Charlotte Bobcats at Phoenix Suns 2/23

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Tonight we get to wash the stench of the last two games away.

Tonight should be a lot more fun though, we have Boris & Raja returning to their old home court and oh the opposite side we'll have to deal with a hyped up J-Rich and Jared Dudley ( Duds is actually getting some minutes now with Amare hurt ).


On a side note: Here is super secret undercover video of Jason Richardson doing 90 in a 35.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYdUTWnAPas



I seriously doubt if we see a weak effort tonight.

Thoughts?

[spectre]

http://www.justin.tv/swizzie92

Hopefully this will work.

[davcbow]

Im not saying anything tonight, I just hope we win... I hope the guys get out of that funk they have been in for the last 2 games....:cool:

[Ghost Kat]

LETS GO CATS!!!!!


Who's doing the T-Shirt gun??

Maybe if we get excited ,then they will play excited... these last two games hace been lackluster and depressing>:(

[Robertpel9]

Why is the pregame not coming on fox sports, something seems wrong with directv anyone else ith this problem

[Ghost Kat]

My Fox Sports has the Carolina Hurricanes

[Robertpel9]

Game should be on channel 650 RSNa (regional sports network alternate) it is on 650 a lot

All i can hope if that there is no pregame tonight and the game will come on at 9pm.

Anyone else know anything about this, i planne dmy night around watching the game and am getting pissed

[Robertpel9]

Ok it is 9:03 and still no game on drectv, WHAT IS HAPPENING

[Robertpel9]

odd, downstairs TV is showing the game on regular directv

upstairs game room where i watch it is blank screen on my HDTV DVR

This is odd, rebooting box

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im not getting the signal on TWC..it's fragmented

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this is ridiculous now it just froze at 11:41.anyone else having this problem

[Robertpel9]

you can never trust your DVR, i reset it (takes 10 minutes) and now i have a feed. I am good to go we are shooting well out of the gate, need to have good D

[davcbow]

OMG, we're winning 16-11 :cool:

[Robertpel9]

Bell appears to finally be coming out of his slump (thank God) he has to be on or we get our asses kicked

cmon defense

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robert are you in the charlotte area?

i gave up:

http://www.channelsurfing.net/

has the game

[spectre]

Welcome back Raja!

Fun game so far, but we are playing at the Suns' pace.

I love watching Nash when he's on...except when it's against us.

[Robertpel9]

Hi

Yes i live in the Lake Norman area

since i reset my HDDVR all is well, i have a good signal

the link on page one of this thread works too i was watching that waiting for my box to reset.

I hate not being able to count on my DTV service

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Hi

Yes i live in the Lake Norman area

since i reset my HDDVR all is well, i have a good signal

the link on page one of this thread works too i was watching that waiting for my box to reset.

I hate not being able to count on my DTV service

gotcha..neverming, i thought you were on TWC

i have TWC in CLT..and the signal just froze, so i;m watching on my comp

[Robertpel9]

We need felton to move the ball not score, cmon now

[Robertpel9]

nice finesse diaw

[Robertpel9]

way to take a charge crash,

okafor they said is winded, he better be able to keep up with shaqs 400 lb ass

[teej]

looking solid so far, glad to see Raja is back from reading, just got in

Lets go Cats

[biz]

gotcha..neverming, i thought you were on TWC

i have TWC in CLT..and the signal just froze, so i;m watching on my comp

Same here... TWC in CLT... frozen at 11:41. Just watching on Justin.TV for now.

[Ghost Kat]

http://www.justin.tv/swizzie92

Hopefully this will work.

You shall be prasied and worthshipped as a God

[teej]

Dudley!!!!

[Robertpel9]

Nice scoreboard malfunction, we can catch our wind

[spectre]

You shall be prasied and worthshipped as a God

No need for all that...cash will be fine. :biggrin:

Nice little offense there between Crash & Mek.

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Same here... TWC in CLT... frozen at 11:41. Just watching on Justin.TV for now.

try channelsurfing.net , better sounds

[Robertpel9]

damn nearly a 3 pt play

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TWC is back on air..finally!

