Who is the Bobcat most likely to be dealt on draft night? [Archive]

SWedd523

05-28-2009, 09:45 PM

Nazzy as a cap dump, if anything, next most likely is DJ but only to move up or get talent.
Was it spectre that had the sig saying something like Ammo + the 9 = OJ Mayo?

Well for this years draft its: The land where DJ + the 12 = James Harden ;)

millst2

05-29-2009, 03:28 AM

I like that Sweed..

DJ + the 12th to move up.. I always like the 2 for 1 deals. We get rid of DJ and bring in Harden and then where we would have the 12th take up a roster slot it gives us a chance to fill the slot with someone LB could find to compliment the core.

spectre

05-29-2009, 05:19 AM

ohara831

05-29-2009, 06:50 AM

I think Spectre is most likely right saying no one, but since we have to pick someone, I'm going unconventional. I say Lex. I know he is young, has potential and is on a good Contract, but that is what makes him tradeable. I think Nazr's Contract prevents a trade. May and Felton cant be dealt by the Draft as they are FA's and Okafor's BYC status will prevent any trade of him. And I think LB really likes DJ and wont trade him.

dav7z

05-29-2009, 07:44 AM

Im thinking some combo of Bell, Nazz, DJ.
Bell or DJs contract will help move Nazz

Dead_Real

05-29-2009, 09:11 AM

-Larry Brown is reportedly extremely high on Stephen Curry, and may be willing to trade up in order to get him. Apparently he views him as being able to play either guard position, even alongside Charlotte?s current group of point guards, Raymond Felton and D.J. Augustin.
Via DX Combine Update looks like we might move up for Curry :mad:

SWedd523

05-29-2009, 04:17 PM

Via DX Combine Update looks like we might move up for Curry :mad:
I honestly think he'd be nice next to Ray, but I would mos definitely NOT put him next to DJ

Nazr is only a possibility if we decide to trade DOWN.
DJ or Raja to move UP.

I think Lexy would be intriguing too

Ghost Kat

05-29-2009, 11:08 PM

There is no chance this franchise is going to trade DJ just to move up a couple spots. This isn't that strong a draft. Pick 3-10 are pretty much equal in skill and production level. Seems to me this team is trying to build a group of atleast 8 core players. Why trade your back up PG who made the NBA rookie 2nd team for a player that hasn't proven himself yet?

dnbman

05-29-2009, 11:14 PM

There is no chance this franchise is going to trade DJ just to move up a couple spots. Is isn't that strong a draft. Pick 3-10 are pretty much equal in skill and production level. Seems to me this team is trying to build a group of atleast 8 core players. Why trade your back up PG who made the NBA rookie 2nd team for a player that hasn't proven himself yet?

Yeah, I agree. DJ seems to be doing everything right with the organization. Aside from being a talented player, I don't see them trading him unless they were EXTREMELY convinced that another player would make a significant difference.

SWedd523

05-29-2009, 11:37 PM

Why trade your back up PG who made the NBA rookie 2nd team for a player that hasn't proven himself yet?
Because James Harden > DJ Augustin

dnbman

05-29-2009, 11:59 PM

Because James Harden > DJ Augustin

Maybe, but do you trade DJ and the first for him?

SWedd523

05-30-2009, 12:22 AM

Maybe, but do you trade DJ and the first for him?
Yes

DJ + 12 = Harden

We still have 2 other draft picks to use on a PG, possibly by combining and moving upPatty Mills, Darren Collison, Toney Douglas, Sergio Llul, all could be available to us. Even some of the ones slated for the lottery could drop (Ty Lawson)

TheBeagle

05-30-2009, 12:43 AM

Yeah that was me. :p

It's not possible to trade either Felton or May on draft night due to their FA status. Mek is also still BYC until 1 year after he signed his contract, which is sometime in July I think.

I say no one. I agree with spectre, but if anyone should be traded, I went with Nazr...I still don't think it'll happen, but if anyone goes it's him.

As for ohara's idea about Lexy being traded......:mad:

docend24

05-30-2009, 10:22 AM

I just swapped out Diop for him... It's a limit of 10 choices:)
Tehn why players who can't be dealt are there? (Felton,May,...)

mrtarheel

05-31-2009, 11:36 AM

I think Nazr gets traded with a pick for some depth. Hopefully Mo Pete since the trade is for the better need of both teams.

ziggy

05-31-2009, 11:47 AM

Removed Felton and May from the poll since they aren't eligible to be traded at draft time.

