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I did the same thing for each prospect the last few years (dedicated a thread to each of them) and it seemed to work pretty well. Thought I would do it again this year.
I've seen Evans about 6 times. He has a good body that looks like he could easily add muscle. He attacks the rim a lot using a great power step and change of direction and slice to get where ever he wants to go in the paint. Once drawing defenders makes quick and good decisions with the ball and throws up some nice touch passes to his team mates. You can see that he really wants to be "the man" and tkae over games. Really good length and quick hands allows him to be a good defender. Switches between the 1 and 2 spots, although Cal is starting to play him more at the point as the season goes on.
Tends to be a little trigger happy at times. Has a funky looking J that is a little deliberate and slow, shooting almost from his ear which makes me wonder how blockable it will be in the NBA. He good lift on his J though so that will help.
Reminds me a little of Rodney Stuckey.
During time outs and half time of our game Vs the Pistons I'[m flicking over to watch Memphis play Tulsa and Evans is looking sensational.
He's really come on strong over the past week or two since Cal has been playing him more at the point.
I originally had Larry Hughes as a comparative for Evans, but after seeing him a little more, I've changed it to Rodney Stuckey.
Can score, has handles, good defender, can play the point or the off guard, so-so 3pt shooting, great at driving into the lane, good body.
SWedd523
01-13-2009, 10:53 PM
Dude still kinda turns me off for some reason. I really don't know what it is but he doesn't wow me...
Take a look at Jodie Meeks if they're still playing, or look up his stat line! IDK if you remember me putting him on my big board, but this guy is goodddd
EDIT: 52 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists and the game isn't over yet!!!!!!!!
coordinator0
01-14-2009, 11:32 AM
I originally had Larry Hughes as a comparative for Evans, but after seeing him a little more, I've changed it to Rodney Stuckey.
Can score, has handles, good defender, can play the point or the off guard, so-so 3pt shooting, great at driving into the lane, good body.
If you really believe all of what you said he would be right up there with Harden for me. I personally would still take Harden over him but if he's gone by our pick Evans wouldn't be a terrible compensation prize. He's really the ideal 2 guard for me, especially since we have D.J. which could off-set Evans' so-so 3pt shooting.
If you really believe all of what you said he would be right up there with Harden for me. I personally would still take Harden over him but if he's gone by our pick Evans wouldn't be a terrible compensation prize. He's really the ideal 2 guard for me, especially since we have D.J. which could off-set Evans' so-so 3pt shooting.
Harden plays with a lot more poise and patience, but then again, Harden is older with more experience too so that should be expected.
Harden's long range shooting would be a massive plus.
IMO - Harden is the safer pick and would be great, but Evans has super star potential. There is just a bit of a risk weather or not he'll reach it.
Like I said, I was watching a lot of the Memphis Vs Tulsa game while we played the Pistons. This game came down to the wire and Memphis won on a buzzer beater.
Evans showed a LOT of passion and excitment - something I hadn't seen from him before. He was really vocal during the game playing the leaders role - another thing I liked to see.
Still, I'd take Harden 10 out of 10 times.
SWedd523
01-14-2009, 02:01 PM
Harden's only a sophomore. He plays the game like a seasoned vet. He was great last year too but was overshadowed by the bigger names. I still have Harden on my A level and Evans on the B level
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2009/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=FordDraftWatch-090123
7. Tyreke Evans (http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2008&playerId=19259), Fr., Memphis
Evans has been all over our draft board this season. He was hyped as one of the most NBA-ready freshmen in the country, but bombed out of the gate with poor shooting, poorer shot selection and a plethora of turnovers. Then John Calipari moved him to the point ... and suddenly Evans looks like a legit prospect again.
I don't think Evans will play the point in the pros, but he is one of those guards who needs the ball in his hands to create. A lot of scouts are still unsure about him, but the talent is there, and many of the execs I spoke with think he'll go somewhere between 15 and 25 if he declares for the draft this year. If Evans has his sights higher, he'll have to start hitting jumpers or wait another year.
Watched Memphis Vs Tennessee last night. Evans got into early foul trouble (again - seems to happen a lot) but still ended up with 17-8-2 on 7-16, 1-3, 2-3 shooting and only the 2 turn overs.
He needs to finish better at the rim. He can get there, but he has to learn to finish better.