[davcbow]

TWC is working good here in APEX on cahnnel 145..... 22-21 BCATS :cool:

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felton would do really well at the run n gun..

[Robertpel9]

looks like a damn game of street ball or the ASG

[teej]

who scored the last basket? channelsurfing is lagging for me

[Robertpel9]

vlad missedm dudley hits 2 fts

[Ghost Kat]

Great Pass DJ!!!

[BETCATS]

hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooly shit i had no idea this game was on!!! :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused:


Cat in Cat out

[spectre]

Great Pass DJ!!!

It was!

Notice how well we have the floor spread right now.

Edit...ok, end of quarter. The last two possessions no one was in the paint...we need to keep doing that.

[Ghost Kat]

Felton needs rest... why bring him back in for Raja for one shot?

[Robertpel9]

hanging in there, down by 2 after Q1

Man Phx runs and runs and runs and hit crazy shots, If we can keep it close we should be able to take advanteg of when they go cold during the game lets jsut hope we can keep up. we will need our depth tonight for legs

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the thing is that you can really ever slow them down..i see teams end up playing at their pace

it's going to suck having to play tomorrow..i hope we are not too tired

[Ghost Kat]

Take that J-rich...Go DJ

[Robertpel9]

Does PHX miss from outside this is insane

[Robertpel9]

uh oh terrible shot from martin, we are in a bad spot here, we will not come back from a big deficit against this team hate to say it too early but it is now or never

[spectre]

Wow...down by 3 and the site freezes. By the time I open up channelsurfing.net and get the other link going we're down 10?

[Ghost Kat]

Everyone has a link with good sound right?? i was watching a bad feed till i switched

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uh oh terrible shot from martin, we are in a bad spot here, we will not come back from a big deficit against this team hate to say it too early but it is now or never

just gotta hope they get cold and make your shots

[Robertpel9]

outscored 18-5 in 3 mins, that is NUTS

[Robertpel9]

why are we trying to run with them, just because they score in 5 seconds does not mean we have to,

Slow the damn game downm run our offensive sets and f ing relax

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whatsup with DJ...he holds on to the ball too much lately

[teej]

Man this is tough...but Amundson is still gay...in more than one way

[SirBobcat]

ugh this is ridiculous

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why are we trying to run with them, just because they score in 5 seconds does not mean we have to,

Slow the damn game downm run our offensive sets and f ing relax

its not as easy as that...boston plays good defense, they couldnt slow them an just ran with them ..we need more penetration and hit our threes

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Man this is tough...but Amundson is still gay...in more than one way

he looks like a combination of fabio (herrmann) and some emo guy

[teej]

god almighty, just like the rockets game

[Robertpel9]

I think i will be going to bed early tonight, this is a damn embarassment, the honeymoon is already over, we are still at the lower ond of mediocrity unfortunately

Very disappointing

[teej]

hope dj's ok

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dudes, its only 10 pts..come on have some faith

[spectre]

those on ATDHE or channelsurfing...does the full screen button work for you guys? I clik on it and it takes me to the justin site.

[Ghost Kat]

hope dj's ok

He got leveled

[Robertpel9]

dudes, its only 10 pts..come on have some faith

Not a matter of faith, we ar enot a come from behind team let alone a runa nd gun team

I am a realist, i love the team but we have another move to make before we are a serious team, we need a real start bit 8019 players with similar levels of skill, we went from bad to mediocre, more work to be done in the offseason

[teej]

"Crash is gonna get crashed"

sounds like one of us

[Ghost Kat]

He got leveled

Got to quote myself... Okafor got leveled by ShaQ

[teej]

OMG Shaq is a beast

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we look better with shaq on the floor honestly

[Robertpel9]

we look better with shaq on the floor honestly


Thts because he slows that team down

we have not been smart enough to slow ourselves down and play our game

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Thts because he slows that team down

we have not been smart enough to slow ourselves down and play our game


you have to diferentiate .."we" as in the bench players..we were doing fine wiht the starters

[Robertpel9]

you have to diferentiate .."we" as in the bench players..we were doing fine wiht the starters


True, LB left them out there for a long time though so that was much of Q2

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True, LB left them out there for a long time though so that was much of Q2

agreed...i blame DJ for some of it..i dont feel he runs the offense as well as felton..but nice end to the quarter, lets hope the bench realizes the mistakes they made and steps up!!

