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TattoodCats4life
01-19-2009, 08:45 AM
Well, first of all happy MLK day to everyone. As has been the Cat's tradition on this important day, we are hosting a matinee game at 2 pm. There are still LOTS of tix if anyone wants to go but wasn't sure, me I'm sitting at home with the TV on while I work.

Today is important for the Bobcats as it is our first game with Diop. Can Diop hold back Duncan, I'd guess so as he has much more practice at it, including playoffs experience.

With all the focus on Diop and the trade we shouldn't forget the REAL matchup this game, and that appears to be at the 2 spot. We're a bit weak there, but Bell should be great and we all KNOW what Shannon can do when they give him a chance... With Tony Parker, Manu and Mason I think our back court is going to have their hands full, this should be an interesting watch...

Here's to 4 in a row :cheers1:

bing!
01-19-2009, 09:26 AM
ahh, the two o'clock game, it's been a while since I've seen a game that hasn't been broadcast past the witching hour. Bobcats, the Heel Ornaments killers.

ammofan
01-19-2009, 09:30 AM
Diop vs Duncan! An Epic battle!

ohara831
01-19-2009, 09:59 AM
Well, the guys in Dallas say Diop was important in their battles with Duncan. Now we see if he can help us. The backcourt of the Spurs is great, so Raja, Ray and company will have their hands full. Spurs played a road game the night before last and yesterday was a travel day for the Spurs. Perhaps they are a little tired and we can take advantage of it. Gotta come our strong though. If we start out weak and get behind by double digits early, the Spurs know how to apply the foot to the throat and finish people off. Gotta be right there with them late in the 4th, and then it becomes a battle of wills. And right now, the will of this team has never been higher!
Bobcats 89 Spurs 84

TattoodCats4life
01-19-2009, 10:17 AM
Spurs tired, early game, and we're rested. I like the combination.

Melanie
01-19-2009, 10:23 AM
Let's go Bobcats for win #4!!!! I'm really excited about this game! If we can pull off a win today, then we should be able to beat Memphis and go into the Suns game with a 5 game winning streak!

TattoodCats4life
01-19-2009, 10:27 AM
Let's go Bobcats for win #4!!!! I'm really excited about this game! If we can pull off a win today, then we should be able to beat Memphis and go into the Suns game with a 5 game winning streak!

Very good point...that would power us up for our first win against the Suns...

ArcandiaS
01-19-2009, 10:57 AM
Here is the game between the two best french players in NBA. Boris Diaw vs. Tony Parker.

I'm very excited but I've no possibilities to watch this game... It's on french television so not on french ilp. And this game is in the time of a Handball game of World Championship concerning France, so my father is going to kick me out the tv... great :(.

But maybe you'll have a link. I hope.


Let's go Cats for a fourth straight win!!

TattoodCatswife
01-19-2009, 11:34 AM
Like I keep saying, I can't wait to see what Diop can do for us and see how he performs...

G-Force for MVP
01-19-2009, 11:37 AM
lets go lasagna diop!!!!

ziggy
01-19-2009, 11:57 AM
If you'd like to spy on the enemy's game thread then check out:

Spurstalk --> http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114727

TattoodCats4life
01-19-2009, 12:00 PM
If you'd like to spy on the enemy's game thread then check out:

Spurstalk --> http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114727


Good deal... reading in there I found one piece of info interesting. They are hoping to not abuse their starters due to being on a back to back... Hopefully we tear them up early and they give up, that'd be a good way for them to rest their starters.

TattoodCats4life
01-19-2009, 12:04 PM
I wanted to point give you all something else, there is an NBA leaguepass preview, so if you live outside the bobcat's viewing area you will be able to watch this game on leaguepass, and if you're at work you can sign up for an NBA leaguepass broadband acct and watch it online with a very good feed. Dont know if coverage on leaguepass is us of spurs coverage, but its better than not watching at all.

TattoodCats4life
01-19-2009, 12:47 PM
Referee Assignments
Mon. Jan. 19
San Antonio @ Charlotte: E. Rush, J. Forte, E. Roe

Forte has a significant dislike for the cats...

spectre
01-19-2009, 12:52 PM
I wanted to point give you all something else, there is an NBA leaguepass preview, so if you live outside the bobcat's viewing area you will be able to watch this game on leaguepass, and if you're at work you can sign up for an NBA leaguepass broadband acct and watch it online with a very good feed. Dont know if coverage on leaguepass is us of spurs coverage, but its better than not watching at all.

Unless it's changed that only works if you're outside the blackout area...in other words all on North Carolina and parts (all?) of South Carolina.

But please let me be wrong.

TattoodCats4life
01-19-2009, 01:08 PM
Unless it's changed that only works if you're outside the blackout area...in other words all on North Carolina and parts (all?) of South Carolina.

But please let me be wrong.

I'm not sure, whats to say you don't in an address outside the viewing area :) Not to mention, if your cable co doesnt carry FSCR shouldn't you then be able to watch it on the league pass (i think someone said they are in Asheville and cant get FSCR, so it'd make sense that you'd get to see the game on league pass then).

