Psycho T , Ellington , Green.

[dav7z]

Your thoughts on all three of thease Carolina players who i feel is underated in this mock draft . Hansborough has droped below us in second round , Ellington has even deeper the end of the second round. Green is not even projected to be drafted .
I feel Brown should consider all three of thease guys at bargin basement deals.
Im not saying we should draft them but should at least take a look.
Your thoughts??????






http://www.realgm.com/src_feature/1436/20090211/2009_nba_mock_draft_version_10/

[G-Force for MVP]

No thanks on Tyler ordanny don't want them at all. Wayne could be a decent bench player

[GoBobs]

When you look at the way the 76ers have drafted in the last 4-5 years the team they put together without ever having the best picks is very impressive. A lot of guys are gonna go this year thinking it is going to be a weak draft. I trust LB to find the guys he wants in the second round.

With Tyler you are getting a very polished player. His bottom is like a reggie evens (who is a very productive player) and he could give us some minutes right away. He is going to bring a lot of toughness to whatever team he joins and he is going to put the ball in the basket a lot more than people think and at a much higher percentage. I am not saying he is gonna average 20 but you know he is gonna get a few offensive rebounds and take smart shots. It is hard to imagine him not getting 12.
I like green a little better then W.E. b/c of his d. The bobcats are a team built on d and anyone that can add to that is a plus. I just think green has a little more upside being so athletic.

[BETCATS]

I would like both Green and Ellington, both will be valuble contributors. We should draft both of them and trade our first round pick + Nazr to Golden State for J-Creezy and Brandon Wright.

I would enjoy that, too bad it wont happen

[SWedd523]

Hansbrough would be a nice pickup late in the draft. He could potentially be our new Duds--works hard and solid contributor, but a little limited.

Green is a do-it-all type of guy that doesn't really excel at any one part of the game. He'd be great in a uptempo system, but not really in ours.

Wayne Ellington is silky smoooooooooooooth. His jumper is BEAUTIFUL. I've always liked the way he plays and how he's developed. In his freshman year he was nothing but a spot up shooter. Sophomore year he learned to dribble and create his own outside shot. This year I see him taking it to the hole and leading the break and I seriously see an NBA player in him.

I'm amazed at how low he is on people's boards. He's going to be a very solid NBA player

[dav7z]

Hansbrough would be a nice pickup late in the draft. He could potentially be our new Duds--works hard and solid contributor, but a little limited.

Green is a do-it-all type of guy that doesn't really excel at any one part of the game. He'd be great in a uptempo system, but not really in ours.

Wayne Ellington is silky smoooooooooooooth. His jumper is BEAUTIFUL. I've always liked the way he plays and how he's developed. In his freshman year he was nothing but a spot up shooter. Sophomore year he learned to dribble and create his own outside shot. This year I see him taking it to the hole and leading the break and I seriously see an NBA player in him.

I'm amazed at how low he is on people's boards. He's going to be a very solid NBA player

All im saying is a undrafted Green is worth taking a look at . Like some one else said he is a very nice defender can rebound for his position and has up side . Not much to lose undrafted.
Ellington is being over looked . He has expanded his game and could be the best Carolina player on the board this year. I would have thought hes a late first rounder . Late second round he could be a steal . Hes being over looked.
Physco T as a second round pick is worth at least a look.
It s not like it's high risk moves only high reward. As all seem to be at best 2nd round picks at best.

[Mr Guy]

Danny Green is more like Dudley than Tyler is, with a ton less downside. All three of them are going to give some team solid bench production right off the bat, with Wayne probably moving into some teams starting line up in a couple years. Danny will move back into that perennial 6th man role he rocked for his first three years of school. Tyler will be someone that plays lights out for eight minute stretches while a starter gets a rest and instantly boost some team's bench production.

I'd drool for either of them coming off the bench in Brown's system. Wayne I love, but we just don't need him. Tyler has the potential to become a lock down defender, and Danny is already close. Oddly, Tyler is a MUCH better perimeter defender than he is close to the paint. Tyler off the bench would be an amazing 3/4 for us, particularly if Ajinca takes a while to mature. Danny would REALLY help in those end game lineups to go small and spread the floor without trading shot blocking and defense.

Most importantly, if we put Tyler and Danny against the bench of almost any team in the East, maybe we'd frigging get the to the free throw line once in a while.

[SWedd523]

Danny Green is more like Dudley than Tyler is, with a ton less downside. All three of them are going to give some team solid bench production right off the bat, with Wayne probably moving into some teams starting line up in a couple years. Danny will move back into that perennial 6th man role he rocked for his first three years of school. Tyler will be someone that plays lights out for eight minute stretches while a starter gets a rest and instantly boost some team's bench production.

