View Full Version : Charlotte Bobcats at New Jersey Nets 12/26
ziggy
12-26-2008, 06:32 AM
After a couple of days off, we have finally have some action back on the court.
There are some good stories all over the court in this game.
Raymond Felton -vs- Devin "Thanks Mark Cuban" Harris.
Ray is going to have his hands full. I don't think that any player has elevated his game more over the course of the last season than Harris. Take a look at these numbers: 24ppg, 6.8 apg, 1.5 spg on 46.7% from the field. The kid has been fierce.
Raja "The Kobe Strangler" Bell -vs- Vinsanity
Harris has stolen a lot of the spotlight on the Nets, but Vince is still doing his thing to a tune of 23.0 ppg, 5.1rpg and 4.5 apg. Raja's rep is that he's a lockdown man on man defender. This should be a fun matchup to watch.
Boris Diaw -vs- Yi
With the way that Boris has been playing since he's joined the Cats, this is going to be no contest. Yi should prepare to be abused.
Okafor -vs- Lopez
In the month of December, Emeka has averaged 18ppg, 11.5rpg, 1.9 bpg on 61.8% shooting. Welcome to the NBA Brook.
So what do you guys think will happen in tonight's game? will we make it 4 out of 5 wins?
TheLegend
12-26-2008, 08:36 AM
I'm don't know about this game. The way Devin Harris is playing he's like an MVP or something. I hope we win though.
G-Force for MVP
12-26-2008, 01:21 PM
should be a good game got to contain harris though
spectre
12-26-2008, 02:17 PM
I watched some of the Nets-Mavericks game and Devin Harris was just plain scary; we could be in for Crawford V2. Hope not, but we better be prepared for that and be able to do it in other ways.
Crash, Mek & Diaw should all have the advantage in their matchups...and I'd love for Mek to welcome Lopez into the NBA properly. Contain the other guys, hit our shots and we'll win.
ammofan
12-26-2008, 02:20 PM
hopefully this will be a win and Boris plays well again.
ohara831
12-26-2008, 02:49 PM
Well this is a home and home series. I sort of expect the Nets to win tonight and the Cats to win tomorrow. Dont see a sweep for either side.
If this game was at home I'd pick us but I have no confidence in this team on the road so I don't know.
BTW if a link pops up please post it since this game isn't televised.
WarioVsMooChicken
12-26-2008, 06:23 PM
Yea, post a link. I'm in Edmonton right now and I'd love to have something to do
davcbow
12-26-2008, 06:34 PM
Yea, post a link. I'm in Edmonton right now and I'd love to have something to do
So far this is all I can find... a audio link javascript:smallpop('listen-nba-audio.php?w=nets')
davcbow
12-26-2008, 06:47 PM
Here is a video link, still dont know if any of them will work or not but here it is....http://albaaa.altervista.org/watch.php?id=201
Scottley Crue
12-26-2008, 07:14 PM
Not that it changes anything now, but maybe Michael Thompson can answer this...why do we have road games that aren't televised? I understand home games not being televised, but not road games.
Most likely to prevent the TV crew from having to travel on Christmas night.
spectre
12-26-2008, 07:22 PM
http://albaaa.altervista.org/watch.php?id=200#
If Dav's don't work try that one. I think the guy who runs that site just posted this in the P2P forum in a separate post...meaning it's a good chance (hopefully) that it'll work.
Scottley Crue
12-26-2008, 07:23 PM
Most likely to prevent the TV crew from having to travel on Christmas night.
Makes sense enough to me. Obviously, I didn't even think of that.
http://albaaa.altervista.org/watch.php?id=200#
If Dav's don't work try that one. I think the guy who runs that site just posted this in the P2P forum in a separate post...meaning it's a good chance (hopefully) that it'll work.
Awesome, it works!
GO 'CATS!
WarioVsMooChicken
12-26-2008, 07:48 PM
Good start for us
bing!
12-26-2008, 07:51 PM
Former Arizona link is kickin'.
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 07:56 PM
Marv Albert and Mike Fratello are calling the game tonight.