Another thing I noticed was his jump shot. We have already said how he shoots from his ear, but I noticed last night that he also shoots with that split leg scissor thing that guys like LBJ and Vince Carter use. Difference with them is that they go in more often than they miss!
Combining his funky release point and scissor kick makes me wonder if he'll ever be a good shooter?
Also, Cal ripped him, and I mean tore shreads off him, when he picked up his 2nd early foul forcing him to sit most of the 1st. Cal was PISSED at him and he let it show.
Evans responded well though so that is a plus. You can tell he wants to be a big time player.
coordinator0
01-27-2009, 12:03 PM
I'm up and down on him right now. Earlier in the season he played the 2, and wasn't doing very good. Then Memphis moved him tot he 1 and he started playing a lot better. He's very intriguing, and is still probably on my top 5 for Charlotte, but there's just something... off to me.
SWedd523
01-27-2009, 06:45 PM
Watched Memphis Vs Tennessee last night. Evans got into early foul trouble (again - seems to happen a lot) but still ended up with 17-8-2 on 7-16, 1-3, 2-3 shooting and only the 2 turn overs.
He needs to finish better at the rim. He can get there, but he has to learn to finish better.
Another thing I noticed was his jump shot. We have already said how he shoots from his ear, but I noticed last night that he also shoots with that split leg scissor thing that guys like LBJ and Vince Carter use. Difference with them is that they go in more often than they miss!
Combining his funky release point and scissor kick makes me wonder if he'll ever be a good shooter?
Also, Cal ripped him, and I mean tore shreads off him, when he picked up his 2nd early foul forcing him to sit most of the 1st. Cal was PISSED at him and he let it show.
Evans responded well though so that is a plus. You can tell he wants to be a big time player.
I don't know exactly how to explain this but I'll try...
Usually big time players try and shoot stylishly, they try and look cool when they shoot so they try and jump high, or kick their legs, or emulate players before them. In Evans' case, VC and LBJ. It usually has a negative effect.
You can't teach shooting. You can try and correct little tendencies, but you can't fix a player's shot after he's been using it for years. I've gone to basketball camps and worked on my shot and good habits while I was young so I'd honestly say I'm a good critic on "shots". He won't be much more than an okay shooter. He wastes motion with the leg kick and with his ear level shot. You won't see him shooting at a high percentage with consistency
I don't know exactly how to explain this but I'll try...
Usually big time players try and shoot stylishly, they try and look cool when they shoot so they try and jump high, or kick their legs, or emulate players before them. In Evans' case, VC and LBJ. It usually has a negative effect.
You can't teach shooting. You can try and correct little tendencies, but you can't fix a player's shot after he's been using it for years. I've gone to basketball camps and worked on my shot and good habits while I was young so I'd honestly say I'm a good critic on "shots". He won't be much more than an okay shooter. He wastes motion with the leg kick and with his ear level shot. You won't see him shooting at a high percentage with consistency
I think you explained it perfectly Swedd - and I agree. I have doubts Evans will ever be a quality long range shooter. I still think his slashing ability will take him a long way, but he really needs a long ball and as it stands, I'm not sure he will.
Evans might end up falling in that "my game is better than it actually is" type of class - unless he can learn what his limitations are and where his pocket is.
In saying all that, I still like him! There is just something about him.
SWedd523
01-28-2009, 12:03 AM
The only thing really holding him back on his driving ability is his size. He's a taller guy, but he's thin. Some Pro level weight room will definitely cure that. As long as he has a willingness to drive and take it to the hole, he'll get better at it as time goes so that's no worry.
Watched him again today Vs Houston. To be frank, he was pretty awful in the 1st half. In the 2nd half he did some great things though including some very athletic spin moves into the lane for easy layups. He continues to rebound and defend really well.
They were saying that over the last 11 games since Cal moved him to the point full time he has averaged 50% from the floor, 43% from down town, 7 boards and 5 assists. In fact, at this stage of the season he is putting up better numbers than Rose was running the point for the Tigers at the same time.
But Lordy me he makes some bone headed plays. I wonder if it's just because he's so young?
He's actually reminding me of how I feel about Felts. At times he just fills your heart with love and you feel blessed to have him on your team. Then on the next possession you are blown away that he could do something so dumb.
