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Hormel
12-24-2008, 12:21 PM
http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/56165/20081224/execs_expect_curry_to_be_traded_to_bobcats/

I have really liked Diaw since he's been here, oh well :(

ALong13
12-24-2008, 12:40 PM
Well we'd get David Lee so that would help...but I dont really like that...Diaw has done really well in Charlotte and I'd really rather keep him..Plus Curry has been injuried all year and no clue how he ends up...plus another overweight player...great

BobCatsFanInTx
12-24-2008, 12:56 PM
I wish we could get some good games out of May and Morrison so that we could trade them. Then they can revert to their usual standards of play.

dnbman
12-24-2008, 12:57 PM
That rumor's been out since the Phoenix trade.

I have to believe that if we acquire Curry it's to facilitate something much better happening, like them taking Nazr and us getting a pick or something.

Scottley Crue
12-24-2008, 12:58 PM
Well, that's what other execs think. How many of them thought that JRich would be traded for Bell and Diaw? Just because they think it might happen doesn't mean it will.

ziggy
12-24-2008, 01:04 PM
NO NO NO NO NO!!!

I refuse to believe that Larry Brown sees something potentially productive out of that 400 pounds of goo.

Alex
12-24-2008, 01:04 PM
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!

I don't want that fat imbecile anywhere near our team.

Alex
12-24-2008, 01:05 PM
haha me and ziggy with the exact same initial reaction at the exact same time, lol

countryboi
12-24-2008, 01:07 PM
I read the same thing on hoophype...and it sounded more like guessing than anything...i think thats some poor reporting from realgm
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/12/23/2008-12-23_al_harrington_is_planning_an_inside_job.html


EDDY SIGHTING: Eddy Curry (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Eddy+Curry) has become visible of late, sitting among his teammates before games and talking casually with reporters. Curry, who is hoping to make his season debut within the next two weeks, knows that once he begins playing - and plays well - his time with the Knicks could be brief.
The Knicks have made no secret that trading Curry would enhance their prospects of signing two major free agents in the summer of 2010. Charlotte (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Charlotte) has expressed interest in Curry, and people close to the Knicks center say that he would welcome a change of address.
"I don't know what's going to happen," Curry said. When asked about the Bobcats (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Charlotte+Bobcats), Curry only said, "I enjoyed playing for Larry (Brown) when he was here."
Two weeks ago, Charlotte acquired Boris Diaw (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Boris+Diaw) and Raja Bell (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Raja+Bell) from Phoenix (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Phoenix+Suns), and the thinking among some NBA (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/National+Basketball+Association) executives is that both players will eventually be shipped to New York in a deal for Curry and possibly David Lee (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/David+Lee). ...

TattoodCats4life
12-24-2008, 01:42 PM
LB and MJ must be enjoying some interesting illicit substances to even consider such a deal... I mean, why would we (in a round about way) trade J Rich for Curry?

spectre
12-24-2008, 01:47 PM
Damn, thanks for the heart attack. When I saw the title I thought we'd actually traded for that big fat POS, then after a post or so later I thought we'd traded Boris for that fat POS!

It's the NY Daily News. No one other than a schill for the Knicks would even think this is a fair trade.

coordinator0
12-24-2008, 02:00 PM
When will these reporters ever learn? We CANNOT trade Diaw AND Bell together or with any other player, only by themselves. This is getting pretty annoying, the New York media doesn't appear to be very smart to me...

ammofan
12-24-2008, 02:25 PM
good god.....this is stupid

ALuhrs704
12-24-2008, 02:44 PM
I saw this on on inside hoops too. I would HATE for this to happen. Okafor is opening up big time, becoming a huge scoring threat. as well as diaw putting up good numbers of his own. And bell is starting to do alot better, i feel like he is just playing rather than pressuring. I would hate this trade, cuz lee is like a poor version of emeka, and eddy curry is like a more talent but bigger version of sean may and i do not need someone taking up another 2 seats on the bench (sean may and currry are to fat to sit next to each other). I like the team we got, i think we got a chance. Were only what 3.5-4.5 out of the playoffs? Lets try to get into some kind of groove!

