So sick of hearing about AMMO's Confidence

[Robertpel9]

It so so lame to keep hearing about Adam Morrison and his need to develop confidence. Everytime i watch a game on TV i want to puke when i hear this. Thank God I go to all the home games as the announcers must mention this every 5 minutes when he is in the game

Can we just dump this guy already and get it over with and try to get something for him. Outside of being an occasinal streaky shooter he offers no redeeming value that i can see. Can't play D for crap, runs around like a spaz and I really can't figure out what use he is serving.

I have watched every game since mid december and with one exception he contributed well.........nothing. Even the game he did well in it was mainly hitting wide open shots for the most part

By the time you are in the NBA i don't want to hear about his damn confidence. Let's get real and move on, the guy sucks. This team is getting too good to keep putting energy into he and May

[ammofan]

Okay listen. I was seriously just about to post something about this exact subject.

First i want you to watch this whole video. Observe what Adam does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgCw3BTNH2E&feature=PlayList&p=F1FBB48267AEFD99&index=9

Now tell me how his bad play isn't because of confidence. Did you see that like 40 foot three he TOOK, and made. He would never take that in the NBA. Not that i would encourage anyone to shoot that far away BUT, he just doesn't have any confidence to really take any of the shots he was taking in that video. His shot is still with him. People always say how he cant jump any more or whatever so that messes up his shot. No. His shot looks the same as it did in college.

Also, as I am writing this, I saw Adam make a shot like he made in the video I posted. If he can keep doing that, His CONFIDENCE will go up and he will keep shooting those shots and hopefully keep on making those shots. You get what I am saying?

[docend24]

Ammo is actually one of very few players I wouldn't refer to with even a bit negative nickname. I still hate those morons who booed him at home. Great for his confidence.

I just watching game against Nuggets and on defense he is tought to watch, especially his rotating, but he is trying.

[TattoodCats4life]

I think we've actually got a plan for Adam for next year... Everyone and their brother wants to clear cap for 2010, which wow, thats when the team option we picked up expires...I honestly think the FO was smart, we sign him the extra year to stroke his ego and show that we are invested in him, all the while knowing that expiring contracts for 2010 are going to be the thing everyone wants to trade around next year. We know NYK wants to play the game, so far they are set to be able to sign 2 maxes and or more likely a max and 2 near maxes. If we swapped them Ammo for someone and picks they probably have enough for LeBron, Wade and Bosh, then watch out as they rack up the rings...That's just my thoughts... YMMV

[Chef]

sheeeet, if trying real hard is all it took for 4 mil a year, sign me up.

[Robertpel9]

I would never boo a hometeam player or root against him at home or at the staduim, that is not a true fan

Having said that i could care less how hard he is trying or how his fragile confidence is. This is the NBA and he is supposed to be a professional athlete. "never confuse effort with results".

The guy is not NBA caliber - He needs to go. Until he is gone i will cheer and hope for the best with him but cmon, any objectively looking at him play can see he is not cut out for the league

Now can the announcers STFU about his confidence

[ohara831]

Yeah, I dont like booing our players at the games. Not cool. But I am to the point that when I see him in the game, I just think bad things will happen. It just aint pretty.

[Robertpel9]

man he sucks,

I am watching the game on DVR at it is the 9 minute mark in the 3rd and i just watched Morrison get abused on D like no other. Billups blew by him then he lost billups completely then tey kicked it to Martin and he hit a three with literally no one within 10 ft of him

PLEASE get rid of this guy or at least put him on the bench. I'd rather see another D leaguer get a chance than this guy just stink it up while he build his so called confidence

[Jeff41]

One of the worst players I have seen play for the Bobcats since the scrubs from the expansion year. It pained me to watch us play Portland this year and see Brandon Roy. I know Larry is thinking to himself "who in the ^#*! drafted this guy #3 overall!?!"

[Jeff41]

Ammo is actually one of very few players I wouldn't refer to with even a bit negative nickname. I still hate those morons who booed him at home. Great for his confidence.

