Please hold the accolades for LB

[TOOT DADDY]

Unlike most of you guys I will give Larrry Brown credit when he gets this team playing over .500 basketball. We won pretty much the same amount of games with a bunch of misfits and horrible coaching. So did the last regime over achieve or has this regime underachieved? The games we dropped to lottery teams in a crucial playoff hunt says we are a lottery team just like the past four years. 41-40 gives you a winning season 40-41 gives you a losing one. That being said once again we lost more than we won. "I see the potential!" I saw potential in wizards when they beat us. Frustrating!

[spectre]

We're 27-25 after the Phoenix trade and from where I sit that record over the entire season would have us fighting for the 4th/5th seed. That also includes the time without Crash & Bell...about 9-10 games.

Don't see how you can legitimately fault LB for what was here before he came on.

[Slam]

Some people have short memories.

[LB4President]

It is not all about wins and losses (unless we are talking about the playoffs). We have significantly improved as a basketball team. I read yesterday that we are six games above .500 since aquiring Radmanovic. While our record shows we have no real improvement, that is only because Brown broke the team down costing us games early in the season. Now he has built his team from the floor up and we are going to be smoking next season. BTW I am abandoning ship on this season after the loss to Boston. Great season bobcats, but I think we are out of the hunt.

[spectre]

BTW I am abandoning ship on this season after the loss to Boston. Great season bobcats, but I think we are out of the hunt.:hypo:

We're TWO games from 7th place and the team in 8th has 3 starters fighting injury!

To each his own I guess.

[TattoodCats4life]

Next season 52-30...4th seed...

This will haunt me :)

[bing!]

BTW I am abandoning ship on this season after the loss to Boston. Great season bobcats, but I think we are out of the hunt.
^ spoken like a true fan.

This season is Larry's first step he's making in the Cats household, and a mighty big one at that seeing as they're clawing their way into the playoffs for the first time in five years. Hold the accolades (!?), I beg to differ.


Next season 52-30...4th seed...
^ nah, I reckon they'll reach 43~46 wins, unless a surprising trade or signing comes our way.

[BigMike]

The thing about this season was that horrid start we got off to, compounded by days like Dec 11 and 12 2008 when we had to send out JRich and Dudly on Wednesday but didn’t get Diaw and Bell into the line up till Saturday. We dropped those 2 games and were playing crazy shorthanded and with low talent. These are the things that go beyond standard "any given day" type stuff. The fact that with all of these movements we are still 9 of 16 in the East and 18 of 32 over all amazes me.

That being said, LB coming into a team that was in a position to be a laughing stock, and with player trades and a new system has turned us into a team that everyone honestly expects to be a playoff contender next year.

Sure we lost to the Wizards, but do you know who else has lost to the Wizards? The Bulls, The Pistons, The Rockets and WTF The Cavs!! (Jan 4, 2009). Don’t judge LB on our record, judge him on our growth.




GO CATS!

[BIGCatBobcat]

As I've said before, it's not all wins/losses or stats or anything. You watch the team and what do you think? Better than last year. By a mile. Now if you want to talk wins/losses, We took a step back last year, losing more games than the year before. We have all pretty much agreed that we're talking about the same roster, different, horrible, worst ever coach in the history of the NBA. That was the difference and in March/April, those wins came in spite of him when the players had finally tuned him out.

LB's influence can not simply be seen in wins and losses, it's the whole team. He's come in and overhauled the roster. I was freaking out at the early signings and trades and even taking DJ and Alexis rather than what we all have talked about. You can't say "oh i won't give him props until we're over .500," (by the way in the NBA they play 82 games so your 40-41 or 41-40 argument doesn't make a whole lot of sense but i get what you're saying kind of). He's turned the team inside out, broke down Ray, broke down Okafor and benched Sean May. We have already surpassed the best record we've ever had and we're 1.5 out of the playoffs with 7 games left. Coming off a double overtime-last second loss/screw job to the World Champion Celtics and a very solid home win against the runner up and current 2nd best record in the league, Lakers.

I appreciate you asking nicely but I'm going to heap praise all I damn well please. ILBIT!!!

[Mustachio]

if you can't see it. you weren't watching.

[Keetch]

I think Larry Brown is one helluva coach.

Oh shit, there went an accolade.

[TOOT DADDY]

Me too at times i think Larry Brown is a hell of a coach and so does nine different organizations. Toast to another lottery ball. Make all the excuses you want but bottom line we have one win more than last year. If you want to compare the Rockets etc. take in account the players those teams had missing for periods of time. Hell we lost to a team that had seven players dressed. Anyway, we'll see next year. By the way what was the reasoning for not playing D.J. or Radmonavich not even thirty seconds in a double overtime game?

[teej]

Me too at times i think Larry Brown is a hell of a coach and so does nine different organizations. Toast to another lottery ball. Make all the excuses you want but bottom line we have one win more than last year. If you want to compare the Rockets etc. take in account the players those teams had missing for periods of time. Hell we lost to a team that had seven players dressed. Anyway, we'll see next year. By the way what was the reasoning for not playing D.J. or Radmonavich not even thirty seconds in a double overtime game?