Not sure if I could handle two guys like that on my team at once!!
SWedd523
02-01-2009, 12:02 PM
Maybe they could cancel each other out? ;)
The kid is such an enigma. Watching him again last night against SMU he'd come down the court and make a really good play and show signs of being something special. But the very next play he'd come down and take a stupid off balance shot very early in the shot clock and against the flow of the offense. Then a couple of plays later, another great defensive play or drive to the hoop only to make another bone headed play not long after.
He really is a roller coaster.
There is just "something" about him though - something that is very appealing.
He finished with 26pts (8-18, 2-6, 8-11), 4 boards, 4 assists and 2 steals.
http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=909645
JamieMcNeill
02-08-2009, 10:52 AM
Anyone else watch him against gonzaga last night?
He looked real good.
Old concerns i had with him are beginning to melt away but a new one has emerged....
Since he has played better since moving to the 1, how will he play the 2 in the nba?
Anyone else watch him against gonzaga last night?
He looked real good.
Old concerns i had with him are beginning to melt away but a new one has emerged....
Since he has played better since moving to the 1, how will he play the 2 in the nba?
I only watched bits and pieces of the game but what I did see he looked good (again).
Totally agree with your concern. I still think he'd be better suited to the 2 spot in the NBA though. His handles and passing would be a huge benefit to our PG's in the back court.
We could still run the ball through his hands a lot and play Felts and DJ off the ball a little.
JamieMcNeill
02-08-2009, 05:01 PM
I only watched bits and pieces of the game but what I did see he looked good (again).
Totally agree with your concern. I still think he'd be better suited to the 2 spot in the NBA though. His handles and passing would be a huge benefit to our PG's in the back court.
We could still run the ball through his hands a lot and play Felts and DJ off the ball a little.
Just think about two great passing guards in our backcourt. Both which can score when needed. Evans slashing and DJ shooting the lights out. And also dishing to Mek, Gerald and Diaw for easy layups.
damn. that sounds nice.
Just think about two great passing guards in our backcourt. Both which can score when needed. Evans slashing and DJ shooting the lights out. And also dishing to Mek, Gerald and Diaw for easy layups.
damn. that sounds nice.
And he plays pretty good D too - which is an added kicker. I could see Raja really mentoring him and help bring him along.
JamieMcNeill
02-08-2009, 06:02 PM
And he plays pretty good D too - which is an added kicker. I could see Raja really mentoring him and help bring him along.
If Raja could mold him into an amazing defender like him and help his shooting.
Add in the slashing skills hes already got...
can you say DAYUM
Here is a nice little write up.
He has had criticism this year for not being a team player and taking terrible shots. But, the truth is that Evans knows how to put the ball in the hoop. He is the leading scorer for a team that has all of a sudden won 15 in a row and ranked 10th in the nation. Because he has such a strong body and absorbs contact with such ease, he also leads his team is free throw attempts, where he convert 71%.
Swedd: You seem to think that Evans is too thin or small and I'm not sure why?
http://media.commercialappeal.com/mca/content/img/photos/2008/12/28/29c1f.jpeg
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1122/ncb_a_evans_400.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07vQcGx3YC6dg/610x.jpg
SWedd523
02-16-2009, 09:00 PM
Well he's going to look bigger as he's running (see first pic) compared to general motion (other two). It's not that he's scrawny, but you will agree that the college game isn't anywhere near as rough as the NBA.
I say he's thin because (as we both agree) his game is in slashing and taking it to the hole because he doesn't have a reliable outside game. He's not big enough to handle the punishment at the next level.
On the contrary, I think his game and it's style is much more suited to the NBA than it is to college ball.
He has a great change of direction when he drives and a great power step. The more open paint in the NBA coupled with the hand checking rule will really play to his strengths.
He needs to learn to finish with his left though.
SWedd523
02-16-2009, 09:39 PM
On the contrary, I think his game and it's style is much more suited to the NBA than it is to college ball.
He has a great change of direction when he drives and a great power step. The more open paint in the NBA coupled with the hand checking rule will really play to his strengths.
He needs to learn to finish with his left though.
Once he goes up and gets trashed by the big men, he's going to either get hurt or stop doing it as much and fall back on his outside game. Use DJ and Felts as a comparison. I've seen pictures where DJ looks cut up, and we all know he's adept at driving the lane, but he's been taking some punishment and has missed time from injuries. Felton, on the other hand, is much stockier and has been able to handle the punishment better.
