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ballwhore
12-20-2008, 03:54 PM
I just got word two players will be traded next week....Im the man who posted the news about J-Rich and Dudley under Freak21 but I forgot my password info so now im ballwhore...I"ll give you guys a few clues since last time everybody popped off like a bunch of smart asses only to eat your words...Both were drafted in the top 15....Both have played in all games so far...Now sweat it out...Or not...Just remember the thread starter formly known as freak21 gets the info first...Holla

ALuhrs704
12-20-2008, 03:56 PM
okay....... this helps out alot. i now know EXACTLY what the bobcats are going to do......

BIGCatBobcat
12-20-2008, 04:01 PM
okay....... this helps out alot. i now know EXACTLY what the bobcats are going to do......

exactly. awesome, like we don't have what 4-5 guys picked in the top 15, and why would i care about May, Morrison leaving? Who is coming in?

MilZo
12-20-2008, 04:08 PM
exactly. awesome, like we don't have what 4-5 guys picked in the top 15, and why would i care about May, Morrison leaving? Who is coming in?

He's saying that "Both have played in all games so far", May obviously doesn't qualify, and Morrison has missed one game too so...

DJ, Okafor and Felton are the only that played all the games and I have a feeling that DJ isn't involved.

spectre
12-20-2008, 04:11 PM
Felton (5th pick) 27 games
Ammo (3rd pick) 26 games
Mek (2nd pick) 27 games
McMay (13th pick) 16 games
Crash (25th pick) 23 games
DJ (9th pick) 27 games

Since Mek is BYC does that mean we're trading Felton & DJ?

ballwhore
12-20-2008, 04:13 PM
Its going to surprise the sh#t out of ya'll...Its blockbuster not petty homeboy these are main contributors....The front office will gain even greater praise for this..Well at least I think so..Ill leave it at that!

Ampsportsduo
12-20-2008, 04:14 PM
Why so vague?

spectre
12-20-2008, 04:16 PM
No doubt...go on record and gain some credibility.

ballwhore
12-20-2008, 04:19 PM
Damn!!! Spectre you are on your sh#t...Since your so on it..Hell its two out of those three...Im finish! Talk to you guys around game time...

BIGCatBobcat
12-20-2008, 04:22 PM
I mean I'm going to bash someone who can't remember their password is telling us about a blockbuster trade involving DJ and Raymond as 2 of the best freakin PG's in the league (both 22 and 24 in the reb/ast/ppg amongs all guards in the East), this just seems dumb. Talk to me when it's done or propose it under a different name or something, don't just say "ugh I have been told of a vague awesome trade you wont believe"

BIGCatBobcat
12-20-2008, 04:24 PM
Damn!!! Spectre you are on your sh#t...Since your so on it..Hell its two out of those three...Im finish! Talk to you guys around game time...

I'm calling you Testicle Prostitute until you give us something substantial.

ballwhore
12-20-2008, 04:25 PM
Ampsportsduo it is my mission in life for you to refer to me as Ballwhore Almighty Newsbreaker....Last trade I broke you mocked me and never gave me my due...What you got this time....Why so vague? Thats it? I need a long intellectual paragraph from you...

ziggy
12-20-2008, 04:28 PM
I just got word two players will be traded next week....Im the man who posted the news about J-Rich and Dudley under Freak21 but I forgot my password info so now im ballwhore...I"ll give you guys a few clues since last time everybody popped off like a bunch of smart asses only to eat your words...Both were drafted in the top 15....Both have played in all games so far...Now sweat it out...Or not...Just remember the thread starter formly known as freak21 gets the info first...Holla

I call bullshit:rolleyes:

ballwhore
12-20-2008, 04:31 PM
Ziggyy when this happens can I get a bunch of those green squares by my name...Why wait for Bonnel when you got me...You too shall eat your words AGAIN!!!

spectre
12-20-2008, 04:33 PM
If I remember right he did come out with the Richardson trade before anyone else, tho I don't think it was this much ahead of time.


Damn!!! Spectre you are on your sh#t...Since your so on it..Hell its two out of those three...Im finish! Talk to you guys around game time...

If it involves Mek then we can only take back half of his salary in trade...which would fall in with your "blockbuster" description. The trades would have to be at the least inside of the 12-15 million (that's at Mek's salary X 1/2 plus players).

Something like this (just an example...not promoting it):

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2816~294~883~2211~2753~568~239 9&teams=30~30~30~8~8~8~8&te=&cash=

Mek/Hammer/Nazr/Felton

for

Wallace/Hamilton/Bynum

Hopefully they can come up with something better than this o'course.

bobcats_express
12-20-2008, 04:43 PM
first, how do we know this guy is even on the money
next, if a trade like this goes down, it better be for quality players

docend24
12-20-2008, 04:46 PM
I think that now it is time for Ham's "i wouldn't trade DJ for two all-stars". (check realgm board if don't know what I'm talking about)

ziggy
12-20-2008, 04:46 PM
Ziggyy when this happens can I get a bunch of those green squares by my name...Why wait for Bonnel when you got me...You too shall eat your words AGAIN!!!

If this happens, then I'll put a graphic by your name that says "Prophet", "Basketball Nostradamus" or whatever you'd like.

But I just can't see them trading 2 of those 3 players... Ain't happening.

ballwhore
12-20-2008, 04:50 PM
Who said dj and raymond numbnuts..Shut your pie whole and watch it happen..I said two of the three and yep I forgot my password but guess what immmm bbbbbbaccccckk and I know shit you wish you did..

MilZo
12-20-2008, 04:51 PM
Ziggyy when this happens can I get a bunch of those green squares by my name...Why wait for Bonnel when you got me...You too shall eat your words AGAIN!!!

You'd definitely get a bunch of those green squares if you weren't so vague. Thanks for posting, but it would be nice to know which players (at least which team) is involved on the other side of the trade. Then you'd earn some real props.

Peace.

Muttley
12-20-2008, 04:54 PM
I'd love to believe you, testicle prostitute, but you haven't really said anything. You were right about the JRich thing, which was awesome for your self-esteem. You want green blocks? I'll rep you up twice if you tell us who it is, and it happens within a week.

Also, you will gain immense credibility among your fellow anonymous peers here at the BCP. I'll nominate you for Secretary-General for the United Nations here on Bobcats Planet.

So, who is it?

I assume one is Raymond. I'd think it's gotta be Mek before it's DJ, but those types of trades would typically hurt us unless it was players on rookie contracts, and quite a few people invloved (blockbuster, as you said).


Edit: Also, people might respect you and your "premonitions" more if you weren't such a dick about it. No need to be calling people names, that's childish.

bellringer21
12-20-2008, 04:54 PM
I call bullshit.....you may call the other trade, but that doesnt mean you are always right. If it did, why isnt the trade happening now? Why wait and watch someone get hurt and cancel the deal? It doesnt make any sense to wait if the trade is agreed to....its bad business (imo).

And for the record, saying two players will be traded isnt calling it. That doesnt really explain it.

spectre
12-20-2008, 05:03 PM
We're supposed to like it right?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~3016~2399~1977~2790&teams=28~28~28~30~30&te=&cash=

ammofan
12-20-2008, 05:04 PM
We're supposed to like it right?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~3016~2399~1977~2790&teams=28~28~28~30~30&te=&cash=

i even like!!!

ballwhore
12-20-2008, 05:05 PM
Do you guys even read or do you just post off of the thread title...I have given you three players to choose from...Thats info its just not all the info you want...Who else on here has broke a story before it went to the press..I know I did..So that deems me as credible...If I come out and say exactly which two ya"ll still going to write bullsh#t about how I dont know anything so I might as well have fun with it..Which I am..Hell you can choose to just ignore the thread and wait and see what happens..

ammofan
12-20-2008, 05:05 PM
would you just give us a clue of who it could possibly be that we get in return???? And hen during the week? Like it could be Monday or maybe as late as next saturday?

ammofan
12-20-2008, 05:07 PM
Do you guys even read or do you just post off of the thread title...I have given you three players to choose from...Thats info its just not all the info you want...Who else on here has broke a story before it went to the press..I know I did..So that deems me as credible...If I come out and say exactly which two ya"ll still going to write bullsh#t about how I dont know anything so I might as well have fun with it..Which I am..Hell you can choose to just ignore the thread and wait and see what happens..


i totally believe you man.......If you were right about the first trade than you WILL be right about this one.
But tell us at least who we may be RECEIVING. We all know who could be going out but.....maybe Bosh? Sheed?

Ampsportsduo
12-20-2008, 05:07 PM
Ampsportsduo it is my mission in life for you to refer to me as Ballwhore Almighty Newsbreaker

Only if you'll give me credit (and by credit I mean referring to me as The Prophet) for predicting that several people on this board will be surprised by various items this week. Some will be disappointed, some elated, and some will wonder why the hell someone would give an ornament as a gift. To give you a hint, there's shiny, colorful paper involved.


....Last trade I broke you mocked me and never gave me my due...

Forgive our collective skepticism when you mis-identified the trade in the title of your own thread. Even then, there was significant discussion on RealGM at the same time you "broke" it. You may or may not have been reading the site at the time, but it's certainly possible.


What you got this time....Why so vague?

I'm sorry that direct questions offend. Perhaps an ability to answer them with direct answers would net you more credibility. Besides, it's well known that trade talks are ongoing and the team's looking to make moves. Proclaiming it's happening this week when almost 90 more players become eligible to be traded could merely be an educated guess.


I need a long intellectual paragraph from you...

Better?

bellringer21
12-20-2008, 05:08 PM
We're supposed to like it right?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~3016~2399~1977~2790&teams=28~28~28~30~30&te=&cash=

You like that deal? Obviously Bosh is a top-notch player, but if we made that deal I would almost expect him to leave in 2 years....which puts us back into rebuilding mode. I highly doubt we move Felton and EO and feel the deal helps us.....

Ballwhore has done exactly what he wanted....get attention.

Ampsportsduo
12-20-2008, 05:09 PM
Do you guys even read or do you just post off of the thread title...I have given you three players to choose from...Thats info its just not all the info you want...Who else on here has broke a story before it went to the press..I know I did..So that deems me as credible...If I come out and say exactly which two ya"ll still going to write bullsh#t about how I dont know anything so I might as well have fun with it..Which I am..Hell you can choose to just ignore the thread and wait and see what happens..

It deems you desiring internet attention more than anything.

Muttley
12-20-2008, 05:10 PM
This kinda reminds me of John Edward (the guy who talks to dead people not the former senator).

"... I'm sensing the letter 'M.' Does the letter 'M' mean anything to anyone?"

How about this? Warmer?

CHA-GSW (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=378%7E3455%7E2789%7E3039%7E324 2%7E2753%7E568%7E2399&teams=30%7E30%7E30%7E30%7E30%7E9%7E9%7E9&te=&cash=)

You've given us info, for sure.
I'll have you know that 2+2=4. There I've given you almost as much info as you've given me. You wanna act like you're the man? Tell us what you know, and let's see what happens.

ammofan
12-20-2008, 05:11 PM
...Both were drafted in the top 15....Both have played in all games so far...