His in game strategy may not be the best, but you cannot deny tat he has this team playing better ball than did the Fine Ham Biscuit...

I think somewhere like 20 games of our have been within 5 points, and we could very, very easily be in the 7th or even 6th seed right now had a few things gone our way. Last year, with the exception of the winning streak that was an abberation, not much went right. We were blown out, we ran Carroll and Wallace at point, and started McInnis...do you want that back?

If LB isn't your coach, thats great, but if you want to deny him the recognition he deserves for totally turning around the mess FHB left us with, then you can go be Sam's assistant in Anaheim...he needs the help:biggrin:

[BETCATS]

Unlike most of you guys I will give Larrry Brown credit when he gets this team playing over .500 basketball. We won pretty much the same amount of games with a bunch of misfits and horrible coaching. So did the last regime over achieve or has this regime underachieved? The games we dropped to lottery teams in a crucial playoff hunt says we are a lottery team just like the past four years. 41-40 gives you a winning season 40-41 gives you a losing one. That being said once again we lost more than we won. "I see the potential!" I saw potential in wizards when they beat us. Frustrating!


Blind people should not be attempting to post here, i value your opinion BUT WATCH US PLAY AND COMPARE IT TO FHB MADNESS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIyr5TXqe8Y&feature=related

[BIGCatBobcat]

We were blown out, we ran Carroll and Wallace at point, and started McInnis...do you want that back?

:

I just threw up all over my desk. The name Jeff McInnis hasn't crossed my mind in months. I've never been more pissed in my life. That game or two where Ray and Jeff were hurt and we hadn't signed Earl Boykins, yeah we had to run Wallace and Dudley and try to get Matt to be a bit coordinated but it just wouldnt work.

[TOOT DADDY]

Blind people should not be attempting to post here, i value your opinion BUT WATCH US PLAY AND COMPARE IT TO FHB MADNESS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIyr5TXqe8Y&feature=related


I may be a little blind in my left eye from the toot but my right eye works fine and I see a lottery team that shouldn't be and us not making the playoffs just like the past four years and HELL TO THE NAW i'm not going to watch Sam. So what we lost by 5 or 6 points here or there a lost is a lost by 5 or 50 that in itself should let you know maybe if we didn't run our starters in the ground cold or hot maybe we would have won some of those games. (Singing!) I can see clearly now the playoffs goneeeee, I can see Larry Brown using minutes wrongggggg

[spectre]

I may be a little blind in my left eye from the toot

Case solved.

BTW, that's not your left eye...

[TOOT DADDY]

Case not solved. LMAO Why do I get red squares.

[teej]

Case not solved. LMAO Why do I get red squares.

Because people disagree with you and give you negative rep :biggrin:

I really don't see how anyone can deny LB credit for this turnaround, though...or even deny that there was a turnaround

[BETCATS]

I may be a little blind in my left eye from the toot but my right eye works fine and I see a lottery team that shouldn't be and us not making the playoffs just like the past four years and HELL TO THE NAW i'm not going to watch Sam. So what we lost by 5 or 6 points here or there a lost is a lost by 5 or 50 that in itself should let you know maybe if we didn't run our starters in the ground cold or hot maybe we would have won some of those games. (Singing!) I can see clearly now the playoffs goneeeee, I can see Larry Brown using minutes wrongggggg


Do you not believe in the evolution of a team?
This isnt Darwinism, its not controversial. THIS IS FACT.
Nobody is born a man, we need to work up by taking baby steps. I dont think anyone expected us to get the 8th this year as much as a general improvement in our playing style, and we got that. Wins and loses dont matter as much as what we achived this season: a change in culture. We now believe we can win, and it is a turning point for us. If you cant see that, you are as i j/kingly said earlier 'blind'

[Ampsportsduo]

First off, watch out for the Left Eye, it'll burn your house down.

Second, Less than half of this roster was together for training camp meaning adjustments were constantly being made to fit personnel.

Judging critically when a team has broken its franchise win mark and done so with so many new pieces seems ridiculous to me. To each his own, just be ready to have the you guys were right post ready for this time next year.

[TOOT DADDY]

Well I didn't follow the team last year but when you guys drafted my favorite player I became a fan enough to order the nba package to watch all the games and I haven't missed one. So I guess I give an on the surface outlook and on the surface lottery team, more losses than wins, and not making the playoffs with bad in game management. Thats all facts especially when the coach himself says he should have did this or that see (I should have communicated to them to commit a foul last night). Give me my green back people.

[BETCATS]

Well I didn't follow the team last year but when you guys drafted my favorite player I became a fan enough to order the nba package to watch all the games and I haven't missed one. So I guess I give an on the surface outlook and on the surface lottery team, more losses than wins, and not making the playoffs with bad in game management. Thats all facts especially when the coach himself says he should have did this or that see (I should have communicated to them to commit a foul last night). Give me my green back people.

i am just wondering what made you feel the assertion to make this thread if you didnt follow the Cats last year.

my disclaimer
I am not trying to demoralize you as a man, i did not give you negative rep for this post, i am just wondering: how do you think you are fit to judge our progress if you dont know the full extent of what we are progressing from.

