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SWedd523
06-01-2009, 09:11 PM
Who will the Bobcats choose?

Chef
06-01-2009, 09:32 PM
blair or trade down to get budinger.

SWedd523
06-01-2009, 09:38 PM
ESPN Depth Chart

PG: Raymond Felton / DJ Augustin / Sean Singletary
SG: Raja Bell / Dontell Jefferson
SF: Gerald Wallace / Vladimir Radmanovic / Cartier Martin
PF: Boris Diaw / Juwan Howard / Sean May
C: Emeka Okafor / DeSagana Diop / Nazr Mohammed / Alexis Ajinca





PG
Larry Brown's favorite position. Many people were calling for Ray to be traded, but he began to prove that he's a very capable and solid starter in the NBA. He's tough, he's durable, and he's a good defender. However, he is a free agent and could be dealt if a team is willing to give enough for him. I personally like to call Felton "The Heart" of our team. DJ has proven to be a very capable backup. He's a tremendous shooter and is quick as hell, but he's just not big and strong enough to run the team full time.

SG
Raja is our rock defensively. He's the only guy that still gives Kobe trouble. He's very steady on offense and is our best and most vocal leader. The only issue here is that he's getting up in age so we're likely going to fill the SG position in this draft as there is a gaping hole behind him and he's becoming more injury prone as time wears on.

SF
Possibly no player is defined by their nickname as perfectly as Wallace is. He attacks the rim with reckless abandon and isn't scared of anybody. Damn near the craziest person I've ever seen suit up. A fan favorite and likely a piece for our franchise for the rest of his career. He's injury prone though so a nice backup is needed when he goes down as its been shown that without him, we're not anywhere near as good. I like to call him "The Soul" of our team. Vlad is really nothing more than a 3 point threat, but that's okay in spot minutes. Cartier hasn't really panned out that well so don't look for him to stay too long.

PF
Boris Diaw is a BCP favorite. He's our Point Foward and he runs the offense just as much as Felton does. He is a little on the short side and isn't the best defender but is smart enough to hold his own against more athletic opponents. Juwan Howard is a very solid, but old piece to this team so a backup PF would be a nice pickup. Sean May...... moving along

C
Emeka Okafor is one of the most consistent big men in the NBA. He's been one of the few players to average a double double for the last few years. While Okafor is consistent, he's not really anything special. He's small and has a reputation of being soft. the 'Cats won't be winning any Championships with a front line of Diaw and Mek, so hopefully Emeka can bring us something good in a trade. Diop is a defensive specialist that should see some offensive growth under some LB tutelage and Nazr wants out. Ajinca is our project big man that can play the 3,4, or 5. We're really not too sure what we have yet with him so hopefully he figures it out and shows how smart LB really is.


My Pick
Terrence Williams. He's a 6'6 SG/SF that will be successful at either position thanks to his size and athleticism. He's a tenacious defender and a hardworker that has shown nice improvement since arriving at Louisville. He started to add an outside shot to his game that would only make him even more of a threat once combined with his slashing ability. Has great assist and rebound numbers for a G/F and will be able to contribute from the get-go. He'll be a nice backup SG to Raja Bell to tutor, and will be able to play the SF position when Crash has his inevitable injury.

jpf_v2.0
06-01-2009, 09:40 PM
Henderson, he seems like the best fit for Brown's system.

jazzer89
06-01-2009, 09:45 PM
Even though he is a dookie, he is a Raja Bell clone with added athleticism. He knows Larry Brown when they were both in Philly. He plays defense and offense has improved every year at duke. fits the system but will probably not be an allstar anytime soon.

After that Blair or T Will

Dead_Real
06-01-2009, 11:01 PM
T-Will over Hendo simply because Williams has legit SG size & does a little bit of everything on the court making him a walking triple double. Not to mention the swagger/toughness he would bring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIoZGGdw7o4
Next Iggy

Keetch
06-01-2009, 11:29 PM
I've got to vote Blair. I think he'll be a star. If Earl Clark is there; you've got to consider him too. We need a SG for sure; but we need size more.

jazzer89
06-02-2009, 12:05 AM
I think Gerald Henderson is the better defender but hell you cant complain with either T Will or Henderson. Blair is interesting but i think his intangibles make up for his extreme lack of height for a PF. I like all those picks at 12.

