Bobcats @ 76ers 3-27-09

[davcbow]

Well we can win this if we arent too hurt or too tired.... or too any other excuse we can think up....:cool:

Go Bobcats go......

[davcbow]

Possible links to the game.:cool:

http://www.atdhe.net/
or
http://www.channelsurfing.net

[gforce33]

any link??

[davcbow]

Game isnt 3 minutes old we have 3 TOs and and down 6-2....:cool:

[teej]

up 18-16 :D

[gforce33]

bell 2 to^-^

[ArcandiaS]

It's a nice start especially by Boris & Emeka. But others are playing well too.
LET'S GO CATS

[Ghost Kat]

Philly has more energy....The Bobcats aren't playin like they want to go to the playoffs

[ArcandiaS]

YEAH RAY!! Very nice shoot!

I disagree CarolinaKat, I don't think Sixers play so much better than the 'Cats.

[Ghost Kat]

It's a nice start especially by Boris

I dont know about that, Boris is playing pretty weak down low

[gforce33]

ATDnet
I did not hear any sound

[davcbow]

29-23 at the end of the 1st, can we hold on and keep it going?
Go Bobcats!!!!! :cool:

[Maal]

With the exception of Thad Young blowing by Radman.....
Dammit, do they not show these games in HD anymore?

[Ghost Kat]

Umm...It would be nice if the Ref's made some calls for us.

[davcbow]

If we could just clean up these TOs we would win a lot of games just in that area of play... Ray with 3 already, Bell and Howard with 2 each, Mek and Diaw with 1 each....:cool:

[Ghost Kat]

DJ once again seems to be the only one playin to win...I like his one long sock too

[Ghost Kat]

God no...Not Nazr :mad:

[teej]

Well, at least LB is going to his bench...cmon guys, lets win this!

[davcbow]

Its like LB wont play May unless he just has no other option... I hope to see the big guy play some tonight...:cool:

[gforce33]

what happen to gerald?

[bing!]

...too little, too late.

[Ghost Kat]

Good work Bobcats bench!!!!

[teej]

great half, lets keep our last chances at a playoff spot alive...like nazr's jersey!

[davcbow]

50-33 at the half, what do ya know? Good game for us so far...:cool:

[millst2]

We got this, the bench is contributing, starters get rest, should allow us to have the energy to make it down the stretch. As long as we dont get lazy and think it is won already.

[ohara831]

Have to admit I am pleasantly surprised so far. I really thought the Sixers had a lot to play for and we were in a swoon. But Charlotte looks sharp and Philly looks weak.

Bing, I also think it is too little too late. But with Detroit in a freefall also, we might still slip in. But gotta get 1 or the 2 tough ones coming up with either the Lakers or Celtics.

[BobcatinDC]

I thought the same thing (generally) at halftime of the Wiz game, but we look good tonight.

Detroit's in a tailspin; thus, I am reinvigorated with hope!

Go Bobs!

-DC

[davcbow]

Im not getting my hopes up, Philly isnt playing very well tonight, even the philly announcers are saying whats wrong with the 76ers tonight....:cool:

[teej]

Dang third quarters...

[davcbow]

We sliding already....:cool:

[millst2]

not bad,, atleast we didnt pull a washington and let them get to within 2 baskets

[teej]

lets just finish this one out guys...come on Boris! Gerald! Ray! Mek! Raja! DJ! Vladi!

[millst2]

fuck nazr,, put may in

[millst2]

here we go,, come on cats,, step it up. Ours to lose

[BETCATS]

ive been staying in the shadows but chose to appear now.

Hopefully we will win this. Ive seen too many leads blown in the past not to be slightly worried now.

But we wont blow this..

[davcbow]

Hang tough guys defense...damn felton another TO:cool:

[BETCATS]

random thought of the night - We need to give Nazr more minutes so he can produce more. He is one of those players that need to 'heat up' before he can produce. Put him in the oven and get him hot Larry (yes that was wrong, in so many ways).

[bing!]

Big tub of blubber, I'm in mood for some blubber; blubber, blubber, blubber!

Too much?

[Maal]

This is getting ridiculous....

[millst2]

Nazr needs to be traded. Worst acquisition yet. Way overpaid for his level of contribution.

[ArcandiaS]

Will the 'Cats take a large lead every game then let the other team come back and win???
It's really frustrating! It's nerving me!!

[millst2]

up by fukn 4 . How in the hell do we blow 2 games where we straight crush them early.

[BETCATS]

did i change the channel too soon?

[davcbow]

I cant tell if we are trying to win or lose this....:cool:

[millst2]

up by 6....
nm ,, up by 3

[millst2]

go felton.. fuk yea

pulled it out

[ArcandiaS]

Ok the end looks better but they have to keep the large lead to avoid such a money time!
GO CATS!! YOU CAN'T LOSE THIS ONE!!

[bing!]

Shooting below 70% from the free throw line is Cats' undoing. They need to improve on those numbers.

[millst2]

agree ,, 2 games up by 19-20 pts,, one we lose.. this one we let them come from down 19 to within 2.

whew

[ohara831]

Thought we were going to let another big lead slip away into a loss. That was too close for comfort!

