Chances of another trade?

[LB4President]

Do you think we will actually make a deal before the deadline? Names like Jared Jeffries and John Salmons are out there. Personally I still want to get rid of Felton. He has improved tremendously, but either we have to overpay him this summer to keep him or he is gonna sink back to his old self again. He is just too streaky. Plus I am always uneasy of players who perform exceptionally well towards the end of their contract year.

What do you think is gonna happen?

[SirBobcat]

I think it's highly likely that another deal(s) will be made before the deadline. If the Bobcats continue to play the way they are now, then simply put they are not contenders for the playoffs, so make moves with the future in mind.

[TattoodCats4life]

There are rumors that Orlando may have interest in Felton to maintain their run to the top 3 in the East.

I've put together something, but most likely any trade we'd make with them would look nothing like this :)

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3445~3024~1913~2753&teams=30~30~30~19&te=&cash=

[coordinator0]

I've got one with Orlando...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2173~2992~2753&teams=30~19~19&te=&cash=

Keep the Frenchies rolling in...

[JamieMcNeill]

I've got one with Orlando...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2173~2992~2753&teams=30~19~19&te=&cash=

Keep the Frenchies rolling in...
WAYYYY too much for Pietrus

[Chef]

here's your trade. magic are desperate. they are staring at the EC finals if they have a point guard.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~568~1998~3445~2173&teams=19~19~30~30~30&te=&cash=

[TattoodCats4life]

here's your trade. magic are desperate. they are staring at the EC finals if they have a point guard.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~568~1998~3445~2173&teams=19~19~30~30~30&te=&cash= (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753%7E568%7E1998%7E3445%7E217 3&teams=19%7E19%7E30%7E30%7E30&te=&cash=)

I think we are overestimating the value of Felton and/or how desperate they are...but then again, Earl Watson and Tinsley have crept into the discussions about Orlando too, so that screams desperate.

I'd be VERY pissed at our FO if they didnt at least TRY to get this to fly tho:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~3016~3445~862~1913&teams=19~19~30~30~30&te=&cash=

Just throwing shit to see if something sticks ;)

[SWedd523]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3445~2173~3024~1913~2753~2776~ 3016&teams=30~30~30~30~19~19~19&te=&cash=


This Mike Wilks guy sure seems popular!

[TattoodCats4life]

Wilks works because he has experience, but isn't going to care about not starting behind DJ, and he's cheap :)

[TattoodCatswife]

Yeah there totally will be another trade before the deadline, no doubt in my mind about it

[etothet]

If I were Raymond, I'd be very excited about the possibility.

[TattoodCats4life]

If we trade Felton to Orlando, it will be the fastest any Bobcat got (or got that close to) a ring.

[BETCATS]

If we trade Felton to Orlando, it will be the fastest any Bobcat got (or got that close to) a ring.


Steve Smith and Eddie House both have won chips and have the big ass rings to prove.

[Weezy21]

okay theres a good chance this will definitly not happen but here it goes...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=45~1995~1998~3445~2173~2761~20 06~429~2992~2753~2776~3016&teams=6~30~6~30~6~19~30~19~19~6~6~6&te=&cash=

Bobcats get- Josh Howard, Courtney Lee, Kieth Bogans

Magic get- Jason Kidd, Gerald Green, Shannon Brown, cash compensation from dallas and charlotte

Dallas gets- May, Morrison, Felton, Mickael Pietrus, Brian Cook, Tony Battie

Here me out on this one...

Why its good for the Cats- we get a great SF filler while wallace is out in Howard, lee would be a great boost off the bench, and bgans could be our vet PG....plus we get rid of may an morrison :biggrin:

Why its good for Magic- they need a PG they can count on in the playoffs, so kidd would be great cuz all they need is a one year rental, green an shannon woud be nice off the bench...best of all, they will be sitting very pretty come the offseason with 3 expirings....they could use that to resign hedu, an still sign somebody like ben gordan, sheed, AI, artest, odom, marion, al harrington, boozer, or korver

Why its good for Mavs- they get their PG in felton, get rid of howard, get a good player in pietrus and also get 3 expirings

Okay now u guys can rip my deal to shreds...readyyyyyy GO

[BETCATS]

okay theres a good chance this will definitly not happen but here it goes...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=45~1995~1998~3445~2173~2761~20 06~429~2992~2753~2776~3016&teams=6~30~6~30~6~19~30~19~19~6~6~6&te=&cash= (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=45%7E1995%7E1998%7E3445%7E2173 %7E2761%7E2006%7E429%7E2992%7E2753%7E2776%7E3016&teams=6%7E30%7E6%7E30%7E6%7E19%7E30%7E19%7E19%7E6% 7E6%7E6&te=&cash=)

Bobcats get- Josh Howard, Courtney Lee, Kieth Bogans

Magic get- Jason Kidd, Gerald Green, Shannon Brown, cash compensation from dallas and charlotte

Dallas gets- May, Morrison, Felton, Mickael Pietrus, Brian Cook, Tony Battie

Here me out on this one...