Ghost Kat
06-02-2009, 12:20 AM
I really like T. Williams. I think he is exactly what the team needs.

dav7z
06-02-2009, 07:14 AM
I really like T. Williams. I think he is exactly what the team needs.

I have to go with Henderson hear , Williams would fit good all so . But Henderson has ties with Brown.

bing!
06-02-2009, 09:12 AM
Sean May v2.0 would do it for me, that's right, I'm talking Blair here, bring that ferocious blubber to the game.

BRNC
06-02-2009, 10:26 AM
I went with other...I think DJ will be packaged to trade Nazr (for a vet SG)...so I think Jrue Holiday if he's still there when we pick will be the pick...

SWedd523
06-02-2009, 10:33 AM
it's impossible to tell if we're going to trade the picks or not. So for the sake of accuracy we have to make the pick assuming that we stay as is.

polarcat
06-02-2009, 03:35 PM
i went t-will with the pick. i feel like adding williams would be like us adding the shooting guard version of gerald wallace. i see an iguodaola/g-force type sg that could log some back up sf minutes if we needed to. i love his athleticism, defense, and ability to get to the rim. his shot is coming along and i feel like that area can be improved once he gets to the nba. ammo was a shooter/scorer that had no problem on the college level, but his limited athleticism and ability to score in traffic is what is making him a bust in the nba....so far.

ohara831
06-02-2009, 03:44 PM
Tough choice. But I think the best player on the Board is Blair, so I vote Blair.

bing!
06-02-2009, 04:21 PM
Wow, 'tis nearly a triple tie. (if we consider only members' votes, the poll goes 6-6-5 for Williams, Blair & Henderson, respectively)

Dcarnys
06-02-2009, 04:30 PM
Gerald Henderson is the man. He fits in well with LB's system and is sold on Dfense as well on Offense.

ammofan
06-02-2009, 06:14 PM
I want T-WILL!

BRNC
06-02-2009, 07:43 PM
it's impossible to tell if we're going to trade the picks or not. So for the sake of accuracy we have to make the pick assuming that we stay as is.

If we keep it I'd go Williams...Swedd I already voted (other) so count mine for Williams...

SWedd523
06-02-2009, 08:52 PM
BRNC, sounds good. Only problem... we now have a tie.



So Williams it is ;)

dav7z
06-03-2009, 08:27 AM
BRNC, sounds good. Only problem... we now have a tie.



So Williams it is ;)

A tie Henderson kinda got the shaft in this mock draft.
Williams out side shot sucks and he opens nothing up for Crash at all .
Unless he could prove he can hit the out side jumper consistantly this is a bad pick.
Looking at team need even Ellington or Budlinger would be a better pick......... at twelve

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/gerald-henderson
Williams has a player rating of 90 . Hendersons numbers are much better , Even Ellingtons numbers are much better at 95 rating. Being flashy should not be the only thing we base our pick on.

Chef
06-03-2009, 09:08 AM
why take budinger at 12 when we could get him at 15-20 or later? i know this is based on the poll results and i already said this but...

blair at 12, package 2 second rounders and some combination of nazr, dj, role player to move back into the 1st round to get budinger.

dav7z
06-03-2009, 01:35 PM
Thats my point taking Williams this early when it's clear it's better players on the board .Why not try to move back to 18th and 28th if Williams is our man . And we could still packege our two 2nd rounders.

Its just two early to take Williams with Henderson , Budlinger , Ellington and Blair all still left on the board.

Slam
06-03-2009, 07:34 PM
A tie Henderson kinda got the shaft in this mock draft.
Williams out side shot sucks and he opens nothing up for Crash at all .
Unless he could prove he can hit the out side jumper consistantly this is a bad pick.
Looking at team need even Ellington or Budlinger would be a better pick......... at twelve

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/gerald-henderson
Williams has a player rating of 90 . Hendersons numbers are much better , Even Ellingtons numbers are much better at 95 rating. Being flashy should not be the only thing we base our pick on.
dav - you're crazy.

