Hypothetical...If the balls fall for us what to do?

[TattoodCats4life]

I was playing with the ESPN mock draft thing and it simulates the lottery and all that jazz...well after 2-3 tries (all putting us in #13 pulling Evans) the simulator put is in slot #2 and picking Harden. My wonder and point of conversation is "what would we do" if we got 1-2-3 in the draft by some miracle.

I feel if we got #1 we'd trade the pick (or pick for someone else and trade players whatever based on the rules of an already traded pick). I don't know much about Harden, but I'm guessing he'd be a safe pick at 2 or 3. Or do we pick the giant from UCONN and swap out Meka for an all star SG?

Just looking to see, obviously our chances are slim, but you never know, you never ever ever know :)

[coordinator0]

If we could I would want Harden 100% no doubt about it.

[SWedd523]

Um.. I guess I'm missing something, but why would we trade the number 1 overall pick if we had the chance to draft Blake Griffin? :confused:

I just don't understand how you could pass on that?


Also, why take Thabeet? You would imagine his giant ass would be an offensive force if only for the reason that he's 6 inches taller than everybody. But he's only about the 4th option for their offense at any given time.

We already criticize Mek for his limited offensive game. Why take somebody who's much worse offensively and doesn't average more rebounds in college? And I won't even get into the BBIQ argument that would leave Hasheem wayyyy behind (something LB would hate)


If we get the chance to take Blake. We do it. Plain and simple. If we get the number two pick. We take James Harden. Also no question.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Wasn't Rubio predicted to go first like 1 year ago?

[TattoodCats4life]

Wasn't Rubio predicted to go first like 1 year ago?

I've seen some things in the mocks that say Rubio might go first depending on which team had that pick... i.e. if OKC had 2 of the top 3 they might take rubio and blake.

I've watched a few games with Griffin though and I don't see him as any stronger than Okafor.

[ohara831]

Griffin is the pick at #1. If we have #2, likely Harden; if we have #3, I have no clue what we do. It would be wide open and include trading back for an extra pick.

[SWedd523]

Griffin is the pick at #1. If we have #2, likely Harden; if we have #3, I have no clue what we do. It would be wide open and include trading back for an extra pick.
My thoughts plainly and succinctly :)

[coordinator0]

Griffin is the pick at #1. If we have #2, likely Harden; if we have #3, I have no clue what we do. It would be wide open and include trading back for an extra pick.

That sounds like what is likely to happen... although I still like Harden.

[BETCATS]

i say if this happens we either
A) Take Blake

or

B) Package the pick with all our terrible contracts and get a star player

[dnbman]

Griffin's the pick. We'd have to make some decisions with Wallace and Diaw. However, Griffin looks every bit of a top PF in the league for the next decade. You can't pass that up unless we were getting a serious star in return.

After that, I suppose Harden.

I'd probably go Jordan Hill next.

If I can't get a starting caliber SG, I really want a real PF who can legitimately play inside and contribute. In the meantime, I'll find a journeyman SG who can keep defenses honest to fill the position behind Raja.

[ALong13]

Griffin's the pick. We'd have to make some decisions with Wallace and Diaw. However, Griffin looks every bit of a top PF in the league for the next decade. You can't pass that up unless we were getting a serious star in return.

After that, I suppose Harden.

I'd probably go Jordan Hill next.

If I can't get a starting caliber SG, I really want a real PF who can legitimately play inside and contribute. In the meantime, I'll find a journeyman SG who can keep defenses honest to fill the position behind Raja.

Honestly If we were able to get Blake Griffin, I'd move Diaw to SF and let Wallace play SG, he's done it before and while it's not his natural position, I think he could pull it off...Let Bell come off the bench...

Have a line-up of

Felton, Crash, Diaw, Griffin, Okafor
DJ, Bell, Radman, Howard, Diop

[SWedd523]

Honestly If we were able to get Blake Griffin, I'd move Diaw to SF and let Wallace play SG, he's done it before and while it's not his natural position, I think he could pull it off...Let Bell come off the bench...

Have a line-up of

Felton, Crash, Diaw, Griffin, Okafor
DJ, Bell, Radman, Howard, Diop
I honestly think it'd make Diaw expendable as Crash needs to stay at the SF position. I'll take Crash over Diaw any day. Hell, we could even move Diaw to the second unit and have two units of:

1.Felton, SG, Crash, Griffin, Okafor
2.DJ, Raja, Diaw, Ajinca, Diop
and interchange with Vlad, Cartier, Howard, and even May, and have depth at just about every position


sexy looking squad right there!:g:

[BRNC]

I see no big in this draft besides Griffin that can start as a rookie so it would be foolish (IMO) for any team to not draft him....if it does bounce our way Diaw could be traded for a 2 we need...but we face long odds to get Griffin...very long odds...