Are you speaking of our outgoing players or incoming?

spectre
12-20-2008, 05:13 PM
You like that deal? Obviously Bosh is a top-notch player, but if we made that deal I would almost expect him to leave in 2 years....which puts us back into rebuilding mode. I highly doubt we move Felton and EO and feel the deal helps us.....

Ballwhore has done exactly what he wanted....get attention.

Bird Rights. Money talks, and I think LB would build a team around him and DJ that could make some serious noise.

Both Felton & Ammo have been a disappointment. Mek has looked very good of late, but can we count on that to be the norm? With Diaw maybe we can. Still, I think it's easier to find another Mek than it is to find a Bosh.

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
12-20-2008, 05:15 PM
i hate to steer away from the subject but chris bosh coming to CLT is unlikely...jermaine is injured and the team is struggling, they could't possibly think adding two or three bobcat players would make them playoffs contenders

ammofan
12-20-2008, 05:16 PM
Diaw and Bosh would be great.......and DJ could average 10 ppg EASILY. Wallace would also be pretty good with them. but who would start at 2? Raja i guess but i dont think he is starting caliber.

spectre
12-20-2008, 05:17 PM
i hate to steer away from the subject but chris bosh coming to CLT is unlikely...jermaine is injured and the team is struggling, they could't possibly think adding two or three bobcat players would make them playoffs contenders

Heh, I know! We just get screwed so often (like every time) in trades that hell...I thought I'd make one where we actually come out!

kickazzz2000
12-20-2008, 05:17 PM
Ampsportsduo it is my mission in life for you to refer to me as Ballwhore Almighty Newsbreaker....Last trade I broke you mocked me and never gave me my due...What you got this time....Why so vague? Thats it? I need a long intellectual paragraph from you...

Ballwhore Almighty Newsbreaker...can we call you BAN for short?

spectre
12-20-2008, 05:18 PM
Ballwhore Almighty Newsbreaker...can we call you BAN for short?

:hysterical:

ballwhore
12-20-2008, 05:22 PM
Spectre I must say your quite witty my friend and pretty much dead on with your thoughts...Anyway, calling me BAN for short borders on the line of blasphemy....I shall be known and called Ballwhore Allmight Newsbreaker formly known as Freak21

docend24
12-20-2008, 05:30 PM
Since it is getting out of control --- ziggy could you please check ballwhore's and Freak's IPs. It does not mean anything still. But since you already said bullshit on the rumour I guess they are way different:)

I can't really believe that someone goes on board post a shocking rumour which turns out to be true, builds up a lot of credibility (which is one of major motivation to do such a thing) and then forget his password. In like 2 weeks. And of course he chooses a controversial nickname to get even more attention. I will believe it when I see it. Not we can't working on something and I'm sure it would be shoking to some degree but that how it is with Larry Brown.

He didn't even say if only those two players are outgoing from our POV. There is still this Felton+Nazr package.

ALong13
12-20-2008, 05:38 PM
I can't believe you guys have spent 4 pages on this guy...I seriously doubt Okafor or DJ gets traded...Felton and Wallace may, but not OKafor or DJ...if something happens tho I give the kid credit for getting it right, but right now I don't believe any of this and I believe this should be closed and move on to something else...

dnbman
12-20-2008, 06:03 PM
When next week? Next couple of days or after Christmas?

Also, what is this a done deal or just likely?

BIGCatBobcat
12-20-2008, 06:13 PM
I just like ripping a guy who makes stuff up on a message board. Especially after "I just got word" like he's Walter Cronkite or someone. It's like using "To the tune of $200,000" when Justin Timberlake got punked on well punk'd. You don't even remember your password, if in fact you are the guy from the other thing. There's a forgot my password link on the sign in, so we have concluded: a. you're not the same guy that broke the J-Rich trade. b. it's illogical to think ray and mek or dj or any combination there of would be traded c. your new name until said trade goes down is testicle prostitute. no more talking junk, we shall wait one week until this trade doesn't go down. Can we agree?

bing!
12-20-2008, 06:16 PM
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/ch_bing/troll.jpg
^ ballwhore/freak21/testicle prostitute/BAN...

Prove me wrong.

ChipsAHOY
12-20-2008, 06:29 PM
Registered just for this.
I think he is the same as Freak21.
It will probably seem kind of stupid, but look at how freak21 and ballwhore write their sentences. They both put put dots (....) between the words in their sentences. They both have the "I know all" tone. Look back at the jrich trade thread and see how freak writes compared to ballwhore. I think they are the same person.

If they are not, then ballwhore doesn't have a life and has tried way to hard to mimic freak21.

ziggy
12-20-2008, 06:30 PM
Since it is getting out of control --- ziggy could you please check ballwhore's and Freak's IPs. It does not mean anything still. But since you already said bullshit on the rumour I guess they are way different:)

yyyyyup :biggrin:

MattD
12-20-2008, 07:31 PM
clarification here: not the same?

teej
12-20-2008, 08:00 PM
yyyyyup :biggrin:

Yup as in different right?

Wanderlai
12-20-2008, 08:08 PM
Hmmmmmm....interesting. Guess we will have to wait and see what Santa brings us.

amour217
12-20-2008, 08:08 PM
Whether he's right or not, insulting members of this board isn't cool...or smart, for that matter. We're all cool with each other here and if you think you're gonna come here and dis us, you've got another thing coming. You're gonna be ham biscuit 2.0 before you know it

ziggy
12-20-2008, 08:33 PM
Yup as in different right?
Thats correct.

MattD
12-20-2008, 08:37 PM
plus 95% of nba trades are only final when theyre final, and change within minutes. Hence why the original guy posted only a few hours before it went public... so yeah most likely bullyish

FREAK21
12-20-2008, 09:00 PM
You all will give me my props next week....For the record I didn't get sh#t off of Real GM never even heard of that site until it was posted on my thread...Bigcatbob..you'll e-mail me or my alter ego with mad props just like last time..Holla

bing!
12-20-2008, 09:05 PM
dun-dun-dun...

The plot thickens.

MattD
12-20-2008, 09:29 PM
ill stick with my statement: nba trades are never final until theyre final

DanielWheeler
12-20-2008, 09:54 PM
Listen guys, the dude was right on the last one. He broke the news before it came out and it happened; that's straight fact.

Another fact is that time will only tell whether this guy goes 2 for 2 on breaking Bobcats trade news. I wouldn't be shocked to see them pull the trigger on a major deal involving top players on our roster minus Augustin.

Honestly, I could see Okafor and Felton leaving in a package. Many NBA people are talking about how the Bobcats overpaid for Okafor; so it's not out of the way to think that Okafor wouldn't be traded if the right deal happened to show up for the Bobcats' future.

To be fair, Okafor deserves to find himself on a contender because i'm not sure the Bobcats are ever going to win with this lineup or any combination of a majority of the players on this team.

I'll give this dude his due, but you better be right or this board is going to flame you to death. I just hope, if you're right, that the Bobcats get a deal that'll benefit them in the future.

jstar5
12-20-2008, 10:09 PM
I agree. Dude did get flamed when he broke the J-rich news and he was dead on. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

DirtyU11
12-20-2008, 10:40 PM
i think if i new some inside info i would mess with everyone too. this has been one of the most entertaining threads to read. i hope the dude is right because the team we currently have isnt going anywhere. a blockbuster trade that benifits us is something we really need right now and if the dude told us it might go away because all the trades that get leaked to the media havent happened for us this year.

BRNC
12-21-2008, 12:08 AM
You all will give me my props next week....For the record I didn't get sh#t off of Real GM never even heard of that site until it was posted on my thread...Bigcatbob..you'll e-mail me or my alter ego with mad props just like last time..Holla

Well...it actually posted on several sites about the same time...and "breaking a story" when it' s posted is kinda like..."I'm going to say I broke this story but not cite where it broke"...something like that I suppose...and has this guy actually claimed Ray and EO50 are being traded for Bosh...or is this "I did not say that you just guessed wrong"...or what exactly kinda immature game is being played?

teej
12-21-2008, 01:23 AM
Well...it actually posted on several sites about the same time...and "breaking a story" when it' s posted is kinda like..."I'm going to say I broke this story but not cite where it broke"...something like that I suppose...and has this guy actually claimed Ray and EO50 are being traded for Bosh...or is this "I did not say that you just guessed wrong"...or what exactly kinda immature game is being played?

No, he said 2/3 of Felton, Okafor, and Augustine would be part of a blockbuster deal bobcats fans are supposed to like...

Alex
12-21-2008, 01:34 AM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2389~2753~2399&teams=30~16~16&te=&cash=

Alex
12-21-2008, 01:36 AM
Augustin
Bell
Wallace
Diaw
Jefferson

hmmm....

BobcatsAllDay
12-21-2008, 01:39 AM
Augustin
Bell
Wallace
Diaw
Jefferson

hmmm....


That definitely answers the post scoring, just doesn't make sense on the other side.

Alex
12-21-2008, 01:56 AM
That definitely answers the post scoring, just doesn't make sense on the other side.

Minnesota is a team desperate to do something so I could definitely see them doing anything right now.

ALuhrs704
12-21-2008, 03:02 AM
I swear..... Unless we are getting someone in the caliber of all-star/superstar status, i will be pissed if we get rid of Mek. Besides what he brings to the court, he is my favorite player and would crush my spirits....... I guess i'd get over it though if it made the Bobcats win more games. I hope this guy is dicking with us, but I have a feeling he isnt and know i am at a crossroads of my life.............................................. .................................................
just playing, but if i had news like this id be trying to get it out ASAP cuz then theres a chance some1 else can get the info b4 u and booyaa nothin no cred.

mrtarheel
12-21-2008, 12:33 PM
My thing is if you know something give up the opposing team. Hints no names are out there but you still get the credit because if you get the team, you must have know. All this talking trash accounts for nothing. Sure you got the first but if you sleep someone else will get the credit you deserve. ILBIT I can see giving up Felts but not Okafor. If felts leaves we need a solid backup for DJ. I think it has to be between twoo or three teams. They need a strong defensive presence and a pg. I see Portland, Memphis and maybe the Lakers but I can't see how you could package something that works with the Lakers unless there is a third team.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2983~1994~2015~2795~2992~2753~ 3016~2399&teams=30~30~30~30~22~22~22~22&te=&cash=
Replacing Frye with LMA works also.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3206~3005~2794~2753~2399&teams=30~30~30~29~29&te=&cash=

FREAK21
12-21-2008, 12:59 PM
Didn't Larry Brown hand pick D.J....Uhmmmm!!!Sure did... So doubt if he'll trade him...:biggrin:

ballwhore
12-21-2008, 01:06 PM
FREAK21 your the greatest...Don't let your detractors knock you down keep giving us the inside scoop like only you can..I have serious man love for you brother and thank you for giving me the the scoop..LB is really putting his stamp on this team with this one...See you in the mirror

bing!
12-21-2008, 01:29 PM
^ you have waaaaaay too much free time on your hands buddy.

ballwhore
12-21-2008, 01:52 PM
I guess so..Says 40 post to 287 plus...Why are you viewing this thread?