[Robertpel9]

God now they are calling felton the buzzerbeater, i'd rather set up a shot for bell of vlad,

JUST LIKE THAT as i was typing, felton does not make them when it counts, get bell and vlad the rock

good job

[teej]

3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

[biz]

BEAUTIFUL end of half play. Got it down to 4. Let's go.

[spectre]

Raja!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Robertpel9]

Cats are going to keep me up late again, i hope it is worth it

[Ghost Kat]

That was a great close to half time... i dont know what happened there in the middle but we have faught back. Great pass by Felton to Raja for three!!!

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That was a great close to half time... i dont know what happened there in the middle but we have faught back. Great pass by Felton to Raja for three!!!

what happened is the bench came in and just choked...they weren't ready for the run n gun...

[teej]

great end to the half, I liked our passion, i was worried on that run that we would lie down and die but we didnt

[davcbow]

Great play to end the half down 59-55, Felts to Bell for 3eeee.... :cool:

[TattoodCatswife]

They are definitely playing better tonight than when they played the Magic and the Rockets. I just hope they can keep this up into the second half.

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i expect the suns to come out strong, im a bit worried

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They are definitely playing better tonight than when they played the Magic and the Rockets. I just hope they can keep this up into the second half.

defintely! the biggest difference..our assists are 10 at the end of the half..!

[TattoodCatswife]

i expect the suns to come out strong, im a bit worried

I agree with you...things haven't been looking good for us at all lately and haven't been going our way either.

[TattoodCats4life]

Wallace cant catch a freaking break with these refs.

[TattoodCatswife]

Wallace cant catch a freaking break with these refs.

Neither can Okafor apparently

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Wallace cant catch a freaking break with these refs.

neither wallace or mek

mek with 4 fouls.., dejavu all over again

[Robertpel9]

okafor with 4 fouls, we are now going to be stuck with Diop for a long time

cmon cats, LB needs to focus on perimiter D

[teej]

golllllly these refs are pissing me off

and no swedd its not an excuse wherever you are

[davcbow]

Damn if we didnt start the 3rd like we did the 2nd... :cool:

[davcbow]

golllllly these refs are pissing me off

and no swedd its not an excuse wherever you are

LOL thats funny...:p

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golllllly these refs are pissing me off

and no swedd its not an excuse wherever you are

thats BS...the refs are truly screwing us over

[Robertpel9]

I never bitch about calls and we are sucking anyway but that is the worst call i ave seen this year

[teej]

I never bitch about calls and we are sucking anyway but that is the worst call i ave seen this year

no the magic were worse

[teej]

vladiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

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we can suck right now but:
1)watching vlad hit 3s makes me feel better knowing adam morrison doesnt play in our team

2) we need more ball movement..phoenix doesnt play D...with ball movement we should be able to find the open man..there is still hope

[Robertpel9]

Diop take a beautiful shot and missed and then fouls, he HAS to make those easy shots it is not excusable

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i hate bitching about the refs too,...but that last call on RF was ridiculous

[teej]

no the magic were worse

correction, this is fucking bullshit

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i like the run n gun by us! haha

[spectre]

Three nice plays in a row by Felton.

Raja looks royally pissed.

[teej]

Gana is is Raja's doghouse

[spectre]

Geez, sick shot by Nash. Hope he's ok...but if he can't make it back tonight I can live with it.:p

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i must be blind but i didnt see that last diaw play as an offensive foul

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good put back by RF

but how on earth was that a no call...

[Robertpel9]

wow this is bad officiating, wallace got mugged and no call but now DJ gets an off ball foul

we are sucking like i said but WTF is wrong with these refs

[teej]

with nash out and diaw, bell, gerald, ray, and dj on tonight we can still do it, great hustle if nothing else, at least the last two games were an aberration

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wow this is bad officiating, wallace got mugged and no call but now DJ gets an off ball foul

we are sucking like i said but WTF is wrong with these refs

im blaming this one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Bavetta

the guy is 70 years old..nothing against old people..but how can we expect him to have perfect vision, run up and down and catch everything thats going on

[Ghost Kat]

Refs:mad:.... these are some bad calls.