I'm just a fan of thicker built guys. LeBron, Billups, Kidd, Dwight, etc.
That's why I like Harden so much.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/NCAA-Weekly-Performers-21909-3113/
Evans in turn is gaining steam for being awarded national freshman of the year honors.
Evans looked every bit "the man" today Vs UTEP pretty much scoring at will and in a variety of ways. He finished with:
25pts (9-13, 3-4, 4-8), 8 boards, 3 assists, 1 steal and 3 blocks.
Just another outstanding game by the freshman.
SWedd523
03-14-2009, 09:48 PM
18/5/6/2 in Memphis' final win against Tulsa
ohara831
03-27-2009, 01:14 PM
Though they got bounced last night, the kid played like a champ. I would definitely take him over over a lot of others if we are in the #9-#14 spot.
Unlike many players who go down with their teams without putting up a fight, Evans showed great intensity and fire helping lead the Tigers back into a game that they easily could have packed it in and quit. Down 24 points, Memphis scratched and clawed their way back in giving Missouri a late scare before eventually being eliminated.
Evans finished with a season high 33 points on an effective 12-25 shooting and a perfect 9-9 from the line in one of the top single game performances of the entire tournament. The tenacity he showed and competitive fire is one of his best assets and something that many players are lacking.
Reke has begun to deliver on the promise he showed in high school which made him a household name and the #1 rated player in his class early in his high school career.
He has really developed physically becoming very strong at driving and finishing around the basket, despite not having great explosiveness. His first step is good and he really excels when he gets a head of steam on his defender moving towards the basket as he has some great shake and bake moves and an innate ball handling ability.
Evans is a unique player. He's similar to Stephen Jackson with his size and great ability to handle the ball and play the lead guard position. Obviously a 27 game winning streak with him running the show helps his cause.
The big drawback for him that scouts question is whether he can be effective without the ball out of his hands, and his ability to be a productive member of a winning team. Because there's little question he can score and be productive in the NBA, but his ball dominance might be a hindrance if he doesn't become more efficient and learn how to play better off the ball.
He's a player that scouts are all over the board with, but his great one on one skills and length give him good promise and it would be interesting to see how/whether he could fit into and contribute to a playoff level team. His stock is on the rise, as scouts project him in the 18-30 range.
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Evans has made the argument over the past two weeks that he, not Willie Warren (http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2009&playerId=19322), is the best freshman in college basketball. He capped off a great tournament with a spectacular 33-point performance against Missouri. Although it came in a losing effort, Evans showed off some big-time moves driving to the basket -- his ability to change directions and finish is amazing. Combine that with his long arms and NBA body, and Evans has great appeal as an NBA scorer who can get his own shot.
On the other hand, the tournament also highlighted Evans' weaknesses. He still struggles with his jump shot, plays out of control and sometimes forgets that he has four teammates on the floor.
Still, the chances are very strong that he's going to declare for the draft. And if he does, I expect him to go somewhere between 8 and 14 on draft night.zcczxczczxczxc
coordinator0
03-31-2009, 05:06 PM
With the expected departure of Calipari to Kentucky I would fully expect him to declare for the draft. I haven't been to fond of him in the past but i'm starting to really like him, especially after seeing him play the way he did in the tournament. He and D.J. would make an extremely good duo, and they would compliment each other nicely with D.J.'s shooting and Evans' drving.
With the expected departure of Calipari to Kentucky I would fully expect him to declare for the draft. I haven't been to fond of him in the past but i'm starting to really like him, especially after seeing him play the way he did in the tournament. He and D.J. would make an extremely good duo, and they would compliment each other nicely with D.J.'s shooting and Evans' drving.
I have a feeling that it wouldn't matter if God was coach of the Tigers next season, Tyreke would be heading for the NBA.
I think he's one of those kids that just wants it that bad - maybe to a point of fault?
SWedd523
03-31-2009, 10:15 PM
Tyreke belongs in the NBA.
Slam that first article you quoted voices one of my main concerns with him. Is he the type of guy that needs to dominate the ball to be successful? If we took him, he'd be a SG next to Ray and DJ in Larry's team ball system. Would be be the same player not having control of the ball?