I guess they are NJ's commentators.
ziggy
12-26-2008, 07:59 PM
http://albaaa.altervista.org/watch.php?id=200#
If Dav's don't work try that one. I think the guy who runs that site just posted this in the P2P forum in a separate post...meaning it's a good chance (hopefully) that it'll work.
Spectre, Thanks for the link!
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 08:00 PM
Mike Fratello says he doesn't want to take anything away from our ten wins but only three of them are against teams over 500. Sounds like he needs to reassure himself of how sucky we are. Maybe a little fear we will upset his Nets.
bing!
12-26-2008, 08:04 PM
Former Arizona link is kickin'... #2
WarioVsMooChicken
12-26-2008, 08:10 PM
I loved how the announcers started dissing Mek and then he had a monster dunk.
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 08:13 PM
If this team looks like sh*t tonight I am ready for a trade. I am getting impatient. The great Larry Brown needs to start paying dividends.
bing!
12-26-2008, 08:15 PM
Carroll playin' SF, Nazr's in the game, a question mark.
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 08:16 PM
Bring on the spanking tonight. I am watching via League Pass and the cats are slow and clumsy. 8-0 run and the cats are down by 7.
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 08:17 PM
Thank goodness starting to play better while the Nets are turning clumsy. Down by 2.
Bobcat4Ever
12-26-2008, 08:18 PM
Great hustle by Carroll and a 3 by Raja
Timeout Nets...30-28 New Jersey
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 08:18 PM
Carroll playin' SF, Nazr's in the game, a question mark.Every now and then Nazr looks good. Let's hope he performs well tonight.
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 08:25 PM
Fratello says to look how a trade can change the complection of a team. Wallace moved to SF, not his best spot. If you ask me Diaw is the one good thing that happened to us with the trade.
playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
12-26-2008, 08:25 PM
if anyone else watching the feed from YES network??
did the announcer just say that GW was moved to small forward after the diaw trade...and that SF is not his best position?? how ridiculous is that, this guy does not know anything
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 08:26 PM
The Bobcats would be lethal if they had some bench depth.
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 08:30 PM
Fratello is a good one sided announcer and obvious homer. Oh well that is basically what he is paid for.
ziggy
12-26-2008, 08:30 PM
Mike Fratello is determined to make PF Gerald's best position the PF. If he had dug a little deeper he would realize that playing Crash at the 4 most likely would cause him to get injured sooner rather than later.
Damned NJ announcers :banghead:
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 08:33 PM
Man, am I glad we have DJ.
bing!
12-26-2008, 08:35 PM
Harris is held to measly 5 points, lovely D.
Ampsportsduo
12-26-2008, 08:35 PM
Sean Singletary in the game?
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 08:37 PM
The Bobcats are in the right scoring pace to win this game.
playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
12-26-2008, 08:37 PM
i'm amazed at how fast singletary is...he's gotta be faster than RF or DJ..if he could only run like that with the ball!
bing!
12-26-2008, 08:38 PM
Cats up by 9 at the half, woot.
ohara831
12-26-2008, 08:38 PM
Very solid 1st half. Very impressive all the way around from my point of view. Keep it up Cats!
Scottley Crue
12-26-2008, 08:39 PM
if anyone else watching the feed from YES network??
did the announcer just say that GW was moved to small forward after the diaw trade...and that SF is not his best position?? how ridiculous is that, this guy does not know anything
He also said the thing about the Bobcats only having three wins over teams with better than .500 records. Well, here's a news flash for him...if the Bobcats win tonight, they'll still only have three wins over above .500 teams. Might want to check their own record before going there, that's all.
davcbow
12-26-2008, 08:40 PM
Up by 9 at the half... not bad... everyone playing good so far....:cool:
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 08:50 PM
Man, poor NJ, they are being beat by a team who is the worst in the league offensively and the Bobcats may score at least 100. You can just hear the disrespect Mike Fratello has for our Bobcats.
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 08:52 PM
He also said the thing about the Bobcats only having three wins over teams with better than .500 records. Well, here's a news flash for him...if the Bobcats win tonight, they'll still only have three wins over above .500 teams. Might want to check their own record before going there, that's all. I agree Scottley.
ammofan
12-26-2008, 08:55 PM
Go Bobcats!
