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TattoodCats4life
02-19-2009, 04:17 PM
It would seem we didn't make any moves, as nothing has been mentioned on any of the rumors sites I know of (nba.com news is WAY slow so I check lots of places). Anyway, do we go forward with 14 or do we grab someone, NBA DL or someone off waivers ?

Discuss ->

teej
02-19-2009, 04:19 PM
Hope we didnt get anyone, so we can sign a NBADL guy now

Slam
02-19-2009, 04:19 PM
Wait to see who is waived and see if any vet guards fill through the cracks that we can sign on the cheap.

BRNC
02-19-2009, 04:25 PM
Exactly...Kings are already talking of cutting Moore...see if any combo guard gets cut...if not then go to NBLDL...

BETCATS
02-19-2009, 04:25 PM
To explain here is what happened

1. The media creates B.S trade talks: :funkybanana:

2. Trade talks shot down by our front office :bang: :deadbanana:

3. Deadline comes and goes BS dies: :rip: :rip:

playoffs...PLAYOFFS?
02-19-2009, 04:25 PM
Wait to see who is waived and see if any vet guards fill through the cracks that we can sign on the cheap.

exactly. that's what LB said this morning, he expressed he wanted one more PG, big enough to be able to play the SG. this would really put us in a good position..granted, no "star players" in the team, but will give us depth and balance. this will be good enough to finish this season as a playoff contender..or definitely a playoff contender next season

BRNC
02-19-2009, 04:29 PM
...and someone will come up...it always happens...

BRNC
02-19-2009, 04:33 PM
The rumors sound like Portland went fishing with 3-4 teams trying to rob a SF and no one would bite the year...I'm glad we did not bite...I have no real problem with a team letting itself get robbed of talent as long as it is not our team...I'd prefer we start doing the robbing...

teej
02-19-2009, 04:35 PM
I'd prefer we start doing the robbing...

see: Boris Diaw, Raja Bell, Sean Singletary, Desegana Diop, Vladimir Radmonivic

BRNC
02-19-2009, 04:37 PM
see: Boris Diaw, Raja Bell, Sean Singletary, Desegana Diop, Vladimir Radmonivic

...something like that teej...but I'd like us to go for "Larceny" the next time...LOL

Proudiddy
02-19-2009, 04:41 PM
I hope we sign Mikki Moore

BRNC
02-19-2009, 04:45 PM
I think Moore will sign with Boston if he gets the chance...and I think LB wants a big defensive minded combo guard...not another pf/c...

TattoodCatswife
02-19-2009, 05:07 PM
see: Boris Diaw, Raja Bell, Sean Singletary, Desegana Diop, Vladimir Radmonivic

HAHA yeah we totally stole them it's not even funny

teej
02-19-2009, 05:08 PM
HAHA yeah we totally stole them it's not even funny
actually it is

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::bigg rin::biggrin:

and i never feel bad for phil jackson or steve kerr

and mark cuban is supposed to know what hes doing

TattoodCats4life
02-19-2009, 05:09 PM
see: Boris Diaw, Raja Bell, Sean Singletary, Desegana Diop, Vladimir Radmonivic
I say we up the ante to "grand theft" next time :)

TattoodCats4life
02-19-2009, 05:12 PM
Just had an awesome idea... Larry sits down Cartier and says "Who was the hardest to guard 1/2 that you played against/with in the D-League" Then Larry can send a scout to verify and boom all done

BETCATS
02-19-2009, 05:23 PM
Just had an awesome idea... Larry sits down Cartier and says "Who was the hardest to guard 1/2 that you played against/with in the D-League" Then Larry can send a scout to verify and boom all done


http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/BETCATS/davinci.jpg

ALuhrs704
02-19-2009, 05:25 PM
i just let a huge sigh of relief out at 3, because with all the rumors around crash i was worried we would make the lone mistake of the year. but we didnt, and i think we can push, hard, for the playoffs with this squad.

polarcat
02-19-2009, 05:31 PM
i'm glad we stood pat at the deadline. it's nice to make splashes but we did ours early and any trade today of felts or crash would've killed our chemistry and not necessarily made us better. it would've been ideal to drop may and nazr on someone for something, but whatevs. i'm glad our team is the same today as it was when they left the court last night. as far as picking up a pg/sg, i wonder just how bad shawn livingston's injury is. he's young, tall, mainly a pg but could maybe play sg in certain situations. if not he, hopefully someone else's waiver fodder.

BigMike
02-19-2009, 05:42 PM
To explain here is what happened

1. The media creates B.S trade talks: :funkybanana:

2. Trade talks shot down by our front office :bang: :deadbanana:

3. Deadline comes and goes BS dies: :rip: :rip:



I am just happy I don’t have to see posts for all of those crazy trades people come up with on the Trade Machine

“Hey what if we traded Felton and Wallace for Shack!? The machine says it would work if we added our next 3 draft picks!”