Why its good for the Cats- we get a great SF filler while wallace is out in Howard, lee would be a great boost off the bench, and bgans could be our vet PG....plus we get rid of may an morrison :biggrin:

Why its good for Magic- they need a PG they can count on in the playoffs, so kidd would be great cuz all they need is a one year rental, green an shannon woud be nice off the bench...best of all, they will be sitting very pretty come the offseason with 3 expirings....they could use that to resign hedu, an still sign somebody like ben gordan, sheed, AI, artest, odom, marion, al harrington, boozer, or korver

Why its good for Mavs- they get their PG in felton, get rid of howard, get a good player in pietrus and also get 3 expirings

Okay now u guys can rip my deal to shreds...readyyyyyy GO

The return of Keith Bogans?

Is the world ready?

[BETCATS]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2992~2753~568~3417~2754~2015~3 004&teams=22~22~22~30~30~30~30&te=&cash=

[Weezy21]

LB will put him in his place

[BETCATS]

LB will put him in his place

I actually like Keith, but i think he was happy in Orlando before we took him in the expansion draft and was even happier once he returned their. Its like being with a women who is always in love with your older, more attractive brother.

[davcbow]

I kinda like this scenario in a trade...

http://layupdrill.com/2009/02/nba-trade-deadline-update-february-4/



Best Trade Option - To Golden State in a multi-player deal along with Shannon Brown for Anthony Randolph, Marcus Williams, and Brandan Wright. Golden State remains interested in Felton, and just as interested in moving players that will likely not re-sign with the club. The Bobcats, meanwhile, get two players in Wright and Randolph that could potentially blossom under coach Larry Brown.

[BETCATS]

I kinda like this scenario in a trade...

http://layupdrill.com/2009/02/nba-trade-deadline-update-february-4/


Yeah. Marcus Williams? I thought he was good. Why doesnt he ever get playtime?

[ALuhrs704]

Yeah. Marcus Williams? I thought he was good. Why doesnt he ever get playtime?

Mainly because him and nelson dont get along. Im a big uconn fan so ive been following marcus williams, and he was good in NJ behind kidd and was ready to take that starting role but got hurt then they made that trade. GS thought that he would be able to be their starter but nelson didnt like him and vise versa so he has been seeking a trade. He would be GREAT coming off the bench, much better then Sean Singletery because he is bigger, and is a very skilled player. As long as larry could teach him. Plus if we got wright and randolph i would be extremely pleased.

[coordinator0]

I think a trade with Orlando is now out of the question (even though it wasn't very possible before) with the Magic trading Bogans for T. Lue.

[RixFan16]

How about this trade. I think it would work out well for us:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~2776~568~3016~3416~3204~2 754~454~3025&teams=22~22~22~22~30~30~30~30~30&te=&cash=

[TattoodCatswife]

I think a trade with Orlando is now out of the question (even though it wasn't very possible before) with the Magic trading Bogans for T. Lue.

Yeah, I just read that too...they now have their PG

[Ghost Kat]

There are rumors that Orlando may have interest in Felton to maintain their run to the top 3 in the East.

I've put together something, but most likely any trade we'd make with them would look nothing like this :)

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3445~3024~1913~2753&teams=30~30~30~19&te=&cash=


I think everyone missed the irony of having both Reddick and Morrison on the same team.

[ALuhrs704]

I think everyone missed the irony of having both Reddick and Morrison on the same team.


If that actually happened i'd probably throw up in my mouth, swallow it, then throw up again.

[mrtarheel]

I think maybe we could trade with GS for something like this.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=165~3455~3039~2753~568&teams=30~30~30~9~9&te=&cash=

The wouldn't need Crawford now that Ellis is back and they still have Captain Jack. Maggette will get them more role players to replace what they loose in this trade. If we could get lucky, maybe they want players gone off the team and we could get this

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=165~3455~3039~3242~2753~2776~5 68&teams=30~30~30~30~9~9~9&te=&cash=

[BRNC]

You have to think about the guys Nelson is not playing...Crawford is playing so he's a "Nelson guy" and I doubt he'd want him traded...M. Williams and one of the bigs he is not playing is probably the best we'd get from GW...

[WarioVsMooChicken]

If that actually happened i'd probably throw up in my mouth, swallow it, then throw up again.


With 3 complete busts on the team. I'm sure the odds would be in our favor for atleast one to pan out =o

[LB4President]

I like the trade for Radmanovic. No way Morrison or Brown were in our long term plans. Radmanovic won't make the same impact that Diaw or Bell will, but now we have a roster of guys who have proved that they can play in the NBA. I know some people will groan about his contract, but take a look at Morrison's. Radmanovic isn't our savior but I think he can contribute. Especially with Wallace out for another week and a half.