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Refs:mad:.... these are some bad calls.

some conspiracy theory on one of the refs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Bavetta
Controversy

Bavetta was one of three referees for the notorious Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference Finals between Sacramento and the L.A. Lakers. Former referee Tim Donaghy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Donaghy) has alleged that at least one of the referees working this game had subjective motives for wanting the Lakers to defeat the Kings, and made officiating calls to effectuate this outcome. On June 12, 2008 the New York Times reported that the FBI is investigating allegations that Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference finals between the Lakers and Kings had been manipulated to further the series to a seventh game.

[spectre]

Good D by DJ twice and Martin on Dragic.

Boris scoring well inside!

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hallelujah! we see some calls going our way

[teej]

sounds like most NBA officials assigned to the Bobcats...biased

[spectre]

Crash bringing some energy! Trying to push a little here!

[teej]

within 7!!!

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whoever called vladi a space cadet..he seems very well aware right now

and again, we get dicked by the refs..what a FLOP

[teej]

Damn refs....but good job Vladi

[Robertpel9]

i am being quiet and just watching, we dug a hold and at least have a shot now

Lets as fans stop making excuses and applauding effort though, this is all about winning, anything less is unacceptable. I am not happy with a close game or a good effort, i want W's for my money

[Ghost Kat]

some conspiracy theory on one of the refs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Bavetta
Controversy

Bavetta was one of three referees for the notorious Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference Finals between Sacramento and the L.A. Lakers. Former referee Tim Donaghy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Donaghy) has alleged that at least one of the referees working this game had subjective motives for wanting the Lakers to defeat the Kings, and made officiating calls to effectuate this outcome. On June 12, 2008 the New York Times reported that the FBI is investigating allegations that Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference finals between the Lakers and Kings had been manipulated to further the series to a seventh game.

Good find.... I almost forgot about that... Someone has to have big money on this game... I cant see why though

[Robertpel9]

Good find.... I almost forgot about that... Someone has to have big money on this game... I cant see why though
\\Cmon guys, every game you all complain about this, i agree some of it sucks but really we are just not playing to our potential. Lets stop making excuses and just demand that we play to the best of our ability.

[Ghost Kat]

This is getting shameful. These Ref's have got to be kidding tonight...The league needs to be called..Heads need to roll... We keep fighting back but the Ref's are killing us tonight. They aren't calling a equal game.

[davcbow]

Would someone try to explain to me why they caled that foul on Mek when shack bumped him 3 times in a row and Mek had his feet planyed on the ground?... Yes these refs are biased....:cool:

[spectre]

Dammit. Crash out and Richardson gets 3.

[davcbow]

Now explain that call on GW that made him foul out....:cool: Screw the NBA's cheatin refs....>:(

[teej]

god almighty gerald

[Robertpel9]

Okafor needs to not play offense like a p*ssy, strong to the hoop big man!!!!

[teej]

Okafor needs to not play offense like a p*ssy, strong to the hoop big man!!!!

he'd get called for an offensive foul, in case you havent watched

thats why we cant play all out, we get called for fouls

but damn it'd be nice if some people would think sometimes, and maybe if we could rotate more on D, just a little bit? or defend a guy with the hot hand?

[Robertpel9]

two missed FT's to boot

we are the definition of mediocrity, i would rather completely suck than be mediocre at something

last 10 = 3-7 enought said

[Ghost Kat]

These annoucers are funny for the Suns...Haters..But funny...:(

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this is not about making excuses, but being down by five and being called on a bullshit 3 pt play doesnt help our cause.

[Robertpel9]

this is not about making excuses, but being down by five and being called on a bullshit 3 pt play doesnt help our cause.


LOTS of things put us in a posiiton to have to claw back from being down 14 int he 1st place, like i said at the starto fthe game we are not a come from behind team. The refs did not help for sure but they did not put us in the hole int he first place.