I might not have been a member here last year, but i have been a die-hard fan since day 1 of this team, and let me inform you: we were about 70x worse. Just let us progress. I also realized about 4-5 days ago we have a bleak chance of making the playoffs, but dont say that the season is a failure because we didnt make it, we are still learning.

[TOOT DADDY]

Same roster next year? Hope not. True max potential without any additions is what? Next year guys won't have to tell me anything if he does a kick azz job. I'll be the first to applaud no applause for a sub .500 team. I'm from a winning culture. I will pat lb on the back and give him the old "We'll get'em next year" spill and share some of the finest with him and sit and listen to him and herbs stories about . I am a bobcats fan though don't get me wrong.

[bing!]

@toot - your view on success/failure is way too polarised.

[TOOT DADDY]

I thought success in sports was measured by wins and losses. Again I didn't just flat out deem this season a failure but I am not by any stretch of the imagination ready to crown Larry Brown like he is king almighty hell his decision making in several key situations cost us at least six games. Is he a good coach? Yes! Has he improved this team? Yes How many more games have they won versus last year? 1 So I give him minimal praise. You want to crown him? Crown his azz! Im not

[teej]

Toot...do you view D'antoni's job this year with the Knicks as a failure because he is next to last in the standings, or is that different?

Do you view Obama's presidency as a failure because he hasn't fixed the world (whether he will or not is irrelevant to this topic)?

Do you view the stimulus package as a failure because we arent out of the recession yet?

seriously...

[TOOT DADDY]

Toot...do you view D'antoni's job this year with the Knicks as a failure because he is next to last in the standings, or is that different?

Do you view Obama's presidency as a failure because he hasn't fixed the world (whether he will or not is irrelevant to this topic)?

Do you view the stimulus package as a failure because we arent out of the recession yet?

seriously...
Its not a success so i'm not crowning their azzes either. The jury is still out just like with LB that's my reason for saying hold the accolades. Twenty people out of a hundred three people got laid off at my job. So if i believe in the stimulus or not it's damn sure isn't worthy of me calling Obama and telling him he is the best ever because he hasn't done sh#t better than the lst regime the record still reads the same. F#cked!

[SWedd523]

I don't understand how you CANNOT praise Larry Brown for the job he's done thus far. He's been the mastermind behind the transformation the Bobcats have gone through. Any other coach would not have done what he is willing to do to put a winning product on the floor.

Without LB, our team would (most likely) be largely what it was last year, and quite possibly without DJ Augustin.

Without LB, we wouldn't have Bell, Diaw, Vlad, Diop, and the others. Our success came when he was willing to go off the wall and make trades that he knew would make us better.

Without LB, we'd still have The Biscuit--it would definitely not lead our team as well as LB has.

Without LB, we wouldn't have the most wins in our fledgling franchise's history. He's the key. He's the reason why we're in the position we are right now.


I don't understand how you can expect the Bobcats to go out and win a shitload of games this year when they've done nothing by be mediocre. No team (short of the Celtics) just turns it around like that and becomes Champions. Your expectations are way too high.

Be happy that LB is here and helping our team make progress to the ultimate goal. One small step for man, One giant leap for Bobcat-kind...

[Muttley]

Just to clarify, do you mean to hold our accolades for LB aloft, you know, so everyone can see them? Or do you mean, like, hold onto them until we meet LB face-to-face so we can thank him in person?

[teej]

Just to clarify, do you mean to hold our accolades for LB aloft, you know, so everyone can see them? Or do you mean, like, hold onto them until we meet LB face-to-face so we can thank him in person?

LMFAO :biggrin:

+1

[Ghost Kat]

LB made this a winning franchise no matter what our record right now is....The fans that have been here since day one two three does't matter, We all see that this is a new day in Bobcats land.

[millst2]

[quote=teej;123490]Toot...do you view D'antoni's job this year with the Knicks as a failure because he is next to last in the standings, or is that different? Knicks got rid of Stephan DivaBury = SUCCESS:p

Do you view Obama's presidency as a failure because he hasn't fixed the world (whether he will or not is irrelevant to this topic)? Big Government = Fail :confused: Having the governements hands in big business is bad, new deal, new new deal etc,, History always repeats itself. Govt can't run the post office profitably, amtrak profitably and even 99% of govt agencies correctly. So on track to Fail :hypo:

Do you view the stimulus package as a failure because we arent out of the recession yet? My company isn't getting a bailout due to the slumping economy, stimulus quite possibly a big failure, considering the majority of the jobs and effects would not even be felt until a natural correction would have happened anyways.:g:

seriously... YES.

Now back to LB, I do not think that he has failed I think he has done a lot of good for the bobcats and next year will be the real testament to that. If we had the same squad at the first of the season as we did after the break we would be a 4-5 seed. Now do not get me wrong, I think he places the game winners in the wrong people hands, as much as I like felts he isnt the go to guy in a crunch. Someone revealed his stats over the past 3 games and he was like 15/50-52 from the field. Horrible.