I just watching game against Nuggets and on defense he is tought to watch, especially his rotating, but he is trying.

Yea but thank God for his huge outpouring of offense, that makes up for it. :rolleyes:

[docend24]

Yes I admitt I feel sorry for him, I hated him for his low FG% (and many shots) last month of his rookie year but since the knee I can't. I have to root for him, he didn't do any wrong, he just always has been a one side player relying on his offense, was thrown into the water from Day 1 of his rookie season and since that time things got into his head. And those things are sometimes worse than injured knee. And that knee injury came just when he was having really good pre-season (on a defensive play actually), he just had a bad luck. He is as classy as any other Bobcat, the pressure was/is sometimes just too muchon him, I can't hate him for that. Regaining confidence is not that easy as lose "7 pounds".

[Jeff41]

What "pressure" has Adam been under? He wasn't even penciled in as a starter when we drafted him, and it's not like we were competing for the Eastern Conference title back then. It's too much pressure to ask someone to provide solid bench minutes on a 3rd year expansion team?

[Robertpel9]

exactly, he sucks plain and simple

Even the glory clip posted earlier int he thread watch it again, int he NBA 1/3 of those shots get blocked and another third never even get to get taken

He sucks

[Shrimpy_Jackson]

I'm not sick of hearing about his confidence, because his confidence is the fucking problem. You don't lead the nation in ppg in college without at least some talent and without even looking at the clips Ammofan posted I can remember how often that shot of his went down, he could throw it up from anywhere and it just hit the bottom of the net.... because he was.... CONFIDENT! Remember that T'wolves game his rookie year? You could tell he was so into it and his confidence was sky high, he single handedly won us that game. The guys emotional, he hasn't been in a good rhythm he missed an entire year due to a freak injury. He knows where he was drafted but if you don't have that swagger then you won't be as ballsy which is what made him such a good player in the first place. He's just not ballsy anymore and doesn't seem to have that fire. People have suggested a sports psychologist and I think it's a good idea. With his shot he should be able to score 12-15ppg at least. Now there's not really anything anyone can do about it, but maybe with a little time and Brown encouraging him he'll start knocking some shots down that he's capable of.

[bing!]

His performance as of late warrants no one's apologetic outbursts, he was given plenty of chances this season to prove his worth, which he did not. This has nothing to do with confidence, the skillset he possesses, the ability to play or lack thereof, he can provide this team with mediocre productivity only if the entire offensive scheme revolves around him and if he's having a hot hand, but that's something the Bobcats can't afford to go with, especially now when they're in the hunt for that last berth.

I'm sure he can contribute elsewhere, but as for his stint in Charlotte, he's given the Cats a whole lot of 'nothing', the few games where he lit it up are vastly offset by a number of games wherein he blew.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Yes I admitt I feel sorry for him, I hated him for his low FG% (and many shots) last month of his rookie year but since the knee I can't. I have to root for him, he didn't do any wrong, he just always has been a one side player relying on his offense, was thrown into the water from Day 1 of his rookie season and since that time things got into his head. And those things are sometimes worse than injured knee. And that knee injury came just when he was having really good pre-season (on a defensive play actually), he just had a bad luck. He is as classy as any other Bobcat, the pressure was/is sometimes just too muchon him, I can't hate him for that. Regaining confidence is not that easy as lose "7 pounds".Like any job, the person told to perform the task necessary to do that job can not come in all fragile emotionally and expect to perform up to task. When a person is fragile they lose their job. I do agree that AmMo is soft and emotionally weak at this time. How long should the Bobcats have patience in him? If this were the music industry his label would have dropped him by now. The guy is a multi millionaire and he is not performing to those standards. This guy needs to get it together, be a man and play the way he IS capable of. He will NEVER be a good let alone great defensive player but he does have the potential to score in double figures every night.

With that said, these Bobcats can't afford to let his sorry ass stink it up week in and week out. Unfortunately nobody wants our teams dead weight so our team is at least stuck with him til the end of the year.