Its worth a try, and with the online, I'd just give an address in manhattan or something to make sure there is no chance its blacked out.

stent
01-19-2009, 01:09 PM
I found this stream...not sure it will work. So if you have an other one, it could help

http://albaaa.altervista.org/watch.php?id=201

TattoodCats4life
01-19-2009, 01:14 PM
FYI broadband leaguepass uses your IP address to figure out where you are for black out purposes. Sorry to get hopes up :( My solution for you all DirecTV + League pass (but find out what the coverage is for fox sports carolinas in your area before signing up).

spectre
01-19-2009, 01:27 PM
FYI broadband leaguepass uses your IP address to figure out where you are for black out purposes. Sorry to get hopes up :( My solution for you all DirecTV + League pass (but find out what the coverage is for fox sports carolinas in your area before signing up).

DirectTV is the same as DISH with the same blackout areas. None of them would pay Fox Sports the added charge to televise the Bobcats' games.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7781

well covered here.

bing!
01-19-2009, 01:28 PM
Both Ryan and Matt are in the game for Dallas; Ryan just dunked the ball for his first points as a Maverick, I'm so glad for the guys. And on a side note, trounce the Spurs.

TattoodCats4life
01-19-2009, 01:29 PM
DirectTV is the same as DISH with the same blackout areas. None of them would pay Fox Sports the added charge to televise the Bobcats' games.

I don't know, I live just outside charlotte, but I get FS Carolinas and every bobcats game on both that and sport south... I wish everyone got them, just don't know what the map looks like. From what I understand next year all of north and south carolina are getting FS Carolinas (Hurricanes and Cats).

docend24
01-19-2009, 01:39 PM
I have a good connection but not on my PC. So any link whoch does not require any installation (so no sopcast etc.) would be appreciated. keep them coming guys.

Cats FTW!

docend24
01-19-2009, 01:45 PM
Just checked Dal-Phi boxscore. Matt and Ryan are best in +/- from their team. :) (Hammer +7 already)

Dlpz87
01-19-2009, 02:09 PM
I'm picking it up on FS-South on TWC right now, and I'm 30mins north of Raleigh...

stent
01-19-2009, 02:15 PM
http://fr.justin.tv/kostaz009

krazyrumpshaker
01-19-2009, 02:16 PM
need to watch those 3s.

spectre
01-19-2009, 02:18 PM
http://fr.justin.tv/kostaz009

+1 for you...great job!

Slam
01-19-2009, 02:18 PM
There is a live chat going on here. Why go there?


Seems like EO50 is involved early.

krazyrumpshaker
01-19-2009, 02:21 PM
nice move by diaw.

krazyrumpshaker
01-19-2009, 02:21 PM
im ready to see how diop is going to do. cant wait to see him play

krazyrumpshaker
01-19-2009, 02:22 PM
http://fr.justin.tv/kostaz009
thanks for the find.

spectre
01-19-2009, 02:23 PM
Awesome...just in time for a 8 to 2 run and snagging the lead!

Everyone is looking good! Diaw with the 3 and a driving/spinning midrange, Felts down low for a dunk by Mek...Raja with the 3!

If they keep this up maybe we have a chance. :cool:

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 02:28 PM
I predict the Bobcats are going to lose today.

(There Is A Method To My Madness)

bing!
01-19-2009, 02:30 PM
I predict the Bobcats are going to lose today.
That's a LIE.

spectre
01-19-2009, 02:32 PM
(There Is A Method To My Madness)

Trolling?

That quarter could have ended better.

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 02:32 PM
That's a LIE.No just a prediction. (There Is A Method To My Madness) ;)

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 02:33 PM
Trolling?

That quarter could have ended better.If my method works you will know what it is. ;) If it does not I will tell you.

TattoodCatswife
01-19-2009, 02:34 PM
Sucky Diop is inactive...hopefully he can play on Wednesday...

ohara831
01-19-2009, 02:34 PM
Not the way to finish a qtr! We were up 21 - 18, and end up down 27 - 21. They hit us with a 9-0 run, and Shannon cannot hit FT's.

Slam
01-19-2009, 02:36 PM
Sucky Diop is inactive...hopefully he can play on Wednesday...
Did they say why?

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 02:37 PM
Can't rebound for chit today.

This game sucks as of right now.

spectre
01-19-2009, 02:37 PM
We have given up 5 offensive boards on the 3 last plays.

Lord.

Melanie
01-19-2009, 02:38 PM
Unless it's changed that only works if you're outside the blackout area...in other words all on North Carolina and parts (all?) of South Carolina.

But please let me be wrong.

It's blacked out for me with direct tv and about 1 1/2 west of Asheville. I have no luck!


http://fr.justin.tv/kostaz009

It's not working for me???

davcbow
01-19-2009, 02:39 PM
We have got to get those rebounds for us to have a chance of winning this....:cool:

bing!
01-19-2009, 02:39 PM
...yup, that's three consecutive missed layups, all hail Nazr.

Melanie
01-19-2009, 02:40 PM
Nevermind, I tried again and now it's working.

Slam
01-19-2009, 02:40 PM
We have given up 5 offensive boards on the 3 last plays.

Lord.
10:09 CHA - J. Howard offensive rebound
10:09 CHA - J. Howard misses a layup
10:10 CHA - N. Mohammed offensive rebound
10:10 CHA - N. Mohammed misses a layup
10:12 CHA - N. Mohammed misses a layup

U-G-L-Y

davcbow
01-19-2009, 02:41 PM
I predict that SA is going to get tired in the 2nd half and we will make our final run at them, just cant let it get out of hand before then....:cool:

spectre
01-19-2009, 02:42 PM
^ Good...was going to suggest trying it again.