The first place to look for solutions to problems is the mirror - i am a huge fan but we still for the most part suck

[teej]

we need a bigger center than okafor, but we cant move him to pf...a dilemma

disappointingly pleasing game...overall raja's shot is back, okafor is hustling, 112-102 not what i want but it beats houston and orlando

[QCWalt]

This is quite possibly the worst, most one-sided officiating I've ever seen in a Bobcats game. All capped off by that terrible, phantom 3 point call on Wallace (his 6th) that pretty much sealed the deal. I don't fault our effort tonight because we had no chance with this POS officiating.>:(

[Ghost Kat]

We play'd hard the whole game...I'm actually proud even though we lost ,we looked alot better. This game was stolen. Those Ref's did not call a equal game. How did Wallace foul out? There was not foul there...That kinda mess went on the whole game. Can't say don't blame the Ref's, The Ref's might have doomed us more then dumb turnovers on this night

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LOTS of things put us in a posiiton to have to claw back from being down 14 int he 1st place, like i said at the starto fthe game we are not a come from behind team. The refs did not help for sure but they did not put us in the hole int he first place.

The first place to look for solutions to problems is the mirror - i am a huge fan but we still for the most part suck

true, but in the NBA is not about how you start the game but how you finish..i didn't expect us to come dominate but we should have been able to put on a good run towards the end, which we did, we just needed a bit of a break that we didnt get

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We play'd hard the whole game...I'm actually proud even though we lost ,we looked alot better. This game was stolen. Those Ref's did not call a equal game. How did Wallace foul out? There was not foul there...That kinda mess went on the whole game. Can't say don't blame the Ref's, The Ref's might have doomed us more then dumb turnovers on this night

from LB im sure that all he'll care about is the turnovers

agreed though, i was satisfied with our play too

[teej]

even with the refs we could have won, without the refs we culd have lost too. We are about equal with the Suns (sans A'Mare), and thats not bad for us as far as playoff chances.

[Robertpel9]

The game is 48 minutes and you need to play all 48 minutes, if you dont than you reap what you sow

I will always support this team with my time, emotion and money but i am not going to be proud of a loss or happy with supposed progress. Never confuse facts with opinions

the fact is we are 3-7 in the last 10 games. Don't lay it on the refs, we are playing like sh!t

[QCWalt]

I thought we played well enough to win tonight. But when Wallace gets his 5th on an offensive foul where he's under the basket (?!), and then fouls out on a BS call for a three pointer, the refs are screwing you and not doing their job. LB is even pointing this out (albeit very politely) on the presser right now.

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lets see what LB has to say ..

he says he liked our effort, GW out with fouls hurt us, they made the big plays we didn't at the end, without stars its tough to get respect, without stars you are not going to get the double teams to defend you

i get the sense he is not happy with the officiating towards the end of the game...i might be wrong, but thats how i read it

[Robertpel9]

I agreee that the officiating sucked, i am more pissed though that we take 5 good Q1 start and as has been the norm lately allow another team to run up a big double digit lead on us and then delude ourselves into thinking we can come back

We need to play all 48 minutes like they are the last minute. We have a lot of depth and no starts, need to utilize the rotation keep fresh legs out there and play all 48 minutes like they are our last and we wont be in the posiiton int he first place

[Ghost Kat]

The game is 48 minutes and you need to play all 48 minutes, if you dont than you reap what you sow

I will always support this team with my time, emotion and money but i am not going to be proud of a loss or happy with supposed progress. Never confuse facts with opinions

the fact is we are 3-7 in the last 10 games. Don't lay it on the refs, we are playing like sh!t


I'll agree that we aren't playing well but if you say there is no blame on the ref's then you must have listened on the radio.

[QCWalt]

Not sure what we've lost since the all star break, but something is missing. Weird thing is, we finally get fully healthy and rested, and we can't win. Maybe we're just not as good as we think, but I like to think we're better then we've shown these past few games.