BobCatsFanInTx
12-26-2008, 09:01 PM
Well, things are looking good as of now but I am heading to Karaoke tonight. I hope I am wrong about this but I just have a feeling the Bobcats are going to pull a choke job. Please let me come home and find out I am wrong.
My biggest fear is that the Bobcats have no bench help and that will be what comes back to haunt them.
BobcatsAllDay
12-26-2008, 09:03 PM
DAMN! That was great ball movement w/ Felton getting the 3 at the end
playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
12-26-2008, 09:04 PM
DAMN! That was great ball movement w/ Felton getting the 3 at the end
agreed, that was awesome...thats the LB effect..
playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
12-26-2008, 09:06 PM
He also said the thing about the Bobcats only having three wins over teams with better than .500 records. Well, here's a news flash for him...if the Bobcats win tonight, they'll still only have three wins over above .500 teams. Might want to check their own record before going there, that's all.
the announcer is ridiculous...earlier they also said we are the WORST team in the NBA, simply because we have scored the fewest amount of pts per game.
what about the W-L record? or how many pts we're scorign after the Diaw trade? it's obvious these guys are a bunch of jokes, a little more research would help
We need to build a bigger lead if we're going to hold on and win this b/c you know that in the 4th the Nets will just give the ball to VC and Harris and let them take over and we have no stars to be able to keep up with that.
playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
12-26-2008, 09:10 PM
i'm actually believe that Mek is improving his moves with his back against the basket..he still shoots a lot of bricks, but the commentators mentioned ealier that LB was working on this with Mek..again, i couldn't be more glad we got rid of fine ham,
playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
12-26-2008, 09:11 PM
We need to build a bigger lead if we're going to hold on and win this b/c you know that in the 4th the Nets will just give the ball to VC and Harris and let them take over and we have no stars to be able to keep up with that.
definitely...we'll need to step up our defense, this is when Raja needs to step it up
BobcatsAllDay
12-26-2008, 09:16 PM
If we can finish this 3rd w/ a good run I will feel very good going into the 4th
BobcatsAllDay
12-26-2008, 09:21 PM
ATTACK THE RIM IN THE 4TH....Please Bobcats
only up 8 with a quarter to go on the road? this spells doom for us but we'll see.
Scottley Crue
12-26-2008, 09:23 PM
the announcer is ridiculous...earlier they also said we are the WORST team in the NBA, simply because we have scored the fewest amount of pts per game.
what about the W-L record? or how many pts we're scorign after the Diaw trade? it's obvious these guys are a bunch of jokes, a little more research would help
I think Marv's fine, but Mike is just homerific beyond belief. I'd like to think our announcers don't sound like that to other teams' fans. I mean really...Tommy Heinson thinks Mike's a little bit biased.
davcbow
12-26-2008, 09:23 PM
we need to play every play and not let up on them. Felts needs to stop trying so many 3's... Leave them for Raja to shoot...:cool:
davcbow
12-26-2008, 09:31 PM
Defense defense defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:
We're starting to settle for jumpers...
BobcatsAllDay
12-26-2008, 09:35 PM
We're starting to settle for jumpers...
I know keep driving to the hole and good things will happen
Bobcat4Ever
12-26-2008, 09:36 PM
Harris is having a horrible night
We HAVE to win this game
Scottley Crue
12-26-2008, 09:38 PM
I know keep driving to the hole and good things will happen
That's always good basketball advice, no matter the situation.
They look like they're trying to do that now, so hopefully they can hold on to this lead and take the W home.
BobcatsAllDay
12-26-2008, 09:41 PM
Way too many 3 sec calls tonight and I don't know who to blame
Harris starting to take over.
Bobcat4Ever
12-26-2008, 09:42 PM
That was a charge
yeah, we're losing this because we don't have a go-to player.
Bobcat4Ever
12-26-2008, 09:44 PM
And this is where Harris will takeover and the Bobcats won't have an answer
That was a charge
not a charge if you're flaling your arms in the air like diaw was on that play.
We're one go-to player away from being a playoff team fellas.