But now I can't help but feel the roster has gone from too many wings to too many bigs. We have a lot of money invested in Okafor, Diaw, Wallace, Diop, Nazr, and now Radmanovic. We all know LB wants to move Nazr, but does any one else think that this is just the first part of another deal. Possibley sending Wallace, Nazr, or Radmanovic elsewhere for another two?

[dnbman]

I know NO is highly unlikely to do this until Paul returns, but what about something like Nazr for Antonio Daniels?

Antonio isn't doing much for New Orleans. Nazr would give them another half court center that has some range for the playoffs.

Meanwhile, Antonio is a Snow type guard that Brown will probably appreciate.

[amour217]

Meanwhile, Antonio is a Snow type guard that Brown will probably appreciate.

Informer....somethingsomethingsomethingsomething blame...a licky boom-boom down

[spectre]

Just like most of you guys I haven't seen much of Rad at all...but isn't he really a long 3 vs. a 4?

I think we stand pat now. It seems we have a lot of bigs, but against a lot of teams we need those bigs.

5 - Diop/Nazr
5/4 - Mek
4 - Howard
4/3 - Diaw
3/4 - Crash/Rad

That actually looks pretty balanced to me.

[LB4President]

I am worried about the backcourt. Felton, Augustine, and Bell are the only servicable players in our backcourt. Unless Brown made this move thinking that Singletary or Cartier are going to step it up. Both seem unlikely to do so in my opinion.

I watch San Antonio alot and with the emergence of Hill and Mason I think we could steal Finley from them by offering May's expiring contract. He is smart, can shoot, defend, and provide veteran leadership. I think that would be a solid investment. If it doesn't work he only has one year left on his contract. Don't know if the Spurs would go for it. I know they want frontcourt help, but I don't think May is what they had in mind.

Anyway a trade like that would be something I would keep an eye out for. One where we again lose players who can't or don't contribute and gain another piece to the puzzle.

[spectre]

^Now that is a legitimate concern. Losing S Brown is going to hurt just from a "bodies" standpoint.

[Slam]

Just like most of you guys I haven't seen much of Rad at all...but isn't he really a long 3 vs. a 4?

I think we stand pat now. It seems we have a lot of bigs, but against a lot of teams we need those bigs.

5 - Diop/Nazr
5/4 - Mek
4 - Howard
4/3 - Diaw
3/4 - Crash/Rad

That actually looks pretty balanced to me.
I think we are missing that lock down guy in the 2nd unit that you and I have been craving for a couple of years. Bell give us what we need in the 1st unit, but I'd like someone in the 2nd unit that can do the same sort of thing.

[ohara831]

I am worried about the backcourt. Felton, Augustine, and Bell are the only servicable players in our backcourt. Unless Brown made this move thinking that Singletary or Cartier are going to step it up. Both seem unlikely to do so in my opinion.

I watch San Antonio alot and with the emergence of Hill and Mason I think we could steal Finley from them by offering May's expiring contract. He is smart, can shoot, defend, and provide veteran leadership. I think that would be a solid investment. If it doesn't work he only has one year left on his contract. Don't know if the Spurs would go for it. I know they want frontcourt help, but I don't think May is what they had in mind.

Anyway a trade like that would be something I would keep an eye out for. One where we again lose players who can't or don't contribute and gain another piece to the puzzle.


Good points made. But I dont see the Spurs giving up Finley. His playoff experience and his ability to his the 3 makes him valuable as they make a Playoff run.

[TattoodCats4life]

Lots of moving and shaking the first year with larry, nothing new honestly... I foresee us at least moving May's expiring...especially now that we have a second, younger than Juwan, big who can start if we needed at either the 3 or 4... I see us moving May for a 2 being we sent away a 2 and 3 for a 4/3. We may move felton, I dont know, but I know we'll try to move Narz and try to move May... otherwise we're pretty good honestly.

[spectre]

I think we are missing that lock down guy in the 2nd unit that you and I have been craving for a couple of years. Bell give us what we need in the 1st unit, but I'd like someone in the 2nd unit that can do the same sort of thing.

I absolutely agree, my post was directed more at the 3/4/5.

May is about the only thing left to trade and the moves we've made have made him irrelevant. Too bad McCants isn't the guy you're talking about as I think we could do that straight up.

Do you see any way we can use May to shore up the 2 spot? Do you think we go D League again? Would that be enough depth for a team that (realistically or no) still has playoff aspirations?

[ohara831]

Let me ask you guys who will know. What is the deal with Tinsley and Indiana? He's a solid PG, and a pretty good scorer, but I know he has issues with Indiana. Is he a locker room poison or something? Or is this between he and management?