The bench man...the bench. Hopefully Gana will help that rebounding out a lot.

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 02:42 PM
Despite our problems rebounding on defense the game is still fairly close. If the team can do better rebounding we have a real shot to win this game.

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 02:44 PM
Nazr is slow and unathletic. I hope there is a trade to get rid of him.

bing!
01-19-2009, 02:46 PM
The hoop hates Nazr and the feelings are mutual.

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 02:48 PM
If the Bobcats keep giving extra shot opportunities to the mighty Spurs this game will be over quick.

spectre
01-19-2009, 02:49 PM
The hoop hates Nazr and the feelings are mutual.

LOL! Truer words...

On a positive note we're still right with them, so as soon as we can get Nazr out we can probably make some headway.

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 02:51 PM
...yup, that's three consecutive missed layups, all hail Nazr.


LOL! Truer words...

On a positive note we're still right with them, so as soon as we can get Nazr out we can probably make some headway.Our problems today go beyond Nazr. The team keeps giving up second chance opportunities. That will surely hurt us if that don't change. If that keeps up my method won't work.

bing!
01-19-2009, 02:53 PM
Well, with his 'dominating' stature, Nazr is suposed to be our 'grab the offensive board and lay/tip it in' guy. In his stead, any other player would do better,
... and I mean A N Y.

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 03:02 PM
Well, with his 'dominating' stature, Nazr is suposed to be our 'grab the offensive board and lay/tip it in' guy. In his stead, any other player would do better,
... and I mean A N Y.Yes I agree Nazr should rebound better but as a team nobody is boxing out or getting in position very well. If they do that this team is leading instead of trailing.

bing!
01-19-2009, 03:06 PM
The Cats are (were) within one.

spectre
01-19-2009, 03:07 PM
Tony Parker is flat out amazing on the drive.

DanielWheeler
01-19-2009, 03:10 PM
Boo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bad Call!!!!!!!!!

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 03:11 PM
The Cats are (were) within one.Parker will kill us if we can't stop inside penetration. He is sooo quick and hard to defend. I would say force the Spurs to let one player beat us but if that one player is Parker that would be a big mistake. We need to stop Parker and see who else will step up to beat us. Ginobli and Duncan are killers as well but I can see this game getting out of hand quick with a hot Parker allowed to take over.

spectre
01-19-2009, 03:11 PM
Y'know, I watched Steve Nash do what Raja just did last night and he got the call. Oh well. It's the Spurs...of course they'll get the benefit of the doubt.

We're only down 5. Hopefully we use that during halftime to come back and take this game.

ohara831
01-19-2009, 03:12 PM
Are we down 5? On Yahoo, they haved us down 5 but at the end have a Tech on us. Who got it, and did they shoot it or do they start the 3rd with a FT?

TattoodCatswife
01-19-2009, 03:12 PM
Boo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bad Call!!!!!!!!!

Definitely bad call..Bell should have gotten the free throws >:(

ohara831
01-19-2009, 03:13 PM
We are within 5 which is good. But the scary part is none of their Big 3 has gotten going really. If 2 of them do, we can get blown out quickly.

stent
01-19-2009, 03:14 PM
diop is not playing tpnight?

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 03:14 PM
Are we down 5? On Yahoo, they haved us down 5 but at the end have a Tech on us. Who got it, and did they shoot it or do they start the 3rd with a FT?Start the third with a FT. LB got the call. I missed the bad no call but I believe Raja was fouled taking a shot and it was not called. At the half we are down only 5 with the Technical going against us to start the third.

TattoodCatswife
01-19-2009, 03:15 PM
diop is not playing tpnight?

Nope he is not which I feel is total bull

TattoodCatswife
01-19-2009, 03:16 PM
Diaw is having an excellent game so far though

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 03:17 PM
I have a bad feeling about Tony Parker catching fire. We better pressure him with doubles outside and not let him take over. The other two stars don't seem to be in a takeover mode today.

TattoodCats4life
01-19-2009, 03:18 PM
This game is going exactly how I envisioned it, we're defending well, but missing rebounds and giving up second chance points, we're not really "on fire" offensively, so we're down... The refs clearly have money on this game. I knew that would be the case with Forte reffing...he's such a waste of air.

ohara831
01-19-2009, 03:19 PM
I have a bad feeling about Tony Parker catching fire. We better pressure him with doubles outside and not let him take over. The other two stars don't seem to be in a takeover mode today.


True. But Duncan is always just solid. Ginobali though can catch fire real quick and drop a dozen on you in 6 minutes. That man is dangerous.

Slam
01-19-2009, 03:21 PM
Y'know, I watched Steve Nash do what Raja just did last night and he got the call. Oh well. It's the Spurs...of course they'll get the benefit of the doubt.
What happened?

spectre
01-19-2009, 03:25 PM
What happened?

Clock ticking down...Ammo throws about a 1/3 court pass to Bell on the elbow of the 3 line. The defender came at him, Bell faked and the guy twisted in midair. Bell leaned into him and took the shot...no call.

Sure he was trying to draw the foul, but like I said about Nash players do that all the time. He got hit (on the right shoulder)...so he should have got FTs.

LB thought so too; he was pissed. He walked away throwing his hand out...came back and yelled...walked away...you get the picture.

