used to coming off the bench so he probably would do better at that role for the Bobcats. Diaw was bottled up pretty good by the Bulls but just his ability to score some in the low post helps the Bobcats. Juwan will be a wonderful addition. He isn't going to light up the score board on most nights but his experience and intangibles will be priceless. He will command double teams inside and his mid range shooting skill will help open things up for others.

I think this team could eliminate two thorns in our side. May and Morrison. Neither has been very good. We saw some signs with AmMo but May should just go home and take the money he has made and never look back. You would never know that May and Felton were teammates on a championship college team. There seems to be no chemistry between the two. Morrison may turn things around but if he is going to do so he better do it soon. I don't think Larry Brown is going to put up with him for long if he doesn't. We can't get much out of him but he sure as hell can't be replaced by anybody that's much worse than what AmMo's overall contributions have been so far in his career.

By the way, I was and to a certain extent still am an AmMo fan but my patience has a limit and AmMo's about reached my patience level. If he does well in another system on another team in the West I would be all for that. So far things just aren't working in Charlotte.

docend24
12-17-2008, 03:06 PM
Call me nuts, but I'm starting to believe that DJ may be our best player....or soon will be.
I was thinking the same. That's why I like both his nicknames.

1) The Saint
- a New Orleans reference
- and he really is a salvation for this franchise; we can see the light now
(- Augustin is accidentally a name of one saint)
2) Giggles
- rookie hazing reference
- I have a grin from ear to ear everytime I think about how well we drafted

docend24
12-17-2008, 03:11 PM
By the way, I was and to a certain extent still am an AmMo fan but my patience has a limit and AmMo's about reached my patience level. If he does well in another system on another team in the West I would be all for that. So far things just aren't working in Charlotte.
I guess it has more to do with who are our best 3pt shooter (or better who should be) since we have an above average passing big man in Diaw. And Amoo in comparison to Hammer is not really a spot up shooter. His floaters are not as effective in the new system than in pre-trade system. I guess.

dav7z
12-17-2008, 03:23 PM
D.J. needs to play more than 28 minutes. He can handle the workload

I see this thread after ever game , the same thread, I have become a DJ 14 fan to but the kid played 45 mins last night . How many mins per game do you guys want him to play . Over the last ten games hes averaged over 32 . How much is enough ?

docend24
12-17-2008, 03:28 PM
53+. Didn't you know?

dav7z
12-17-2008, 03:34 PM
53+. Didn't you know?


Damn i should have known 53+ sounds right

JamieMcNeill
12-17-2008, 05:20 PM
Damn i should have known 53+ sounds right

I want the Saint playing for at least an hour after the game.
never too late to work on your game.

Ghost Kat
12-17-2008, 10:28 PM
Anyone who has read anything I've post bout Felton knows i'm truely upset with him. Now thats theres a better PG people are seeing Felton for all he really is. He's not playin any better or worse then he usually does. Thats the point. Felton was hyped by fans and himself to be a leader and better player. When it's time for him to do that he's still a high C low B point guard. I like his energy and effort, He's a 3rd yr starter, let him keep starting that can only help DJ this year. But all problems i had with him during the summer , I still have. Felton has proved me right all year, and theat makes me sad cuz it ony hurts my team.

Muttley
12-18-2008, 03:22 AM
I see this thread after ever game , the same thread, I have become a DJ 14 fan to but the kid played 45 mins last night . How many mins per game do you guys want him to play . Over the last ten games hes averaged over 32 . How much is enough ?
^The gospel...

don't exhaust the saint.

Ampsportsduo
12-18-2008, 04:27 AM
Felton was hyped by fans and himself to be a leader

It had nothing to do with LB coming to him in training camp and wanting him to take more a leadership role.

110oldeast
12-18-2008, 08:28 AM
Actually, the only consistent thing is your personal vendetta. The reality is that DJ has benefitted from playing alongside Felton as much of his 3 pt shooting success has come off of playmaking from Felton. You've gone out of your way to dismiss any positives of Felton while trying to lay a disproportionate amount of blame his way. The 2 of them have done well with each other, b/c they create easier opportunities for each other.

Both guys have had ups and downs, but one guy's downs are talked around while the other's are harped upon. Much of this thread is not even about Felton sitting as much as it is about DJ getting more minutes at the expense of others. However, you've taken it back to an "I'm been proven right about Felton" thread.