SWedd523
06-03-2009, 07:46 PM
A tie Henderson kinda got the shaft in this mock draft.
Williams out side shot sucks and he opens nothing up for Crash at all .
Unless he could prove he can hit the out side jumper consistantly this is a bad pick.
Looking at team need even Ellington or Budlinger would be a better pick......... at twelve

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/gerald-henderson
Williams has a player rating of 90 . Hendersons numbers are much better , Even Ellingtons numbers are much better at 95 rating. Being flashy should not be the only thing we base our pick on.
You undervalue Williams dav. I'll be the first to admit he's not the greatest shooter. But what you have to realize is that at the beginning of the year, his shot wasn't that good at all--but as the season progressed, it got better and better.

I have confidence that he will continue to get better as time goes. Have some faith ;)

dav7z
06-03-2009, 08:41 PM
dav - you're crazy.


Slam i might be crazy but you please explain to me how in most if not ALL mock drafts hes picked any where from 12th back NOTHING be for twelve. In any mock i've seen.
Slam you like the guy because he has lynth ,size ,speed, And is a hell of a dunker . But we have a much bigger need for some one to hit the out side jumper with CRASH in the line up . So im crazy wanting a player who can hit a jump shot consistantly. WHY ?
Henderson can do all the things you want and can shoot two ??
Just to let ever one know im a Carolina fan so that has nothing to do with this.

Slam
06-03-2009, 08:54 PM
Slam i might be crazy but you please explain to me how in most if not ALL mock drafts hes picked any where from 12th back NOTHING be for twelve. In any mock i've seen.
Slam you like the guy because he has lynth ,size ,speed, And is a hell of a dunker . But we have a much bigger need for some one to hit the out side jumper with CRASH in the line up . So im crazy wanting a player who can hit a jump shot consistantly. WHY ?
Henderson can do all the things you want and can shoot two ??
Just to let ever one know im a Carolina fan so that has nothing to do with this.
By crazy, you know I mean I love ya mate!!

I don't put a lot of stock in drafts. DeAndre Jordan was meant to be a top 5 pick last year and Jason Thompson was an unknown. Heck, DJ didn't even work out for us!! I mean, we took Ammo #3.................

I like T-Will because he is the perfect type of SG for us. A guy who will help with ball movement, is a great on ball defender, is an outstanding rebounder and can hit an open J.

I said on RGM - Williams reminds me of a guy like Raja Bell. He has the equal offensive ability as Bell - a guy who can hit open J's, shoot of a curl and take a couple of dribbles then shoot. He plays a physical type of on ball D. He has that sort of "swagger" to his approach.

The difference between Williams and Bell though is that Williams is a super athlete, an awesome rebounder and a possesses outstanding court vision.

I'd love something like that on my team.

You say that T-Will's outside shot blows?

Henderson from downtown = 33.6%
Williams from downtown = 38.5%

Henderson from the floor = 45.0%
Williams from the floor = 43.1%

It's just T-Will's FT shooting that blows.

You say T-Will wont open things up for Crash? I see him as a prime partner for Crash because he is more suited to creating for others and his ability to drive and kick to the open guy would really create space for Crash to slash.

Plus, T-Will is a 21 year old 4 year college player so he has a lot of experience but is still young.

dav7z
06-03-2009, 09:15 PM
By crazy, you know I mean I love ya mate!!

I don't put a lot of stock in drafts. DeAndre Jordan was meant to be a top 5 pick last year and Jason Thompson was an unknown. Heck, DJ didn't even work out for us!! I mean, we took Ammo #3.................

I like T-Will because he is the perfect type of SG for us. A guy who will help with ball movement, is a great on ball defender, is an outstanding rebounder and can hit an open J.

I said on RGM - Williams reminds me of a guy like Raja Bell. He has the equal offensive ability as Bell - a guy who can hit open J's, shoot of a curl and take a couple of dribbles then shoot. He plays a physical type of on ball D. He has that sort of "swagger" to his approach.

The difference between Williams and Bell though is that Williams is a super athlete, an awesome rebounder and a possesses outstanding court vision.



Have to addmit you know talent you wanted both Roy and Gay so i shouldn't doubt about Williams .

I'd love something like that on my team.

You say that T-Will's outside shot blows?

Henderson from downtown = 33.6%
Williams from downtown = 38.5%

Henderson from the floor = 45.0%
Williams from the floor = 43.1%

It's just T-Will's FT shooting that blows.