[davcbow]

Good win, almost lost it but we played well enough to win it by 5...:cool:

[teej]

Well, they pulled it out, but that was wayyyyy too close for comfort. Raja still hasn't found his J, and our FT shooting SUCKS. We have Capel for a reason, ya know. Nice to see Nazzy, but where the heck was May?

But at least we won :biggrin:

[ArcandiaS]

Ok finally a good win, with a solid match from most of 'Cats.

[BETCATS]

Nazr needs to be traded. Worst acquisition yet. Way overpaid for his level of contribution. not true. He only plays terrible because like i said earlier, he cant do anything without playtime. We play him, he will produce for us.

[bing!]

not true. He only plays terrible because like i said earlier, he cant do anything without playtime. We play him, he will produce for us.
^ you say that and my mind immediately pictures a million monkeys and a million typewriters.

[BETCATS]

^ you say that and my mind immediately pictures a million monkeys and a million typewriters.

Touche


In case anyone wants to see your victory dance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbPushhqwe0

[millst2]

not true. He only plays terrible because like i said earlier, he cant do anything without playtime. We play him, he will produce for us.

Well with that thought process the same could be said about any of the bench players. Your favorite one; May, included.

I don't care who we play, we just have to make sure to go deep in the bench and find the players who are hot and can contribute. Me I would have rather seen May on the floor than Nazr. But that is just me.

The reason I said Nazr was overpaid is because he actually is, and it isn't a blind fact that we picked up a bad contract. Either way though as long as LB finally uses the damn bench I am happy. We were on track to let the starters wear out before the playoffs. We need the bench to allow the starters to rest so they can come back in with some energy and finish the games out. Unlike the game the other day in washington, where the old ass coach forgot he had a bench.

[BETCATS]

Well with that thought process the same could be said about any of the bench players. Your favorite one; May, included.

I don't care who we play, we just have to make sure to go deep in the bench and find the players who are hot and can contribute. Me I would have rather seen May on the floor than Nazr. But that is just me.

The reason I said Nazr was overpaid is because he actually is, and it isn't a blind fact that we picked up a bad contract. Either way though as long as LB finally uses the damn bench I am happy. We were on track to let the starters wear out before the playoffs. We need the bench to allow the starters to rest so they can come back in with some energy and finish the games out. Unlike the game the other day in washington, where the old ass coach forgot he had a bench.

Yeah, but lets be real: we play McMay for 25 minutes a game off the bench, we might get 10 points and 3 heart attacks. If we play Nazr, as he has shown in the past, 20 points and 4-5 rebounds are never going to be out of the question, because remember last year and this year, he was putting up those numbers WHEN WE GAVE HIM A CHANCE.

Then LB sort of benched him because he is not a LB player. LB knows what he is doing, and i will not hold this desision against him, but if he chose to use Nazr more, maybe complete disasters like tonight wouldnt happen and we would be happy with solid production from him

AND to all that says he will be a defensive libiality, JUST PUT DIOP IN. If we fused Diop's D with Nazr's offense we would have a great center. Those two together make one collective all star, in a kinky way.

[Marvel]

Good win tonight still won't get that 8th seed though

[millst2]

Are you serious???? May when healthy is a shitload better than Nazr.
It would take Nazr what 20 mins to score 7 points, and may the other night did it in 3mins along with 2 boards.

Nazr sucks, against Toronto on the 16th his stats he played 3 mins, 1to , 3 fouls and 2 points.

Compared to Mays last game against Indy 6mins, 3-3 fg, 2 boards , 1 block, 1 to and 7 points. and oh yeah :) Zero Heart Attacks.

It is safe to say May would out produce Nazr hands down, if he could stay healthy. There career mins played is right at the same ( 18.1 mins a game ) and 5 boards per game.

Nazrs best yr was in 2000-2001 ( his 4th yr in the league) he played 28mins a game and averaged 12 pts on 48% FG, 76% FT and 9 boards. Mays 2006-2007 limited season where he was 25mins a game roughly 12 pts, 50% FG, 60% 3pts, 76% FT, 6.7 boards.

These guys are similiar except the fact May is younger and if healthy can put up double doubles, or 30 points on the board like the 32 points he put up in dec 2006. The criticism on May is deserved due to the fact he got overweight. But he did have surgery and couldnt work out on his legs for months. But to say he sucks and cant play, please. The guy has great hands and can shoot the ball well. No doubt.

Plus May makes half of what Nazr makes. For the same if not worse productivity. So hence why I said his contract was bad. One can not bitch about May and applaud the shittiness of Nazr, when Nazr is paid twice as much as May and produces less.

[Ghost Kat]

In case anyone wants to see your victory dance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbPushhqwe0

Who painted Sean May purple?

That was a good win, almost gave another game away. One step closer though lets just hope the Pistons start losing some games

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Are people here seriously stupid enough to want Nazr to get more playing time?

[teej]

Are people here seriously stupid enough to want Nazr to get more playing time?