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 03:25 PM
True. But Duncan is always just solid. Ginobali though can catch fire real quick and drop a dozen on you in 6 minutes. That man is dangerous.Your right Ohara but we need to figure out which player is hot, double him and hope the other two stars don't catch fire. Hardly anybody can beat the Spurs when all three are hot. Tony Parker being the pg though is the one getting the other guys hot and if he enjoys constant penetration we could be in it deep in a heart beat. Tony shoots well but is somewat cold til he gets easy penetration. That usually sets him on fire and he fires up his teammates. ;)

Slam
01-19-2009, 03:28 PM
Clock ticking down...Ammo throws about a 1/3 court pass to Bell on the elbow of the 3 line. The defender came at him, Bell faked and the guy twisted in midair. Bell leaned into him and took the shot...no call.

Sure he was trying to draw the foul, but like I said about Nash players do that all the time. He got hit (on the right shoulder)...so he should have got FTs.

LB thought so too; he was pissed. He walked away throwing his hand out...came back and yelled...walked away...you get the picture.
Thanks. I'll check it out tonight. Wifey is recording the game for me.

If the defender jumped straight up and not at Bell and Bell jumped into him, I think Bell would be in trouble though - right?

spectre
01-19-2009, 03:31 PM
Nah, he basically leaned to the right and let the guy fall on his right shoulder...it was the defender's foul.

Fuck...the link stopped working.

We're up 2 with 9 left in the 3rd.

Slam
01-19-2009, 03:31 PM
We are really starting to believe in ourselves as a team.

davcbow
01-19-2009, 03:32 PM
Mek with a dunk, thats the way to take the lead....:cool:

Slam
01-19-2009, 03:32 PM
Fuck...the link stopped working.

We're up 2 with 9 left in the 3rd.
Not sure if this is the one you had but Fluffer posted this one:


http://albaaa.altervista.org/watch.php?id=201

ohara831
01-19-2009, 03:32 PM
Now that's how to start the 3rd! Yeah!

ohara831
01-19-2009, 03:33 PM
We are really starting to believe in ourselves as a team.

That is the best way to sum up how this team is playing lately! Perfectly stated!

spectre
01-19-2009, 03:34 PM
Not sure if this is the one you had but Fluffer posted this one:


http://albaaa.altervista.org/watch.php?id=201

Thanks, but that just keeps loading. Every site I've seen so far is linking to the kosar one...and they're all down.

ohara831
01-19-2009, 03:37 PM
Bell and Diaw are playing solidly. We need Crash to get going and we can really start to make something happen in this game. We need Crash to start scoring.

stent
01-19-2009, 03:38 PM
http://fr.justin.tv/lafouiiine

but in french

spectre
01-19-2009, 03:38 PM
Bell and Diaw are playing solidly. We need Crash to get going and we can really start to make something happen in this game. We need Crash to start scoring.

I just read that he blocked Tim Duncan's shot...so stuff like that helps too!

spectre
01-19-2009, 03:40 PM
http://fr.justin.tv/lafouiiine

but in french

Dude...savior twice in one game thread!

Hey, I kind of like listening in French even tho I only understand like one in ten words. They make more sense than most of the opposing teams announcers.

grantleew
01-19-2009, 03:41 PM
Man...the way were playing right now makes me not want to see another trade

Slam
01-19-2009, 03:43 PM
http://fr.justin.tv/lafouiiine

but in french
How crazy is it when guys living within hours of Charlotte have to watch a French stream to see their team play!!

krazyrumpshaker
01-19-2009, 03:44 PM
Man...the way were playing right now makes me not want to see another trade
i second that. well, unless it is a cant pass on situation.

stent
01-19-2009, 03:44 PM
Dude...savior twice in one game thread!

Hey, I kind of like listening in French even tho I only understand like one in ten words. They make more sense than most of the opposing teams announcers.

It's better for me obviusly.

bing!
01-19-2009, 03:49 PM
It's kinda neat when 3rd quarter goes our way.

bing!
01-19-2009, 03:50 PM
Gerald should take a break.

dnbman
01-19-2009, 03:53 PM
How crazy is it when guys living within hours of Charlotte have to watch a French stream to see their team play!!

Though, I always enjoy hearing people thousands of miles away talk about Wallace plays a la maison.

krazyrumpshaker
01-19-2009, 03:55 PM
not a very good shot by SS.

TattoodCatswife
01-19-2009, 03:55 PM
We could do this, LETS GO CATS

spectre
01-19-2009, 03:56 PM
Heh, and the way they say Boris' name makes you think they're having sex with him!

Love the link!

And I love that 3rd quarter! Great way to come out after halftime!

Is it me, or is Crash getting massacred underneath the rim?

ohara831
01-19-2009, 03:56 PM
Up by 5 after 3. Very solid 3rd. Now, with fthe way we have been playing late in games, we should have the confidence to finish strong and put this away!

jdub28
01-19-2009, 03:57 PM
I thought the move for Jrich was the best in franchise history, but it looks like the move to get rid of him has supplanted it.

If I could actually watch the games on tv instead of in French, Id be ecstatic.

The way were playing I hope Wallace is finally off the trading block, I guess Felts is still expendable, but only because we are pretty much sure to lose him this off season (maybe even just a 1st round pick from a lottery team and a vet PG).