Muttley
12-24-2008, 03:27 PM
I think AmmoFan summed this up nicely.

WarioVsMooChicken
12-24-2008, 04:01 PM
Please, ANYTHING BUT THIS

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
12-24-2008, 04:59 PM
doesn't make sense...unless NY is the third team in the geal with GSW that is purportedly about to happen

if we get curry and david lee, then we must also be getting the players from GSW and basically have a whole new different team

either way...i dont get it, Diaw makes a tremendous difference in the team, his presence is evident from the way we move around the ball.. when he is out, there absolutely no inside game at all.. think yesterdays game when in the 2Q Diaw was at the bench for most of it...we were settling for jump shots

neogenic
12-25-2008, 02:33 PM
Real GM?????????????? What kind of source is that? Did you run this by Ballwhore? Clearly he is the only credible source. RealGM, ESPN, c'mon guys...let's get real. Let's stop reporting trade rumors unless they come from ballwhore. Just stop it.

dav7z
12-25-2008, 04:52 PM
Curry for Diaw works straight up on the trade checker with out bell. 1st trade
Lee and Gallinari for Bell works all so 2nd trade,
New York gets Diaw and Bell and cllears cap space,
We take on Currys contract but get a first round pick with upside, And get the p/f Brown has been wanting. Lee .
Lee and Gallinari would be two nice rebuilding pieces.

Ampsportsduo
12-25-2008, 05:03 PM
If this happens...

http://catfish.ctwelve.us/bobcatstooges.jpg

dav7z
12-25-2008, 05:32 PM
If this happens...

http://catfish.ctwelve.us/bobcatstooges.jpg








agreeded was just bored and trying to make it work . Like you i hope we stay far far away.

Wallace15
12-25-2008, 10:53 PM
With the way Oak is playing along side Diaw, LB and MJ would be incredibly stupid to make that trade.

DanielWheeler
12-25-2008, 11:14 PM
This Trade works

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~2776~3016~990~2772&teams=18~18~18~30~30&te=&cash= (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753%7E2776%7E3016%7E990%7E277 2&teams=18%7E18%7E18%7E30%7E30&te=&cash=)

May and Felton's contracts come off at the end of the year and Morrison's is off a year after that.

I think The Knicks would do this deal considering we're taking their crap and giving them our crap that expires soon (May) while adding pieces that can stay around for approximately 2 seasons and if they don't like them, then they can ship them off.

docend24
12-27-2008, 07:14 AM
This Trade works

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~2776~3016~990~2772&teams=18~18~18~30~30&te=&cash= (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753%7E2776%7E3016%7E990%7E277 2&teams=18%7E18%7E18%7E30%7E30&te=&cash=)

May and Felton's contracts come off at the end of the year and Morrison's is off a year after that.

I think The Knicks would do this deal considering we're taking their crap and giving them our crap that expires soon (May) while adding pieces that can stay around for approximately 2 seasons and if they don't like them, then they can ship them off.
Our roster would be:

Augustin - Singletary
Bell - Carroll, Brown
Wallace
Diaw - Lee, Howard, Ajinca
Okafor - Hollins, Mohammed, Curry

Really unbalanced. I would pass and not only for that reason. Lee is an expiring and Curry is currently only a higher version of Sean May.

DanielWheeler
12-27-2008, 08:50 AM
Most of us thought Diaw was a bad pickup and look what happened... I know Curry had his best years under LB so I think it is worth a shot over May.

Lee is a PF/SF so he could backup Wallace.

coordinator0
12-27-2008, 08:58 AM
Most of us thought Diaw was a bad pickup and look what happened... I know Curry had his best years under LB so I think it is worth a shot over May.

Lee is a PF/SF so he could backup Wallace.

Didn't he only play under Brown for a quarter/half of a season when he was in New York? I heard that he didn't even play much when LB was the coach... People need to stop looking at the 7'0 tall thing and realize that Curry doesn't use his height as an advantage much, we'd be an even worse rebounding team with him on the floor.

spectre
12-27-2008, 09:35 AM
Did we...or did we just think we gave up too much?