I understand that AmMo is coming off a serious knee surgery but a lot of players have and they were not near as emotionally fragile as AmMo. It is time that AmMo start playing the way he is paid to play. No more excuses. If the Bobcats insist on keeping him then they better get a shrink to work with him.

AmMo needs to get his mind right and play confident. If for some reason his knee has kept him from performing up to task, he can retire a rich man and never look back.

[spectre]

Just looking thru the trade checker to see if there was a middling bad contract we can take just to dump Ammo's last year for someone who might also actually contribute.

Sadly, about the best I could come up with is either May/Ammo for Jaric (Memphis) or May/Ammo for Jeffries. I do think LB likes Jefferies, and he could cover better for Crash than Jaric would. It's possible we also might get some small incentive to help clear some cap.

Picking up his option was just plain STUPID.

[spectre]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3457~1024~2776~3016&teams=30~30~11~11&te=&cash=

Ammo/May for Tinsley/Rush

Wonder if IND would do that?

[SirBobcat]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=250~2776~3016&teams=30~11~11&te=&cash=

I like this one better.

[Slam]

Ammo for Frye and some cash.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3016~2754&teams=22~30&te=&cash=

Send Ammo home - it might help his confidence?

McUseless is pretty much done so we need some bench production from our bigs outside of Howard.

Frye isn't getting any burn in Portland.

LB had a good relationship with Frye at NY.

[spectre]

Ammo for Frye and some cash.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3016~2754&teams=22~30&te=&cash=

Send Ammo home - it might help his confidence?

McUseless is pretty much done so we need some bench production from our bigs outside of Howard.

Frye isn't getting any burn in Portland.

LB had a good relationship with Frye at NY.

I wish. I just don't think Ammo has ANY value and most likely we're going to have to take back a worse deal just to move him.

That's assuming we are determined to get in the playoffs this year (not saying any of my ideas would do that). Next year at this time we can probably move him as an expiring, and that's probably the smartest thing to do.

We could probably combine him with Felton and send him to OKC for Watson and something...but I swear I'd hate giving up an asset just to move him.

[bing!]

Coach Larry Brown said before the Blazers game that Morrison shows all the signs of a player who’s lost his confidence. Asked to elaborate, Brown said Morrison doesn’t play in games like he does in practice.

Brown has been scrimmaging non-starters (which Morrison was until Wallace was hurt) in 4-on-4 games at practice. I’ve watched those games and Morrison is feisty, loud and attacking offensively. He argues with coaches about fouls called and banters with Juwan Howard about how he’s being guarded.

Then he’s inserted in games, and Morrison seems to sink back into that shell of self-doubt. He passes up open shots and looks self-conscious and indecisive on defense.

--the rest of the article-- (http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2009/01/some-thoughts-postnuggets-game.html)

I'd really want to know what's bugging him because the above mentioned is beyond me. Trying hard in practice just to stink the place up when lights go on. Strange.

[Shrimpy_Jackson]

To bring it all 'round full circle again.... it's because he has no self confidence!!! He needs to get in a good groove and take a good leap and see how things go. He's an unathletic white guy playing in a league of trees that can leap 18.6 feet in the air. Like last night, he catches the ball underneath the basket, instead of going up with it he hesitates, somehow moves backwards 5 feet and lofts up an airball. He's afraid he's going to get embarassed and lose his job. So he's trying to do enough to get by and not fuck up, which in turn is causing him to fuck up. He's just stuck in a rut, he's only 24. Get him a shrink!

[dnbman]

Okay listen. I was seriously just about to post something about this exact subject.

First i want you to watch this whole video. Observe what Adam does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgCw3BTNH2E&feature=PlayList&p=F1FBB48267AEFD99&index=9

Now tell me how his bad play isn't because of confidence. Did you see that like 40 foot three he TOOK, and made. He would never take that in the NBA. Not that i would encourage anyone to shoot that far away BUT, he just doesn't have any confidence to really take any of the shots he was taking in that video. His shot is still with him. People always say how he cant jump any more or whatever so that messes up his shot. No. His shot looks the same as it did in college.