I'd drool for either of them coming off the bench in Brown's system. Wayne I love, but we just don't need him. Tyler has the potential to become a lock down defender, and Danny is already close. Oddly, Tyler is a MUCH better perimeter defender than he is close to the paint. Tyler off the bench would be an amazing 3/4 for us, particularly if Ajinca takes a while to mature. Danny would REALLY help in those end game lineups to go small and spread the floor without trading shot blocking and defense.

Most importantly, if we put Tyler and Danny against the bench of almost any team in the East, maybe we'd frigging get the to the free throw line once in a while.

The comparison to Dudley is based on their positions. Green wouldn't be much more than a more controlled Shannon Brown.

I don't understand why we don't need Wayne. One of our biggest holes is the SG spot, and we could always use a solid 3point shooter.

One of Hansbrough's biggest weaknesses is his perimeter defense. I've watched the majority of the games he's played as a Tar Heel and I've always looked at him as a subpar perimeter defender. You'll see him get crossed by all of the people at his position with even a semblance of ball handling ability.


I stand firm. Of those three, we want Ellington. We don't need Hansbrough or Green, but I'd take them in the second round if we didn't have many other options

[teej]

After watching Wayne in the Final Four (where he was named Playor Of, BTW), I don't see how he wouldn't be a gift to us at the late lottery. He has been way undervalued, he was all-tournament, all-ACC, 20ppg, great shooting touch, and a great guy. But hey, I don't mind his stock being low as long as we can still get him, but I see it rising. Maybe we get him at out lottery pick?

[SWedd523]

After watching Wayne in the Final Four (where he was named Playor Of, BTW), I don't see how he wouldn't be a gift to us at the late lottery. He has been way undervalued, he was all-tournament, all-ACC, 20ppg, great shooting touch, and a great guy. But hey, I don't mind his stock being low as long as we can still get him, but I see it rising. Maybe we get him at out lottery pick?
He's not necessarily a lottery level hype guy. But I'd love to see him in the late first round as he's definitely skilled.

I'm glad to see somebody else finally noticing how talented this kid is. He'd be great in our team system taking shots from outside and playing smart team defense

[Marvel]

Hansbrough would be a nice pickup late in the draft. He could potentially be our new Duds--works hard and solid contributor, but a little limited.

Green is a do-it-all type of guy that doesn't really excel at any one part of the game. He'd be great in a uptempo system, but not really in ours.

Wayne Ellington is silky smoooooooooooooth. His jumper is BEAUTIFUL. I've always liked the way he plays and how he's developed. In his freshman year he was nothing but a spot up shooter. Sophomore year he learned to dribble and create his own outside shot. This year I see him taking it to the hole and leading the break and I seriously see an NBA player in him.

I'm amazed at how low he is on people's boards. He's going to be a very solid NBA player


My thoughts exactly on Ellington,he needs good coaching and LB can definitely give him that.

[Ghost Kat]

Danny Green would be a nice pick up in the second round. He's a good defensive player and has a nice shot. Tyler, I really don't want another Sean May but I like Tyler. I think he would be a good late pick or second rounder but I doubt he'll drop that far. Why is he not projected higher?

[GoBobs]

Tyler will work very hard at all the little things like setting screens. He is one of the players most able to help a club right away because his all around game is very polished. If he goes anywhere after the middle of the first round he will be the steal of this draft. Also if you have other big guys who don't need to play around the basket, i.e. Ajinca and Diaw Tyler will be able to eat small forwards and some power forwards up in the post.

[LB4President]

I would take Danny Green with our second rounder. He has all the tools to be a solid perimeter defender. He just needs to get some consistency on that jumpshot, but he is the hardnosed type player Brown would love. Ellington isn't too shabby either and forget Hansbrough. He will be a decent player, but he adds nothing to this team. We don't need to pair an undersized center with an undersized 4.

[SWedd523]

I would take Danny Green with our second rounder. He has all the tools to be a solid perimeter defender. He just needs to get some consistency on that jumpshot, but he is the hardnosed type player Brown would love. Ellington isn't too shabby either and forget Hansbrough. He will be a decent player, but he adds nothing to this team. We don't need to pair an undersized center with an undersized 4.
Ellington is BY FAR the best out of the three. Some mocks even have him being a late lottery or fringe lottery selection. He's that good

[teej]

Ellington is BY FAR the best out of the three. Some mocks even have him being a late lottery or fringe lottery selection. He's that good

If he's going that high, then I suggest we grab him, or trade down to grab him. Get some future picks.

[SWedd523]

If he's going that high, then I suggest we grab him, or trade down to grab him. Get some future picks.
I have serious faith that this kid will be solid in the NBA. He's about even with Gerald Henderson to me. Gerald has him on the defensive side, but Ellington has him on the offensive side. Both are great teammates and play the right way so you really couldn't go wrong with either one..