I've read over and over how Indiana wants to move him. If he's not a locker room poison guy, can we get a deal? I know we've talked of trading Felton, and maybe combining that with either May or possibly even Nazr if lucky. What if we could coax them into also throwing in someone we wanted last draft - like Hibbert? What about something like: Felton and Nazr for Tinsley and Hibbert? I mean talent wise, Tinsley is a good player, but I dont know about his character. But he can play the PG role and allow DJ to grow into the job. And I think Hibbert will be a vast improvement over Nazr and give us another talented big. Just a thought. Mostly just inquiring about the whole deal with Tinsley and why such a player has basically been deactivated by Indiana. Can you give me some insight?

[docend24]

Is it just me considering that Cartier will see some playing time at SG instead of SF at least until some guardish addition (from NBDL probably)?

[spectre]

Check out this little gem in Bonnell's latest blog:


THAT POINT-GUARD ISSUE: So is Raymond Felton or D.J. Augustin the better point guard going forward? One or the other is too expensive to retain. A shocker: The Bobcats could move Augustin to retain Felton.

Don't know if I buy that as DJ is going to be on a rookie scale for the next few seasons.

[Slam]

I absolutely agree, my post was directed more at the 3/4/5.

May is about the only thing left to trade and the moves we've made have made him irrelevant. Too bad McCants isn't the guy you're talking about as I think we could do that straight up.

Do you see any way we can use May to shore up the 2 spot? Do you think we go D League again? Would that be enough depth for a team that (realistically or no) still has playoff aspirations?
I don't know man, where is the incentive for another team to take on McMay considering LB wont even play him - unless they have a contract they want to get rid of, and there isn't a lot of long term $2 mil SG's kicking around.

If we can add Nazzy it might help, but that would mean getting a long, long term contract back to offset Nazzy's.

The other problem, and this is HUGE, is that we are about to have 7 guys on our roster with trade restrictions, which doesn't allow for much creativity at all.

I'd LOVE to work something in a three or four way that moves our McMay and Nazzy and lands us Larry Hughes.

I think that would be perfect.

Going to have to work the trade machine pretty hard on Monday when I am back in the office.

[Slam]

Let me ask you guys who will know. What is the deal with Tinsley and Indiana? He's a solid PG, and a pretty good scorer, but I know he has issues with Indiana. Is he a locker room poison or something? Or is this between he and management?

I've read over and over how Indiana wants to move him. If he's not a locker room poison guy, can we get a deal? I know we've talked of trading Felton, and maybe combining that with either May or possibly even Nazr if lucky. What if we could coax them into also throwing in someone we wanted last draft - like Hibbert? What about something like: Felton and Nazr for Tinsley and Hibbert? I mean talent wise, Tinsley is a good player, but I dont know about his character. But he can play the PG role and allow DJ to grow into the job. And I think Hibbert will be a vast improvement over Nazr and give us another talented big. Just a thought. Mostly just inquiring about the whole deal with Tinsley and why such a player has basically been deactivated by Indiana. Can you give me some insight?
Mate, I wouldn't know Tinsley if I pooped on him, but all I do know is what I read and all I read is that he is bad news.

When I think of him I think of McMinus V.2

[spectre]

We do have an extra roster spot, so we might be able to use that with May (or even Nazr) in a 3 way bigger deal.

Wouldn't it be nice to pull a steal here right before the deadline.

[Slam]

Check out this little gem in Bonnell's latest blog:

Don't know if I buy that as DJ is going to be on a rookie scale for the next few seasons.
Considering we are so weak at the guard spot right now it would have to be a ball tearing offer for us to move either of those two right now IMO.

[TattoodCats4life]

May, Felton, Nazr -> Vet PG, 2 guard, project of some sort?

[TattoodCats4life]

Also, thinking about it, i don't think we would have traded away our only viable 2 guard backup without having something almost done coming out...the next 36-48 hours are worth paying careful attention to...I really feel we're not done... When we're done I wouldn't be shocked if GW and Meka are the only pre-larry cats left... Maybe Nazr due to his contract, and Felton due to his recent better play... but at most 4 pre-larry cats...

[davcbow]

Something may be going on but we only have 5 pre LB cats left as it is.... Out of those Id like to move 2 of them (May and Nazr) but it may take Felts too to make it happen which I wish there ws a way we could keep Felts....:cool:

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Something may be going on but we only have 5 pre LB cats left as it is.... Out of those Id like to move 2 of them (May and Nazr) but it may take Felts too to make it happen which I wish there ws a way we could keep Felts....:cool:

Only 5?

...Seriously? o.o

[TattoodCats4life]

Only 5?

...Seriously? o.o

May, Felton, Wallace, Okafor, Nazr... 5...5 pre larry bobcats...ah, ah, ah...lets count again... ah ah ah ah

[spectre]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2776~568~1034~406&teams=15~15~30~30&te=&cash=

Nazr/May/2nd for Bell/Jones

It might be reaching to think they'll take on Nazr's deal, but Bell has a 3 year deal as well (tho at half the cost).