[G-Force for MVP]

All Blake can do is dunk

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^ which, next to soft-a-Mek, is bad because... ?

[davcbow]

We need a shooter, but Griffin would be a great pickup....:cool:

[coordinator0]

I honestly think it'd make Diaw expendable as Crash needs to stay at the SF position. I'll take Crash over Diaw any day. Hell, we could even move Diaw to the second unit and have two units of:

1.Felton, SG, Crash, Griffin, Okafor
2.DJ, Raja, Diaw, Ajinca, Diop
and interchange with Vlad, Cartier, Howard, and even May, and have depth at just about every position


sexy looking squad right there!:g:

I would really want the team to think about making Diaw lose some weight and maybe gain a little quickness because I think his game is more suited for the 3 spot, not the 4. Crash's defense and Diaw's offense would be an amazing tandem for us at the 3. Too bad this is all my hoping/opinion.

[BRNC]

Nine mil for a guy coming off the bench is a lot of money...I'd rather trade him for a starting 2 if we could do it...

[SWedd523]

All Blake can do is dunk
All Amare could do when he came out was dunk. Blake is Amare reincarnate, right down to the knee problems (albeit less severe). I'd take Amare, and Griffin works harder than he does, so I'd DEFINITELY take him

[b-nukle]

If we luck up and get Blake, I think we'll make a trade for an all-star SG. I would go after Rip Hamilton or Tracy McGrady(if he's healthy).

package bell and diaw for rip and walter
package bell, diaw, nazr for mcgrady

Felton/DJ
Rip or Mcgrady
G. Wallace
Blake Griffin
Emeka

Bobcats would put themselves in a good position if they get the #1 pick.
I don't see it happening, but it would be awesome.:biggrin:

[ohara831]

As much as I like Blake Griffin and would love him in a Cats uniform, ideally we may want the #2 pick. There are a few teams who would absolutely covet Ricky Rubio as their PG and may be willing to pay dearly to get him. Since Harden is the best SG out there, and is falling a bit in all the Mocks, if we could get #2, and trade back a few spots and still land Harden but also pick up a player or other pick, it might be better for us.

[amour217]

this thread is about balls

[ohara831]

this thread is about balls

Exactly. Which is to what I was referring. If we got lucky and managed to get either the first or second pick rather than the #12 pick.

[krazyrumpshaker]

Does anyone know when the draft lottery is?

[ziggy]

Does anyone know when the draft lottery is?
Wikipedia has the date at May 19, 2009

[teej]

We should send MJ or LB...or maybe Boris...but I want to see MJ doing something for the 'Cats.

[spectre]

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/58616/20090417/ties_broken_for_2009_nba_draft_order/

The official draft order after the tie breakers:


Team, Record, Chances out of 1,000
1. Sacramento 17-65 250
2. Washington 19-63 178
3. LA Clippers 19-63 177
4. Oklahoma City 23-59 119
5. Minnesota 24-58 76
6. Memphis 24-58 75
7. Golden State 29-53 43
8. New York 32-50 28
9. Toronto 33-49 17
10. Milwaukee 34-48 10
11. New Jersey 34-48 9
12. Charlotte 35-47 7
13. Indiana 36-46 6
14. Phoenix 46-36 5

The order for the remainder of the first round picks is as follows:
15. Detroit 39-43
16. Chicago 41-41
17. Philadelphia 41-41
18. Miami (To Minn) 43-39
19. Atlanta 47-35
20. Utah 48-34
21. New Orleans 49-33
22. Dallas 50-32
23. Houston (To Sac) 53-29
24. Portland 54-28
25. San Antonio (To OKC) 54-28
26. Denver (To Chi via OKC) 54-28
27. Orlando (To Mem) 59-23
28. Boston (To Minn) 62-20
29. LA Lakers 65-17
30. Cleveland 66-16

[coordinator0]

With it looking like that at the top, i wouldn't be surprised to see Rubio go #1. SAC has two promising big men in Thompson and Hawes, but they REALLY need a PG.

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^ If Beno were to hear what you just said, he'd slap your face silly. :biggrin:

[coordinator0]

^ If Beno were to hear what you just said, he'd slap your face silly. :biggrin:

LOL, I know thy have Udrih but I don't think he's a capable starting PG in the league. He had his moments a couple years ago, but he really inconsistent. I have no idea why they gave him such a big contract before last season... I guess we know why SAC is picking #1 :).