[GoBobs]

I have a hard time believing Tyler could not be a much more effective player then Big Bay Davis. I am starting to think he is going to be the steal of the draft.

[BRNC]

DX finished their evaluations of the SF...Green really does look like a "steal" in the second round...looks to be a great sixth man which IMO is not too shabby for a second round pick...

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Just-By-the-Numbers-This-Years-Small-Forward-Crop-3270/

[SWedd523]

DX finished their evaluations of the SF...Green really does look like a "steal" in the second round...looks to be a great sixth man which IMO is not too shabby for a second round pick...

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Just-By-the-Numbers-This-Years-Small-Forward-Crop-3270/
All of the group comparisons I've seen of the players, Danny Green is always at/near the top of the list. He's going to be a major steal in the second round, and I'm back to my word that I want to draft him with our first second rounder if he drops that far

[BRNC]

It is hard for me to fathom how most "mocks" have him falling after our first second...I can't believe we would not draft him if he's there...but you never know with our FO...

[ohara831]

In Ford's mock this afternoon, he has us taking
#12 T-Will - Louisville
#40 Ellington - UNC
#54 AJ Price - PG from UConn

That would be 3 very solid picks and good value for where we land them.

[BRNC]

I'd skip on Price (some medical concerns) and I'd have to take Green over Ellington...but that's me...

[SWedd523]

I'd skip on Price (some medical concerns) and I'd have to take Green over Ellington...but that's me...
No.



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[BRNC]

You'd take Ellington over Green or Price's knees don't concern you or both?

[SWedd523]

You'd take Ellington over Green or Price's knees don't concern you or both?
Ellington > Green

[ohara831]

Ellington > Green


For the record, Ford has Green going #39 to Detroit, one pick ahead of Charlotte taking Ellington at #40.

[BRNC]

Ellington is a better shooter...if we take T-Will or Hendo with the first I'd rather have Green for his "D" at SG or SF...I see Ellington being more limited as a role player...I think they're both good players and would not pass either with #40...but if both are there I'd take Green...

[SWedd523]

Ellington is a better shooter...if we take T-Will or Hendo with the first I'd rather have Green for his "D" at SG or SF...I see Ellington being more limited as a role player...I think they're both good players and would not pass either with #40...but if both are there I'd take Green...
We need outside shooting. TWill is improving but he's not one of the two best shooters in the draft (Curry and Ellington). Our team has enough athletes, we need skilled role players that can come in and do their job. A great outside shooter in Ellington would be amazing here.

And I'm staying on my point that Ellington is being severely undervalued. He didn't have to do much work because he played on a great team, but he stepped up when he needed to and was indispensable for the Tar Heels last year.

[BRNC]

If you just want a shooter here (both are available) then I agree Ellington...if you want versatility then Green...

[SWedd523]

If you just want a shooter here (both are available) then I agree Ellington...if you want versatility then Green...
How much PT would he get though? He's a lesser TWill so he'd be buried on the bench. Ellington would be more useful for us providing we take TWill

[LiquidWayno]

Big fan of Ellington and Green both, but drafting either of them in the second would depend on who we take at #12. If Terrance Williams is our boy at 12 (as I hope happens), Green's skill set would not really be needed, and Ellington would be a steal at 40. Dionte Christmas would as well. Henderson and Ellington are basically polar opposites of each other in terms of what they would bring, I don't like the idea of bringing them in together though. Dante Cunningham could be an interesting second round pick, seems like LB's kind of guy for sure.

[BRNC]

How much PT would he get though? He's a lesser TWill so he'd be buried on the bench. Ellington would be more useful for us providing we take TWill

Solid point Swedd...but I see Green as a back up for 2 or 3 so I think he'd get his minutes...on I can only see as a 2 back up and only in a shooter role...not a huge fan of his "D"...but Green has a good TS% so it is not like he's a "slob" at shooting...and as I said...I see him as more versatile...

[SWedd523]

Solid point Swedd...but I see Green as a back up for 2 or 3 so I think he'd get his minutes...on I can only see as a 2 back up and only in a shooter role...not a huge fan of his "D"...but Green has a good TS% so it is not like he's a "slob" at shooting...and as I said...I see him as more versatile...
It really depends on which direction we go.

If we take Henderson, I'd rather us take Green. Those two would work better together since one is a pure 2 and the other is versatile.

If we take Williams, I'd rather go with Ellington. for the same reason as ^. That would keep us from duplicating talent.

Nahhhh mean?!

[BRNC]

That's the way I'd go to...the first pick would dictate the second for me and I like your match-ups...