It's not a matter of "giving Curry a shot over May"...Curry is on the books for over 30 million bucks and 3 years! If anyone thinks May has been a waste multiply that times 3.

Who are you willing to give up Dan? Crash? Diaw? Please explain how Curry and a 1/2 season rental of Lee will provide more of an impact with our team over those 2 guys?

TattoodCats4life
12-27-2008, 09:37 AM
I think I take back what I said about "trade felton at all costs" seeing that trade. DJ is fantastic but Sean Singletary is not ready to play more than 5 min per game in the NBA. We'd need to get a veteran point guard who is paid on the low end of the scale and can come off the bench for 15-20 min per game.

I think if we just made DJ start, Felton off bench, then the last quarter play DJ (who has more than proven himself in clutch situations, where as Felton always puts us in a bad position in the 4th qtr).

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~2776~3016~990~2772~2782&teams=18~18~18~30~30~30&te=&cash=

This is a bit better, gives NY a lot of cap relief in the coming years, and we're not getting stuck with Curry too long, Lee we can resign if he proves worth while and Nate is an inexpensive guard for now, and he can back up DJ and probably teach him a thing or two (hahah). Not that I think NY would give up Nate...but this is a win win for both teams.

DanielWheeler
12-27-2008, 11:13 AM
Did we...or did we just think we gave up too much?

It's not a matter of "giving Curry a shot over May"...Curry is on the books for over 30 million bucks and 3 years! If anyone thinks May has been a waste multiply that times 3.

Who are you willing to give up Dan? Crash? Diaw? Please explain how Curry and a 1/2 season rental of Lee will provide more of an impact with our team over those 2 guys?

I don't believe Crash or Diaw was in the deal. Lee wouldn't be a rental. I should've included a PG considering the log jam after the deal. Motivated Curry >>>>>> May and Nazr. I don't get how this isn't good if Curry comes in motivated which is likely. Felton for Bigs is fine to me.

DanielWheeler
12-27-2008, 11:27 AM
I think I take back what I said about "trade felton at all costs" seeing that trade. DJ is fantastic but Sean Singletary is not ready to play more than 5 min per game in the NBA. We'd need to get a veteran point guard who is paid on the low end of the scale and can come off the bench for 15-20 min per game.

I think if we just made DJ start, Felton off bench, then the last quarter play DJ (who has more than proven himself in clutch situations, where as Felton always puts us in a bad position in the 4th qtr).

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~2776~3016~990~2772~2782&teams=18~18~18~30~30~30&te=&cash=

This is a bit better, gives NY a lot of cap relief in the coming years, and we're not getting stuck with Curry too long, Lee we can resign if he proves worth while and Nate is an inexpensive guard for now, and he can back up DJ and probably teach him a thing or two (hahah). Not that I think NY would give up Nate...but this is a win win for both teams.

This is how I would rework the deal. Instant depth upgrades at C and PF while taking a hit at PG to get help in other areas that are needed.

spectre
12-27-2008, 11:36 AM
I don't believe Crash or Diaw was in the deal. Lee wouldn't be a rental. I should've included a PG considering the log jam after the deal. Motivated Curry >>>>>> May and Nazr. I don't get how this isn't good if Curry comes in motivated which is likely. Felton for Bigs is fine to me.


The rumor has always been either Crash or Diaw...the latest has us swapping Diaw/Bell for Curry/Lee.

Lee said if he was traded to Memphis he would NOT re-sign with them...why would we be any different?

When in the hell has Curry ever been motivated?

DanielWheeler
12-27-2008, 11:41 AM
The rumor has always been either Crash or Diaw...the latest has us swapping Diaw/Bell for Curry/Lee.

Lee said if he was traded to Memphis he would NOT re-sign with them...why would we be any different?

When in the hell has Curry ever been motivated?

That would suck if it was those two.

Memphis doesn't have LB.

Curry has always had talent and work/faith can lead him to his potential.

spectre
12-27-2008, 11:46 AM
Curry's been in the league for 8 years...yet we should still trade for him hoping that he'll suddenly be motivated?