Bobcat4Ever
12-26-2008, 09:45 PM
yeah, we're losing this because we don't have a go-to player.
Well, we aren't losing yet
Bobcat4Ever
12-26-2008, 09:46 PM
In other news, the Devon Harris Show has started
BobcatsAllDay
12-26-2008, 09:46 PM
The pick and roll is not that hard to guard(IMO). Send the guard to the screen, the defending big hedge to stop the ball and play it from there
davcbow
12-26-2008, 09:47 PM
we are looking lost out there at times..Diaw's shots aren't falling... WTF is going on, time out guys stop the bleeding.... Take it to the paint....:cool:
BobcatsAllDay
12-26-2008, 09:48 PM
2 more good possessions and we SHOULD have this one
Bobcat4Ever
12-26-2008, 09:50 PM
Beautiful defense by Oak right there
GREAT Defense!!!! That was beautiful.
Bobcat4Ever
12-26-2008, 09:50 PM
Raymond!!!!
He has been money tonight
BobcatsAllDay
12-26-2008, 09:51 PM
Big shot Ray!!
BobcatsAllDay
12-26-2008, 09:51 PM
GREAT Defense!!!! That was beautiful.
Yes that was great defense on that possessions
davcbow
12-26-2008, 09:52 PM
Did anyone else hear the announcers say that Felt's shot was a mistake? Said he was trying to pass and it went in anyway....lol :cool:
Bobcat4Ever
12-26-2008, 09:53 PM
Wallace gets to shoot 3!!!!!
Bobcat4Ever
12-26-2008, 09:54 PM
Wallace hits all 3
YES!
Scottley Crue
12-26-2008, 09:54 PM
Clutch FTs by Gerald.
ALong13
12-26-2008, 09:55 PM
they let it get close as they always do, but Felton has hit some big shots and we've played some great Defense.. and Wallace just hits all 3 Ft attempts...
Up by 9 with 1:06 to go...Let's take this win home guys...GO CATS!
Bobcat4Ever
12-26-2008, 09:55 PM
Nets just throwing up shots now
This one is OVER
Scottley Crue
12-26-2008, 09:56 PM
Let the FT shooting contest begin.
The defensive adjustments by LB on Harris won us this game. I'm starting to be more and more impressed with this team with every game.
Now 4 wins out of 5 and 4-2 since Diaw+Bell have started playing serious minutes.
Bobcat4Ever
12-26-2008, 09:58 PM
Bobcats WIN 95-87
Scottley Crue
12-26-2008, 10:00 PM
Ah, how appropriate that the Bobcats hold the Nets to less than 90, which is less than the worst scoring team in the league averages...who was that team again?
ALong13
12-26-2008, 10:00 PM
Bobcats WON!
Starting line-up for Charlotte was very good tonight IMO...Wallace may not be scoring 18-20 pts a game any more, but as long as we're winning I'm happy....won 4 of the last 5!
No trades needed right now while we are hot...don't mess with the chemistry IMO...
Scottley Crue
12-26-2008, 10:01 PM
The defensive adjustments by LB on Harris won us this game. I'm starting to be more and more impressed with this team with every game.
Now 4 wins out of 5 and 4-2 since Diaw+Bell have started playing serious minutes.
Agreed 100%. Moving Diaw up to take on Harris instead of Okafor doing it put an end to those layups he was getting. Great call by LB, great call.
BobcatsAllDay
12-26-2008, 10:03 PM
Good win can we go back-to-back?
TattoodCats4life
12-26-2008, 10:13 PM
Good win can we go back-to-back?
We shall see hopefully.
As far as trading, I'd say we need to figure out something with Felton, because he flat out almost lost the game for us when we were down by just a handful. We need to make some bench moves I think, cut loose what isnt producing, and see what we can get...
On another note, I was happy to see Singletary play, and frankly he seems like he was a good investment for the team...Now all we need to do is draft Curry and we'll be set.
ohara831
12-26-2008, 10:14 PM
Very impressive win for the Cats tonight. Very good games for Okafor, Crash, Diaw and Ray. I did not see the game, but assume that Bell was on Harris as they shut him down for the most part. If it was not Bell, then Ray must have done one hell of the defensive job.
spectre
12-26-2008, 10:26 PM
Very impressive win for the Cats tonight. Very good games for Okafor, Crash, Diaw and Ray. I did not see the game, but assume that Bell was on Harris as they shut him down for the most part. If it was not Bell, then Ray must have done one hell of the defensive job.