GoBobs
02-19-2009, 05:43 PM
i think 14 is a good number really. who ever we sign is just going to be sitting around in street clothes. I think between lil sean, ray and dj we have all the guards we need plus we have diaw who can play guard if need be.

I wanna see our tall lineup get some run

C. Alexis
PF. Mek
SF. Radman
SG. Wallace
PG. French Lebron

BETCATS
02-19-2009, 05:48 PM
anything involving Alexis playing at this pivotal part of the season is just a no no.

You know who would do that? :fhb:

GoBobs
02-19-2009, 05:59 PM
well some run in the 4th in some 30 pt blow out wins then

BETCATS
02-19-2009, 06:16 PM
well some run in the 4th in some 30 pt blow out wins then


I can deal with that. BUt i think we should send him and Sean the Little down to the D-Leauge until playoff time. Get them some heavy minutes

TheBeagle
02-19-2009, 06:29 PM
anything involving Alexis playing at this pivotal part of the season is just a no no.

You know who would do that? :fhb: I don't agree with that at all. Anytime he's been on the court, there has been no disadvantage for us in terms of point margin with any given opponent. Remember, he was part of the lineup that slashed 25 or so points of the Pistons lead back in December, and the last time he got significant minutes, against the Heat, he put up 4, 2, and a block and helped cut the Heat lead from 9 to 2....when Larry took him out the lead ballooned back up to 7.

Yes, I'm a huge Lexy fan, and talk to him once every couple weeks, so there is major bias, but objectively, it's not like he's a disaster when he's out there.

I'm not advocating putting him in there in the final 5 minutes of a tight game, but a little more PT is not too much to ask for. Thankfully, he's staying pretty upbeat about it, and doesn't lack for confidence and knows he's a part of the future.


But yes, 3pm came and went, and I'm happy to see Raymond still a Cat. And GW? No words needed. Just :biggrin:.

BETCATS
02-19-2009, 06:38 PM
I don't agree with that at all. Anytime he's been on the court, there has been no disadvantage for us in terms of point margin with any given opponent. Remember, he was part of the lineup that slashed 25 or so points of the Pistons lead back in December, and the last time he got significant minutes, against the Heat, he put up 4, 2, and a block and helped cut the Heat lead from 9 to 2....when Larry took him out the lead ballooned back up to 7.

Yes, I'm a huge Lexy fan, and talk to him once every couple weeks, so there is major bias, but objectively, it's not like he's a disaster when he's out there.

I'm not advocating putting him in there in the final 5 minutes of a tight game, but a little more PT is not too much to ask for. Thankfully, he's staying pretty upbeat about it, and doesn't lack for confidence and knows he's a part of the future.


But yes, 3pm came and went, and I'm happy to see Raymond still a Cat. And GW? No words needed. Just :biggrin:.


My point is not that he sucks, it is that he needs more minutes. I want them to give him 3-4 games in the D-League THEN play him. IF you just pull him off the bench and he is acustomed to doing garbage time, you wont get as much of out of him as you would if he was in rhythm. I dont think we can get maximum output from him YET.

ohara831
02-19-2009, 07:17 PM
I wish I felt as good about the team's status as you guys do. I think we are a team that can vie for the 8th seed, staying in that range of #8 - #12. But we dont have the pieces to be anywhere near a contender. I just cant get that excited over what I perceive as mediocrity. I hope I am wrong and this team is able to go further, but I think we may overvalue our team as much as other team's fans undervalue our team. I'll still be pulling hard for the guys, but I do so with tempered expectations.

TattoodCats4life
02-19-2009, 07:34 PM
I wish I felt as good about the team's status as you guys do. I think we are a team that can vie for the 8th seed, staying in that range of #8 - #12. But we dont have the pieces to be anywhere near a contender. I just cant get that excited over what I perceive as mediocrity. I hope I am wrong and this team is able to go further, but I think we may overvalue our team as much as other team's fans undervalue our team. I'll still be pulling hard for the guys, but I do so with tempered expectations.

A team making the playoffs for the first time in it's history is nowhere near mediocrity. Mediocrity in the playoffs would be if the Celtics dropped to like 5th... but when a team every single non-fan writes off as an easy win puts together a 38-42 win season its not mediocre. If we did 33-35 that be "eh" same old same old.

LB4President
02-19-2009, 07:43 PM
A big guard who can play both the one and two. I really hope the Pacers buy out Tinsley. That would be a perfect scenario. But if that doesn't happen who do you think we are looking at. I don't think Cassell has any desire to play for us. Who else might get released after the deadline?

ohara831
02-19-2009, 07:54 PM
A team making the playoffs for the first time in it's history is nowhere near mediocrity. Mediocrity in the playoffs would be if the Celtics dropped to like 5th... but when a team every single non-fan writes off as an easy win puts together a 38-42 win season its not mediocre. If we did 33-35 that be "eh" same old same old.