Slam
01-19-2009, 03:57 PM
Can we do it?

Would have been nice to hit that shot to end the 3rd and take the mo into the 4th.

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 03:58 PM
The mighty Pistons are soo experienced and that may be what does us in.

bing!
01-19-2009, 04:00 PM
Our bench is shooting 2 out of 15 tonight, shallow.

Ghost Kat
01-19-2009, 04:00 PM
I fot got this game was play'd @ 2. Just checked the box score and we are looking pretty good. Damn shame all the links are down. THat french link sent me to the Hornets game.

But Good Luck Cats!!!!!

spectre
01-19-2009, 04:00 PM
Ok, they can get off the DEN/HOU game any time now...

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 04:01 PM
Momentum is shifting to the sorry ass Spurs. I want the Bobcats to win but inexperience and a weak bench might hurt us.

jdub28
01-19-2009, 04:02 PM
Charlotte Bobcats are Larry Browns new Detroit Pistons.


I think its more like the 76ers. That was the worse team Ive seen make it to the finals in my lifetime (the Nets were down there with them), they are, like us, a blue collar team of castoffs that just needed a little direction.

Wait I think I just described the Pistons as well:g:

ArcandiaS
01-19-2009, 04:04 PM
Ok, they can get off the DEN/HOU game any time now...


Yes I'm watching on Sport+, a french television, I guess it's this channel on the link, it's just that we call a multiplex, just turn on all games.
It's very good for us, french, to see the entire MLK day on television with pictures of all plays.

spectre
01-19-2009, 04:04 PM
Kat...they just went back to our game...and it's delayed, right now about 11 to go.

ohara831
01-19-2009, 04:05 PM
Our bench is being outscored 23 - 9 so far. That may hurt us in the end.

spectre
01-19-2009, 04:05 PM
Momentum is shifting to the sorry ass Spurs. I want the Bobcats to win but inexperience and a weak bench might hurt us.

We're playing our (sorry ass) bench and only lost 1 point.

All's good.

jdub28
01-19-2009, 04:07 PM
Maybe we should just foul whenever they get in the paint. They cant make any freethrows.

krazyrumpshaker
01-19-2009, 04:09 PM
just looked at the dallas boxscore. Hollins got almost 20 minutes and played pretty good. wonder why he didnt get any minutes here?

bing!
01-19-2009, 04:11 PM
Another close game, this is not good for my sickly heart.

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 04:14 PM
We're playing our (sorry ass) bench and only lost 1 point.

All's good.The Spurs bench does not seem to be as dangerous as in years past and that is good for us. Still, I know that we don't have the depth to hold our own against other teams starting line ups. If our bench played Spurs starters I am afraid they would take a double digit lead quickly. I may be wrong but until Morrison and Nazr show something more it will hurt us on some nights.

krazyrumpshaker
01-19-2009, 04:15 PM
wooow. nice move by diaw for the score.

spectre
01-19-2009, 04:17 PM
Guess what, our (sorry ass bench) did not have to contend with Spurs starters and thus we held our own against their (sorry ass) bench. Still, I would say that on most nights our bench will not hold their own. ;)

Right...but look at the +/- in the boxscore. Everyone of our starters a +...so it stands to reason that if we only lost 1 point when the bench was playing then we ought to be in good shape. ;)

Spurs are a good team tho...so we'll see.

bing!
01-19-2009, 04:18 PM
Their sorry ass bench - 30 pts, 11 - 23
Our sorry ass bench - 9 pts, 3 - 18

...

Ours is sorrier. :)

Ghost Kat
01-19-2009, 04:19 PM
Box score makes this seems like the game in portland....hope we can pull this one out

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 04:20 PM
Katy bar the door this one is done.

spectre
01-19-2009, 04:21 PM
Aw dammit...we let Ginobli drain 2 3s?

Slam
01-19-2009, 04:21 PM
Manu getting involved after doing nothing all afternoon.

Just what we DON'T need.

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 04:22 PM
As good as the cats are playing they are bad about giving up easy threes in close games. We somehow have to stop easy threes.

We need to set Raja up to hit a three.

Slam
01-19-2009, 04:22 PM
EO50 picking up his 5th is the other thing we didn't need!

bing!
01-19-2009, 04:24 PM
'tis a free throw festival, hack-a-Timmy, HACK-A-TIMMY.

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 04:25 PM
Can you imagine if AmMo was a threat right now and if we had DJ playing? I think we would beat the Spurs.

ohara831
01-19-2009, 04:26 PM
True. But Duncan is always just solid. Ginobali though can catch fire real quick and drop a dozen on you in 6 minutes. That man is dangerous.


Damn. I hate when I'm right. GINOBILI!!!! I bet PETA hates you. You must hate animals because you tried to kill some Bobcats today!

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 04:28 PM
Damn that Felton, he either helps us win or he hurts us and makes us lose.

bing!
01-19-2009, 04:29 PM
grrrr, Felton, one big GRRRRR.

teej
01-19-2009, 04:30 PM
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

krazyrumpshaker
01-19-2009, 04:30 PM
man, felton trying to be the hero twice and came up short both times. diaw had a good chance to make it though. overall, nice game today, just didnt have quite enough.

Bobcat4Ever
01-19-2009, 04:30 PM
Felton is a fucking ball hog

jdub28
01-19-2009, 04:31 PM
Why cant we ever just give the ball to crash and let him drive in and get souled LBJ style?