Felton was on Harris almost exclusively and he did a great job. We also sagged on him whenever he drove (first half mainly & the 3rd) making him give up the ball. Picking up an offensive right at the first (the Raja Bell Flop!) made him somewhat cautious from the beginning.
Bell played VC...and at first Carter was doing well...was something like 5 of 8. He started playing him really tight tho and VC ended up 8 of 21...and 2 of those were 3s at the end.
Our defense for most of the game was just sweet! In the 4th they got 3 shots at getting a score yet we held them off every time.
Felton hit 3 clutch shots, Boris one very high arcing shot when we really needed it and Crash nailed 3 FTs to really drive the nail in.
This one was a blast to watch...and we won!!!!!!!
Keetch
12-26-2008, 10:28 PM
Good good Bobcats game tonite. I thought we played a much smarter game than the Nets. You can see how better coached we are. This team is working fine, considering where its coming from. I kind of had a feeling we'd hold on for the win. Me like!
It was GREAT to have 2 real announcers from the other side. Fratello and Alpert are seasoned pro's; unlike the simpletons we often have to watch on League Pass. For once I didn't miss Steve Martin, Henry and Steph. Those guys were awesome.
Crash had a quiet but powerful game I thought; when he went out we suffered. Ray made some clutch shots, and Okafor did well again.
Diaw got a CRUCIAL basket in the 4th when we badly needed one.
Bad night for Matt; but I bet he turns it around tomorrow.
Maybe tomorrow we'll see Hollins instead of Nazr; though Nazr didn't do too bad. It's just hurts though to watch him....
spectre
12-26-2008, 10:30 PM
Couple other notes...as you guys have said the adjustment LB did for that high pick and roll was the exact right call! Gets a more agile Boris out to defend and leaves Mek playing goalie in the paint.
The ball movement, esp. compared to pre-Diaw was very nice. In time our TOs and those 3 second calls will go down as the guys are still adjusting to the pass first mentality.
A strong test will be tomorrow night. If we can take that one too then that playoff thread may indeed be justified.
dav7z
12-26-2008, 10:36 PM
We shall see hopefully.
As far as trading, I'd say we need to figure out something with Felton, because he flat out almost lost the game for us when we were down by just a handful. We need to make some bench moves I think, cut loose what isnt producing, and see what we can get...
On another note, I was happy to see Singletary play, and frankly he seems like he was a good investment for the team...Now all we need to do is draft Curry and we'll be set.
Felton all most lost the game? What game was you watching. Felts held Harris to 4 of 14 while scoring 19 points his self on 6 of 9 shooting? Props to Bell all so for stoping V.C in his tracks. Diaw flearting with a triple. Mek 20+ again Wallace taking just whats given all great games .
Felton player of the game for a great job on Harris. Out playing him on both sides of the floor.
Just think when DJ s ankle gets better . I think we get even better.
ohara831
12-26-2008, 10:42 PM
Spectre, thanks for the breakdown on the defensive gameplan tonight. I would love to have seen Ray play the Defense on Harris that shut him down. Defense has not been his strongest asset, so maybe he got some pointers from Bell. But it is just great to hear that the Defense was by Ray!
I love the way this team is coming together. Now it we just keep our heads on straight and dont blow the home half of this back to back, then we will be flying high! I am starting to feel more and more like this team can compete. I hated losing J-Rich and Dudley, but this trade is clearly not as one sided as many people were saying. Bell is starting to pay dividends, and Diaw has been awesome. And even Singleton has been helpful. I think LB knew exactly what he was doing, and it is paying dividends now.
davcbow
12-26-2008, 10:45 PM
Yeah that move LB made in the 4th to stop the bleeding leaving Mek under the basket was genius in my opinion... I agree that if we win tomorrow night that will definitely make a statement on our behalf.....Great win guys....