But I think that is exactly what we are looking at - in the 33 to 35 range. That would be the "eh" category, which is the same old same old, which is my "mediocrity". If we do the 38-42 win total, then I will very happily say I was wrong. But the easy part of our schedule was in the 1st half of the season.

davcbow
02-19-2009, 08:03 PM
I told you folks there wouldnt be any more trades and Im very glad there wasnt....:cool:

Slam
02-19-2009, 08:36 PM
But I think that is exactly what we are looking at - in the 33 to 35 range. That would be the "eh" category, which is the same old same old, which is my "mediocrity". If we do the 38-42 win total, then I will very happily say I was wrong. But the easy part of our schedule was in the 1st half of the season.
I totally agree. I don't think that going from 33 to 38 jumps us from "eh" to great. Both are pretty mediocre.

Of course, if we had the roster we have today at the start of the season, I doubt we would still be in that 33-38 range.

To be a legit team, which I think we can be, we need to aim to be +.500

SWedd523
02-19-2009, 08:42 PM
A big guard who can play both the one and two. I really hope the Pacers buy out Tinsley. That would be a perfect scenario.

sorry but no.

BRNC
02-19-2009, 08:51 PM
17 road games out of the last 28 does not help...6 home games against playoff teams does not help...I can see going .500 in the last 28 but I think it will be tough to do better than .500...36 wins will not get us in the playoffs!

It will be tough but at this point I agee the 38-42 would make this a good season...I want the team to do it but this is a tough road to do it on...

polarcat
02-19-2009, 09:03 PM
if this team as constructed can stay healthy, continue to gel, get production from the bench, and be rotated properly by lb, i don't see why we can't make the playoffs. i really think we can be the atlanta hawks of this year which is exactly what the franchise needs. we've run the celts this year and though it's an uphill battle, this team is looking good. i hope we stay under the radar for as long as possible. this is a big week coming up to keep an eye on. we're currently 3.5 games behind milwaukee. this is how our 2 schedules look:

charlotte --

fri vs. orlando (3East)
sun @ houston (6West)
tue @ phoenix (9West)
wed @ sacramento (worst in nba)
fri @ golden state (10West)

milwaukee--

fri vs. cleveland (2East)
sun vs. denver (2West)
wed @ dallas (7West)
fri @ new orleans (5West)

their games are versus all playoff contenders and we have only 2 playoff contenders (and one is a heated revenge game against orlando at our house). we have an extra game during the stretch and we also play the worst team in the league. i know it's tough to go on the road for 4 straight, while they have 2 at home and 2 on the road, but it's a very doable task. if we go 4-1 and they go 1-3 this coming week, we will be tied for the 8 seed. obviously games aren't won on paper and numbers are exactly that, numbers, but this next week is a very intriguing week to scoreboard watch.

BRNC
02-19-2009, 09:09 PM
It is 4 of 5 road games...the Suns would have the 5th seed if they were in the East and are playing a heck of a lot better...but yes...I'd venture to say we will go to the playoffs if we go 4-1 in those games...but is it a realistic expectation...frankly I'd be happy with 3-2 and the Bucks 0-4...

polarcat
02-19-2009, 09:29 PM
...frankly I'd be happy with 3-2 and the Bucks 0-4...


sure....i'll take it either way :cheers1:

Jeff41
02-20-2009, 01:17 AM
I told you folks there wouldnt be any more trades and Im very glad there wasnt....:cool:

I took a HUGE sigh of relief at 3PM when I had on espn.com and didn't see any more trades. I really like our roster as it is, I think we can make some noise and get that 8th seed. Sure it would have been nice to unload Nazr, but no one will take his contract without getting something valuable as well.

WAM9
02-20-2009, 10:32 AM
This team is certainly in building mode, 100%. Look at the great acquisitions that have happened since LB arrived. If we push hard for the 8th spot this year, then that would be something we can certainly continue to build on. The whole walk before you can run thing...

If the Celtics come in 8th, that's mediocrity, if we do, that's a huge step towards eventually competing for a championship.

amour217
02-20-2009, 10:43 AM
sure....i'll take it either way :cheers1:

That's what she said

polarcat
02-20-2009, 11:01 AM
That's what she said

well played my friend :biggrin:

teej
02-20-2009, 04:01 PM
That's what she said

lmao...i knew you'd say that before i read it

TheBeagle
02-20-2009, 04:21 PM
This team is certainly in building mode, 100%. Look at the great acquisitions that have happened since LB arrived. If we push hard for the 8th spot this year, then that would be something we can certainly continue to build on. The whole walk before you can run thing...

If the Celtics come in 8th, that's mediocrity, if we do, that's a huge step towards eventually competing for a championship. +1 Absolutely agree. When talking mediocrity, you must contextualize, and considering we're in the midst of year 5 as a franchise, and out most wins for a season are 33, every win we get after 33 (if it happens) is gravy and is better than mediocre, especially considering the mess the roster was in on opening night.

Next year is a completely different story on the other hand, and I agree with spectre that .500 is the goal, with every win above that as the gravy.