Anyone who has read anything I've post bout Felton knows i'm truely upset with him. Now thats theres a better PG people are seeing Felton for all he really is. He's not playin any better or worse then he usually does. Thats the point. Felton was hyped by fans and himself to be a leader and better player. When it's time for him to do that he's still a high C low B point guard. I like his energy and effort, He's a 3rd yr starter, let him keep starting that can only help DJ this year. But all problems i had with him during the summer , I still have. Felton has proved me right all year, and theat makes me sad cuz it ony hurts my team.

JamieMcNeill
12-18-2008, 08:57 AM
yea. without a real sg who is worth anything(at this point, im giving bell the benefit of the doubt) i just to see more of that felton dj backcourt. im not hating on felts just saying dj needs to be out there more.

isnt saying you can use up all of a saints power blasphemy? :D

ballwhore
12-18-2008, 10:02 AM
First off the reason I posted this thread was not because I wanted DJ to play 45 minutes or more every night. But just like tuesday night you can see what more minutes allows him to do. Im saying he should not be playing under 35-40 and for sure not under 30 minutes. Smart asses!!!! I don't care if its at the exspense of Felton or Bell let him play just like Rose and Mayo.

bellringer21
12-18-2008, 12:52 PM
I see this thread after ever game , the same thread, I have become a DJ 14 fan to but the kid played 45 mins last night . How many mins per game do you guys want him to play . Over the last ten games hes averaged over 32 . How much is enough ?

He has averaged 32 because of injuries and ejections. The first two games with Bell he played 28 and 25. I think DJ should get 35-40 each game. I dont think there is any reason (unless foul trouble or blowouts) where he should get under 30 minutes in any game.

Ghost Kat
12-18-2008, 06:35 PM
Actually, the only consistent thing is your personal vendetta.


I'd thought by now when you responded to me it would be something intelligent and be worth a debate. To have a vendetta against Felton he would have had to do something to me, So you sound silly. All I did was point out true facts.

Whatever thread it's posted under i said what i wanted to say... Am I wrong?? You haven't put up any reasons why Felton isn't the leader he's suppose to be. I really hope we trade him to the Warriors for one of their bigs like Randolph

But since it's a DJ minutes thread... no He's getting enough minutes, If LB wants him to have more i'm fine with that i just don't want him getting burned out early trying to play two roles.

110oldeast
12-19-2008, 01:35 AM
I've posted plenty intelligent points whether you choose to recognize them or not. And Felton has been a leader that has worked alongside DJ even when he could have simply taken his presence as a threat. He has constantly taken on the tougher defensive challenge and played whatever role necessary for the team. He may not have lived up to your personal standards in the process, but he has shown leadership qualities during this transitional period.

Furthermore, the way you attempt to blame every loss on Felton and fail to give him any credit makes it seem as though he has done something to you. If pointing that out makes me seem silly to you, so be it.



I'd thought by now when you responded to me it would be something intelligent and be worth a debate. To have a vendetta against Felton he would have had to do something to me, So you sound silly. All I did was point out true facts.

Whatever thread it's posted under i said what i wanted to say... Am I wrong?? You haven't put up any reasons why Felton isn't the leader he's suppose to be. I really hope we trade him to the Warriors for one of their bigs like Randolph

But since it's a DJ minutes thread... no He's getting enough minutes, If LB wants him to have more i'm fine with that i just don't want him getting burned out early trying to play two roles.

Ghost Kat
12-19-2008, 06:23 PM
Those were more like talking poiint instead of reason why Felton has been a leader. I have good reason to blame some loses on Felton when he tries to be the go to man in the 4th and misses shots & turns the ball over. He takes needless shots. Felton is getting undue credit for "helping" DJ. But what else was he going to do?? If he didn't threat DJ as a equal HE would be the one looked bad on so all the things you listed only Reflect back on Raymond and his attitude. I mean he does want to play, So he better do what it takes. What credit does Felton deserve really? I may be hard on him but thats becuase I was SOOOOO excited when he was drafted. I love UNC so getting two from the championship team was a dream come true... Look what has happened. Sean May is as in shape as a dinosaur. Felton is a second team PG at best, So yes I'm going to keep telling the truth bout Felton....This we just wont agree on

docend24
12-19-2008, 07:59 PM
Sean May is as in shape as a dinosaur.
Quite the opposite dinosaurs are just bones...

