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I saw more of Hill last year than I have so far this year, but from what I have seen not a lot has changed. A great energy guy who is really long and mobile. The type of guy who loves to dunk everything within a few feet of the rim - and dunk it hard!! A good rebounder due in part to his mobility and the way he can get around his defender. Plays a little further outside of the key, usually in iso's on the elbow. Has shown an improved jumper.
Although he plays with a lot of power, his is a little slight in build. He can get away with it at the college level, but I wonder if he will at the NBA level? Not sure how much better he can get.
Reminds me a little of Chris Wilcox.
SWedd523
01-13-2009, 04:56 PM
I saw more of Hill last year than I have so far this year, but from what I have seen not a lot has changed. A great energy guy who is really long and mobile. The type of guy who loves to dunk everything within a few feet of the rim - and dunk it hard!! A good rebounder due in part to his mobility and the way he can get around his defender. Plays a little further outside of the key, usually in iso's on the elbow. Has shown an improved jumper.
Although he plays with a lot of power, his is a little slight in build. He can get away with it at the college level, but I wonder if he will at the NBA level? Not sure how much better he can get.
Reminds me a little of Chris Wilcox.
A lot of that seems to remind me of Twiggy, with the exception of the jumper. I don't think we look at Hill.. he doesn't really fit in with our team too well
A lot of that seems to remind me of Twiggy, with the exception of the jumper. I don't think we look at Hill.. he doesn't really fit in with our team too well
He's much more coordinated and smarter than Twiggy.
He is saying he will be staying in the draft. We need him in the draft - we need any many guys as possible in the draft to push as much talent down to us as we can get.
coordinator0
04-09-2009, 05:42 PM
I'm not a big fan of Hill's personally, but if he's in it means he will go before we pick and thus pushing better SG's to us, like Big Slam said.
davcbow
04-09-2009, 05:49 PM
I'm not a big fan of Hill's personally, but if he's in it means he will go before we pick and thus pushing better SG's to us, like Big Slam said.
Depends on where our lotto balls lay... We could end up with a high pick or we can end up with the last lotto pick.... Im not counting chickens but Im not tossing them out either....:cool:
coordinator0
04-09-2009, 07:11 PM
Depends on where our lotto balls lay... We could end up with a high pick or we can end up with the last lotto pick.... Im not counting chickens but Im not tossing them out either....:cool:
I think there will be a decent option even if we were to get the 14th pick, but the better the talent at other positions the better the chance that one of the better SG's (Harden, Evans, Derozan, Henderson) falls. I think the Hill will go top 5, so I do think he will push some guys down.
SWedd523
04-09-2009, 11:30 PM
Depends on where our...balls lay... Im not counting chickens but Im not tossing them out either....
...amour?;)
...amour?;)
LMAO :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
I had a feeling something would come out of that...I wonder how amour's gonna package it :p
davcbow
04-10-2009, 12:37 AM
...amour?;)
LMAO :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
I had a feeling something would come out of that...I wonder how amour's gonna package it :p
You'se guys!!! lol
ohara831
06-08-2009, 09:52 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/59681/20090608/jordan_hill_might_fall_on_draft_night/
Would this ever be nice. This kid is a Top 5 talent. If somehow slips to #12, I'd jump for joy. Find another way to get our SG, but we cant let this guy by us if a miracle happens and he's there at #12.
I can't see him possibly slipping to us...but it would really make up for some other drafts if he does...agree he is a talent and will be a starter sooner rather than later...and we have the two seconds to trade back into the first for a SG...would be nice...:g:
jazzer89
06-09-2009, 12:30 AM
see these are all rumors, i think that we will get a guy like hill. someone will drop and hill might be that guy. derozan, evans, or curry could fall. there is always one screw up or two on draft night. We are in a great location to draft a need without sacrificing talent. if no one falls we will still get a great player, especially with brown drafting. i cant wait for the draft
Dead_Real
06-09-2009, 05:49 AM
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/59681/20090608/jordan_hill_might_fall_on_draft_night/
Would this ever be nice. This kid is a Top 5 talent. If somehow slips to #12, I'd jump for joy. Find another way to get our SG, but we cant let this guy by us if a miracle happens and he's there at #12.
Although he would be extremely hard to pass on I think SG depth should be priority number 1 gotta get Bell some help & there should be plenty available at 12.
Not to mention what if Lexy pans out sooner rather than later.
I think in AAs case later...or maybe never...I posted early last season that he should go to the Dleague but he was not sent...he needs real work/playing time and now LB is calling him out...not a good sign if he is a coaching problem...we need a good young-athletic big and Hill will only get better with good coaching...take the two seconds and trade back in for a SG...but don't pass on Hill if he is there...
ohara831
06-09-2009, 11:08 AM
I think in AAs case later...or maybe never...I posted early last season that he should go to the Dleague but he was not sent...he needs real work/playing time and now LB is calling him out...not a good sign if he is a coaching problem...we need a good young-athletic big and Hill will only get better with good coaching...take the two seconds and trade back in for a SG...but don't pass on Hill if he is there...
I totally agree. If he's there, you cant pass on him.
Dead_Real
06-09-2009, 12:30 PM
I think in AAs case later...or maybe never...I posted early last season that he should go to the Dleague but he was not sent...he needs real work/playing time and now LB is calling him out...not a good sign if he is a coaching problem...we need a good young-athletic big and Hill will only get better with good coaching...take the two seconds and trade back in for a SG...but don't pass on Hill if he is there...
I'll give Lex the benefit due to being a Rook & Brown saying himself that he should have been in the NBDL earlier I'm not ready to give up on him just yet. Correct me if I'm wrong he put up solid #'s in the D right?