But again, even if we do not make the playoffs this year, we are one trade from a solid solid contender. If the squad we have now can knock off the lakers on the road and at home, force the current champs to a double ot loss by 2, and knock off the majority of other teams,, we are there.

LB will put the last 2 pieces together in the offseason and we will be in the playoffs without a doubt next season. Watch. Theres a reason he has kept our roster with 10 days,, easier to move on the trade blocks.

Does make me wonder what he is thinking though. We have 2 -10days and all we have to trade is Okafor, Wallace, Bell, Diaw etc. So who is the 1 we trade for 2??

Damn I love the offseason, coming in here and talking about trades. All the highs , the oh shits and the love. Carrol is gone, BK is gone, Brezec is gone. Is it Felts time or ohhhhhhhh the anticipation, it will only make us better. Woot

[Ghost Kat]

Obama & LB should have their faces on Mt. Rushmore :p

[millst2]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Keep drinking the kool aid ;)

Not trying to turn this into a political thread, to each their own, some peoples finances,backgrounds and beliefs allow them to be effected moreso than others,, I was simply responding to the questions in Teej's
post. Again Not bashing the Messiah or his followers :)

[teej]

the Messiah or his followers :)

When was Obama the Messiah? :o

He has done some amazing things by getting into office, and I hope for this country's sake he will continue to do amazing things in office, however he has no free passes, and I am reserving judgment on him until I see his body of work.

As far as this topic, LB has no free passes either, and he had a negative connotation coming into the job because of his body of work in New York. He has done amazing things, and he will continue to do so, or so we all hope. Just dont let him get Alzheimers :p

[millst2]

Again, lets not let this thread turn into a Political Bashing thread. I never said he has not accomplished anything by being elected, but one does not need to see the Body of his work when the Preface is so Obvious.

I think LB just needs to coach the last 2-3 minutes of the game the way he coaches all previous minutes. We seem to lose more games in the opening moments of the third quarter and the last 2-3 minutes of the 4th. LB needs to devise some game plans to get some buckets. It is awful to be up 15-20 and let it get ate up in the 3d. Are be up by 5-7 then let them get it all back and the win in the final 2 mins. He needs to slam the gauntlet down and make something happen. Games will only get tougher from here on out with the playoff contenders.

[davcbow]

Same roster next year? Hope not. True max potential without any additions is what? Next year guys won't have to tell me anything if he does a kick azz job. I'll be the first to applaud no applause for a sub .500 team. I'm from a winning culture. I will pat lb on the back and give him the old "We'll get'em next year" spill and share some of the finest with him and sit and listen to him and herbs stories about . I am a bobcats fan though don't get me wrong.

Just what the heck makes you an almighty expert and everyone else wrong? You havent posted anything that sounds like you know this team any better than any other team you may have seen.... :cool:

[TOOT DADDY]

Didn't say I was an expert but I have not missed one regular season game. Two or three preseason games. We have even flown to Charlotte from Texas to watch a weekend of games. So my views are backed by what I have seen EVERY game not heard or read. Like I said i'll pat LB on the back and say get'em next year. Good job not great. A below .500 record doesn't flatter me. Every team has had it's problems with key players missing several games. I stand by what I said and if you guys don't see it maybe you haven't watched EVERY game like me. Larry Brown cost us at least six games being stubborn not pulling starters and sitting down players on a role. I guess none of you have seen that this season. So like I said good job but nothing great.:rolleyes:

[SWedd523]

Didn't say I was an expert but I have not missed one regular season game. Two or three preseason games. We have even flown to Charlotte from Texas to watch a weekend of games. So my views are backed by what I have seen EVERY game not heard or read. Like I said i'll pat LB on the back and say get'em next year. Good job not great. A below .500 record doesn't flatter me. Every team has had it's problems with key players missing several games. I stand by what I said and if you guys don't see it maybe you haven't watched EVERY game like me. Larry Brown cost us at least six games being stubborn not pulling starters and sitting down players on a role. I guess none of you have seen that this season. So like I said good job but nothing great.:rolleyes:
I guess you haven't seen the first four years of the Bobcats' existence to realize that what we're doing this year is a monumental success and a huge step forward for our franchise? You can't seriously base your opinions on one year of work?:rolleyes:

[teej]

Didn't say I was an expert but I have not missed one regular season game. Two or three preseason games. We have even flown to Charlotte from Texas to watch a weekend of games. So my views are backed by what I have seen EVERY game not heard or read. Like I said i'll pat LB on the back and say get'em next year. Good job not great. A below .500 record doesn't flatter me. Every team has had it's problems with key players missing several games. I stand by what I said and if you guys don't see it maybe you haven't watched EVERY game like me. Larry Brown cost us at least six games being stubborn not pulling starters and sitting down players on a role. I guess none of you have seen that this season. So like I said good job but nothing great.:rolleyes:

We never said he was the best in-game strategist, but that doesnt require us to withhold accolades for the tremendous job he has done. I fail to see how 6, hell I'll give you ten games of him making coaching miscues that COULD have saved us the game makes this season a failure if we get back into the lottery. Sam Vincent left us in disarray, and Larry Brown has done what no other coach could have or wanted to (with the exception of Paul Silas) do, and thats fix it, The Right Way.