TattoodCats4life
01-19-2009, 04:32 PM
The FO better find a way to get felton out of here as soon as DJ is healthy.. He couldn't have worked harder for the first 46 min, then to lose it making bad choices in the last 2 is crap... We need a better PG who knows what to do in clutch situations against difficult teams... HERO MODE is not in the dictionary for a PG...they dont get to shoulder teams...

Good try to win it by Diaw.

TattoodCatswife
01-19-2009, 04:33 PM
Frickin Felton again thinking he can get through Duncan

bing!
01-19-2009, 04:33 PM
Tough noogies, we lost, better prepare for the onslaught of 'I hate Ray-Ray' threads. :)

dnbman
01-19-2009, 04:33 PM
Felton is a fucking ball hog

Felton took 11 shots and had nine assists. Just because he doesn't hit at the end of the game doesn't make him a ball hog.

Up until the last three minutes, I think he was 4-8. We just got out played at the end by a better team.

We double on Duncan and they have an open shooter: Ginobli. That's basically the difference in the ball game.

TattoodCats4life
01-19-2009, 04:34 PM
Tough noogies, we lost, better prepare for the onslaught of 'I hate Ray-Ray' threads. :)

I dont hate ray, I hate the choices he made... He shouldn't be allowed to play the last 5 minutes.

JamieMcNeill
01-19-2009, 04:35 PM
Felton is a fucking ball hog

Yo tough loss boys. This is one of those ones you got to learn from and come away positive about. They played hard but it just wasnt enough. We got to look to use this for the upcoming game.

Oh and btw can we skip the trashtalking felton bullshit. Ive been on the trade Felton bandwagon ever since DJ hit the court but as Bcats fan you got to realize that everygame he plays hard and is either THE man or THE reason we lost with some of you people. Give him a break its a team sport. Even if he does blow big moments if the team had played better we wouldnt have needed a last second shot to tie/win. so leave the boy alone.

TattoodCatswife
01-19-2009, 04:35 PM
Felton makes bad choices..not his fault though I guess..he had 3 coaches in 3 years so he has no idea what is what

ohara831
01-19-2009, 04:35 PM
Our bench is being outscored 23 - 9 so far. That may hurt us in the end.

Bench outscored 36 - 9. We lose by only 2. Go figure!

Read where thse with TV said Ray's last 2 shots were ill advised. Those with viewing capability, was that accurate?

spectre
01-19-2009, 04:36 PM
Felton took 11 shots and had nine assists. Just because he doesn't hit at the end of the game doesn't make him a ball hog.

Up until the last three minutes, I think he was 4-8. We just got out played at the end by a better team.

We double on Duncan and they have an open shooter: Ginobli. That's basically the difference in the ball game.

Nice try, but the knee jerkers are going to do what they do best.

We just didn't convert in stretches where we should have...I think Boris missed like 3 layups there at the end of the 4th. Also, we couldn't get a call in the paint, but we had plenty of opportunities regardless.

Absolutely great game by Bell.

DanielWheeler
01-19-2009, 04:37 PM
I am so proud of this team. Tough loss, but damn it's fun to watch the Bobcats again!

BobcatsAllDay
01-19-2009, 04:37 PM
Felton took 11 shots and had nine assists. Just because he doesn't hit at the end of the game doesn't make him a ball hog.

Up until the last three minutes, I think he was 4-8. We just got out played at the end by a better team.

We double on Duncan and they have an open shooter: Ginobli. That's basically the difference in the ball game.

Thank you, I was looking for a sensible post. If Boris hits the three we rejoice simple as that. I think we played a good not great game and came up short against the second best team out west. Wanted this win but it just wasn't for us today. I need Felton to hit that last jump shot and Boris to go up with more power other than that good game, tough loss.

spectre
01-19-2009, 04:37 PM
Yo tough loss boys. This is one of those ones you got to learn from and come away positive about. They played hard but it just wasnt enough. We got to look to use this for the upcoming game.

Oh and btw can we skip the trashtalking felton bullshit. Ive been on the trade Felton bandwagon ever since DJ hit the court but as Bcats fan you got to realize that everygame he plays hard and is either THE man or THE reason we lost with some of you people. Give him a break its a team sport. Even if he does blow big moments if the team had played better we wouldnt have needed a last second shot to tie/win. so leave the boy alone.

Very well said.

Oh, and my shirt failed me...4 and 1.

110oldeast
01-19-2009, 04:38 PM
It wasn't ballhogging or trying to be the hero. Find a new freaking script. So damn predictable on this board.

He gave the ball up and got it back with the clock around 7 seconds. He drove the lane against Ginobli and got contact, but Duncan came to help and blocked the shot.

Look at the replay. He drove the lane and both Crash and Mek came to the ball, clogging the lane, but not finding an open spot. If Mek was in an open position, he might have been able to try to dish it to him. But b/c he ran right to him, Duncan could easily get there for a block without the threat of Emeka getting the ball.

He managed the game well and had around 13 with 9 assists and maybe 2 or 3 TOs while doing a solid job on Parker. He wasn't trying to be the hero, but b/c that is the label given here, folks are always waiting for the chance to sing the refrain.

dnbman
01-19-2009, 04:38 PM
Nice try, but the knee jerkers are going to do what they do best.