MattD
12-21-2008, 01:57 PM
ballwhore freak. you are the greatest. i dont doubt what you heard is real... i just am not sure it will happen

ballwhore
12-21-2008, 02:01 PM
I will release half of the trade tomorrow 12pm cst

ballwhore
12-21-2008, 02:09 PM
Between 11:30 & 12:00 cst I need at least 70 people (There is a signifigance to this number)..Saying they believe in me and proclaiming I am "Ballwhore The Almighty Newsbreaker!"..Talk to you guys tomorrow 12pm cst sharp...

ALuhrs704
12-21-2008, 02:20 PM
I'll believe when I see it.......... and honestly your a bastard, cuz this is kinda funny and has me anxious just to hear what you have to say.

MattD
12-21-2008, 02:30 PM
nets have 64 million in salary... but cannot be vince carter

ammofan
12-21-2008, 03:05 PM
Between 11:30 & 12:00 cst I need at least 70 people (There is a signifigance to this number)..Saying they believe in me and proclaiming I am "Ballwhore The Almighty Newsbreaker!"..Talk to you guys tomorrow 12pm cst sharp...

i was one of the first to say i believe you....If nobody else supports you shoot me a pm and let me know what you know.....i will not spread the news

ziggy
12-21-2008, 03:15 PM
Between 11:30 & 12:00 cst I need at least 70 people (There is a signifigance to this number)..

Significance to the number 70 :g:

Holy Crap!?!?!? We must be trading for former Viking lineman Jim Marshall
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c354/seamusmcg/2005-1112%20Notre%20Dame%20vs%20Navy/November%2014%20-%20NFL%20Hall%20of%20Fame/IMG_0163.jpg

Shrimpy_Jackson
12-21-2008, 03:17 PM
Who cares?

MattD
12-21-2008, 03:26 PM
kings have 70 mill. that makes sense

kickazzz2000
12-21-2008, 03:30 PM
Denver is on I-70. CARMELO plays there.


Indianapolis is on I-70. They used to have J O'Neal who is now a teammate of CHRIS BOSH.

lol

ALong13
12-21-2008, 03:43 PM
Oh mighty whore,

70 is the new magic number? Last time I check it was 64, are moving it up now? But You have me interested, and I don't think you would have made a thread that got this many pages if you didn't know anything. So my whore, I believe in you.

Okafor (50) + Felton (20) = 70

There's your hint guys from the almighty, but very dirty whore... :)

kickazzz2000
12-21-2008, 03:45 PM
So the next question is what number is 70 being converted to?


11 would be nice :)
http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/

ChipsAHOY
12-21-2008, 03:47 PM
Oh mighty whore,

70 is the new magic number? Last time I check it was 64, are moving it up now? But You have me interested, and I don't think you would have made a thread that got this many pages if you didn't know anything. So my whore, I believe in you.

Okafor (50) + Felton (20) = 70

There's your hint guys from the almighty, but very dirty whore... :)

Oak plus augustin is 64. There is no way LB trades Augustin.
I just don't see us trading Oak though.

TheBeagle
12-21-2008, 03:52 PM
I have to say I kinda like what FREAK21/ballwhore is doing here. I gave FREAK21 his due for breaking the news on the PHX trade, so I have no reason to doubt what he says this time. Talking to MT last night, there's going to be more roster-shifting, which lends some credence to the timing of ballwhore's pronouncement. That said, if none of what he is telling us is true, he should be put either on probation or be kicked off alltogether: it's one thing to be breaking actual news/rumours, it's another to just be dicking around for shits 'n giggles.

But like I said, as of now, I have no reason to doubt you, FREAK!

Proudiddy
12-21-2008, 03:59 PM
I believe that Freak is credible, I don't think I posted in the last trade thread, but he has given me every reason to believe he has an inside source. That being said, I really hope this is for an all-star caliber player because if we're sending out Emeka, he's one of the few guy on our team that other teams value even with his salary.

I really hope we get an all-star type guy in return. Tell me, PLEASE FREAK!!! TELL ME!!! I feel like it's Christmas already and you won't let me unwrap my gifts after shaking the boxes around!

coordinator0
12-21-2008, 04:12 PM
Well, if Mek and Felts were traded it would almost HAVE to be for a big, right?

ALuhrs704
12-21-2008, 04:21 PM
You meant 11:30 pm, tonight right? at least i hope so........ U got me checking this every hour to see if you spilled the beans yet.

DirtyU11
12-21-2008, 04:34 PM
U got me checking this every hour to see if you spilled the beans yet.

i think everyone on this board is with you haha. im dying to see if we rip someone off for there best player or if we get screwed like usual. ahhhh! i cant take the suspense much more

Proudiddy
12-21-2008, 04:43 PM
Is there any significance to the time Freak has given us? Do certain players come available?

Shrimpy_Jackson
12-21-2008, 04:43 PM
Dammit! I keep finding myself coming back here. So I'm a hypocrite and I do care. I mean sure I'd like to know who it is because I think you're the same guy and were dead on, but it's like why don't you just act suave about it and become our best friend and insider who we shower with flapjacks and honeysuckles for being our Deep Throat. Flapjacks are highly enriching to the soul, and honeysuckles lends a sense of sweet yet sultry to the appearance. Who wants some Shrimps?

docend24
12-21-2008, 04:56 PM
I don't care. I'm just used to checking all the new posts on Bobcats talk board (well except "Bobcats on HD" and other channels lkie threads).

I can't imagine any trade with Nuggets but rumour was that LB wanted CArmelo in that draft and Dumars picked Darko despite. And I can't imagine how Crash, Boris and Melo would work out on one team. It would have to be a multiteam trade. Besides I don't like Melo as a person. Sucker puncher.

countryboi
12-21-2008, 05:00 PM
i feel like this thread is bullshit but i am drawn to it like a moth to a flame....want to see how this plays out.....kinda like watching a train wreak from afar

Weezy21
12-21-2008, 05:03 PM
Who said dj and raymond numbnuts..Shut your pie whole and watch it happen..I said two of the three and yep I forgot my password but guess what immmm bbbbbbaccccckk and I know shit you wish you did..

haha i love this guy

TheLegend
12-21-2008, 05:06 PM
How come this thread isn't closed yet? But anyway, if there was a trade going down wouldn't sites like hoopsworld cover it?

b-nukle
12-21-2008, 05:09 PM
hope this is a trade for a superstar

Jordan should get a raise if he pulls something like this one
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4881508

ALuhrs704
12-21-2008, 05:10 PM
haha i love this guy


haha dido.......

carmelo is a player i would take in a heart beat, but i dont see denver messing up what they have because they are on a role with billups. I think it has to be for a big man, and i dont see any big men that are young and dominant being traded. I would say amare stoudimire could fit cuz he wants to leave, but we just dealt with them. Man idk, ha just tell us!!!! I'll personally PM u and call u wat ever u want if you will let us know


And legend, i check all the hoop sites every day like inside hoops, and all those other ones and not one said anything about JRich rumor to suns so u cant base a trade off there being no rumor on other sites.

bing!
12-21-2008, 05:11 PM
if there was a trade going down wouldn't sites like hoopsworld cover it?
Not with the magic power this fella is wielding, it's stupendous. ::chokes on sarcasm::

Weezy21
12-21-2008, 05:22 PM
haha dido.......

i dont see any big men that are young and dominant being traded. I would say amare stoudimire could fit cuz he wants to leave, but we just dealt with them.

bosh seems like he wants out an toronto has to know he will bolt in free agency...so they prolly want to get sumthin out of it..an yea a trade for amare most likely wont happen, however we have tried acquiring him b4

ALuhrs704
12-21-2008, 05:34 PM
bosh seems like he wants out an toronto has to know he will bolt in free agency...so they prolly want to get sumthin out of it..an yea a trade for amare most likely wont happen, however we have tried acquiring him b4


Ya but what would make him want to stay in Charlotte? I would love bosh if we could sign him long term, but i dont know if we could and i think that'd be to risky.

TheLegend
12-21-2008, 05:44 PM
haha dido.......

carmelo is a player i would take in a heart beat, but i dont see denver messing up what they have because they are on a role with billups. I think it has to be for a big man, and i dont see any big men that are young and dominant being traded. I would say amare stoudimire could fit cuz he wants to leave, but we just dealt with them. Man idk, ha just tell us!!!! I'll personally PM u and call u wat ever u want if you will let us know


And legend, i check all the hoop sites every day like inside hoops, and all those other ones and not one said anything about JRich rumor to suns so u cant base a trade off there being no rumor on other sites.

But it just doesn't make any sense. If there was a trade going down why haven't we heard from it yet?

Wanderlai
12-21-2008, 06:20 PM
Funny how its more fun to check this thread, with the hopes of the Cats making a blockbuster trade, than to actually watch a Bobcats game. I'll be checking in tomorrow for "The News"

No way the Cats trade away DJ. If they can trade Oak and Felton for a star then I'm more than for it. I wouldnt be surprised to see some Carolina ties pulling off a trade.

ALuhrs704
12-21-2008, 06:36 PM
But it just doesn't make any sense. If there was a trade going down why haven't we heard from it yet?



I see what your saying, but alot times you hear these rumors about potential trades and stuff and 80% of the time it doesn't happen. And what guy is saying he is exclusive info about this trade, like he did with the j-rich trade. No sites had JRich trade info until it already happened. BUt if this is a concrete trade, then why havent they done it yet? i get what your saying with that.

neogenic
12-21-2008, 07:36 PM
Between 11:30 & 12:00 cst I need at least 70 people (There is a signifigance to this number)..Saying they believe in me and proclaiming I am "Ballwhore The Almighty Newsbreaker!"..Talk to you guys tomorrow 12pm cst sharp...


Significance to the number 70 :g:

Holy Crap!?!?!? We must be trading for former Viking lineman Jim Marshall
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c354/seamusmcg/2005-1112%20Notre%20Dame%20vs%20Navy/November%2014%20-%20NFL%20Hall%20of%20Fame/IMG_0163.jpg


kings have 70 mill. that makes sense


Denver is on I-70. CARMELO plays there.


Indianapolis is on I-70. They used to have J O'Neal who is now a teammate of CHRIS BOSH.

lol

Dennis Rodman is the only NBA player to have worn number 70. We need a power forward that loves to play D and rebound. The Worm will resurface and play for the Bobcats!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hopefully not the one in the dress.

JGib23
12-21-2008, 07:50 PM
While, I think the team needs to be tweaked from where it is now, I'm afraid of giving up on Emeka. For the first time in his career he is playing alongside someone that will make him better. Emeka has been playing with more heart lately and seems to be blossoming playing beside Boris.

Felton, I think we should trade while he has some value or keep him as some have suggested to a new contract in-line with a combo guard off the bench..

What could realistically could we get in return for Felton???

I believe this guy probably know something. He was the 1st to let us know on the Diaw/JRich trade although I believe he originally had one of the players wrong (can't remember which)

Oh Well. I hope if he's right that somehow in this deal we can dump one of the 3 (Ammo, Matt, or Nazr).