One other thing is his jumper. I haven't really seen much of him since the beginning of the season so I don't know how much he's developed. How's his form now?
ohara831
03-31-2009, 10:50 PM
The ESPN mock has us getting him at #13. Even if we make the Playoffs, we should be in that #14 - #15 range. There is a good chance he could be in a Cats uniform next season. Gotta say, there is some risk involved if he doesn't come anywhere near to his potential. But there are great rewards also. If he turns out to be a good as his potential, he could be a star in the making. And the kind a player that puts a good young team like Charlotte over the top and into a real contender.
Sorry for the over dramatics. But I think this kid would be fantastic in Charlotte.
G-Force for MVP
03-31-2009, 11:09 PM
i would like to see him in charlotte
As expected, he has confirmed he will be entering the draft. I think he was always going to be a one and done, no matter what:
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/mar/31/tyreke-evans-tells-foxsportscom-hes-leaving-memphi/
Tyreke belongs in the NBA.
Slam that first article you quoted voices one of my main concerns with him. Is he the type of guy that needs to dominate the ball to be successful? If we took him, he'd be a SG next to Ray and DJ in Larry's team ball system. Would be be the same player not having control of the ball?
I have many concerns about him, but am equally drawn to him. I thought that Westbrook was the kid with the most "super star" potential in last years draft - I feel the same about Evans. Doesn't mean he'll get there, but I think he is bursting with that potential to be something special.
One other thing is his jumper. I haven't really seen much of him since the beginning of the season so I don't know how much he's developed. How's his form now
It's still funky - but it's effective. He shot the ball MUCH better in the 2nd half of the season.
There is a good chance he could be in a Cats uniform next season.
Why - because the ESPN mock draft says so?
ohara831
04-01-2009, 11:14 PM
No. Because he may very well be available when we pick. And if he is, I would love to see us take him.
No. Because he may very well be available when we pick. And if he is, I would love to see us take him.
I see. You meant you would like to see us draft him, not that there has been any indication that we would.
When you wrote "There is a good chance he could be in a Cats uniform next season" it seemed like you had read some where that we had shown interest.
ohara831
04-02-2009, 07:07 PM
I see. Sorry for my poor phasing. Yes, the more I've seen of him, I see a great deal of star potential. But there is a good bit of risk, and I dont see him going Top 10. If we dont make the Playoffs, he may be there around #13. But he wont fall out of the Lottery.
Yeah, the only person we could see being in a 'Cats uni next year because of us liking him is Steph Curry, and thats pretty obvious
As far as Evans, I like him, but I'm not sure if hes the perfect fit for LB's system...then again, who is?
coordinator0
04-02-2009, 07:49 PM
Yeah, the only person we could see being in a 'Cats uni next year because of us liking him is Steph Curry, and thats pretty obvious
As far as Evans, I like him, but I'm not sure if hes the perfect fit for LB's system...then again, who is?
As for "us" liking Curry, I assume you mean "you." I'm still high on Tyreke, but i will change my mind again. And that is guaranteed.
As for "us" liking Curry, I assume you mean "you." I'm still high on Tyreke, but i will change my mind again. And that is guaranteed.
as far as "us" I mean the 'Cats front office
I was responding to Ohara saying he could see Evans in a Bobcats jersey next year, then saying it wasnt off any inside info. I was just saying the only player that the Bobcats would be high on outside of talent is Steph
Not that it matters any, but I had no idea that Tyreke Evans is Reggie Evans younger brother!!
ohara831
06-18-2009, 10:25 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9689114/2009-NBA-mock-draft:-Version-2.0
Another of the newer ones with Tyreke falling to us at #12. I would not cry, even though many of the T-Will supporters might be unhappy. It would be worth the risk of taking him. Doesn't mean I dont like T-Will, to the contray I do like him a lot. But Evans has a lot more "star" potential.
Also interesting that this is yet another of the recent mocks with Henderson going #9 to Toronto. I am seeing this a lot now. I think someone in that organization is talking.
jpf_v2.0
06-21-2009, 10:55 PM
Just noticed that NBAdraft.net (the source of the foxsports mock that Ohara linked to) has Tyreke Evans falling to us at 12.
It would be nice but unless the T'Wolves move up (they loved him) I think he's gone #6...
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