May for Bell plus their 2nd (curr. 45th) would work too.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2776~741~3028&teams=4~30~30&te=&cash=

May for Sefolosha/Ruffin

More breathing room under the cap this year for the Bulls plus they lose a year of salary (1.7 million).

[GoBobs]

I kinda of like the idea of Mek and radman or nazi for Amare. Even better if we could do Mek Radman and Nazi for Amare. I don't know how big Amare's contract is without looking. The only thing that scares me is his knees and that operation that caused him to miss just over a year. We just haven't seen anyone have a nice 10-15 year career after the surgery. But that would give us an extremly fast lineup for changing ends.

Amare
Diaw
Wallace
Bell
Felton

DJ off the bench

[LB4President]

I love knowing that we have Mek to hold down the fort defensively. I wouldn't give him up for Amare. Amare can score, but he doesn't erase anyones mistakes or make them better. Richardson could score, but he was the same situation. I would be more interested in Shaq because of his defensive ability and atitude.

I am way more interested in Rasheed Wallace. He can still be a devasting big man. He loves Larry Brown. I don't know what Detroit wants in return because they are trading both an expiring contract and a very talented player. Anyone think of an actually feasible scenario where we score Sheed without giving up Diaw, Mek, or DJ (which I assume are our most prized players)?

[winthropbobcat]

WOuldn't this be nice?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727~2776~568~1016&teams=30~21~21~21&te=&cash=

[TattoodCatswife]

WOuldn't this be nice?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727~2776~568~1016&teams=30~21~21~21&te=&cash=

We can't trade Vlad with other players for 60 days

[BETCATS]

We can't trade Vlad with other players for 60 days

not true, he was traded alone

[TattoodCatswife]

not true, he was traded alone

I thought we can't trade players in combination for 60 days...

[JamieMcNeill]

I thought we can't trade players in combination for 60 days...
if you acquire a combo of players
which we didnt

Edit: actually diop was like that so now im not sure :(

[TattoodCats4life]

not true, he was traded alone

I'm looking at this and find it odd, We did a 2 for 1 for Diop and he has the trade/claim restriction where he cant be traded in combination for 60 days. "If a team is over the cap and receives a player in trade or claims a player off waivers that player cannot be traded in combination with another player for 2 months (60 days)"

Yet Vlad doesn't actually have any trade restrictions at all, including the "no require" which I know still stands, as "duh" we can't trade him back to the lakers.

I just don't get how it works and what makes it set the trade restrictions or whatever...

[ohara831]

I think that if we lose the next couple games prior to the All Star break, then LB signs off on another trade. Likely for a player he likes and a draft pick(s). He will continue the reshaping of the team with an eye towards next season.

[TattoodCatswife]

I think that if we lose the next couple games prior to the All Star break, then LB signs off on another trade. Likely for a player he likes and a draft pick(s). He will continue the reshaping of the team with an eye towards next season.

I think we don't have to lose the next couple games prior to All Star break for a trade to happen, I think another trade is DEFINITELY going to happen no matter what. What made me so sure of that is not only was MJ at the Heat game tonight but Johnson was there as well and that man is NEVER at any of our games. You know those two were watching us play and chatting it up on the sidelines on who is to go now and who for..I really feel it is totally inevitable.

[ohara831]

I think we don't have to lose the next couple games prior to All Star break for a trade to happen, I think another trade is DEFINITELY going to happen no matter what. What made me so sure of that is not only was MJ at the Heat game tonight but Johnson was there as well and that man is NEVER at any of our games. You know those two were watching us play and chatting it up on the sidelines on who is to go now and who for..I really feel it is totally inevitable.

I couldn't see the game, but had to follow on line at yahoosports. Thanks for that bit of insight about MJ and Bob Johnson both being there. Very interesting. I bet they are in conference with LB yesterday, today and tomorrow about what LB wants and for what price. When all 3 are together, something darn well must be going down soon.

[BRNC]

I'd say it is about 90% at this point...to make the playoffs we'd probably have to go 21-11 over the last 32 games and frankly I don't see it happening (as much as I'd like to see it)...I think the only reason Raymond has not been traded yet...DJ was hurt and at this point BJ and MJ may be taking the stance that if Ray goes the last really bad contract has to go (Nasr)...will another team take that contract to get Ray? I give it 90% before the dead line...my best guesses would be Portland, Dallas, GW, or the Kings in no particular order but just a hunch...the thing is I have no idea what we'd have to take back to get rid of Nasr:shrug:

[TattoodCats4life]

Seeing BJ and MJ at the game (an away game at that) together leads me to think LB told them "I want to move <insert player here>" and they wanted to see what the deal was beyond a box score and game on TV. Personally I think LB does want to move Ray, he had a rough game tonight, rougher than most, but how do you feel when your shooting guard cant shoot... I say we move Felton (with or without Nazr) and get back some picks and a guard who can play 2 and cover 1 instead of play 1 and barely cover 2... Felton for McCants and a first and second ;) (or May for McCants) Please do not take this as a "McCants is better than Ray because ray had a bad night" post, because its not... McCants is no where near as good as Ray, but Minn (and thunder) have a glut of picks and I'd be more than happy to take 2 low firsts and mccants or a high first and McCants for Ray because we see clearly now how well Larry does...and no Lexy isnt a bust, he should have been in teh draft in 2009, and gone 12-16 we pulled him at 20 and he has a whole year of LB coaching now and it shows in his play tonight, much better much much bettter.