You say T-Will wont open things up for Crash? I see him as a prime partner for Crash because he is more suited to creating for others and his ability to drive and kick to the open guy would really create space for Crash to slash.

Plus, T-Will is a 21 year old 4 year college player so he has a lot of experience but is still young.

You make a good case for Williams. He reminds me of Bell all so . Thats not a bad thing at all . Im just very concerned about his shot . Knowing if we take him at twelve we might miss out on a much better talent. Im sure Clark , Hill , Evans , Derozan one of those guys fall . I would feel much better if we were taking Williams, to just try and move back to 18 and take a chance on getting him thair. We might should just take the BPA at 12 and make a deal with the Wolves for Williams at 18 and get a extra pick. THE 28th.

I think if Williams is who we want we can get him and another 1st rounder if we play our cards right.

Slam
06-03-2009, 09:21 PM
You make a good case for Williams. He reminds me of Bell all so . Thats not a bad thing at all . Im just very concerned about his shot . Knowing if we take him at twelve we might miss out on a much better talent. Im sure Clark , Hill , Evans , Derozan one of those guys fall . I would feel much better if we were taking Williams, to just try and move back to 18 and take a chance on getting him thair. We might should just take the BPA at 12 and make a deal with the Wolves for Williams at 18 and get a extra pick. THE 28th.

I think if Williams is who we want we can get him and another 1st rounder if we play our cards right.
Here's the thing dav:

I'd actually be MUCH more worried about Tyreke Evans jump shooting in the NBA than I am of T-Will's (and I've always been pretty high on Evans).

Williams actually has a really nice looking jump shot with consistent form, a very high release (thanks to his ups) and a compact motion. I think that he will improve as a shooter.

Evans has a funky arse looking shot with his legs split, off balance releasing from beside his face.

That worries me more than T-Will's does.

I will give you though that Henderson has a very smooth looking J but if I am having to choose between the two, I'm taking the guy with the nice looking J that I think will improve that also brings ball movement, court vision, rebounding, on ball D, shot blocking and a nice little swagger with him too.

Slam
06-03-2009, 09:34 PM
Slam i might be crazy but you please explain to me how in most if not ALL mock drafts hes picked any where from 12th back NOTHING be for twelve. In any mock i've seen.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/warriors/ci_12505652?nclick_check=1

dav7z
06-03-2009, 09:34 PM
Here's the thing dav:

I'd actually be MUCH more worried about Tyreke Evans jump shooting in the NBA than I am of T-Will's (and I've always been pretty high on Evans).

Williams actually has a really nice looking jump shot with consistent form, a very high release (thanks to his ups) and a compact motion. I think that he will improve as a shooter.

Evans has a funky arse looking shot with his legs split, off balance releasing from beside his face.

That worries me more than T-Will's does.

I will give you though that Henderson has a very smooth looking J but if I am having to choose between the two, I'm taking the guy with the nice looking J that I think will improve that also brings ball movement, court vision, rebounding, on ball D, shot blocking and a nice little swagger with him too.


Well you picked Gay , Roy, Granger , and the Bobcats went different . With you wanting those guys when thet wasn't the most popular decision. So if you have that much confidence in Williams im not one to question. And if you see more in him than Evans and Henderson the might really be special.

Slam
06-03-2009, 09:50 PM
Well you picked Gay , Roy, Granger , and the Bobcats went different . With you wanting those guys when thet wasn't the most popular decision. So if you have that much confidence in Williams im not one to question. And if you see more in him than Evans and Henderson the might really be special.
Don't listen to me mate. I also thought that Rodney Carney was going to be special (although I still think given the right opportunity he could add a lot to a team)

dav7z
06-04-2009, 07:46 AM
Slam i just can't understand the lack of love Williams is getting from any of thease mocks


http://www.nba.com/bobcats/09_mock_drafts.html

Dead_Real
06-04-2009, 09:02 AM
Probably because T-Will didn't set the college world on fire with his scoring like Steph Curry although he improved every year and they overlook him leading a top 10 team in dimes, boards and steals.

BETCATS
06-04-2009, 05:32 PM
I would prefer to see Earl Clark + 2 shooting guards with our 2nd round picks

or

us trading around and getting James Harden.

or

Terrance Williams.