MattD
12-21-2008, 07:53 PM
can the god of information freak, let me know why if the trade was set it hasnt already gone through?

i stick with my original statement. Trades arent final until theyre final. none the less, I am enjoying the ride

teej
12-22-2008, 01:06 AM
I think he spoke too early maybe, but who knows.

With the whims of LB maybe it was concrete and LB backed out.

I'm looking forward to either a good trade or kicking this guy out of here

neogenic
12-22-2008, 01:18 AM
I have doubted him and now I bow before him. One of seventy worshipers for the information he possesses. I am not worthy to have enlightenment, but I desire the truth.

lancer
12-22-2008, 03:01 AM
can i guess


70 = Sixers?

I'm right. ballwhore. Tell me.

or


bargani 7 = 7-0 ft.

spectre
12-22-2008, 09:07 AM
Actually the Sixers do have someone I think LB would like:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=91~2799~2211~2753~2399&teams=30~30~20~20~20&te=&cash=

krazyrumpshaker
12-22-2008, 09:40 AM
I wonder if this is going to be a 2 team trade or if several teams will be involved? Also, it may not be a multi-team trade, it could be 2 seperate trades.

amour217
12-22-2008, 09:45 AM
zomg! it could be, like, a 70-team trade! Long story short, we'll deal Matt Carroll for Albert Pujols

DanielWheeler
12-22-2008, 09:48 AM
This guy more than likely has inside info for the suns. Think about it guys, this guy doesn't grace us with his info till the suns made a deal with us and now amare is rumored here.

coordinator0
12-22-2008, 10:04 AM
Actually the Sixers do have someone I think LB would like:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=91~2799~2211~2753~2399&teams=30~30~20~20~20&te=&cash (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=91%7E2799%7E2211%7E2753%7E2399&teams=30%7E30%7E20%7E20%7E20&te=&cash)=

I'm not a big fan of dealing Okafor unless we get a true big in return. Think of a front line of Wallace, Diaw, and Brand. We would be smaller than GS when the made the playoffs a couple of years ago, and much less effective IMO.

amour217
12-22-2008, 10:14 AM
I'm not a big fan of dealing Okafor unless we get a true big in return. Think of a front line of Wallace, Diaw, and Brand. We would be smaller than GS when the made the playoffs a couple of years ago, and much less effective IMO.

Not to mention that Brand has a shoulder injury right now that will put him out for a little while, so I don't think that's happening

ammofan
12-22-2008, 10:19 AM
This guy more than likely has inside info for the suns. Think about it guys, this guy doesn't grace us with his info till the suns made a deal with us and now amare is rumored here.

Amare? since when?

Chef
12-22-2008, 10:33 AM
if we turned felton and mek into amare this would happen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEpZR9XgV48

murphman
12-22-2008, 10:36 AM
Too much speculation to get worked up over this. But, for the sake of arguement if the source is credible, any chance Boozer could be coming this way?

amour217
12-22-2008, 10:36 AM
if we turned felton and mek into amare this would happen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEpZR9XgV48

Only if the deal came with a contract extension, because Amare is a free agent in 2010, and I'd hate to make such a huge deal for a rental and then be stuck right back at square one.

Chef
12-22-2008, 10:37 AM
at least we would be relevant.

Muttley
12-22-2008, 10:55 AM
But with the trash that he was talking about us a while back, I'd feel justified to make him come here for a season and a half. Though him not wanting to be here would surely make the team worse.

DanielWheeler
12-22-2008, 11:12 AM
Amare? since when?

I could have been mistaken by someones post by one of the fans here over Freak, but I think if it was a local source that Bonnell would've said something by now.

krazyrumpshaker
12-22-2008, 12:14 PM
So when is it that this miracle information is supposed to be revealed to us? Was it 12:00 central? or 1:00 eastern for those of us here in NC.

ballwhore
12-22-2008, 12:35 PM
Hello to all ladies, gentleman, and transgender....Remeber I had stipulations...Also im delaying it until betwenn 12:30 & 12:45 cst because i have shit to do....That give you more time to meet my stips

amour217
12-22-2008, 12:37 PM
Must've gotten detention for skipping glee club practice

JGib23
12-22-2008, 12:41 PM
12 cst which is 1 EST.

I don't care as much about the half of the trade as I do about when it will go down.

Ballwhore- until you are wrong I have to belive that you know something.

My only question is why would the team not take a moment to evaluate what they have in the post with Diaw and Okafor Playing alongside one another before making a trade?

The team has looked more cohesive as a unit since Diaw arrived than at any time in the franchises' history IMO.

I think a line up of

PG- Augustin, Felton
SG- Bell, Felton, Carroll
SF- Wallace,Diaw, Morrison
PF- Diaw, Howard, Lexi
C- Emeka, Hollins, Diaw

Could contend for the 8th spot in the Eastern Conference and if we miss the playoffs we will have a lottery pick to add to that equation to fill the SG spot.

If they make a trade I hope it's big.

Any capologist out there? When can we trade Mek? Like in Feb because of BYC or something like that?

docend24
12-22-2008, 12:45 PM
I could have been mistaken by someones post by one of the fans here over Freak, but I think if it was a local source that Bonnell would've said something by now.Crazy, crazy thought. Bobcats boards are his usual source often.

krazyrumpshaker
12-22-2008, 12:48 PM
Hello to all ladies, gentleman, and transgender....Remeber I had stipulations...Also im delaying it until betwenn 12:30 & 12:45 cst because i have shit to do....That give you more time to meet my stips


This guy is full of it. First of all, if you think that 70 people are going to log on and hail you as supreme chancelor or whatever you want, then you are foolish my friend. 2nd, you are delaying it because you have things to do? if you were too busy to type a response giving us info, then how did you have time to do this one. If you have something, then great, why not share it. Do you really have to make yourself seem so important in other peoples eyes? Do you get your rocks off by having all of us repeatedly asking you for info? You obviously did not get very much attention as a child.

I am not going to feed into your ego any longer. I will not post another thing on this thread and suggest no one else does either.

eleaf14
12-22-2008, 12:48 PM
The Bobcats can get full value for the newly signed deal for O. That went into effect on 12-15.

Anxious to hear the rumblings...ballwhore is holding fools hostage!

ammofan
12-22-2008, 12:55 PM
just release the news already man

JGib23
12-22-2008, 12:55 PM
Well he won't get 70. I don't think there has ever even been 70 people on this board at the same time (maybe Draft night).

I don't care if he wants his ego stroked. Hell this thread has been more fun than most of the games this season. I just hope we can remake this team into a contender.

Ballwhore- you said 2 players will be traded this week, so I guess we won't get to Dump Nazr or Matt C's contract in the trade since they weren't drafted in the top 13? If so, then that sucks.

Chef
12-22-2008, 12:57 PM
i do have to give ballwhore credit, this is making work more fun.

Weezy21
12-22-2008, 12:59 PM
do yall think he honestly wanted 70 ppl or that he was merely trying to gives us a hint about the # 70?? im sure he knows 70 ppl wont get on here....an for all those getting mad at him makes yall look stupid...its a message board man chill out...lets just wait an c wat the dude has got to say.....until then imma keep refreshing this page haha

ammofan
12-22-2008, 12:59 PM
i do have to give ballwhore credit, this is making work more fun.

lololololololol

jstar5
12-22-2008, 12:59 PM
Here's the thing, I think he has info, I (and everyone else) want to know this "insider" info he has. Krazy's right though, there is no way in hell 70 people will sing Freak's praises so the "stipulations" will not be met.

Either Freak21/ballwhore/testicle prostitute will give us the info at 1:30 (which btw I think he should open a 3rd account under testicle prostitute to break the news, it would show he has at least one good natured bone in his body) or if this "insider" info really is true then we will all find out soon enough because the trade has to be somewhat imminent, nobody plans a trade to definitely happen right before the trade deadline.

amour217
12-22-2008, 01:01 PM
well 70 might be the number of times someone on here was with his mom this week

ammofan
12-22-2008, 01:01 PM
theres too much analys on this....

all i want is:

Bobcats Trade-
------
and
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Bobcats Receive-
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and
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bing!
12-22-2008, 01:04 PM
Tension is palpable and weezy21 is looking awfully suspicious. :g:

amour217
12-22-2008, 01:06 PM
Tension is palpable and weezy21 is looking awfully suspicious. :g:

Indeed...let me try to communicate with him:

yo G, lawl lawl LOLCano wha chu up2 inda peezy i thin u no sumthing bowt tradezsz lolrus

Weezy21
12-22-2008, 01:06 PM
Tension is palpable and weezy21 is looking awfully suspicious. :g:

haha im not gunna lie....i just wanna see a trade

ammofan
12-22-2008, 01:07 PM
Indeed...let me try to communicate with him:

yo G, lawl lawl LOLCano wha chu up2 inda peezy i thin u no sumthing bowt tradezsz lolrus

hahahahhaha

Wanderlai
12-22-2008, 01:18 PM
Checking in to see the big news.

dmorgan346
12-22-2008, 01:29 PM
almost time, then it will be moved back again

ammofan
12-22-2008, 01:32 PM
1:30

wheres ballwhore?

Brad
12-22-2008, 01:44 PM
I can't imagine anyone giving up something of enormous value for Okafor and Felton. I can't imagine the Bobcats trading Okafor and Felton unless they get something of enormously more value.

Seems like an impasse to me.

Proudiddy
12-22-2008, 01:44 PM
smh.......

ballwhore
12-22-2008, 01:45 PM
First off...Amour217 you f#cking p#ssy your a bad azz over e-mail...I wish iI could touch your b#tch azz..What are you a fifth grader throwing shots at someones mother..You f#cking cunt...The only reason I graced this page was because surfing I found a lot of intellectual sarcasism but you my friend are a b#tch in every since of the word and if I ever by chance got to meet you I'll b#tch slap you with my with my specialty diamond encrusted b#tch slapping glove I keep in my right azz pocket for cunts like you...Anyway, ya'll didnt meet my stipulations and because of b#tch azz Amour217 5th grade humor im no longer in the mood to give even half of the story so i'll give 1/4....Raymon Felton and Omeka are going to Golden State we in turn will be getting Anthony Randolph and.....Hear the rest from the news..

TattoodCats4life
12-22-2008, 01:47 PM
I think he's having fun seeing us all sweat... I know for me, its like this, trade whoever <Save ppl Larry has picked personally> just tell me :)

Btw, I've been lurking for a long time, finally made an ID. Tattoo'd Cats for Life... My name is Chris and I have taken my love for this team to crazy, I have the front facing logo tattoo'd on my right arm. I did this last year, so I'm quite happy to see they picked that as their logo. GW loves it too, as he says "Woah man thats cool...cool" in his special voice ;)

Looking forward to posting more

Chris

JGib23
12-22-2008, 01:52 PM
The only reason I graced this page was because surfing I found a lot of intellectual sarcasism but you my friend are a b#tch in every since of the word and if I ever by chance got to meet you I'll b#tch slap you with my with my specialty diamond encrusted b#tch slapping glove I keep in my right azz pocket for cunts like you...

That's great humor


Anyway, ya'll didn't meet my stipulations

From Tom Cruise' line in Tropic Thunder "We don't negotiate with Terriorist"

dnbman
12-22-2008, 01:53 PM
Welcome Chris.