[davcbow]

Seeing BJ and MJ at the game (an away game at that) together leads me to think LB told them "I want to move <insert player here>" and they wanted to see what the deal was beyond a box score and game on TV. Personally I think LB does want to move Ray, he had a rough game tonight, rougher than most, but how do you feel when your shooting guard cant shoot....

Well being that they were both in Miami tonight watching the game, does anyone think that Miami may be involved in a trade with us?

[teej]

Well being that they were both in Miami tonight watching the game, does anyone think that Miami may be involved in a trade with us?

DAEQUAN!!!!!!! Thatd be awesome...but wont happen

what would they give/take?

[ohara831]

I cant see Miami wanting Ray. They just drafted Chalmers who is going to be a good PG in time. I think it is more about the need for MJ, Bob and LB to get together to discuss it more so than the city they were in at the time. Of course, I could be totally wrong, but that is just my guess. I'd put my $ on a team that we'd talk with a team tht has no decent viable PG - assuming of course that Ray is the one being discussed. Heck, it could be someone else altogether.

[TattoodCats4life]

Yeah, I don't think Miami was a target, it was just a game they could attend together for media purposes and then discuss what they were doing next before the deadline.

[JamieMcNeill]

It is so very funny how we humans are.
While DJ was out many more people began thinking trading him and keeping Ray was the way to go. Two games back and we are back to where we started. Move Ray keep Deej.

As far as trades go i would like to see something where we deal Ray to get a decent backup sg and pg and a low first rounder

[JamieMcNeill]

We need to make something work with the Kings.
Now idk much about the Kings and who their willing to trade and how much they like Ray but what about acquiring Salmons or Udrih and their first for Ray and May or Nazr.
this and their first
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~1726&teams=23~30&te=&cash=
or this and a first
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~2776~568~376~1726&teams=23~23~23~30~30&te=&cash=
(would probably work with Udrih in Salmons place also)

[TattoodCats4life]

It is so very funny how we humans are.
While DJ was out many more people began thinking trading him and keeping Ray was the way to go. Two games back and we are back to where we started. Move Ray keep Deej.

As far as trades go i would like to see something where we deal Ray to get a decent backup sg and pg and a low first rounder

Believe me I never once said to trade DJ or not trade felton, I was even saying trade DJ when we had only him and Sean to play i stil said trade Felton and just deal with it until DJ came back ;) We'll have to see what the next 240 or so hours bring

[davcbow]

Ive never once said trade DJ, Ive also said Id love to keep Felton if possible....:cool:

[dav7z]

Trading Ray or DJ14

Thats a hard choice
Ray plays much better defence , hes bigger ,stronger , plays through pain . I would say he can distribute the ball a little better than DJ all so. Feltons shot is on and off though.

DJ has a better shot , is in just his first year with a much cheaper contract.
It's a tough choice .
I think MJ , LB and BJ has to make a choice befor the deadline whos going to be the man for the next four to five years.
If we don't trade Felton then hes the man . If we make a move DJ is the man. With all the rumors IM HEARING from the few contacts i have .S Curry will be a Bobcat next year.
T hat surely makes someone expendable.
Felts should have good value and could net us a player and a 1st.
May being a expiring could net us a late first all so for a team looking for cap space.
I expect at least one more move this week may be two.
Nazz could all so be gone if some one is looking for a big as insurance in the playoffs.
I would not be surprized if we made three deals this weak . Look for Singleterry to become a filler.

[b-nukle]

This team needs a go to person. I would like to get Caron Butler. This team needs someone to average 20 points a game.

Here's what I came up with. Hope Wizards accept.

Trade ID #4988391;) (http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4988391)

[TattoodCats4life]

Trading Ray or DJ14

Thats a hard choice
Ray plays much better defence , hes bigger ,stronger , plays through pain . I would say he can distribute the ball a little better than DJ all so. Feltons shot is on and off though.