Jordan Hill is being overrated due to the 09 class having weak front court players plus he reminds me of Tyrus Thomas more so than CB4 who he has been compared too. We could possibly move back up but there is no guarantee someone solid (TWill, Ellington, Hendo or Teague) will fall I rather just take the best SG available at 12 Hill's not worth the risk imho.
I never advocated "moving up"...I said we should not pass on him if he is there at #12...we need a back-up SG that we can get by trading our two 2nds...Budinger and Thornton are both options after #20...as far as AAs numbers...well...which ones...the fouls or what? Sometimes he was OK...most of the time (IMO) he looked very lost...
Dead_Real
06-09-2009, 01:03 PM
I said nothing about moving up for Hill either what I said was the risk is taking Hill at 12 & our SG depth still being a question mark. I'm not confident in taking a lower ranked SG prospect using the 2 2nd rounders considering how having no replacement for Bell's absence hurt us this year. T-Will or Henderson would not only solve that problem but they could replace Bell as starters.
As far as Lex I wish we had more to go off of like a full season stint in the D but just off of skills alone I like the fact that Lexy has the potential to spread the floor with his J over a strictly banger like Hill.
SWedd523
06-09-2009, 01:31 PM
Of course it's be great if Hill fell to us at the 12 and we could certainly not pass on him if he did. But let's be serious guys, he will not fall to 12. All that talk is just a smokescreen. GMs put out bogus claims that try and confuse other teams.
Swedd I agree...the chance of Hill falling to us I put at none and less than none...the only reason I entertain the thought is all the trade talk with Memphis which might change the draft...there are teams that want/need PGs they might take a lesser player...If the Knicks actually go after Rubio it could tilt the draft in ways we can't anticipate...and with other teams (Washington, Detrit, and NO come to mind) looking to get out of the first round it might get interesting...
Even if all scenarios above happen I still doubt that Hill will drop to 12 but strange things have happened in drafts before...I just don't want to pass him if he does though...Jason Thompson (my guy from last year) helped make Hawes a better player with the Kings...He could have helped make EO50 a better player...I see Hill as that guy in this draft but I really see no way to get him without going out on a limb or giving up/taking back something we don't want to give or get...but if it happens (he drops) I would not give it a nano-second of thought...I draft him!
Swedd...the only reason I have a glimmer of hope is no one expected Lopez and Bayless to drop last year...so if the unexpected happens I just want to be ready...
Of course it's be great if Hill fell to us at the 12 and we could certainly not pass on him if he did. But let's be serious guys, he will not fall to 12. All that talk is just a smokescreen. GMs put out bogus claims that try and confuse other teams.
If you did draft him, would you be drafting him to replace/back up Boris or replace/back up EO50?
SWedd523
06-09-2009, 06:01 PM
BRNC, I know exactly what you mean and I agree. There's no way we could pass on a player with that much skill.
If you did draft him, would you be drafting him to replace/back up Boris or replace/back up EO50?
I think he could do both. He's big and super athletic so he could make up for both of Boris' and Mek's shortcomings. I think he would be able to reduce Boris' minutes and keep his performance at a maximum.
But if anything, it would make Mek expendable. Diop has enough defensive skill to back up Hill who would score just as much, if not more than Mek does now.
BRNC, I know exactly what you mean and I agree. There's no way we could pass on a player with that much skill.
I think he could do both. He's big and super athletic so he could make up for both of Boris' and Mek's shortcomings. I think he would be able to reduce Boris' minutes and keep his performance at a maximum.
But if anything, it would make Mek expendable. Diop has enough defensive skill to back up Hill who would score just as much, if not more than Mek does now.
So you're in the camp that thinks that Hill can play C full time in the NBA?
Slam I don't know that I'd go that far...I think he is a highly skilled (at this point and compared to other bigs in the draft) big that has a good all around game...he would work well with EO50 but would also work well with a guy like Diop that is more defense oriented...I think I'd start him out backing up Diaw but (IMO) he is a guy that would/could start his second year...and on a really weak team could/would start now...he has good size and can face up or play back to the basket...
I think guys like J. Thompson and Hill make guys like EO50 better and if nothing else would increase EO50s value...if we could get Hill...trade back in to the first with our two 2nds and get Thornton or Budinger I'd consider this a very solid draft that would give us help now...
See, that's just it BRNC - I think that Boris has a great importance to our team, so if we are playing Hill next to EO50, what are we doing with Boris?
See, that's just it BRNC - I think that Boris has a great importance to our team, so if we are playing Hill next to EO50, what are we doing with Boris?
Cut Raja's playing time and go big? If Jordan can't play center he'll have to come off the bench for now.
See, that's just it BRNC - I think that Boris has a great importance to our team, so if we are playing Hill next to EO50, what are we doing with Boris?
Slam for now I'd bring him in with Diop (back up Diaw)...but I'd like to see him play with both...Diaw coming off the bench would not bother me either (since I'm not all that enamored with his game...sometimes he shows up...sometimes he disappears)...I PFs like Thompson and Hill that have size and athleticism and are good all around...they will never be stars but I like 16-18/10-12 guys as much as I like stars and that is what I think these guys will be...
SWedd523
06-09-2009, 11:04 PM
See, that's just it BRNC - I think that Boris has a great importance to our team, so if we are playing Hill next to EO50, what are we doing with Boris?
I wouldn't go so far to say he's going to be a full time Center, but I think with the way the NBA is going that mobile bigs are the future. Players like Shaq and Yao are on the outs and players like Amare, Dwight, Bosh, and even Pau Gasol are on the rise.
As for playing time, Im sure that's a problem LB would love to have. But I think we both can agree that Boris' production started to drop off at times because of the heavy minutes he was playing. Give him 25 or so minutes and he'll do just fine. I would also love to see him and DJ running the offense together in the second unit with Diop and whoever else LB decided to put in.
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