If this is real at all, I'm going to guess it's Randolph and Monta Ellis, along with whatever is needed to get the job done.

The Warriors were high on Monta before he got hurt. But, I think Monta's attempt to cover up the accident made him persona non gratta.

Brad
12-22-2008, 01:53 PM
you picked the right logo to tattoo. The original one looks like a housecat about to yak up its fancy feast.

If indeed it's Felton and Okafor for Randolph +, what does that work out to salary wise?

amour217
12-22-2008, 01:55 PM
First off...Amour217 you f#cking p#ssy your a bad azz over e-mail...I wish iI could touch your b#tch azz..What are you a fifth grader throwing shots at someones mother..You f#cking cunt...The only reason I graced this page was because surfing I found a lot of intellectual sarcasism but you my friend are a b#tch in every since of the word and if I ever by chance got to meet you I'll b#tch slap you with my with my specialty diamond encrusted b#tch slapping glove I keep in my right azz pocket for cunts like you...Anyway, ya'll didnt meet my stipulations and because of b#tch azz Amour217 5th grade humor im no longer in the mood to give even half of the story so i'll give 1/4....Raymon Felton and Omeka are going to Golden State we in turn will be getting Anthony Randolph and.....Hear the rest from the news..

Dude, you've been watching too much Monday Night Raw, you sound like a Bells Palsy sufferer trying to read the liner notes out loud to a 50 Cent CD. Call me what you will, but you don't see me on here so starving for attention that I literally ask people to proclaim me this or that. By that way, congratulations on using such a large word like "stipulations"...and spelling it right, no less. I wish I could say the same for words like "sarcasm"...and I'm not even going near punctuation, since it's obvious you have no grasp of what that means.

So you're pissed because I ruined your little narcissism party...I don't feel so bad about it, and I'm willing to be folks here are getting tired of your game too. This board is too good for the likes of immature children like you, I'm sorry to say. So you can sit there behind your computer and threaten me all you want, and I could easily play your game and meet up with you, and stomp you so bad Popeye Jones will say you're hideous. But I'm above that, little boy. Lots of us joke around here, we even joke around with each other, you just need to get over it. If you can't, don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya.

TattoodCats4life
12-22-2008, 02:00 PM
I don't think it works with Ellis in the trade, because he is also BYC and it puts you in situations where you need to remove salary from both sides of the trade. I got something to go thru a minute ago, but don't remember it perfectly, was like

Okafor, Felton, Brown and May for Turiaf, Bellineli, Randolph and maybe it was Azubukie...

Hey we can dream right ?

Chris

Shrimpy_Jackson
12-22-2008, 02:03 PM
Guys! Let's all stop fighting. Armour is my man with Futurama on his mind, and Ballwhore is a man with charisma and cockiness. I'm just a man with his Shrimp, so I think I'm best capable of handling this situation. Let us all look beyond that which is Ballwhore and see what's right with America. Some may say we're Rome in decline, Ballwhore is Nostradamus in his fancy hostel in Sweden who has insider's information. Armour represents those monsters that eat kittens every time you masturbate. You guys are one and the same! Two chums and amigos who wear pants every day and you also have hair. So let's stop arguing and hug each other and then let the glorious rise of the nation of Boneria come into existence. I want each and every one of you to read this three times and realize that it's completely nonsensical, only then will you see the true meaning of love.

I'm shrimpy ms. Jackson OOOO is this for real?

spectre
12-22-2008, 02:03 PM
Raymon Felton and Omeka are going to Golden State we in turn will be getting Anthony Randolph and.....Hear the rest from the news..

That one's tough to buy. Why would GSW want Mek when they have a better (arguably) and cheaper version in Biedrens?

I can get Felton/Mek for Randolph/Wright/Jackson to work but in no way shape or form can I imagine Larry Brown wanting SJax...not to mention this would make Nazr our best big ( :hypo: ). It also makes no sense for GSW to pair Mek & Biedrens together (he's BYC...so a swap of the two is pretty much impossible).

If anything like this happened you'd have to think it would be with an eye to making yet more moves.

ammofan
12-22-2008, 02:03 PM
makes me nervous.....i dont know if i wanna give up EO50 and Felts only to get average players in return

ammofan
12-22-2008, 02:05 PM
I think it would be a multi team deal.....he did say that wat he released wa sonly 1/4 of the deal. maybe we get another big man in return

ChipsAHOY
12-22-2008, 02:05 PM
I don't think it works with Ellis in the trade, because he is also BYC and it puts you in situations where you need to remove salary from both sides of the trade. I got something to go thru a minute ago, but don't remember it perfectly, was like

Okafor, Felton, Brown and May for Turiaf, Bellineli, Randolph and maybe it was Azubukie...

Hey we can dream right ?

Chris

I think ONLY felton and oak are leaving. If this trade is only with the warriors, then it will be a horrible trade. Who will we have as our center?? Anthony Randolph is a PF and Diaw is already the starting PF. It looks like there could be another team involved or even 2 more teams involved.
If we get rid of oak, then who will be our starting C? Hollins?
He even said this is 1/4 of the trade.
It looks the start of the Augustin era.

amour217
12-22-2008, 02:06 PM
Guys! Let's all stop fighting. Armour is my man with Futurama on his mind, and Ballwhore is a man with charisma and cockiness. I'm just a man with his Shrimp, so I think I'm best capable of handling this situation. Let us all look beyond that which is Ballwhore and see what's right with America. Some may say we're Rome in decline, Ballwhore is Nostradamus in his fancy hostel in Sweden who has insider's information. Armour represents those monsters that eat kittens every time you masturbate. You guys are one and the same! Two chums and amigos who wear pants every day and you also have hair. So let's stop arguing and hug each other and then let the glorious rise of the nation of Boneria come into existence. I want each and every one of you to read this three times and realize that it's completely nonsensical, only then will you see the true meaning of love.

I'm shrimpy ms. Jackson OOOO is this for real?

Shake it like a polaroid picture

dnbman
12-22-2008, 02:13 PM
Yeah, I wasn't sure if their BYC status would some how cancel each other out. I guess not!

Well, this should be a fun train to ride!

JGib23
12-22-2008, 02:23 PM
Without a 3rd team involved I can't make anything work that makes sense.

dnbman
12-22-2008, 02:28 PM
Without a 3rd team involved I can't make anything work that makes sense.

What about Dalembert in Phili? What would Phili need from GS to make that work?

eleaf14
12-22-2008, 02:28 PM
ballwhore...do you have any suggestions as far as when this is going to be announced. thanks for the tip.

Proudiddy
12-22-2008, 02:33 PM
Without a 3rd team involved I can't make anything work that makes sense.

We are the Bobcats... lol

ChipsAHOY
12-22-2008, 02:36 PM
What about Dalembert in Phili? What would Phili need from GS to make that work?

Anthony Randolph and Dalembert also can not work. We would be recieving 1 mil too much.

Proudiddy
12-22-2008, 02:40 PM
I can't make it work anyway with Ellis involved.

Keetch
12-22-2008, 02:41 PM
I think the BYC clause expired on 12/15. It appears that ESPN's trade machine hasn't caught on yet.

Any chance GS would trade out Biedrins?

dnbman
12-22-2008, 02:43 PM
I can't make it work anyway with Ellis involved.

I almost had a trade worked out with Phili, but couldn't quite make it work.

I kind of hate doing this stuff. Too speculative.

If I had to guess that another team was involved, I'd probably just say that there's a link between this deal and the proposed Brad Miller/Wallace swap.

Keetch
12-22-2008, 02:45 PM
Good grief Dnbman....too speculative yes. Patience.

Eat a donut.

TattoodCats4life
12-22-2008, 02:47 PM
Does anyone know anything else about this that is reputable. Its something that there were no trade rumors about us and PHX, then boom... I'm kinda expecting something where there is no rumors at all.

Also, can someone let me know if my avatar pic is showing up...sorry to do that in the forum but I don't see it and I'm not sure if it's just me or its not up.

dnbman
12-22-2008, 02:50 PM
Good grief Dnbman....too speculative yes. Patience.

Eat a donut.

If you only knew how ill I've been for the last two days. Suffice to say, the only thing I've eaten is about a cup of Cheerios.

Anyhow,

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=556~2751~3455~3039~3242~2992~2 753~2399~1026&teams=30~30~30~23~23~23~9~9~23&te=&cash=

JGib23
12-22-2008, 02:58 PM
Ok, Let's assume that Ballwhore is who we think he is ( oing my best Dennis Green)

What he has said basically so far is that

Emeka and Raymond are gone and we are rec'ing Anthony Randolph.

So I did some playing around and came up with this.

Raymond to the Warriors and in return we get Anthony Randolph and Brandon Wright (or a few other scenarios with us rec'ing GS Warriors who don't make alot of money.... Watson, Nelson, Bellineli, Morrow, Williams, Etc)

&

I read where Larry Brown was really high on Spencer Hawes so
Emeka & Shannon Brown for Spencer Hawes and Miki Moore, and a 1st round pick.

In the end, We trade
Emeka Okafor
Raymond Felton
Shannon Brown

---for---

Anthony Randolph
Brandon Wright
Spencer Hawes
Mikki Moore
Kings 1st rounder

That leaves us razor thin at the point so I'm sure that we would be bringing in a back up point guard in one of these scenario's.

But, we get really young with a load of upside and plenty of Cap room in the summer of 2010

Weezy21
12-22-2008, 03:00 PM
Anyhow,

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=556~2751~3455~3039~3242~2992~2 753~2399~1026&teams=30~30~30~23~23~23~9~9~23&te=&cash=

that would be crazy....but didnt coach brown already say brad miller wasnt his type of player??

dnbman
12-22-2008, 03:01 PM
that would be crazy....but didnt coach brown already say brad miller wasnt his type of player??

I don't remember him saying that. Bonnell has been reporting a Wallace for Miller type trade being possible. That's the only reason I suggested it.

heelsfan525
12-22-2008, 03:05 PM
I read that the Warriors are trying to get rid of Stephen Jackson... I hope that this trade is a 3-team trade because I dont see us upgrading any.

Weezy21
12-22-2008, 03:06 PM
I don't remember him saying that. Bonnell has been reporting a Wallace for Miller type trade being possible. That's the only reason I suggested it.

The trade chatter surrounding Brad Miller continues, as well it should. He's atop the list of most likely Kings next to go, and league sources continue to indicate that the Kings are officially engaged and somewhat motivated on the trade front. The latest Miller report to pop up comes from ESPN's Marc Stein, who says Charlotte is offering former King Gerald Wallace in return for Miller. While Wallace is available for the right player in return, I'm told from a source close to the Bobcats that Miller does not fit that bill if it's up to Larry Brown.

http://m.si.com/news/sp/tr_nba_sports/detail/1335547;jsessionid=49BE20A67B1F29E1C39C5CA13874CF8 E.cnnsilive9i

Mustachio
12-22-2008, 03:09 PM
not one single trade on this entire 18 page thread sounds good to me at all.


Front Office... If you're listening, just chill for a couple days please. lets see what we got now. Hell, we've waited 5 years to contend, no need to rush into it now and do something stupid.