DJ has a better shot , is in just his first year with a much cheaper contract.
It's a tough choice .
I think MJ , LB and BJ has to make a choice befor the deadline whos going to be the man for the next four to five years.
If we don't trade Felton then hes the man . If we make a move DJ is the man. With all the rumors IM HEARING from the few contacts i have .S Curry will be a Bobcat next year.
T hat surely makes someone expendable.
Felts should have good value and could net us a player and a 1st.
May being a expiring could net us a late first all so for a team looking for cap space.
I expect at least one more move this week may be two.
Nazz could all so be gone if some one is looking for a big as insurance in the playoffs.
I would not be surprized if we made three deals this weak . Look for Singleterry to become a filler.

Your probably on the right track, Felt for soemthing plus a first, May for a late first early second or maybe even a teams 10th-12th man for cap space, and Nazr can get tossed anywhere that wants him with us asking little but "take this contract PLEASE" and yes, sean Singletary may have to be on a 5th team in one year...I'm wondering how close to 30 players the bobcats can get and what the record is in the NBA (do we have it already at 23?).

[ohara831]

It would not shock me at all if by the end of this season, the only 2 players who would still be on the roster who were on it prior to the LB hiring were Crash and Okafor. Man, talk about a major overhaul of a team in 1 years time. Wow.

[spectre]

I think MJ , LB and BJ has to make a choice befor the deadline whos going to be the man for the next four to five years.

Why is that?

[Muttley]

It would not shock me at all if by the end of this season, the only 2 players who would still be on the roster who were on it prior to the LB hiring were Crash and Okafor. Man, talk about a major overhaul of a team in 1 years time. Wow.

That's a really good point. Thinking about the roster, only Ray, Nazr, Bad Sean, Mek and GW are left from Before Larry. Wow, another trade and this will actually be a completely different team.

ILBIT

[dav7z]

Why is that?


Only reason is geting the most value. But i don't know if we would rather keep Felton long term . If we decide to keep Felts we will be geting close to that Lux tax number as most say it's going to decrease. But with the S Curry rumors . A true scoring combo guard . Makes Felton expendable with very good trade value.

[TattoodCats4life]

It would not shock me at all if by the end of this season, the only 2 players who would still be on the roster who were on it prior to the LB hiring were Crash and Okafor. Man, talk about a major overhaul of a team in 1 years time. Wow.

Almost reminds me of what boston did last year, but not quite as good, but honestly i dont want to "buy" a title, i want to claw all the way there..

[Chef]

everytime i play the draft lottery on espn i can't help but think...no no no. curry is like adam morrison and the tarheel connection all wrapped up in one. i don't think he will be able to create his own shot, won't be a starter and we are going to draft him because he is local.

[spectre]

Props to Felton for Prez:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Chat.asp?CHAT_TOPICS_ID=146



Josh Meyer in Fort Dodge, IA:
Any chance of my Wolves acquiring Felton before the deadline?

http://www.hoopsworld.com/images/hw_icon.gif
Bill Ingram:
No chance - Charlotte isn't trading Felton.
For those of you that don't know, Bill Ingram is the guy who followed the Bobcats for a week or so last month.

This would correspond with Bonnell's cryptic blurb in his blog about how it could be DJ getting moved. Also, for those who had the Bobcats' feed last night: someone posted on RGM that Steve Martin said that all Felton trade talks were dead. Anyone else catch that?

[ohara831]

Spectre, I have to say that surprises me. I really thought they would at least see what the best offers were and then make a decision. Very interesting.

[davcbow]

Props to Felton for Prez:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Chat.asp?CHAT_TOPICS_ID=146

For those of you that don't know, Bill Ingram is the guy who followed the Bobcats for a week or so last month.

This would correspond with Bonnell's cryptic blurb in his blog about how it could be DJ getting moved. Also, for those who had the Bobcats' feed last night: someone posted on RGM that Steve Martin said that all Felton trade talks were dead. Anyone else catch that?

No I didnt catch that, but while driving home from the mountains last night I was listening to the pre game show on the radio and they interviewed LB. In the interview they asked about the trades and about future trades, LB said he was pretty pleased with the team and with the return of Bell and Wallace that they should be pretty strong.... It made me feel like there arent going to be any more trades... the last time I heard this type statement from LB in a interview was about month ago and you see whats taken place since then....:cool:

[spectre]

Spectre, I have to say that surprises me. I really thought they would at least see what the best offers were and then make a decision. Very interesting.

They've probably already seen the best offers. There are only so many teams wanting a PG and we've heard the rumors (GSW, Dallas & Minny)...maybe they just aren't worth it to the organization?

Plus I have to wonder if Felton's impending RFA status doesn't hinder a move with those above named teams; I'd assume they'd be trading to keep him, but because of his status they'd stand a chance of either overpaying or letting him walk just like we would.

Also...has anyone noticed that since we traded with the Nets for McInnis all our moves have been with west coast teams?

[Slam]

everytime i play the draft lottery on espn i can't help but think...no no no. curry is like adam morrison and the tarheel connection all wrapped up in one. i don't think he will be able to create his own shot, won't be a starter and we are going to draft him because he is local.
2nd spin today, we landed the #2 pick and James Harden!!