Ghost Kat
12-19-2008, 08:07 PM
Quite the opposite dinosaurs are just bones...


Show me a Dino that can run up and down the court and i'll trade you Sean May.
He's bout as useful as those bones

Ampsportsduo
12-19-2008, 08:15 PM
I have good reason to blame some loses on Felton when he tries to be the go to man in the 4th and misses shots & turns the ball over.

Larry draws up many of the plays late in the game and if he didn't trust Ray to be on the court... he would put him on the bench! This team has playes all year without a go-to scorer and many times Ray has had the ball in his hands with the shot clock running down. He has made mistakes late in some games, but what player on this team hasn't?


Felton is getting undue credit for "helping" DJ.

Unless you're at every practice this is a baseless claim that goes against the comments of members of the team.


What credit does Felton deserve really?

Being singled out by LB as the only player hustling during the Cleveland game, he's improved his rebounding, and is constantly adjusting the demands of LB. I don't think some people comprehend how difficult this offense is compared to anything that has been run by this team in the first five years. If you watch closely, every player has been confused on the court our unsure of what to do next at various points this season.


Felton is a second team PG at best

That's why a team leading it's division has expressed interest in him. If this team had more compotent scorers, Ray's weaknesses wouldn't be so glaring, but you can say that about 100% of the players in the NBA.


So yes I'm going to keep telling the truth bout Felton

I look forward to this change.

Ampsportsduo
12-19-2008, 10:21 PM
In tonight's game, Raymond was on the court when the game was not in question and DJ was not. This could be an indication that the team is worried about the cumulative effect of the minutes on him as the season continues. With another game tomorrow the coaches appear to be protecting the kid from the grind of the back-to-back.

bellringer21
12-20-2008, 10:24 AM
I heard DJ rolled his ankle last night.....anyone hear of this?

The Charlotte Observer by Rick Bonnell states he might miss today's game.....not good.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/bobcats/story/426697.html

110oldeast
12-20-2008, 11:05 AM
I'll start by saying Felton has a lot to work on so that it doesn't come off as if I am calling him perfect or anything else ridiculous.

However, that post below sums up what I was saying about your opinion. It's based in large part on the UNC related emotion and not simply on objective (as much as any of us can be) reason. It evolved out of backlash. Furthermore, it is unfair how Felton's production is dragged down in perception b/c of May. The Bobcats never should have drafted him and I said that as a Carolina fan when it happened. I wanted Granger, but in fairness I also thought Emeka was more of a PF then, which I no longer do. The only thing I liked about the May pick was that it might help the franchise keep from tanking and put butts in the seat as I wanted to see them succeed.

However, it has set the franchise back (especially as we idiotically held out for his return) AND Felton in terms of perception. People unfairly always link him to May when their NBA careers have been NOTHING alike. Felton actually has been a very productive pick for this franchise, finishing only 2nd to Paul in rookie of the week awards his first year (I guess he had to not be a bum at somepoint), playing pg and helping lead the franchise to the few 4 and 5 game win streaks that it has had while also being very productive in some of the biggest wins the Bobcats have had.

The irony is that the Bobcats have made 7 1st round picks (not counting Brandan Wright) and Felton has only been less productive than 1--Okafor (although more consistently healthy) and yet he gets more crap than most. It's not irrelevant that he has been the only of the 1st 4 picks to be consistently healthy (not to mention Wallace) and yet he is evaluated in a vacuum. Being durable and actually playing the games has actually hurt him in terms of perception.

If you cannot find any value in Felton and say he deserves credit for anything, it only reiterates my point that your opinion is emotionally driven by things beyond his play. Does he ever frustrate me? Hell yeah. Part of that is b/c of plays he makes (just like every other Bobcat). Part of that is b/c I have seen his potential and want him to excel and appreciate the do anything for the team my body be damned approach he has. And part of that is b/c I know that polarizing posters are going to exaggerate his mistakes and extrapolate them to his total career ignoring his positives. As another poster said, do you really think Larry or any of the coaches before would continue to put him out there and allow him to do the things he has if it wasn't partially by design ? The truth is that he has missed in 4th quarters just like every other Bobcat. Conversely, he has also had plenty of big 4th quarter moments that have been positive in helping the team win which is why the coaches have continued to put him in that situation. Folks can ignore them and I know they will, but it's the truth. The guy ain't Mariano Rivera by any means, but also isn't Mitch Williams after Joe Carter ruined him.