I'm glad to see that we've brought you out here, DJ is a great guy to follow, and hopefully h will be here for years to come, but perhaps your bias towards him lends to your views on Larry's strategy?

[TOOT DADDY]

I can start with D.J. but it goes beyond that like not playing Howard against the Wizards for example. Four crying out loud we lost to a team with eight players dressed. Now if you checked the records im sure that may be something monumental. Bottom line for all LB has done it equals one more win than last year. Can we agree on that?:g:

[teej]

I can start with D.J. but it goes beyond that like not playing Howard against the Wizards for example. Four crying out loud we lost to a team with eight players dressed. Now if you checked the records im sure that may be something monumental. Bottom line for all LB has done it equals one more win than last year. Can we agree on that?:g:

We still have 7 games left...all of them winnable...

If numbers were all that mattered, we wouldnt have hired LB because he couldnt coach anymore based on his job in New York, right Toot? Or we wouldn't have drafted DJ because we already had a PG, right?

[TheBeagle]

I can start with D.J. but it goes beyond that like not playing Howard against the Wizards for example. Four crying out loud we lost to a team with eight players dressed. Now if you checked the records im sure that may be something monumental. Bottom line for all LB has done it equals one more win than last year. Can we agree on that?:g: Last season's win total was 32; this season's win total (with 7 games remaining) is 34. I was an English major, and math isn't my strong suit, but 32 from 34 is 2, not 1. So, out of basic mathematical principles, I can't agree with you on this or your argument Larry hasn't done a great job this year. If you had been with us since Year One and the days of Jahidi White, Tamar Slay, Kevin Burleson and C-SET all the way to Year 4 and the utter ineptitude of SamHam, you'd understand how special this season has been, regardless of finishing with 41+ wins, which you have a unique fixation on.

You're obviously entitled to your opinions, but I think you lack the context and facts to validate your argument.....or something like that ;)

[davcbow]

Didn't say I was an expert but I have not missed one regular season game. Two or three preseason games. We have even flown to Charlotte from Texas to watch a weekend of games. So my views are backed by what I have seen EVERY game not heard or read. Like I said i'll pat LB on the back and say get'em next year. Good job not great. A below .500 record doesn't flatter me. Every team has had it's problems with key players missing several games. I stand by what I said and if you guys don't see it maybe you haven't watched EVERY game like me. Larry Brown cost us at least six games being stubborn not pulling starters and sitting down players on a role. I guess none of you have seen that this season. So like I said good job but nothing great.:rolleyes:

Well since you are so hard core on a old coach with a new team that is in disarray from the previous coach (ham biscuit), with entirely too many wing players, a scorer that hit shots no better than DJ does now, weak at the point and weak at backup center, and no true power forward (did I miss anything?); get the picture? So tell us what would you have done any different? Sure maybe call a few plays differnt and not left it to Felton to shoot the last shot. What would you do different? :cool:

[TOOT DADDY]

Well since you are so hard core on a old coach with a new team that is in disarray from the previous coach (ham biscuit), with entirely too many wing players, a scorer that hit shots no better than DJ does now, weak at the point and weak at backup center, and no true power forward (did I miss anything?); get the picture? So tell us what would you have done any different? Sure maybe call a few plays differnt and not left it to Felton to shoot the last shot. What would you do different? :cool:
Thanks for helping get my point across a team with all those shortcomings basically had the same record. Won two games less (Thanks for the correction) with way less.:rolleyes:

[bing!]

^ there are still seven games to be played, hell, we might even wind up with a .500 at the end of the regular season, and, with that, you're torn in your either white or black take on Larry. :)

[TOOT DADDY]

I would welcome that and upgrade the pat on the back to a firm handshake and a chest bump. With Herb not Larry cause that would mean that he listened to his assistants. He didn't play D.J. in overtime because he thought he got hurt but guess what. He never asked him was he okay.
L.B. the dumb genius. Toast to .500 :DToot Toot:D

[Mr Guy]

You don't need to look at the records. You don't need to necessarily look at the standings. You don't too count player minutes, or stats.

What Larry Brown has done is take a team in a city of very bitter, jaded fans, in a state dominated by college basketball, where we can't even get the cable companies that paid for the arena to carry all the games, and sold out (http://www.newsobserver.com/733/story/1462394.html) a late March game.

I'm pretty confident the last time people in Charlotte cared about pro-basketball in April, it involved the Hornets.

[spectre]

He didn't play D.J. in overtime because he thought he got hurt but guess what. He never asked him was he okay.
L.B. the dumb genius.

I missed that...have a link?