Go Bobcats!!!!:cool:
Melanie
12-26-2008, 11:05 PM
Sweet road win! :biggrin:
If only we hadn't lost that golden state game, a 5 game winning streak would have been AWESOME! 4 of the last 5 is GREAT to though! :biggrin:
WarioVsMooChicken
12-26-2008, 11:11 PM
It was GREAT to have 2 real announcers from the other side. Fratello and Alpert are seasoned pro's; unlike the simpletons we often have to watch on League Pass. For once I didn't miss Steve Martin, Henry and Steph. Those guys were awesome.
..........wut
TheBeagle
12-26-2008, 11:38 PM
The only part of the game I managed to catch was through the link on channelsurfing, when the 2nd qtr started with a 23-21 lead and quickly lead to a 29-23 defecit and I'm superstitious enough to know when I'm bringing my team bad luck so that was it...back to eating and watching movies with some fam...
Then I ask to turn it over to ESPNEWS at 11 and 'lo and behold a WIN!!!!!
Thanks for games recaps by y'all cause I haven't the slightest what happened. I was blown away by GW's stats: 16 pts on 8 shots, 13 rebs, 6 asts, block, stl....statwise, this was his most complete game of the season, and this needs to be the template for all games for him, and one in which he is most comfortable. Last year there were some misguided souls who said he was "ballhog" and that he was jealous that JRich was getting shots, etc.; this proves that Gerald just wants to play ball regardless of shots and points. I have to believe this is the happiest he's ever been as a Bobcat...it is an actual TEAM out there, and thusly, no pressure for him to have to shoulder anymore of a load than the other 4 guys out there with him. Great stuff!
Boris looked awful during the 3 minute stretch I watched, but was glad to see another 3D stat-stuffed night....especially glad to hear from y'all he hit a clutch 4 qtr shot.
Other than that, sucks it wasn't televised so I couldn't tape it, but a win is all that matters here (consecutive road wins?!?!?! Oh, the beauty!!), and am all the more jazzed for tomorrow night's game. All BCP minions, do your holiday duty and come down to the arena and help the Cats "rock this bitch"!!!
Muttley
12-27-2008, 01:58 AM
I was riding from Durham to Charlotte during the game, but was listening on the radio. I managed to catch the end of the 4th on that link that spectre posted (nice work!).
So glad we got this win! Larry's a genius and that's why he gets paid the big bucks. However, I think it makes me want tomorrow night's win even more. It could potentially have tie-breaking significance at the end of the season.
Diaw keeps sniffing triple-double territory! I hope he gets one this season. His passing has been great, and he's been a revolutionary figure for this team.
TattoodCats4life
12-27-2008, 08:53 AM
Diaw would have had a triple double if they had played DJ and Hollins with him, as Hollins is a little looser on boards and alot of plays with him and DJ go from DJ to him to DJ to the net or DJ to the Diaw to the 2 guard on duty to the net. 5-8 min of that combo and he would have had it...maybe tonight..
spectre
12-27-2008, 09:29 AM
Diaw would have had a triple double if they had played DJ and Hollins with him, as Hollins is a little looser on boards and alot of plays with him and DJ go from DJ to him to DJ to the net or DJ to the Diaw to the 2 guard on duty to the net. 5-8 min of that combo and he would have had it...maybe tonight..
Devin Harris would also probably have scored 40 points. DJ didn't look that good last night; he had no confidence on his shot and he struggled on offense whenever they'd double team him.
Maybe the ankle is still bothering him?
The entire starting group looked very good...the bench not so much.
Keetch
12-27-2008, 09:48 AM
DJ's ankle must still be sore. I wish one of our reporters out there would tell us something about it :confused: .
Hollins isn't really necessary against NJ as the match-ups don't leave him very useful. Mek and even Nazr can handle Lopez and/or Boone without much help; and it does't seem that the Nets play 2 bigs very often. Those guys are so slow that Hollins would probably go nuts from having to stand around so much; and start knocking people around just because he has to; he's Ryan.
On the other hand; I STILL think playing Okafor/Hollins and/or Nazr/Hollins together a bit, would give us an OVERWHELMING advantage for those minutes :biggrin:.
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