I think Lee wants to play on the big stage, so IMO LB won't make that big of a difference. Regardless, are we willing to sign him to a 10 per contract to basically play the exact same way Mek does except for less defense? They couldn't work together as they both play within 5 ft of the rim...so we want another extremely overpaid bench player?

docend24
12-27-2008, 12:10 PM
I wouldn't see realistic scenario where we would end up with better frontcourt than Wallace-Diaw-Okafor. I don't think we should deconstruct this at all. And we shouldn't trade for expirings unless we are trading Caroll or and Mohammed away.

And I don't see how we could trade for Nate Robinson. He is an angry midget who could disrupút our team chemistry and surely is not Larry's type of player. And he would not be content with DJ starting over him.

TattoodCats4life
12-27-2008, 02:11 PM
All good points. I'm honestly 100% happy with the front court starters, I'd like to develop Ajinca into a 4/3 (he's not a 5 at all), get Ryan some time and he'll blossom, I think he's expiring, so hopefully we do something like 3milx4yr with a team option on the 5th. I think our weakest place right now is the guards. Matt can't back up anyone, and I'm still waiting on the fire to light up under Bell. On the 1 we'd be way better with DJ starting and an experienced 6th-8th year PG backing him up, and Singletary as a third choice (DJ and SS working together was fun to watch last night). I'm not too much into college ball, but I'm strongly thinking we should pick up curry if it's at all possible, as that would solve some problems.

amaidendevil
12-29-2008, 12:59 AM
the bobcats i think made the trade for bell and diaw quickly so they could re trade them. if you trade for players and 60 days go by and still before deadline you can retrade them so you send bell and diaw to knicks for curry and david lee two big guys and the two together average 20-30 pts and lee rebounds and di antona gets his guys in ny, your starting line up okafor=center, curry=pf, lee=forward, wallace=sg, felton=pg

amaidendevil
12-29-2008, 01:03 AM
only problem is wallace is really a shooting gaurd with spotty shooting and sometimes leadership he has to be mad or fired up to take over game down stretch

amaidendevil
12-29-2008, 01:15 AM
and by the way the bobcats sterting five average 63 pts if they pull off the trade the starting five average pts would jump to 72, + 9 pt diff that would make alot of diff in games but this is just numbers tell me what yall think?????

ALuhrs704
12-29-2008, 02:00 AM
You guys gotta think that Lee's #'s are inflated due to the system up in NY. and he is not a 3. Curry would play center, and who knows what this guys is doing. He was a bust in Chicago, did okay for a year in NY. And now he is out of shape and hurt. While Diaw opens up the floor (look at what mek's done since the trade) and bell is starting to get into his own groove, and is a lockdown defender. I will really really hate ownership now if theey do this move, and i dont think they will. But who knows........

spectre
12-29-2008, 07:25 AM
the bobcats i think made the trade for bell and diaw quickly so they could re trade them. if you trade for players and 60 days go by and still before deadline you can retrade them so you send bell and diaw to knicks for curry and david lee two big guys and the two together average 20-30 pts and lee rebounds and di antona gets his guys in ny, your starting line up okafor=center, curry=pf, lee=forward, wallace=sg, felton=pg

We could have traded Felton for Lee at the beginning of the season and the Knicks would probably pay us to take on the flat slob's contract. Yet we would give up TWO starters now?

Only in a New Yorker's wet dream.

BTW...we have a trade thread.

BRNC
12-29-2008, 11:51 AM
I for one find it hard to believe that LB would trade for a guy (Curry) that he ended up not starting in NY...I'd like to think if any of this is true that it would involve a third team (taking Curry) but my guesses on trades (lately) about our team have not been good of late...

Ghost Kat
12-29-2008, 04:20 PM
I can't see the benefit is trading for players, then once the players start getting used to the team and the team actually looks better and plays better... then you trade those players for sorry under acheivers


Makes no sense

BRNC
12-30-2008, 08:02 AM
I still chalk it up to "wishful thinking" on the part of the NY media...it would make no sense for LB to go for a trade that includes a player he was reluctant to play at another coaching gig...I'm not saying we will not trade these guys to NY because I don't know...but it would only make sense if another team would be involved that wants Curry...and I have no idea who wants Curry...I'd rather not have him here...