Also, as I am writing this, I saw Adam make a shot like he made in the video I posted. If he can keep doing that, His CONFIDENCE will go up and he will keep shooting those shots and hopefully keep on making those shots. You get what I am saying?

You could make this exact same post about any number of guys in the league right now. (JJ Redick comes to mind, who seems to have a ceiling of Steve Kerr at the moment.) Just because a player was sick in college doesn't mean he's going to be effective in the pros. Remember that Morrison could have some trouble one night and then rebuild his confidence against a player who was already planning to take an accounting job the next year. In the NBA, he never has marginal competition.

I'm not saying Ammo is done. However, I have serious doubts after watching him miss shots like a fairly easy under the basket layup last night. You build your confidence by making the regular shots, not occasionally making circus shots with time expiring.

I'd love to see Ammo become a great player on ANY team. However, he's the one who is going to have to dig deep and man-up. The NBA isn't a place for coddling. Even if the fans are behind him, the opposition is going to destroy him if he doesn't believe in himself.

[dnbman]

--the rest of the article-- (http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2009/01/some-thoughts-postnuggets-game.html)

I'd really want to know what's bugging him because the above mentioned is beyond me. Trying hard in practice just to stink the place up when lights go on. Strange.

On a side note, Wallace is gangsta:


• Wallace told Brown he didn’t want Los Angeles Lakers center Andrew Bynum suspended for the foul that hospitalized Wallace with a collapsed lung and broken rib. So Wallace apparently thought the flagrant foul-1 assessed was sufficient.

Wallace is going to take care of this Alabama style.

In a serious note, I love that Wallace sees this as a war, with his injury just being a result of hard play rather than cheap shots. Wallace is the man.

[Shrimpy_Jackson]

Whoa whoa whoa! There's no need to bring Redick into this and his Steve Kerr ceiling is the best I expect from a guy that's undersized and can only shoot jumpers. I'm a massive Duke fan but I never thought he'd turn into anything but a 3 point specialist in the NBA. It's not like he was making Jordanesque moves at Duke either. Morrison could score in so many ways it was ridiculous. I'm not trying to be an Ammo homer or anything, but look at it this way. He was so hyped coming out of a poor draft, the next larry bird all that stuff. Put yourself in his shoes, he makes a commercial with a list of nicknames and all that shit. How do you think he feels about it now? Probably embarassed and disappointed in himself that he didn't live up to it. Forget about the way he moves or plays for a second, and think about all the emotions he's going through. Same with May, now he's a fat ass who has knee problems. Maybe he's doing it all to himself, but what if he's really busting his ass but just can't get the results? He probably feels like shit. I know they're NBA players and they got money and they play a game for a living, but they're still human beings and it seems like people forget about this alot. Put yourself in their shoes and look at it from that perspective.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

What was exactly wrong with Steve Kerr? I thought he was pretty good.

[TattoodCats4life]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3457~1024~2776~3016&teams=30~30~11~11&te=&cash (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3457%7E1024%7E2776%7E3016&teams=30%7E30%7E11%7E11&te=&cash)=

Ammo/May for Tinsley/Rush

Wonder if IND would do that?

I'd bet they would, they dont want to pay Tinsley anymore...so im sure they'd jump at any resonably cheaper option.

[dnbman]

What was exactly wrong with Steve Kerr? I thought he was pretty good.

Nothing is wrong with Steve Kerr.

I think the point is being missed here.

A video of a guy making sick shots in college was posted to prove that a guy could make sick shots in college. My point was more about the logic of the argument and the evidence than whether Ammo could be good or not.

Redick was absolutely deadly anywhere in the offensive side of the court. One might assume that he would be a three point assassin in the NBA, even with limited ability. However, he has turned into a bench player who averages 5 points a game. The point about Kerr was not to dis Kerr but to point out that he is the best we can expect for a player who has You Tube videos of himself hitting sick outside shots in college.

Maybe I just should have said that Morrison won't be nearly as good in the NBA as he was in college. Confidence may have something to do with it, but the nightly competition he faces has much more to do with it.