Don't ya just love posters who follow a rook to a team and one of the first thing he does is tell fans who've been here since day 1 how it really is? :rolleyes:

[davcbow]

Thanks for helping get my point across a team with all those shortcomings basically had the same record. Won two games less (Thanks for the correction) with way less.:rolleyes:


What friggen point, you havent said %^&* yet...you are just stirring up trouble in here and you know it....Another Charlotte Observer forums excapee...Im out of this thread, you wont back up your point, you make no sense.. later dude

[TOOT DADDY]

Huh Huh Huh..i Would Like To Send You Guys A Little In Game Video Footage

[amour217]

Well I didn't follow the team last year but when you guys drafted my favorite player I became a fan enough to order the nba package to watch all the games and I haven't missed one. So I guess I give an on the surface outlook and on the surface lottery team, more losses than wins, and not making the playoffs with bad in game management. Thats all facts especially when the coach himself says he should have did this or that see (I should have communicated to them to commit a foul last night). Give me my green back people.


you said package

[TOOT DADDY]

Lmao Lmao..l.o.l

[WAM9]

I have to admit I haven't read all the posts on this thread but I still wanted to reply. I apologize if I repeat others opinions.

To say that we aren't an improved team just because of our record and that we aren't going to finish 41-41 is propostruous. Anyone who has watched the Bobcats knows that we are probably the most improved team in the league. We pass better, we defend better, our offensive and defensive movement is so much better. LB inherited an NBA team that wasn't able to compete at the highest level in the NBA. Since the trades, we are certainly playing over .500 ball. Now, we are a legitamate playoff contender who has beaten LA and then barely lost to Boston (in Boston) in 2OT. We can play with any team in the NBA on any given night. Using the fact that we lost to Washington as your arguement that we aren't good doesn't hold water. By that same reasoning, Cleveland must not be very good either.

Throw the overall record out the window. Our improvement is obvious. And by the way, we have played better than we have ever played in our history. If you watch the games, you can't miss it.

I know that Cleveland's coach will win coach of the year but LB should, and will be in the conversation. If we make the playoffs, I expect LB to finish top 3 in the Coach of the year voting. In my opinion, he should win it. I have been watching the game of basketball for well over 30 years and I have never seen improvement in a team like the Bobcats have shown this season. Again, if your really watching, it's obvious.

[kickazzz2000]

I would welcome that and upgrade the pat on the back to a firm handshake and a chest bump. With Herb not Larry cause that would mean that he listened to his assistants. He didn't play D.J. in overtime because he thought he got hurt but guess what. He never asked him was he okay.
L.B. the dumb genius. Toast to .500 :DToot Toot:D

Troll.

Don't come to freaking North Carolina tooting your horn and your "winning tradition" being a Texas basketball fan, as if people around here don't know what a winning tradition is.

[TOOT DADDY]

THERE IS NO COLLEGE IN SAN ANTONIO OR HOUSTON IM TALKING PRO BALL. I DONT STAY IN AUSTIN. HOLD YOUR HORSES PLEASE. BEFORE THIS YEAR I ROLLED WITH THE ROCKETS AND SPURS. WELL GOT TO GO GET MY TOOT. TALK TO YOU GUYS AT GAME TIME TGIF. :DTOOT TOOT:biggrin:

[TOOT DADDY]

I have to admit I haven't read all the posts on this thread but I still wanted to reply. I apologize if I repeat others opinions.

To say that we aren't an improved team just because of our record and that we aren't going to finish 41-41 is propostruous. Anyone who has watched the Bobcats knows that we are probably the most improved team in the league. We pass better, we defend better, our offensive and defensive movement is so much better. LB inherited an NBA team that wasn't able to compete at the highest level in the NBA. Since the trades, we are certainly playing over .500 ball. Now, we are a legitamate playoff contender who has beaten LA and then barely lost to Boston (in Boston) in 2OT. We can play with any team in the NBA on any given night. Using the fact that we lost to Washington as your arguement that we aren't good doesn't hold water. By that same reasoning, Cleveland must not be very good either.

Throw the overall record out the window. Our improvement is obvious. And by the way, we have played better than we have ever played in our history. If you watch the games, you can't miss it.

I know that Cleveland's coach will win coach of the year but LB should, and will be in the conversation. If we make the playoffs, I expect LB to finish top 3 in the Coach of the year voting. In my opinion, he should win it. I have been watching the game of basketball for well over 30 years and I have never seen improvement in a team like the Bobcats have shown this season. Again, if your really watching, it's obvious.
CLEVELAND HAS LOST TO 15 GAMES WE LOST 40. SO CLEVELAND IS VERY, VERY, GOOD.

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^ Gah, all-caps, the perennial eye-sore. Refrain from using the said in the future, OK? ...TOOT TOOT...

[SWedd523]

CLEVELAND HAS LOST TO 15 GAMES WE LOST 40. SO CLEVELAND IS VERY, VERY, GOOD.http://apps.rockyou.com/images/facebook/apps/superwall/2008_01_24_caps_lock.jpg

[Ghost Kat]

Not trying to turn this into a political thread, to each their own, some peoples finances,backgrounds and beliefs allow them to be effected moreso than others,, I was simply responding to the questions in Teej's
post. Again Not bashing the Messiah or his followers :)

Now I don't Neg people...But I will get you for Obama bashing...talk about my coach all you want to but not my Messiah!!!!!!


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[WarioVsMooChicken]

Obama really hasn't done anything to be considered good or bad. I like his personality but I don't like his stance on legalizing marijuana. That's just about it now though.