(usually when I roll it after 50 try's and us always selecting Curry I usually give up!!)

[Slam]

Props to Felton for Prez:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Chat.asp?CHAT_TOPICS_ID=146

For those of you that don't know, Bill Ingram is the guy who followed the Bobcats for a week or so last month.

This would correspond with Bonnell's cryptic blurb in his blog about how it could be DJ getting moved. Also, for those who had the Bobcats' feed last night: someone posted on RGM that Steve Martin said that all Felton trade talks were dead. Anyone else catch that?
Maybe it's all just positioning to try and keep driving Felton's value and price tag up?

Send the message to the rest of the L that he is our future so they know that if they want him, it will cost them?

[spectre]

^possibly, but I just don't think LB would be willing to run with just DJ/Singletary/crap FA as his PG rotation.

Besides...we're talking about the lollipop twins here. I don't think they're smart enough to pull that kind of bluff off.

On top of that, I don't believe the "future" thing either. Makes no sense to throw either PG under the bus by implying one has a job here while the other doesn't. DJ's in his first year on a rookie deal for chrissakes. Felton busts his ass every moment he's in the gym in practice or in a game. Neither deserve that.

[Slam]

God I hope you're right, because........


DJ/Singletary/crap FA as a PG rotation.

scares the crap out of me!

[dnbman]

Maybe it's all just positioning to try and keep driving Felton's value and price tag up?

Send the message to the rest of the L that he is our future so they know that if they want him, it will cost them?

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Virtually every GM says nothing is going on for two reasons: 1. not upset the locker room. 2. Drive up value.

My guess is that based on the deals presented, they're not trading Felton.

Trading him doesn't really make a lot of sense anyways. If we traded him, we'd virtually have to get a pg back making close to his money, since most competent vets (ie Steve Blake types) are making $4 million + . So, if Brown wanted to maintain some depth at pg, trading Felton would almost be counter productive unless some serious piece was added in return, like a first round pick. But is that going to happen?

The other possibility is that we write off the pg position for the rest of the year, letting DJ and Singletary and whatever scrub we can find run the show. However, we'd not only lose a bunch of games, but lose half a season of development for the rest of the team having to play with only one o.k. pg.

Granted, I wouldn't be surprised if we traded Felton. However, I don't think it makes any sense unless we're getting a great young talent or a first round pick, and then it better be a lottery pick or close to it.

[SCBobcat]

A guy on the bottom of Bonnell's current blog claiming inside sources, just mentioned a Nazzy/May trade for Eddy Curry and Anthony Roberson. It works on the Realgm trade checker. It gives us the advantage on upside, but probably hurts the locker room a good bit. It would get us another combo guard as well. Roberson is a 6'2" guard from Florida. I am skeptical of this idea though. It would give us a lot of expensive bulk at the center position.

[Chef]

that trade would set a record for combined weight, counting the 9 player cavs deal last year. oh and i hope b has sense enough to not bring him into our locker room.

[SirBobcat]

A guy on the bottom of Bonnell's current blog claiming inside sources, just mentioned a Nazzy/May trade for Eddy Curry and Anthony Roberson. It works on the Realgm trade checker. It gives us the advantage on upside, but probably hurts the locker room a good bit. It would get us another combo guard as well. Roberson is a 6'2" guard from Florida. I am skeptical of this idea though. It would give us a lot of expensive bulk at the center position.

I don't like that idea. Curry has too much baggage.

[TattoodCatswife]

I don't like that idea. Curry has too much baggage.

Curry definitely has a lot of drama surrounding him, we don't need that on our team.

[davcbow]

Curry definitely has a lot of drama surrounding him, we don't need that on our team.

Id almost just rather keep May and Nazr...:cool:

[spectre]

Id most definitely rather keep May and Nazr...:cool:

Fixed it for ya. :rolleyes:

[TattoodCatswife]

Id almost just rather keep May and Nazr...:cool:

Without a doubt at that point..lesser of two evils

[TattoodCats4life]

Id almost just rather keep May and Nazr...:cool:

Lard & Waste of Cap > Lard ass Waste of Cap space with tons of baggage.

[davcbow]

Fixed it for ya. :rolleyes:

Yep thats what I meant....:cool:

[TattoodCats4life]

Solved the remaining problems with the Cats...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~2776~568~1135~63~2008&teams=7~7~7~30~30~30&te=&cash=

[TattoodCatswife]

Solved the remaining problems with the Cats...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~2776~568~1135~63~2008&teams=7~7~7~30~30~30&te=&cash= (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753%7E2776%7E568%7E1135%7E63% 7E2008&teams=7%7E7%7E7%7E30%7E30%7E30&te=&cash=)

I would so love to get Chauncey here it's not even funny!