Last year he and gerald were the only ones to succeed in the FH system. Nazzy scored 20 pts twice...once off the bench.

When he plays, he does well. He just needs to be in a rythym.

And he beats the hell out of Diop right now.

[millst2]

All I am saying is I do not see Nazr being better than a healthy May. My attorney actually went to school with May and we was saying that he was weighing as much as he did his sophmore year at carolina. Then you get slapped with a surgery like that.

As I said previously, I can see people being upset. We were paying a couple million a year to play, yet he was injured and couldnt play. Hmm, Kind of like the whole Gilbert Arenas, Greg Oden shit, except well arenas makes an assload more. Arenas first injured his left knee 103 weeks ago, on April 4, 2007. Since then, including playoffs, he's missed 139 out of Washington's 156 games. He's played 17 games in two years. He's had three operations on his left knee, including a microfracture procedure. He's 27 years old. The Wizards gave him a contract last summer for $111 million.

Comeon, thats a huge hit right there. But I have faith and have seen May play and when he knocks the rust off the man can score and be a solid PF.

My whole argument was really that you have May if he can get healthy ( which I think he is there) and you have Nazr who is getting to the end of his career. I would take May anyday of the week. And I see May being here next year for half of Nazr's salary and us being 1 pg short ( nazzy, pg trade for a true C or another SG)

Tis all, I am not trying to get in a pissing contest but to me there is no contest of who I would have as coach and giving minutes to.

[teej]

But see my friend, that is why you are not the coach! And neither am I!

Nazzy is a center, May is a Forward. How the two are in a debate is beyond me . I was talking to Kat about why Nazzy getting PT isnt a bad idea...

[millst2]

But see my friend, that is why you are not the coach! And neither am I!

Nazzy is a center, May is a Forward. How the two are in a debate is beyond me . I was talking to Kat about why Nazzy getting PT isnt a bad idea...

That discussion stemmed from the convo between me and betcats where he stated

" Yeah, but lets be real: we play McMay for 25 minutes a game off the bench, we might get 10 points and 3 heart attacks. If we play Nazr, as he has shown in the past, 20 points and 4-5 rebounds are never going to be out of the question, because remember last year and this year, he was putting up those numbers WHEN WE GAVE HIM A CHANCE."

That's it, I was basically stating that one can't claim may is worse than nazzy when they are similar in stats and ones salary is twice as bad.

so it isn't stating that one is in or out of position in the comparison :)

really like you and I and keetch and betcats,, the one point i guess we all see is that LB has to go to the bench more. Could May and Nazr have double doubles if they had the playing time,,, Sure! But the issue is LB is running such a tight rotation that we want know~ all we will know is the starters will get no rest and we will lose more games after being up 19-20.

Simple really, get the starters a few mins rest and then let them keep some energy in reserve to come and finish the game. Not exhaust them then keep them out there to get slaughtered.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Nazr has been in the elague for a while, onloy 2 years or so ahs he averaged decent numbers. I don't see how you can expect him to now... and don't mention him doing good for 2 games last year because even Mcinnis had a few games where he passed as an NBA player.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

I will admit though, when we first recieved Nazr in the trade, he looked good...

4-6 games later and he has been terrible ever since. If I ahd to guess, he probably got excited about getting playing time (He mentioned that lots) and after that sort of went away due to him being on a losing team. Lost his ethusiasm or something. Regardless, with Mek and Diop (heck even Vlad is getting some run at C), we really dont have enough PT for him, and he's way too over paid to ride the bench here.

He might have 1-2 solid seasons elft as a backup to another team, but I cant imagine it happening here.

[teej]

He averaged almost 10 ppg last year, and he only started less than 2/3rds of the time.

His per 36 minutes stats were better than Mek offensively...I crunched those myself. Defense, not so much, but he is an effective player when given time/ He strted in ATL and did well there, and he started and did well here. Same in NYK, when he started he did well. He just can't come off the bench and be effective. Thats why I was shocked he wasnt starting at the beginning fo this season, but then again, I'm not the coach :p

As for May, he has a diet, and perhaps he went to the 7-11 pregame and LB caught him?? LOL

[millst2]

Nazr has had 2 years in his career that he as averaged double digit scoring.

2000-01 he played 25.6mins a game, 12 pts 9 boards per game at Atlanta
and
2004-1005 with the knicks 28 mins a game 10.9 pts 8 boards.

When he first came to the cats he played 23 minutes a game and 9 pts almost 7 boards. (07-08)

For his career ( 98-present ) he averages 18 minutes a game, 6.8 pts / 5 boards. Not worth 6 million a year :)

[teej]

He is only worth his salary when he starts...same with May and what the lakers thought with Vladi. But he could be so much more of a contributor than wasting away, he was better than anyone during training camp, he should have started with Mek as a 4-5 combo, but thats just me. Once we got Boris, he should have been the first big man in, but nope, not my call. I still think he's better than gana...

[millst2]

Damn you teej :)

it is to late for you to get me started on DIOP. We can save that for tomorrow,, but i guarantee we are on the same page on that one.