Back on topic, aside from end of the game situations, brown has been an EXCELLENT coach. With a good draft and/or free agent signing, we are set to get the 3-5 seed in the East next year.

[davcbow]

Obama really hasn't done anything to be considered good or bad. I like his personality but I don't like his stance on legalizing marijuana. That's just about it now though.

Havent heard anything about this:p

[TOOT DADDY]

Obama really hasn't done anything to be considered good or bad. I like his personality but I don't like his stance on legalizing marijuana. That's just about it now though.

Back on topic, aside from end of the game situations, brown has been an EXCELLENT coach. With a good draft and/or free agent signing, we are set to get the 3-5 seed in the East next year.

lmno@swedd523. so there is still hope for legalizing toot he didn't rule it out. hell yeah!

[SWedd523]

Marijuana would be legal if the government could regulate it. The problem is too many people grow it on their own so it'd be impossible to set prices for it.

If they ever figure something out and make weed legal, and find a way to make it taxable income, we'd be out of this recession QUICK

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^ too stoned too care about further expenses and a little something on the side for the government. :)

[TOOT DADDY]

Wonder if Felts ran the last play tonight just like LB said. (LB) "Hey Felts look here I know you ben driving and dishing the better part of the game but you have hit some amazing shots go Raymond run along don't look for anyone you my son shoot the three." Game over! Still only two more wins then last year we competed though. Oh yeah! We competed:rolleyes:

[110oldeast]

What a JOKE of a post. Felton gave the ball to Diaw who gave it to Raymond for a wide open look with 5 seconds to go. He shot it and missed it. I suppose he could have shied away from it and seen if he could run out the clock going into the lane the way Shannon Brown did earlier in the year in a similar situation.

Sure call out Felton when he, Wallace, and Gana were a few of one consistently playing with fire. Neve mind the fact that the bench gives up a 12 pt lead that they were spotted in the first quarter. That makes a lot of sense....


Wonder if Felts ran the last play tonight just like LB said. (LB) "Hey Felts look here I know you ben driving and dishing the better part of the game but you have hit some amazing shots go Raymond run along don't look for anyone you my son shoot the three." Game over! Still only two more wins then last year we competed though. Oh yeah! We competed:rolleyes:

[TOOT DADDY]

Why in the hell stick with the bench so damn long. Any other time he sits their ass. So he did the reverse tonight. On a roll sit them not doing sh#t let them play. Six more to go

[amour217]

Oh he's holding something all right....but it ain't accolades LOL

[teej]

I'm seriously starting to wonder why this thread is even around still, Mustachio?

...Toot, have you ever played organized basketball? Do you have two eyes? Can you see that this team is now a factor in any game it plays, yet just last year was a write-off for other teams? Jeez.

...and what the hell does marijuana have to do with the president?

[Robertpel9]

I love tha cats and LB but we gaev this game away

Who give a flying F*ck if we are a legitimate contestent in every game, yes that is great and an improvement vs last year but i want wins.

I am no fair weather fan and i put my money where my mouth is, i have spent Thousands of $$$ of this team in the last 4 months. I am not content with being "in " games, i want wins

Tonight was BS :B DID leave the bench in too long and i knew when Raja was sidelined we were done.

Here is to 2010

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Obama really hasn't done anything to be considered good or bad. I like his personality but I don't like his stance on legalizing marijuana. That's just about it now though.

Back on topic, aside from end of the game situations, brown has been an EXCELLENT coach. With a good draft and/or free agent signing, we are set to get the 3-5 seed in the East next year.I am sure many hated to see prohibition end but given the war our law was losing fighting alcohol it was necessary to legalize it. Pot is less of a threat than alcohol so imo it is stupid to waste our resources fighting it. It is a losing battle on a very tame drug.

As far as Larry Browns coaching, I agree that Larry isn't the best in game manager but as far as getting players to play smart fundamental basketball he is the best. As a Texan and a Bobcat fan I am thrilled with the job Larry Brown has done. Next year has a lot of promise and I look forward to a great season for our Bobcats next year.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

I am sure many hated to see prohibition end but given the war our law was losing fighting alcohol it was necessary to legalize it. Pot is less of a threat than alcohol so imo it is stupid to waste our resources fighting it. It is a losing battle on a very tame drug.
.

I agree. Obama isn't trying to legalize it though.

And the Bobcats need more than 1 SG on the team.

[Ampsportsduo]

Who give a flying F*ck if we are a legitimate contestent in every game, yes that is great and an improvement vs last year but i want wins.

With any sport, part of the enjoyment is in the process of watching a team grow. The wins will come.

[TOOT DADDY]

lmno@swedd523. so there is still hope for legalizing toot he didn't rule it out. hell yeah!
Did he rule out legalizing toot?:confused:

[westbrook08]

At no point in your incoherant ramblings did you even come close to anything that resembled a rational thought.In fact ,everyone here is now dumber for having listened to it.I award you no points,and may god have mercy on your soul........Billy Madison.That sums up my thoughts on this entire thread.Are you sure your not from crawford.Because apparently there are a few slow people of note from there.But ,hey if we don't improve next year I will apologive and send you a copy of "my pet goat" autographed by W.

