Diaw and the 3 point line

[Robertpel9]

Same comment from last night

WHY is Diaw always hanging around the arc, he is a not a SG. I understood what some were saying last night against the Celts about spreading the floor but who are we spreading it for tinight against the Cavs.

Last thing we need is another player hanging around the perimter. When we destroyed the Bucks at home Diaw played an instrumental part of moving the offense from near the foul line and the side of the key. When he floats around the perimeter night after night i just dont get it?

[playoffs...PLAYOFFS?]

GW does the same thing

but i guess thats not your point

diaw can drive the ball in, he can draw defenders and kick the ball out, he can get the ball and turn his back to the basket and still score, he is versatile enough to earn the right to hang around the perimeter

who cares anyways, i'm sure if it was a big deal it would be addressed..just like the coaches addressed GW's shot selection

we are not losing any games over this..if anything we are better

[amour217]

He's European, that's why.

The first thing I think of is good ol' Rik Smits...dude used to piss me off, 7'2" and hanging around the 3 point line. What garbage...if I was 7'2", I'd be averaging 27rpg in the NBA.

[TattoodCats4life]

The euro players tend to play a much more outside game.. Thing about Diaw is because he has been in the NBA for a while he is used to it and can do both as needed... Most 4's don't do well guarding him out that far and he's frequently good for at least 1 three per night, shooting 33% or so (he is better lately, but i think 33% from three is a reliable number from him).

Lexi on the other hand is 7-1+ (he has at least 1-1/2 inches on Hollins, and ALOT on Okafor just from my eyes getting autographs). He has a much better jump shot than most bigs his size but still needs to work on just about every part of his game before he is ready to play serious minutes.

[Slam]

A lot of the offense is run through him which he does from the high post.

It's not like he's just standing out there, catching and shooting a dozen 3pt attempts per night.

[Robertpel9]

A lot of the offense is run through him which he does from the high post.

It's not like he's just standing out there, catching and shooting a dozen 3pt attempts per night.


I agree when he works the high post he is very effective.

Maybe i am watching different games but since the bucs game where he did work the high post all night he has sat out at the three point line for two thirds of the game. I could care less about him hitting his obligatory one three a night. Look at how easily teams are able to drive tot he basket on us or worse have many second chance buckets because we have very little post presence. If Omeka does not grab the board (He does grab a lot of them but he is only one person) then the other team gets second chance shot after second chance shot.

Again perhaps i am missing something here but in the limited games i have watched since beginning to follow this team i see Diaw either being super effective working the high and mid post or get padded stats but not really help a fluid offense happen by parking on the perimeter. I see more of the latter than the former

Just my two pennies

[110oldeast]

Robert,

Are you talking about him on defense or offense?

I thought you were talking about him on offense, but when you mentioned the other teams getting second chance points on driving on us, this signaled defense.

[Robertpel9]

Sorry, late night post.

Basically both. On offense when he is drawn out there so far we have to make a high percentage of shots or we are toast and second chance buckets are few and far between. On the defensive end obviously we have less control over the matchup.

I like Diaw a lot, i think he moves the ball well and has some smarts to him. I am not sure how tough he is or how willing he is to be in the trenches down low. Obviously LB decides the offensive plays it is just my opinion the the offense flows much better when Diaw is working the key.

It will be interesting to see once Raja Bell is back how that changes the spread of the floor. He is a true 3 point threat (Yeah Diaw makes one a night but no team is shaking in their boots when he has the ball wide open outside the arc). I am hoping Bell helps spread the court more and allows Diaw to do apparently what he does best which is help move the ball fron the key

[JamieMcNeill]

In the small amount of the game i watched before my internet starting *#$@ing up i noticed the exact same thing. Wallace is playing SF and Diaw was playing PF but wallace seemed to be inside more than diaw. I know hes a great passer but he should be passing downlow to compress the D inside so we can get kickouts.

[krazyrumpshaker]

In the small amount of the game i watched before my internet starting *#$@ing up i noticed the exact same thing. Wallace is playing SF and Diaw was playing PF but wallace seemed to be inside more than diaw. I know hes a great passer but he should be passing downlow to compress the D inside so we can get kickouts.
on the flipside of that though. while diaw is out on the perimeter, his man has to come out to guard him, which opens up driving lanes. If the opposing PF is out guarding diaw, who can hit those long shots, then he is not there to get a rebound/block and we have an easier path to the goal. then if he drops off we then have the ability to kick it out for open shots.

[mathbzh]

I didn't see those two games. But don't you thing this has a lot to do with who his guarding him. Do you think Diaw could work Garnett or Big Ben in the low post?

[Slam]

If Omeka does not grab the board (He does grab a lot of them but he is only one person) then the other team gets second chance shot after second chance shot.
Team rebounding - meaning boxing out and helping EO50 on the boards - has been a problem for, oh, 5 years now!!

Bringing in Boris, a carrer 5 boards a game type guy, was never going to address that. Boris's strength is ball movement and creating for others as well as himself on the offensive end.

[Robertpel9]

Team rebounding - meaning boxing out and helping EO50 on the boards - has been a problem for, oh, 5 years now!!

Bringing in Boris, a carrer 5 boards a game type guy, was never going to address that. Boris's strength is ball movement and creating for others as well as himself on the offensive end.


Well then i think we are in a bad spot as we already have young fast players on the perimeter. We need help inside. We will never be a serious contender without an inside presence

[Slam]

Well then i think we are in a bad spot as we already have young fast players on the perimeter. We need help inside. We will never be a serious contender without an inside presence
Boris can score in the post by backing his defender down and creating his own offense, so that's a good thing. Hopefully Boris is smart enough and committed enough the box out to help on the boards as well?

I don't care if he only pulls down 5 boards a game - so long as he is stopping the opposing bigs from owning the glass and is helping EO50 have an easier time on the boards.

Plus Crash is a very, very good rebounder for a SF. If he commits to boxing out as well then inside I think we would be ok?

[TattoodCats4life]

Diaw's best move inside is to post and push a player to within about 3 feet of the basket then make a reverse hook or a reverse layup, all with his back to the basket most the time... He's quite good without looking at the rim.

[JamieMcNeill]

I didn't see those two games. But don't you thing this has a lot to do with who his guarding him. Do you think Diaw could work Garnett or Big Ben in the low post?

i understand doing this against KG hes a great defender but Ben is mad old and slow now, Diaw should be able to shake him and score