Chef
12-22-2008, 03:14 PM
how about this one.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3440~1966~959~2751~497~3455~32 77~2753~568~2399&teams=9~30~30~5~5~30~30~9~9~9&te=&cash=

kickazzz2000
12-22-2008, 03:16 PM
how about this one.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3440~1966~959~2751~497~3455~32 77~2753~568~2399&teams=9~30~30~5~5~30~30~9~9~9&te=&cash=

Nah..not ready to give up on Felton yet.

Chef
12-22-2008, 03:20 PM
or nazr for that matter

dnbman
12-22-2008, 03:22 PM
Nah..not ready to give up on Felton yet.

Yeah, plus taking on CJ Watson's contract...

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
12-22-2008, 03:24 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/19/SPRU14RDHQ.DTL - randolph


http://bayarea.comcastsportsnet.com/sports-blogs/featured/marcus-williams-days-as-warrior-appear-to-be-numbered/ - marcus williams / demarcus nelson

i could see demarcus coming to charlotte, he tried out for the bobcats

WAM9
12-22-2008, 03:44 PM
I just got back from a family Chrismas gathering in Charlotte and haven't been on for about 48 hours. I was amazed to see 44 people online when I checked back for the first time a little while ago and figured something big happened.

Well, I read all the posts in this thread and I'll give you guys my 2 cents worth of analysis...

First off, Freak or Whore or BAN or whoever: He has been successful in completely getting everyone all worked up. The way he represents himself, whether he has inside info or not, is in a very, very immature fashion. I can't believe he is older than a teenager (and an immature one at that). That begs the next question...How did he know about the J-Rich trade? Well, I don't have an answer. Maybe his dad is with the franchise or with the NBA front office or something like that. Who knows and who really cares.

We all care about the Bobcats here. We will find out soon enough if he actually knows what he is talking about. BUT, even if he has inside info, I refuse to kiss his ass to find out about it. Especially after that rude ass rant to one of our own. Allright, that's enough about the rude dumbass. Time will tell if he is right but ironically, time is also the only thing which might mature the young dude (hopefully).

As far as the trade goes, if we trade Emeka AND Felton, we better be getting an all-star type player back. Jefferson from Minnesota is a maybe. Monta Ellis as the primary guy wouldn't make me happy at all. As much as I personally like Brad Miller, I would rather have Emeka anyday of the week. This thread makes me more nervous than anything...

...maybe that was 3 or 4 cents worth:)

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
12-22-2008, 03:46 PM
if this is true, i think we get demarcus nelson and randolph and a third person...marcus williams gets sent to another team...the third person we get comes from the team that marcus williams gets sent to

monta ellis may also be involved..GSW must be unhappy with his injury and not reporting it, i think he could get shipped out too

jstar5
12-22-2008, 03:57 PM
If that's how it plays out, let's pray that Ellis is getting shipped to the 3rd team also. Otherwise, if all the 3rd team is getting is Marcus Williams then we won't be getting anything we're happy with in return from them.

jstar5
12-22-2008, 04:06 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3455~3242~2753~2399~2389&teams=30~30~9~16~30&te=&cash= (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3455%7E3242%7E2753%7E2399%7E23 89&teams=30%7E30%7E9%7E16%7E30&te=&cash=)

Obviously, this isn't exactly how it would go down, but it could be a decent blueprint

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2389~3838~3455~3039~2753~2399&teams=30~30~30~16~9~16&te=&cash=

This seems more likely, still might need to be tweaked though

spectre
12-22-2008, 04:23 PM
:hysterical: @ giving up Nazr and taking on CJ's contract!

For those getting into somewhat of a tither...don't let it get to you so much. Take it for what it's worth.

Keetch...BYC lasts a year.

It had better be with more than just Golden State...BAN said I was going to like this trade. If it's something like jsar5 trade then that would pass the test...I'd love that trade!

But no way is our front office that smart or that good.

ballwhore
12-22-2008, 04:30 PM
Sure im the immature one...But your own or whatever you want to refer to the slap dick as got off a blast about my mother...My mother could have recently passed or may be gravely ill at this moment and beside that where i'm from we don't play that sh#t...Whats evident is half of you don't know how to ease up and have fun regardless of what happens you'll still be where you are at this moment doing the same old thing you been doing....While i'll be driven around from place to place in back of my fine European ride getting news on major moves in the NBA sitting in on conference calls and talking sh#t on my new team sponsored MacBook Pro...Next time you'll respect me....History should tell you to do so..Just watch it play out again...Like I SAID SO..Oh! Forgot didn't give up the whole story oh well keep running scenarios through your head. I know whats happening..Im off this site....SEE YA!

kickazzz2000
12-22-2008, 04:31 PM
Sure im the immature one...But your own or whatever you want to refer to the slap dick as got off a blast about my mother...My mother could have recently passed or may be gravely ill at this moment and beside that where i'm from we don't play that sh#t...Whats evident is half of you don't know how to ease up and have fun regardless of what happens you'll still be where you are at this moment doing the same old thing you been doing....While i'll be driven around from place to place in back of my fine European ride getting news on major moves in the NBA sitting in on conference calls and talking sh#t on my new team sponsored MacBook Pro...Next time you'll respect me....History should tell you to do so..Just watch it play out again...Like I SAID SO..Oh! Forgot didn't give up the whole story oh well keep running scenarios through your head. I know whats happening..Im off this site....SEE YA!


just like i thought. lil bitch can dish it out but caint take it

Mustachio
12-22-2008, 04:37 PM
Locked. If the rumor turns out to be true then I'll reopen the thread... but as of now its run its course. Nothing good can come from it.

Move along now, nothing to see here.

ziggy
12-22-2008, 06:30 PM
Just for the record... I STILL call Bullshit :biggrin:

BobCatsFanInTx
12-23-2008, 01:21 AM
Warriors want Bobcats' Felton
Source: Charlotte has talked to Golden State about dealing guard for Randolph or Wright.
By Rick Bonnell
rbonnell@charlotteobserver.com
Posted: Thursday, Dec. 18, 2008

Warriors want Felton.

Could Raymond Felton end up a Golden State Warrior, in a trade that might acquire Anthony Randolph or Brandan Wright?

The Warriors and Bobcats have had discussions about Felton, an NBA source told the Observer, and the Warriors appear open to giving up either Randolph or Wright to make a deal work.

Bobcats general manager Rod Higgins would neither confirm, nor deny, talks with the Warriors involving Felton. Higgins came to the Bobcats two years ago from a similar role with the Warriors.

There's considerable incentive for both teams to consider such a trade:

The Bobcats face the possibility of losing Felton without compensation after this season, when he becomes a restricted free agent. They chose not to sign him to a contract extension last summer, after drafting another point guard, D.J. Augustin, with the ninth overall pick.

Augustin has blossomed of late, scoring 29 points and totaling seven assists in an overtime victory Tuesday against the Chicago Bulls. Augustin outplayed Bulls point guard Derrick Rose, the No.1 overall pick.

That could leave the Bobcats with a dilemma in July, should another NBA team offer Felton a lucrative offer sheet.

At that point, the Bobcats would either match that contract and possibly overpay a player who could end up a reserve or potentially lose a player chosen fifth overall in 2005, without compensation.

Meanwhile, the Warriors have an abundance of forwards and a need for Felton's toughness and playmaking. The Warriors lost Baron Davis to the Los Angeles Clippers in free agency, and are still searching for help at the point.

Felton might not be a pure point guard, but he would free up Monta Ellis (once Ellis recovers from an offseason scooter accident), to be a scorer at shooting guard.

Randolph, a multi-skilled but spindly forward out of Louisiana State, auditioned well enough that he was at least in the discussion when the Bobcats made the ninth selection.

Wright was the player the Bobcats chose on the Warriors' behalf, after working out a deal to acquire shooting guard Jason Richardson on draft day 2007

Felton makes enough this season ($4.15million) that the Bobcats could acquire Randolph and Wright, and the salaries would match within NBA rules.

But since Randolph and Wright are similar, it would make sense for the Bobcats to take one, plus something else that would offer them salary-cap relief.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/bobcats/story/421713.html


This may be some kind of knowledge that Ballwhore or whatever he wants to go by already knew but since finding this I discovered that Bonnell wrote it around the time that our board insider wrote it to us. So Ballwhore, no offense need be taken from this but this story was out and you may not have had such inside info after all. If you can't give details beyond what can be given here I highly doubt your as big a fish on here as you would like to be. If you know things beyond this article please spill the beans or you look mighty suspect.

PS. No matter what, all of us on BCP should refrain from childish name calling and just ignore any more so called inside info from the all mighty ballwhore. ; )

teej
12-23-2008, 01:27 AM
I thought it was testicle prostitute?

But yea, freak/whore/tp is not a big fish yet, he still needs to prove it and is unwilling, whcih means either he doesn't know and is waiting for someone else or his ego is keeping him from being the first to leak the info

im going with the former for now

Alex
12-23-2008, 04:03 AM
Come on guys, leave that guy alone. If something happens, it happens. Who cares if we find out in advance or not? Eventually we'll find out either way.

Lewey
12-23-2008, 09:40 AM
If something happens, it happens. Who cares if we find out in advance or not? Eventually we'll find out either way.

I agree. Let it be.

ballwhore
12-23-2008, 10:55 AM
No offense to you..But you sent over a paragraph filled with more speculation then what comes off of the post on this site. Bonnel is giving you what he think might happen. I see no mention of Okafor at all in the article. So take it how you want to take it but I don't see Bonnel on here posting or repping this site anywhere but I do....So stop blowing on his meat whistle until he gives you some facts and not pure speculation....I am who I said I was....Bonnel broke the last trade almost 24hours after I posted it on his own website forum and this is the guy you follow..:g:Go to Charlotte Observer and check the forum post..C-Ya

Weezy21
12-23-2008, 11:35 AM
i dont understand y everybody is doubting ballwhore...he was dead on last time WAY b4 anybody else so y not again?? and to b honest, i wouldnt b the least bit surprised if he is right again

krazyrumpshaker
12-23-2008, 11:40 AM
i dont understand y everybody is doubting ballwhore...he was dead on last time WAY b4 anybody else so y not again?? and to b honest, i wouldnt b the least bit surprised if he is right again


This guy did break the richardson trade before it came out anywhere else, but i believe it was on the same day. Whatever his source, i could see knowing about it the day of or day before the trade went down. But this is already working on several days since he claimed to know about the trade and who was involved. Trades seem to change back and forth with new pieces being added and subtracted to make it work all the time. So how does he know for sure, without a doubt who exactly is going to be traded for whom? And if it is a sure bet, then why are they waiting and holding off? I dont necessarily doubt his source, but is it possible that it was close to a done deal and then fell through?

Chef
12-23-2008, 11:41 AM
agreed. until he proves full of it, I believe him. he has an excellent track record although small sample size.