BRNC

05-31-2009, 09:22 PM

I think the only way Nazr is traded is with another player...I voted DJ because a lot of teams need PGs and he is a proven commodity.....and we get a back-up with one of the seconds or package them to move back into round one...and if the Hornets want to move their first (what I'm hearing) they have no second so we might be able to package the seconds for their first...This only works if LB gets the bigger PG he wants so not sure it will happen...but again...I think it is the only way Nazr is moved...

Ghost Kat

06-01-2009, 03:36 AM

Isn't Harden a SG? So if you trade DJ and the 12th, who's the back up PG? Harden? Who's the back up SG? Harden? I wouldn't be so quick to say he's a better fit for this team then DJ yet, he could easily end up being another Eric Gordon or Ben Gordon for that matter.

I don't think there's much chance of trading up. LB spent half the year tearing the team apart and getting the players he wanted. I doubt we have enough to trade with any other team thats worth moving up.

Teams really need to be trading with us to get our picks, like we did with Denver last year. Maybe then we can some real options to choose from.

SWedd523

06-01-2009, 03:01 PM

From a previous post of mine:
We still have 2 other draft picks to use on a PG, possibly by combining and moving up: Patty Mills, Darren Collison, Toney Douglas, Sergio Llul, all could be available to us. Even some of the ones slated for the lottery could drop (Ty Lawson)

This draft is PG heavy, if you haven't noticed. The talent of the PG's at the later part of the first round and beginning of the second round is still very solid.

ohara831

06-01-2009, 04:30 PM

I realize DJ is young, a good player with losts of upside and has a Rookie Contract so he is very valuable and appealing in a trade. But I am not so sure LB will take that chance trading him. After all, DJ was brought in because Ray was not living up to expectations. He was drafted to push Ray to be better or DJ would take over the job. Ray responded well. Partly due to LB's coaching, but also due to DJ being here. Now if Ray is here next season, that means we just resigned him to a nice big fat Contract. If DJ is also gone, those two factors combine to mean a whole lot of pressure lifted off of Ray. I would be very concerned with him regressing to the old bad Ray stuff and driving us all nuts with bad plays at critical times. Just not sure that any deal we get involving DJ leaving will be the best for us. It could help in one aspect, and hurt us more in another. Although we might get something we need, it is an awful big risk.

spectre

06-01-2009, 04:48 PM

After all, DJ was brought in because Ray was not living up to expectations. He was drafted to push Ray to be better or DJ would take over the job. Ray responded well. Partly due to LB's coaching, but also due to DJ being here.

We don't know that at all.

We do know that we had one PG signed last summer and LB puts more weight on that position than any other...so it makes total sense that he would want what was purported to be the "best pure PG in the draft".

It could very well have been a depth pick...OR it could very well be exactly like you just posted.

But we don't know.

I still don't want to trade DJ...either to move up or move back.

jstar5

06-02-2009, 12:46 PM

Is the remark about Harden possibly being like Eric or Ben Gordon a compliment?

I would prefer Eric Gordon over Harden. He's a terrific, deceptive athlete w/ a purer stroke, as well as younger w/ more upside. I really like Harden's bball IQ and ability to do everything well, but E. Gordon could be a superstar scorer for this team.

Ghost Kat

06-04-2009, 07:06 PM

Eric and Ben are good players but I don't see either of them ever making an allstar team. Plus I don't see either of their teams winning a championship anytime either.

jstar5

06-05-2009, 01:34 PM

You're right about the championships! I disagree though about Eric Gordon never becoming an all-star. He probably won't as long as he's a Clipper and coached by Dunleavy but given the right situation I think he easily could.

I truly believe Eric as the bobs starting SG being coached by LB could be an all-star in 2 years. My only concern is his size but Harden has the same problem w/ less of a pure stroke (don't get me wrong he's still got a good jumper)and less athleticism.

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millst2

06-07-2009, 08:42 PM

From a previous post of mine:

This draft is PG heavy, if you haven't noticed. The talent of the PG's at the later part of the first round and beginning of the second round is still very solid.

Darren Collison is one of them players that you know what your going to get. 4 yrs of college ball and wasn't he in the final four all 4 yrs? I think he will be a solid player.

SWedd523

06-07-2009, 11:15 PM

Darren Collison is one of them players that you know what your going to get. 4 yrs of college ball and wasn't he in the final four all 4 yrs? I think he will be a solid player.
Yeah Darren Collison has been a really solid player over his career at UCLA and will continue to be solid in the NBA for an upper echelon team when he drops to the lower part of the First Round