I know. I keep forgetting that only the last 3-4 possessions matter in a ball game. Wallace and Diaw combining for 10-31 and our bench going 3-18 had nothing to do with it.

No. It was Felton taking a shot with a few seconds left on the shot clock that ruined it for us.

110oldeast
01-19-2009, 04:40 PM
THANK YOU. You give me some hope for this board.



I know. I keep forgetting that only the last 3-4 possessions matter in a ball game. Wallace and Diaw combining for 10-31 and our bench going 3-18 had nothing to do with it.

No. It was Felton taking a shot with a few seconds left on the shot clock that ruined it for us.

BobcatsAllDay
01-19-2009, 04:41 PM
Bench outscored 36 - 9. We lose by only 2. Go figure!

Read where thse with TV said Ray's last 2 shots were ill advised. Those with viewing capability, was that accurate?

The 1st shot was a good look but knowing Larry he wanted something going to the basket. Was he wide open? Yes. If he hits that shot we got a tie game. The Spurs did a good job denying Raja and I think Boris just cooled off from the 1st half so we didn't have a go-to guy at the end. The last shot was a broken play and we were actually lucky to get the 3 attempt all things considered. Did we have any timeouts left?

JamieMcNeill
01-19-2009, 04:41 PM
Very well said.

Oh, and my shirt failed me...4 and 1.

Thanks spec. I just get so tired of people looking at Felts shooting at the end of games as a reason to trade him. Ok so i think we should trade him but you know why? because we got the point of the future and Felts is playing overall out his mind right now. Sell high thats all im saying. address the need. but then again i think that any team especially us should be lucky to have such a talented guy.

spectre
01-19-2009, 04:42 PM
Bench outscored 36 - 9. We lose by only 2. Go figure!

Read where thse with TV said Ray's last 2 shots were ill advised. Those with viewing capability, was that accurate?

Every one of our starters was in the + category and only 2 of the starters were (Finley and Mason).

Look at the bench. Ammo...our scorer...took 1 shot in 11 minutes (miss). Nazr 0 of 4 and no telling how many offensive boards he gave up. Howard 1 of 7. Singletary 1 of 4.

Slam
01-19-2009, 04:44 PM
I know. I keep forgetting that only the last 3-4 possessions matter in a ball game.
They do when the game is close!!

krazyrumpshaker
01-19-2009, 04:44 PM
I have had to learn to control myself about Felton. For one, i am a duke fan so it took alot of me to accept him and be happy about a unc guy on my favorite team. But i have def. had to get over that one with this team. Anyway, i think felton has developed into a great player for us and now i would hate to lose him. i too jumped on the get rid of him bandwagon when i saw how good DJ could be, but i think dj is better and gets better with felton around. The main problem with felton to me is that there is noone on this team that is a go to guy when we need a shot late in the shot clock or end of the game. he is the best guy for that position. so when he does good he gets praise, when he does bad he gets hate. i think that once/if we ever get that go to guy the label may come off him and he will once again be just the pg. who actually has great defense and court awareness.

ohara831
01-19-2009, 04:46 PM
It just really hurts more to lose a game by 2 that you could have and should have won, as opposed to being beaten soundly by 10-12 pts. That is what leaves such a bitter taste in people's mouths. It just hurts. This was a game that, in the big scheme of things regarding the Playoffs, you look back on at the end of the year and say, man, just one or two games along the way made the difference.

BobcatsAllDay
01-19-2009, 04:49 PM
The main problem with felton to me is that there is noone on this team that is a go to guy when we need a shot late in the shot clock or end of the game. he is the best guy for that position. so when he does good he gets praise, when he does bad he gets hate. i think that once/if we ever get that go to guy the label may come off him and he will once again be just the pg. who actually has great defense and court awareness.

Exactly. Boris and Ray are the only guys on this team who can create period. Whether they are passing or shooting. Are they the best go-to guys? No. But they're all we have. Win some. Lose some.

Slam
01-19-2009, 04:50 PM
Quick question:

Diaw missed a reverse layup in the dying seconds - right?

Was it a reverese that he put back over his head with his right rather than going to his left?

BobcatsAllDay
01-19-2009, 04:51 PM
It just really hurts more to lose a game by 2 that you could have and should have won, as opposed to being beaten soundly by 10-12 pts. That is what leaves such a bitter taste in people's mouths. It just hurts. This was a game that, in the big scheme of things regarding the Playoffs, you look back on at the end of the year and say, man, just one or two games along the way made the difference.

That's the season for an 8th seed. Hopefully we're on the inside looking out at the end of the season.

spectre
01-19-2009, 04:55 PM
It just really hurts more to lose a game by 2 that you could have and should have won, as opposed to being beaten soundly by 10-12 pts. That is what leaves such a bitter taste in people's mouths. It just hurts. This was a game that, in the big scheme of things regarding the Playoffs, you look back on at the end of the year and say, man, just one or two games along the way made the difference.

Eh, it hurts now, but I'd rather compete the entire game like we did then have those big lapses like we did earlier in the season.

After an hour or two I think I'll actually feel pretty good about this game and be feeling pretty positive.

110oldeast
01-19-2009, 04:56 PM
BS. It's overdone. Has he made mistakes? Sure. Have other guys? Yep. The difference is this board just WAITS for him to make mistake, miss a shot, call a shot he does make lucky, or whatever else to fulfill the prophecy they have for him.