Slam
12-23-2008, 12:14 PM
i dont understand y everybody is doubting ballwhore...he was dead on last time WAY b4 anybody else so y not again?? and to b honest, i wouldnt b the least bit surprised if he is right again
It was posted on RGM long before it was posted here.

spectre
12-23-2008, 12:50 PM
I dunno...the first comment I saw was on the Suns' board at 4:58 PM, but even that didn't break down the trade:


Gonna be tough playing tonight without 4 of our guys.

The poster was asked "what?", and then he replied at 5:21 PM with:


Bell, Diaw, Singletary...gone.

Richardson, Dudley...coming from the Bobcats.

At least Tucker will be activated.

The Freak started his thread at 5:08 PM. Granted he did edit his initial post at 5:40 PM and I wasn't on the board then (got back late from the in laws).

At any rate it was close. He could have pulled that off the Suns' board (or some other board), but he certainly got it to the Bobcats' fans first. SDU (Suns' fan) didn't start the trade thread on Charlotte's site until 6:22 PM.

I feel like Sherlock Holmes here. :biggrin:

Don't know why this is such a big deal at any rate. In the end all you have to remember is one small thing:

In Larry Brown I Trust.

Slam
12-23-2008, 01:42 PM
rsavajw was 1st to post it on the Bobcats RGM board (in the Crash thread for some reason?)

bellringer21
12-23-2008, 01:56 PM
Anyway we can get Crawford in the deal too? He can start at the 2 and Bell can come off the bench.....how about Okafor, Felton for Crawford, Randolph, and Marcus Williams? I'm sure the salaries in that deal will match up....

krazyrumpshaker
12-23-2008, 01:56 PM
Someone at RealGM forum is doing the same thing as here.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=864721&sid=05520007b4f5a236512e2cdd3f25377d

Says he has a source that works for bobcats.

I wonder if this is the same person and if he is legit or just spreading his rumours around to everyone he can.

kickazzz2000
12-23-2008, 02:07 PM
There has to be something to this, even if the OP on that thread is just quoting BAN from this board.

Didn't Mike Thompson basically allude to some "shifting" coming soon?

dnbman
12-23-2008, 02:26 PM
There has to be something to this, even if the OP on that thread is just quoting BAN from this board.

Didn't Mike Thompson basically allude to some "shifting" coming soon?

That's the frustrating part about this whole thing: EVERYONE has alluded to something shifting soon.

It's got to be wearing on the players a bit knowing that they may not be playing for this team any day now. I hope we get this sorted soon.

Muttley
12-23-2008, 02:40 PM
That's the frustrating part about this whole thing: EVERYONE has alluded to something shifting soon.

It's got to be wearing on the players a bit knowing that they may not be playing for this team any day now. I hope we get this sorted soon.
Exactly, and LB implied something else was on the way immediately following the Phoenix trade.
It's a business, sure, but how distracted do you really want your players?

spectre
12-23-2008, 02:42 PM
rsavajw was 1st to post it on the Bobcats RGM board (in the Crash thread for some reason?)

Ah, you're right...but that's still at 5:29 PM.

Unless...what's your time set on Slam? On RealGM my time has been set at EST (UTC - 5)...but is that right? Someone just posted on the forum and it's showing as 3:30. Should it be set at CST? That gives me a time of 2:38?

Over here it's set at EST and is depicting the correct time.

If my timing is wrong than it did break on RGM first.

spectre
12-23-2008, 02:44 PM
Anyway we can get Crawford in the deal too? He can start at the 2 and Bell can come off the bench.....how about Okafor, Felton for Crawford, Randolph, and Marcus Williams? I'm sure the salaries in that deal will match up....

Crawford (like Boris & Bell) can be traded but they have to be traded by themselves.

x2pacalypse
12-23-2008, 03:13 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2751~3455~2789~3242~3431~1982~ 3461~2753~2399&teams=12~30~12~12~9~30~30~9~9&te=&cash=12:30

it doesn't work but im thinking of something along the lines of that

ps...damn this board blew up the 2 days i was gone

ballwhore
12-23-2008, 03:34 PM
Like I said before I never even heard of Real Gm until it was posted on my thread. But I viewed the real gm thread and it's obvious that someone from here is trying to post first to know info from here..Catch me here and Charlotte Observer posting ...Thatttt Thhhatt Thhhattts all folks..The Newly Infamous Ballwhore Almighty Newsbreaker..."I'd rather be hated on then loved, hell at least I know what to expect"...Whoever is posting on Real Gm is using me as their reliable soure...L.M.A.O. SOmebody believe in old Ballwhore...All they know is it's two high first rounders sounds straight from my clues....

TattoodCats4life
12-23-2008, 04:01 PM
Like I said before I never even heard of Real Gm until it was posted on my thread. But I viewed the real gm thread and it's obvious that someone from here is trying to post first to know info from here..Catch me here and Charlotte Observer posting ...Thatttt Thhhatt Thhhattts all folks..The Newly Infamous Ballwhore Almighty Newsbreaker..."I'd rather be hated on then loved, hell at least I know what to expect"...Whoever is posting on Real Gm is using me as their reliable soure...L.M.A.O. SOmebody believe in old Ballwhore...All they know is it's two high first rounders sounds straight from my clues....


I'm not all about this game that's being played, but I do love to know trade stuff before it happens, so I'd implore you to give us maybe another snack size bite of whats going down, so we know for sure that you are definitely THE man for trade stuff if/when this happens. As much as I'd love for you to give a trade machine link showing what you were told, I know better, but something beyond what we know already would be nice.

kickazzz2000
12-23-2008, 04:05 PM
Like I said before I never even heard of Real Gm until it was posted on my thread. But I viewed the real gm thread and it's obvious that someone from here is trying to post first to know info from here..Catch me here and Charlotte Observer posting ...Thatttt Thhhatt Thhhattts all folks..The Newly Infamous Ballwhore Almighty Newsbreaker..."I'd rather be hated on then loved, hell at least I know what to expect"...Whoever is posting on Real Gm is using me as their reliable soure...L.M.A.O. SOmebody believe in old Ballwhore...All they know is it's two high first rounders sounds straight from my clues....

Yeah, somebody over there called him out for that too...

ziggy
12-23-2008, 05:20 PM
I think tempers have cooled down. We'll open this thread back up.

neogenic
12-23-2008, 05:44 PM
Hasn't the talk of this specific trade been "looming" for over a week now? At what point are we simply writing the "warriors-bobcats" trade off?

Either it would happen or it wouldn't. Players that might be traded if close to the deal, wouldn't play, due to injury potential. Nothing seems imminent right now specifically. I do think a trade will happen, but this rumor is getting so old it has to be dead with us talking about it so much for so long.

ziggy
12-23-2008, 05:50 PM
I would say that if it hasn't happened by end of the day Friday, then my prediction of bullshit will be true.

BobCatsFanInTx
12-23-2008, 05:59 PM
Ballwhore,Freak21 or whatever you want to be called I mean no disrespect as I am sure none of us do, it's just that we are all die hard fans of the Bobcats and this kind of teasing is so cruel. If you can't tell us the whole trade and want to keep us in suspense you can at least give us an idea if this trade is still a go. If so we sure would love to know what is holding this thing up? If we are going to get the better of a trade could you at least give a hint to how many teams are involved and when the trade might happen? You said this week but does that mean by this weekend or before?

PS. Let's avoid our attempts at humor being personal in nature. Ballwhore and or Freak21 might be a pretty nice guy. He just want's to have a little fun with us and I admit the suspense seems to be driving many of us up the wall. If this source is accurate we know that a trade of significance is coming. It would be nice to have a bit more info or some added clues but if not we will just be excited and anxious waiting. As far as how we perceive this trade, one mans trash is another mans treasure. We may all be debating the trade as to it's benefit to the Bobcats. Maybe we will all like the trade but one never can tell. I hope we all agree it is a good trade.

Proudiddy
12-23-2008, 06:09 PM
I'm tired of waiting and trying to figure out what's going on. It's not worth the time to try to figure out who and what are involved. And I don't understand what would be holding the trade up. Obviously the other team must not be satisfied with what we are offering because the trade isn't complete. It kind of pisses me off that we have made ourselves look this desperate and still nothing has went through.

spectre
12-23-2008, 06:18 PM
I think tempers have cooled down. We'll open this thread back up.

Yeah, right! You wanted to get back into this thread as much as everyone else did! :p

kickazzz2000
12-23-2008, 06:54 PM
I'm tired of waiting and trying to figure out what's going on. It's not worth the time to try to figure out who and what are involved. And I don't understand what would be holding the trade up. Obviously the other team must not be satisfied with what we are offering because the trade isn't complete. It kind of pisses me off that we have made ourselves look this desperate and still nothing has went through.

Or vice-versa.

Proudiddy
12-23-2008, 06:59 PM
Or vice-versa.

yeah, I thought of that... But i think that it is more likely that the other team is holding it up because they want more. The reason? Because as I mentioned, it's obvious we are desperate to make a move and we're already offering our best players besides DJ. So, I assume after seeing us trade away J-Rich and dangling GDub, Felton, and Okafor that the other team wants to see how much they can gouge us for. I don't see us holding a trade up because we continuously dangle all of our players out there (except for us reportedly asking any take to take Nazr as well).

coordinator0
12-23-2008, 07:04 PM
There's a guy on RGM that said he has a source that works in the organization, and confirmed that we are putting out a trade that includes Felton as the center piece. He also said the other team, who is currently unknown to the poster on RGM, tried to get D.J. I think it would take a mega deal to acquire him from us, and I highly doubt we would trade our 2 PG's. He also made a reference to ballwhore and how he's just annoying everybody with keping the info. I am interested to see who posts the infromation first if something does go down...

BobCatsFanInTx
12-23-2008, 07:33 PM
Hey I doubt this is the trade scenario but I can't seem to work out Okafor in a trade direct with GS. Felton is good for some big time potential yet potential won't win games for us now. BAN said the trade was for some big time contributors but that would leave my trade out of it. None of the guys in my trade have contributed much of anything YET!

http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/

ballwhore
12-23-2008, 07:43 PM
The guy posting on Real GM is taking info from here he doesn't know shit...If its not done by end of the week ill eat crow and individually e-mail everybody on this thread with my deepest apology..Its in the works...Soon as I get the go ahead to post its finalized..Thats exactly what ill do...

DirtyU11
12-23-2008, 07:54 PM
Soon as I get the go ahead to post its finalized..Thats exactly what ill do...

i think thats the key to why ballwhore isnt telling us specifics about this trade. it seems that everytime we here about a good trade almost about to be done it falls through, so i think everyone would agree that if not knowing the specifics of the trade makes it work then we can all wait a few extra days to get some players that will, in the words of ballwhore "greatly contribute"

ohara831
12-23-2008, 08:18 PM
I have not given any input on this entire issue. I always believe in giving someone the benefit of the doubt until they lose it. So far, from what I've read, I'd say he has not lost that right, so I still give Ballwhore the benefit of the doubt. I just wish the language was a little less corrosive all the way around. Freedom of speech is a great thing, but trying to act and speak with respect towards each other can only make this Board an even better place. It's already great, but we can be even more civil to one another.

edit: But the way he is playing now, I dont want to give up Okafor unless the deal is a steal!

krazyrumpshaker
12-23-2008, 09:28 PM
edit: But the way he is playing now, I dont want to give up Okafor unless the deal is a steal!