Now, if you wanna say, damn I wish we had drafted Brandon Roy so we had a clear closer and shotmaker in the 4th quarter, I could agree with you. But this notion that Felton just says "screw everybody, I'm gonna do what I want" is silly. The idea that coaches would continually allow him to do this without any redirection is sillier. The idea that he deserves no credit for anything trumps them both.


What credit does Felton deserve really? I may be hard on him but thats becuase I was SOOOOO excited when he was drafted. I love UNC so getting two from the championship team was a dream come true... Look what has happened. Sean May is as in shape as a dinosaur. Felton is a second team PG at best, So yes I'm going to keep telling the truth bout Felton....This we just wont agree on

Ghost Kat
12-20-2008, 01:48 PM
I have to disagree that as fans , me in particular don't get on the other players just as much. We talk about Okafor not being a offensive force and getting his shot blocked all the time on this site. I might have gone to far saying Raymond deserves NO credit... but it seems people are giving to much undue credit. Ray isn't trash i've said that, But can you really say he has been worth a # 5 pick. Yes he's linked to Sean May BTW they are college team mates who came to this team at the same time. Of course people are going to link their careers. Felton has been healthy, Sean May hasn't, only reason Felton has been more productive. Of course you produce when you actually play a game.

Yes, Felton is a second team pg, saying some team wants him doesn't shot him up to first team. Not one of you would vote if given a chance to place Felton with 1st team nba honors. A point was made that LB trusts Felton and thats why he doesn't bench him or complain when he takes bad shots. Seriously? What other option does LB have? Who is he going to put in Felton's place? Raja maybe, but he has struggled alittle since getting here.

Back to undue credit, Many posters on this site have been sayin Felton is helping DJ. I agree, But to say he didn't have to help or he could have been an ass about it is silly. You really think the team or LB would put up with that. It doesn't help anyone , mainly doesn't help the team.

Yes, I have bias for and against Felton for many reasons. I watched all his college yrs and pro yrs. He's the same player, exactly the same player. Now my bias has nothing to do with the truth, You can pick and choose but that doesn't change the fact that Felton is a 2nd team PG at best. DJ as a rookie has better potential to be a 1st team PG then Felton wit 3 yrs under his belt. Felton's contract is up next year...What are your reasons to bring him back if we find a better fit for the team?

bellringer21
12-20-2008, 02:07 PM
I have to disagree that as fans , me in particular don't get on the other players just as much. We talk about Okafor not being a offensive force and getting his shot blocked all the time on this site. I might have gone to far saying Raymond deserves NO credit... but it seems people are giving to much undue credit. Ray isn't trash i've said that, But can you really say he has been worth a # 5 pick. Yes he's linked to Sean May BTW they are college team mates who came to this team at the same time. Of course people are going to link their careers. Felton has been healthy, Sean May hasn't, only reason Felton has been more productive. Of course you produce when you actually play a game.

Yes, Felton is a second team pg, saying some team wants him doesn't shot him up to first team. Not one of you would vote if given a chance to place Felton with 1st team nba honors. A point was made that LB trusts Felton and thats why he doesn't bench him or complain when he takes bad shots. Seriously? What other option does LB have? Who is he going to put in Felton's place? Raja maybe, but he has struggled alittle since getting here.

Back to undue credit, Many posters on this site have been sayin Felton is helping DJ. I agree, But to say he didn't have to help or he could have been an ass about it is silly. You really think the team or LB would put up with that. It doesn't help anyone , mainly doesn't help the team.

Yes, I have bias for and against Felton for many reasons. I watched all his college yrs and pro yrs. He's the same player, exactly the same player. Now my bias has nothing to do with the truth, You can pick and choose but that doesn't change the fact that Felton is a 2nd team PG at best. DJ as a rookie has better potential to be a 1st team PG then Felton wit 3 yrs under his belt. Felton's contract is up next year...What are your reasons to bring him back if we find a better fit for the team?

I'm probably the biggest DJ supporter on here but I give Felton his due. I think he is better than a 2nd team PG and there are many other teams where he can start. I don't believe there are 29 PG's better than him in the league. Is he a top 10 PG? Absolutely not.