Prior to this year, he was constantly one of the top 4th quarter performers on the team, but people here either didn't pay attention or just ignored it.

Furthermore, it makes no sense how much credit folks give Augustin relative to actual accomplishment. The truth is we have 2 good young pgs on this team and one guy is getting a lot of credit for what folks imagine that he will be (their Chris Paul fantasy) and another guy gets no credit for what he ACTUALLY does.

I like both pgs and think that they could be a great combination. I think for Felton, a change of scenery would possibly be good b/c of a fanbase, nothing less, nothing more. There is a reason many other teams and fanbases are interested in the guy. They aren't caught up in trying to find a CP3 replacement the way Bobcats folks are. They can actually appreciate what he brings to the table.


I dont hate ray, I hate the choices he made... He shouldn't be allowed to play the last 5 minutes.

110oldeast
01-19-2009, 05:05 PM
I wouldn't call Felton's shots ill-advised, especially not the 2nd one (the first one would be closer). On the first one, I would agree that Larry likely wanted something going to the basket on the first shot. I ran back the tape and it looked like it was a good shot, BUT it looked like he might have been able to wait a second and see if Mek would have gotten position in the post or clearout to attack.

On the second one, he came down (did we have timeouts?) and the defense set a wall so he threw it out to Raja. Raja was a few feet behind the line and he threw it back to Ray. Ray had Ginobli on him and drove towards the basket as he should have. The problem was that Crash and Mek both ran towards the ball (likely to get in offensive rebounding position), which in turn allowed the lane to clog with 4 seconds, but not give Felton a passing outlet. He shot the floater over Ginobli, but Duncan came over and blocked the shot out to Diaw who just missed the jumper.

BobcatsAllDay
01-19-2009, 05:17 PM
The truth is we have 2 good young pgs on this team and one guy is getting a lot of credit for what folks imagine that he will be (their Chris Paul fantasy) and another guy gets no credit for what he ACTUALLY does.

Damn, that's pretty good stuff.

BobCatsFanInTx
01-19-2009, 06:17 PM
Exactly. Boris and Ray are the only guys on this team who can create period. Whether they are passing or shooting. Are they the best go-to guys? No. But they're all we have. Win some. Lose some.A dribble penetration and kick out to Bell would have been ideal.

TattoodCatswife
01-19-2009, 06:25 PM
A dribble penetration and kick out to Bell would have been ideal.

That totally would have been a fantastic idea

ziggy
01-19-2009, 07:11 PM
wow.

We were this close to getting our fourth straight win. Even though we lost, we had a damned good shot at the win and we battled the Spurs toe to toe on equal footing for 48 minutes.
I'm not big on moral victories, but after watching this game and the effort that these guys were giving, the solid defense and the crisp ball movement, I have a difficult time feeling bad about this loss.

Simply put... ILBIT

Robertpel9
01-19-2009, 09:25 PM
I am not the biggest Felton fan but he is not the reason we lost.

We lost primarily because our bench absolutely sucked, they really could not have played any worse.

We now have a decent starting unit that can compete with most of the league but we lack depth. Outside of DJ and Howard it is pretty much non existent. Until we address the depth issue it will be difficult to really move to contender status in big games

Still it is nice to be able to feel you have a shot going into most every game. The team is on the upswing, between now and October 2009 I expect the FO will address the depth issue

ziggy
01-19-2009, 09:27 PM
For those that didn't get a chance to see it, Here is Emeka's Teabagification of Tim Duncan tonight
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/bobcatsplanet/6e2f353c-77b7-4453-89fc-942d7086527.jpg

Keetch
01-19-2009, 09:50 PM
Great PIC! THAT was sweet.

TattoodCatswife
01-19-2009, 09:56 PM
Yeah that dunk was a fantastic dunk

BIGCatBobcat
01-19-2009, 10:02 PM
For those that didn't get a chance to see it, Here is Emeka's Teabagification of Tim Duncan tonight
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/bobcatsplanet/6e2f353c-77b7-4453-89fc-942d7086527.jpg

Yeah on the blog I called that humping Duncan's shoulder blade, more like the arm pit...but hey, loved it, loved the game hated the outcome.

Slam
01-20-2009, 09:50 AM
I didn't know until I got home and watched the game just how good a look Boris got at that 3pt buzzer beater at the end of the game that would have won it for us.

How sweet would it have been if that bad boy had dropped!

110oldeast
01-20-2009, 01:57 PM
If that were available, it would be nice. That said, with us being in the bonus, LB likely wanted a shot going to the basket (what he likely got on Ray for before). Furthermore, the other team plays defense and this was not a drawn up play. When Felton drove, Raja was covered and as I said, Gerald and Mek ran to the ball allowing Duncan to come over and help easily without the threat of a dish to Okafor, while also taking attention away from the contact drawn from Manu.

As one poster said, this was a game where DEPTH was the difference. It only makes it more ironic when discussing the getting rid of the one pg who has been able to durably navigate NBA seasons in this franchise's history.

As to Mek's T-bagging of Duncan, I LOVVVVVVED IT! I love when he finishes with a NASTINESS as opposed to and over fundamental layup that can get blocked or rim out. We might be finally getting all of that Hakeem the Dream workout out of Mek's system. Bring back the explosion!


A dribble penetration and kick out to Bell would have been ideal.