I feel the same way. Dont know how many players are going to be able to replace the 29 points, 18 rebounds and 3 blocked shots he had tonight.

jstar5
12-23-2008, 09:28 PM
Does anyone think there is any possibility to the trade I posted? And would we as Bobcats fans be happy if it went down? I don't feel like Minny would want to give up Jefferson, but if Love progresses like he's supposed to then a defensive force like Oak would compliment him well.

The rough parameters were:

Bobcats get: A. Randolph, Al Jefferson, Demarcus Nelson

Warriors get: Felts

T-wolves get: Oak and M. Williams
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krazyrumpshaker
12-23-2008, 09:30 PM
Does anyone think there is any possibility to the trade I posted? And would we as Bobcats fans be happy if it went down? I don't feel like Minny would want to give up Jefferson, but if Love progresses like he's supposed to then a defensive force like Oak would compliment him well.

The rough parameters were:

Bobcats get: A. Randolph, Al Jefferson, Demarcus Nelson

Warriors get: Felts

T-wolves get: Oak and M. Williams
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I like it better than some of the others i have seen. But not sold on getting rid of Oak. Felton, i dont really have a problem with losing. But if we are going to trade Oak, Jefferson would be a good replacement i think.

Wanderlai
12-23-2008, 09:45 PM
Ballwhore, I for one, thank you in advance for any info you post on here.

ohara831
12-23-2008, 10:01 PM
Does anyone think there is any possibility to the trade I posted? And would we as Bobcats fans be happy if it went down? I don't feel like Minny would want to give up Jefferson, but if Love progresses like he's supposed to then a defensive force like Oak would compliment him well.

The rough parameters were:

Bobcats get: A. Randolph, Al Jefferson, Demarcus Nelson

Warriors get: Felts

T-wolves get: Oak and M. Williams
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That is certainly a much better trade than many I have seen thrown around. Would not be disappointed at all with those 3 incoming.

coordinator0
12-23-2008, 10:05 PM
Does anyone think there is any possibility to the trade I posted? And would we as Bobcats fans be happy if it went down? I don't feel like Minny would want to give up Jefferson, but if Love progresses like he's supposed to then a defensive force like Oak would compliment him well.

The rough parameters were:

Bobcats get: A. Randolph, Al Jefferson, Demarcus Nelson

Warriors get: Felts

T-wolves get: Oak and M. Williams
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I for one would love that trade for Charlotte, although I don't think GS would bite. They'd be giving up Randolph, Nelson, and Williams (although probably not a big deal) for Felton. Maybe if there were picks involved it would be possible. I like this trade for the bobcats because I absolutely love Jefferson, and he may be better suited to playing the 5 like he did in BOS. We'd be losing a little bit of defense but Jefferson is no slouch at that end of the floor, and I really like Randolph's potential.

JamieMcNeill
12-23-2008, 10:17 PM
i dont understand i thought we are looking to get a 2. why is nobody talking about that anymore?

jstar5
12-23-2008, 10:19 PM
Someone posted earlier that we worked out Demarcus prior to the draft and I think he's the type of player that would really flourish under LB's tutelage. He could be a good player for us in spot minutes and be a nice defensive presence. And all this is coming from a Tarheel fan!

TheBeagle
12-24-2008, 12:21 AM
i dont understand i thought we are looking to get a 2. why is nobody talking about that anymore? 'Cause Raja Bell is the goods!!!

As usual, if Larry's signing off on any trade, I'm down with it all the way....as long as it's not Lexy, Boris, Raja or DJ. I'd miss Gerald like all hell, but I don't think it would screw up too bad the foundation Larry's building up here. As for Mek, it's hard to believe he would be involved in any trades the way Larry was talking postgame, thanking God for him, but we'll see.

dnbman
12-24-2008, 08:14 AM
Does anyone think there is any possibility to the trade I posted? And would we as Bobcats fans be happy if it went down? I don't feel like Minny would want to give up Jefferson, but if Love progresses like he's supposed to then a defensive force like Oak would compliment him well.

The rough parameters were:

Bobcats get: A. Randolph, Al Jefferson, Demarcus Nelson

Warriors get: Felts

T-wolves get: Oak and M. Williams
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I don't think there's anyway that the T-Wolves trade Jefferson. He's now their franchise player for the foreseeable future. If he was on a good team, he'd be a no-brainer all-star.

So, no, I don't see them making that trade. They'd have to see Love be an absolute beast to trade Jefferson. I just don't see any remote chance of that happening.

BobCatsFanInTx
12-24-2008, 10:06 AM
Hey I doubt this is the trade scenario but I can't seem to work out Okafor in a trade direct with GS. Felton is good for some big time potential yet potential won't win games for us now. BAN said the trade was for some big time contributors but that would leave my trade out of it. None of the guys in my trade have contributed much of anything YET!

http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/When I checked this it didn't work so I will try again. Trade ID #4887162 http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/

BobCatsFanInTx
12-24-2008, 10:17 AM
BAN I know you don't want to give out to much information but could you per chance tell us how many teams are involved in this trade? The way Emeka is playing as of late do you think the Bobcats might have second thoughts about trading him?

ALong13
12-24-2008, 10:44 AM
Stephen Jackson told his teammates that he would happily accept being traded from the Warriors, according to ESPN.com's Ric Bucher.

Jax wasn't pleased with coach Don Nelson after being told that he was playing poorly -- he was playing with a sore hand at the time, but decided to shut it down after that conversation. Corey Maggette's agent is also said to be exploring trade options. The likelihood of a trade is unknown, but the wheels are clearly falling off in Golden State. Dec. 24 - 9:03 am et

-Rotoworld



Maybe Maggette or Jackson coming to the Queen City...Really don't want to trade Okafor though...Rather trade Wallace than Okafor...Okafor is playing so well with Diaw right now...

DJ, Maggette, Bell, Diaw, Okafor ??

spectre
12-24-2008, 10:48 AM
I really don't think either SJax or Maggette are the type of players LB would want.

My inside source is telling me that it's a 16 team mega deal where we end up with LBJ and Flash...together finally in the Queen City!

Of course my dog has been wrong before...so don't get your hopes up too high.

TattoodCats4life
12-24-2008, 10:57 AM
I know that it's business as usual for a handful of (lucky) NBA teams who get to play tomorrow, and today is, I think, the only black day on the NBA calendar, does anyone think there is any possibility of a trade going through and being announced before next week?

Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Happy Kwanza, whatever you celebrate enjoy it with your family, loved ones, and of course our family here at BCP.

Until further notice cherish what we've got :wink: Except May of course here's my xmas present to him... :fhb: Nice big sammich.

Muttley
12-24-2008, 10:57 AM
Brilliant, Spectre!

I can't imagine us talking about needing bigger guys for the past half a year, and then pull a major trade for Stephen Jackson and Corey Maggette.

No sir.

ALong13
12-24-2008, 12:32 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2427~497~2789~3242~2211~2753~5 68~2399&teams=30~30~30~30~9~9~9~9&te=&cash=

How about this trade


We'd get a line-up of

DJ, Maggette, Wallace, Diaw, Biedrins

GS would have

Felton, Crawford, Jackson, Brandon Wright & Okafor


Trade two long contracts (Okafor & Carroll) for 2 longs (Maggette & Biedrins)
Trade 3 years ( Nazr) for another ( Turiaf)
and then Felton for Wright

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dnbman
12-24-2008, 01:00 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2427~497~2789~3242~2211~2753~5 68~2399&teams=30~30~30~30~9~9~9~9&te=&cash=

How about this trade


We'd get a line-up of

DJ, Maggette, Wallace, Diaw, Biedrins

GS would have

Felton, Crawford, Jackson, Brandon Wright & Okafor


Trade two long contracts (Okafor & Carroll) for 2 longs (Maggette & Biedrins)
Trade 3 years ( Nazr) for another ( Turiaf)
and then Felton for Wright

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That's a pretty good trade for us. I just don't see it happening. Plus, we're locked into Maggette for a long time. Ultimately, we'd have to hope that Wright blossoms into a strong enough PF that the above lineup makes us a champion. I'm not sure it does.

BobCatsFanInTx
12-24-2008, 01:04 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2427~497~2789~3242~2211~2753~5 68~2399&teams=30~30~30~30~9~9~9~9&te=&cash=

How about this trade


We'd get a line-up of

DJ, Maggette, Wallace, Diaw, Biedrins

GS would have

Felton, Crawford, Jackson, Brandon Wright & Okafor


Trade two long contracts (Okafor & Carroll) for 2 longs (Maggette & Biedrins)
Trade 3 years ( Nazr) for another ( Turiaf)
and then Felton for Wright

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This trade works out financially but I don't know if GS would go for it. It would be fair but I am not sure GS wants to lose Biedrins. There are a few players mentioned that GS would like to part with but Biedrins has not been mentioned as such.

ALuhrs704
12-24-2008, 02:52 PM
If we trade okafor im going to go to games and through fruits at MJ and LB. He is playing too good. He shut down al jefferson when we played them, and beasted him offensively. Emeka is coming into is own now, and i dont think we should trade him unless its for some who is an all star. PERIOD.

ALong13
12-24-2008, 04:29 PM
If we trade okafor im going to go to games and through fruits at MJ and LB. He is playing too good. He shut down al jefferson when we played them, and beasted him offensively. Emeka is coming into is own now, and i dont think we should trade him unless its for some who is an all star. PERIOD.

I'll bring the rotten tomatoes...I'll be deeply upset if we trade Okafor...I'd rather trade Wallace more than Okafor, but I think the line-up we have is good enough to win, our bench is not tho...

Alex
12-24-2008, 05:01 PM
I agree with you guys. If we trade Emeka and Felton like ballwhore says then we definitely should be getting an all-star in return otherwise the deal is a failure.

bing!
12-24-2008, 05:12 PM
I have no qualms with Emeka being traded. He's a great player who can immediately (and significantly) contribute to any team in this league and is also possessed of a great character, yet it's his 5th (losing) season with the Cats, team's stagnation simply goes to say that he isn't working out, 15/11 guy or not, it's not working.

We need new faces, if only to try. Change heralds better times to come.

coordinator0
12-24-2008, 05:29 PM
I have no qualms with Emeka being traded. He's a great player who can immediately (and significantly) contribute to any team in this league and is also possessed of a great character, yet it's his 5th (losing) season with the Cats, team's stagnation simply goes to say that he isn't working out, 15/11 guy or not, it's not working.

We need new faces, if only to try. Change heralds better times to come.

That's only true if the change is for the better. Vincent brought the Bobcats change, but I'm pretty sure we all know what kind of change it was.

P.S. I feel really dumb for asking this, but where did the Fine Ham Biscuit thing come from? I live in Michigan so i don't know if it's a Charlotte thing but the first time I've heard of it is on here. Don't be too harsh lol.

dnbman
12-24-2008, 06:31 PM
P.S. I feel really dumb for asking this, but where did the Fine Ham Biscuit thing come from?

The legendary Amour217:
http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6786

about three or four posts down. Wheel of Fortune