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I agreee that the officiating sucked, i am more pissed though that we take 5 good Q1 start and as has been the norm lately allow another team to run up a big double digit lead on us and then delude ourselves into thinking we can come back

We need to play all 48 minutes like they are the last minute. We have a lot of depth and no starts, need to utilize the rotation keep fresh legs out there and play all 48 minutes like they are our last and we wont be in the posiiton int he first place

you have to take into account that some of the slow down comes from our bench...the bench had played well, until recent.. i mean these guys havent played together the whole season so im guessing they are still getting acclimated.

i dont think its that the team just decides to take time off during the game and thats why we suck in the 2Q. LB has rarely said that we lack effort.. i think it has more to do with getting used to one aother

[Robertpel9]

you have to take into account that some of the slow down comes from our bench...the bench had played well, until recent.. i mean these guys havent played together the whole season so im guessing they are still getting acclimated.

i dont think its that the team just decides to take time off during the game and thats why we suck in the 2Q. LB has rarely said that we lack effort.. i think it has more to do with getting used to one aother


I agree with you, we have made a lot of moves and it takes time for the to gel. This season is about next season. We need to make one offseason move and et a real star on the team, we have enough depth to be able to move a bit if we are willing to pay. We will make the playoffs next year regardless of if we make a move or not but if we really want to make it happen and keep in mind LB is almost 70 years old then lets go for it.

There will be no playoffs this year, the team needs to learn how to play together and the coachin staff has to figure out the rotation and next year we should come out of the gate int he top half of the league

Lets be realistic about this year moving forward though

[teej]

I agree with you, we have made a lot of moves and it takes time for the to gel. This season is about next season. We need to make one offseason move and et a real star on the team, we have enough depth to be able to move a bit if we are willing to pay. We will make the playoffs next year regardless of if we make a move or not but if we really want to make it happen and keep in mind LB is almost 70 years old then lets go for it.

There will be no playoffs this year, the team needs to learn how to play together and the coachin staff has to figure out the rotation and next year we should come out of the gate int he top half of the league

Lets be realistic about this year moving forward though

i think trading okafor could be a good idea after watching the last three games in particular

he cannon (ever since he's come into the league) be a force, he wasnt even close to Howard as far as talent, and we missed on that one, not that it was our fault. He is good, but not great. The one constant on championship teams is big men, and while Okafor is big, he can't beat Shaq (at 36), Yao, and Dwight...and thats this week

[Robertpel9]

i think trading okafor could be a good idea after watching the last three games in particular

he cannon (ever since he's come into the league) be a force, he wasnt even close to Howard as far as talent, and we missed on that one, not that it was our fault. He is good, but not great. The one constant on championship teams is big men, and while Okafor is big, he can't beat Shaq (at 36), Yao, and Dwight...and thats this week

Perhaps Okafor / Felton / and a benchwarmer for something we need??

I like Okafor a lot, if he had better hands he would be a really solid PF. In this day and age he is just not big enough to play Center on a championship squad ESPECIALLY when you couple him with Diaw at the 4 spot. I love Diaw but he is a European Finesse guy not a power prescence down low.

The real reason the Celtics beat the Lakers last year is they absued them physically down low.

Bell can play 2 for a year or to IF he can stay healthy, he plays good defense and stretches their D with his shot when it is on. He cannot create his own shot. We need Wallace to be able to do that more, Diaw Distribute the ball and pick up the finess pts down low anxd we need a really Big tough guy down low

[davcbow]

I think what would really help our effort would be some sort of trade like Felton or DJ/May/Nazr for a good "big" center and play Mek at the 4, and take care of the rest through the draft or free agency. After seeing him play against Shaq last night, he shouldnt be playing center at all, he is just too little. Shaq was pushing him around like a rag doll. It was almost funny looking to me, but I can't laugh at my favorite team. :cool:

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I don't think it makes sense to trade Raymond. DJ is not playing that well, so I don't understand that rationale. Raymond has played steady. Last night he shot 50 percent from the field and had 9 assists, 5 steals, and 4 turnovers. I don't like the turnovers but at least he stole the ball 5 times. DJ has not been playing steady. I know he can but the last 3 games have not been his best.