[Marvel]

I'm gonna Larry Brown all the credit in the world.This team is by far better than what it was at the beginning of the season.Larry Brrown is the man now we need depth preferably at the 2 spot.

[Chef]

obama can't make laws. he is in the executive branch not the legislative branch. if you want the drug laws (or any laws for that matter) you need to petition your congressmen. even if he wanted it done, the congress would still need to pass the legislation. it won't happen even in a democrat controlled congress.

i think i speak for most when i say these boards are for sports nothing more.

[davcbow]

I am sure many hated to see prohibition end but given the war our law was losing fighting alcohol it was necessary to legalize it. Pot is less of a threat than alcohol so imo it is stupid to waste our resources fighting it. It is a losing battle on a very tame drug.

As far as Larry Browns coaching, I agree that Larry isn't the best in game manager but as far as getting players to play smart fundamental basketball he is the best. As a Texan and a Bobcat fan I am thrilled with the job Larry Brown has done. Next year has a lot of promise and I look forward to a great season for our Bobcats next year.

Optimism I love it, also I agree on both points....:p

[millst2]

Now I don't Neg people...But I will get you for Obama bashing...talk about my coach all you want to but not my Messiah!!!!!!


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No Comment as none is needed.
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Now back to our reguarly scheduled broadcast >>>>

[dnbman]

With any sport, part of the enjoyment is in the process of watching a team grow. The wins will come.

No kidding. If it was as easy as "hire coach x" and "sign player y," the Knicks would be the champions every year and the season would be reduced to a dozen games; the rest would be foregone conclusions.

[millst2]

At no point in your incoherant ramblings did you even come close to anything that resembled a rational thought.In fact ,everyone here is now dumber for having listened to it.I award you no points,and may god have mercy on your soul........Billy Madison.That sums up my thoughts on this entire thread.Are you sure your not from crawford.Because apparently there are a few slow people of note from there.But ,hey if we don't improve next year I will apologive and send you a copy of "my pet goat" autographed by W.

Give you props for the Billy Madison quote,, but WTF does crawford and slow people meant to imply? I am trying my damndest to not respond to any liberal bashings, but give me a fukn break.

How about we keep George Dub and Obama-prompter out of this and stick to the subject of this jacked up Thread. Which has taken many strange turns I give all of us that, but Bobcats is the topic.

[millst2]

obama can't make laws. he is in the executive branch not the legislative branch. if you want the drug laws (or any laws for that matter) you need to petition your congressmen. even if he wanted it done, the congress would still need to pass the legislation. it won't happen even in a democrat controlled congress.

i think i speak for most when i say these boards are for sports nothing more.

+1 , agreed

[dnbman]

+1 , agreed

Well, sports and girls.


and beer.

[Ghost Kat]

Well, sports and girls.


and beer.

Whats really sad is all those things are evenually harmful to your health

[davcbow]

Whats really sad is all those things are evenually harmful to your health

Warning: The surgeon general has determined that living is dangerous to your health....:cool:

[millst2]

Warning: The surgeon general has determined that living is dangerous to your health....:cool:

Exactly, you take away women and sports 100% of straight males would cease to live. Well 99% as I am sure theres a percentage of males who could care about one or the other.. BUT.. Is that Possible??

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...you take away women and sports 100% of straight males would cease to live...
^ I'd manage, for a while, then I'd grab a dull blade and go berserk.

This thread has gone way OT.

[Ghost Kat]

Exactly, you take away women and sports 100% of straight males would cease to live. Well 99% as I am sure theres a percentage of males who could care about one or the other.. BUT.. Is that Possible??

Take away sports and beer...ok.. maybe... but no Girls??... no thank you

[teej]

Take away sports and beer...ok.. maybe... but no Girls??... no thank you

Amen, Adam lived without sports and beer, but at least he had Eve :biggrin:

How the hell did we get here?

[JamieMcNeill]

Warning: The surgeon general has determined that living is dangerous to your health....:cool:

Sports, girls and beer have now been determined by the surgeon general to cause cancer, encephalitis, jaundicing, and super herpes. Participate at your own risk.

[dnbman]

One other thing to note about the season:

While some might say 9th in the East isn't especially impressive, we'd also be 10th in the west, behind a Phoenix team that would be solidly in the Eastern playoff bracket.

We actually have a better record against the Western conference also. So, it's not like we're getting wins off of beating poor Eastern conference teams.

I think next year we will be in pretty good shape and a definite playoff team if we retain Felton. If we don't retain Felton, we'll need to get another pg who can play serious minutes. If we do that, I think we'll be a very interesting playoff team next year.

[amour217]

Amen, Adam lived without sports and beer, but at least he had Eve :biggrin:

How the hell did we get here?

I wonder if Eve had a badonkadonk

[teej]

I wonder if Eve had a badonkadonk

She was made perfect in the garden, so I'm going with a yes. :p

[Ampsportsduo]

“A real man wants two things: danger and play. Therefore he wants woman as the most dangerous plaything. Man shall be educated for war, and woman for the recreation of the warrior: all else is folly [ ... ]"

- Nietzsche

That's right, I'm bringing him back!