[SWedd523]

With it looking like that at the top, i wouldn't be surprised to see Rubio go #1. SAC has two promising big men in Thompson and Hawes, but they REALLY need a PG.
Do you understand how happy that would make Washington? They have Gil, and would love Mr. Griffin dropping to them.

However, if Sactown decides to take Griffin anyway.. Washington still has Gil and Caron, so they probably wouldn't be looking at either Rubio or Harden... Maybe we could slip in and make a possible trade? We move up and take that pick and we give them somebody and our pick at 12? :biggrin:

[coordinator0]

Do you understand how happy that would make Washington? They have Gil, and would love Mr. Griffin dropping to them.

However, if Sactown decides to take Griffin anyway.. Washington still has Gil and Caron, so they probably wouldn't be looking at either Rubio or Harden... Maybe we could slip in and make a possible trade? We move up and take that pick and we give them somebody and our pick at 12? :biggrin:

Sounds good to me! WAS would be scary with Griffin, Young, McGee, Blatche, and Crittenton for the future... and that's just their young guys! Add in Arenas, Butler, and Jamison and watch out for them with Saunders at the head of the team (he will be great for their offense).

[davcbow]

Sounds good to me! WAS would be scary with Griffin, Young, McGee, Blatche, and Crittenton for the future... and that's just their young guys! Add in Arenas, Butler, and Jamison and watch out for them with Saunders at the head of the team (he will be great for their offense).

What if hell freezes over and we draw the 1st pick? :p

[SWedd523]

James Harden (http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2009&playerId=19221), SG, So., Arizona State
Harden is arguably the best scoring 2-guard in the country. Rock-solid strong, he has an excellent perimeter game and all the old-school tricks that make him tough to stop. However, a late-season swoon, including a terrible performance in the NCAA tournament, has done some damage to his draft stock.
For most of the year, he looked like a lock for a top-five pick. Now there are bigger question marks as teams take a closer look at his athleticism and size. Still, it's hard to see him slipping out of the lottery. Look for him to land anywhere between 5 and 13 on draft night.


just sayin! ;)

[coordinator0]

James Harden (http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2009&playerId=19221), SG, So., Arizona State
Harden is arguably the best scoring 2-guard in the country. Rock-solid strong, he has an excellent perimeter game and all the old-school tricks that make him tough to stop. However, a late-season swoon, including a terrible performance in the NCAA tournament, has done some damage to his draft stock.
For most of the year, he looked like a lock for a top-five pick. Now there are bigger question marks as teams take a closer look at his athleticism and size. Still, it's hard to see him slipping out of the lottery. Look for him to land anywhere between 5 and 13 on draft night.


just sayin! ;)

:o Stop that, your getting my hopes up...

As for davcbow, I think hell would freeze over before the "Cats got any kind of break lol. That would be a HUGE leap to get the first, something like a 7% chance. I'm still hoping though lol.

[Jennings]

Man we need some luck in the lottery. Seems like we've had bad luck every year. I can't wait though.

[Slam]

Usually there are draft positions you can not land in.

Does anyone know the breaks for the positions being placed at 12?

[Slam]

Usually there are draft positions you can not land in.

Does anyone know the breaks for the positions being placed at 12?
At the 12, we get 7 ping-pong balls and a...

0.7% chance of landing the 1st pick
0.8% for the 2nd
1% for the 3rd

93.5% chance we'll end up with the 12th
3.9% chance of sliding back to 13
0.1% chance of sliding back to 14

[coordinator0]

At the 12, we get 7 ping-pong balls and a...

0.7% chance of landing the 1st pick
0.8% for the 2nd
1% for the 3rd

93.5% chance we'll end up with the 12th
3.9% chance of sliding back to 13
0.1% chance of sliding back to 14

Aah... It was .7 that we get 1, not 7 lol. Wow I don't think there's a shot in hell that we get top 3. We'll probably end up getting 14 lol.

[Marvel]

And we missed out on possibly the greatest draft in NBA history by a season,but we have had no luck in the lottery,why is that .....Destiny? Fate? Nah just the roll of a handful of ping pong balls.

[spectre]

And we missed out on possibly the greatest draft in NBA history by a season,but we have had no luck in the lottery,why is that .....Destiny? Fate? Nah just the roll of a handful of ping pong balls.

We'd just muck it up anyway; in every draft except the 1st one management had a decision to make and they blew it every time.

And yeah...I would have loved to have had the 4th pick in the '03 draft...thankfully Detroit took Darko at 2nd. If we could have snagged Bosh and then luck into either Howard or Mek in '04 we'd have been an entirely different team.