I do not want Henderson. The last thing we need is someone who cannot shoot on the floor. Driving can easily be stopped by a zone defense and if you cant shoot, you cant contribute.

Slam
06-04-2009, 05:46 PM
Henderson can shoot.

BETCATS
06-04-2009, 05:50 PM
Henderson can shoot.

i have yet to see that from him. But if you say so, i guess we will see if the Bobcats pick him

bing!
06-04-2009, 05:57 PM
Driving can easily be stopped by a zone defense and if you cant shoot, you cant contribute.http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/ch_bing/adammorrison1.jpg

Ghost Kat
06-04-2009, 06:03 PM
Does anyone know if Williams is even going to work out for us?

BETCATS
06-04-2009, 06:15 PM
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/ch_bing/adammorrison1.jpg

http://www.tmonews.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/i-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

Slam
06-04-2009, 08:55 PM
Does anyone know if Williams is even going to work out for us?
My understanding is that he is scheduled to come in on the 15th.

Slam
06-04-2009, 08:59 PM
Slam i might be crazy but you please explain to me how in most if not ALL mock drafts hes picked any where from 12th back NOTHING be for twelve. In any mock i've seen.
Here you go dav. T-Will is picked any where between #12 to #30 in this over view!!

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/09_mock_drafts.html

SWedd523
06-04-2009, 09:12 PM
Here you go dav. T-Will is picked any where between #12 to #30 in this over view!!

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/09_mock_drafts.html

The scary thing is that I see more numbers in the lower part of the first from 20-30. Are we overvaluing him?

teej
06-04-2009, 09:20 PM
The scary thing is that I see more numbers in the lower part of the first from 20-30. Are we overvaluing him?

IDK, but from the way I see it you're closing these polls wayyyyy too early. Because Henderson woulda won had you left it open a little longer. With 46%...

SWedd523
06-04-2009, 10:39 PM
IDK, but from the way I see it you're closing these polls wayyyyy too early. Because Henderson woulda won had you left it open a little longer. With 46%...
The goal is to finish the mock before the actual draft. I've been doing one poll a day for the past two weeks. It's a little late to complain about that now?

teej
06-04-2009, 10:48 PM
The goal is to finish the mock before the actual draft. I've been doing one poll a day for the past two weeks. It's a little late to complain about that now?

Yeah well I've been sick, so I haven't been able to vote for the last 4 drafts. And I wasn't too thrilled before, but we didn't have any winners change like this one did.

SWedd523
06-04-2009, 10:57 PM
Yeah well I've been sick, so I haven't been able to vote for the last 4 drafts. And I wasn't too thrilled before, but we didn't have any winners change like this one did.
People should have voted earlier. The rules are one pick a day until we finish the draft. Its too late to go back and change it now.

Slam
06-05-2009, 08:10 AM
IDK, but from the way I see it you're closing these polls wayyyyy too early. Because Henderson woulda won had you left it open a little longer. With 46%...
I didn't see you take the initative to start up any mock draft polls so why don't you just sit back and let Swedd do what he is doing seeing as though he is doing it so well rather than pissing and moaning.

polarcat
06-05-2009, 11:40 AM
it also seems like henderson's stock went up more after the observer article that gave him such high praises from his bobcats' workout.

BRNC
06-05-2009, 12:00 PM
Agree...guys will go up and down from their workouts and there is no accounting for it if we're going to have our mock finished before the actual draft...Swedd is doing a good job with limited time so it is up to us to pick quickly...

dav7z
06-05-2009, 12:43 PM
The scary thing is that I see more numbers in the lower part of the first from 20-30. Are we overvaluing him?

First i think you doing a great job with the time limit . It seems very well organized.
As far as all the mocks they have been that way for the last two weeks. I like Williams and trust Slam more than any body on this board judging talent.
But if you read most of my post about this im saying trade down with the Grizz our 12th for thair 18th and 28th . More than likely we still get our man at 18th pick [Williams] and we pick up the 28th pick all so . Right now that nets a player like Ellington, Johnson, Hansborough. Either could make good role players. Even if we didn't get Williams at 18th it has to be a good guard left with all the guards in the draft. Williams is ranked the seventh best guard in this draft odds says he will be around.


All so if we picked up the 28th and packeged them with our two second rounders. I think we land back in the teens . With a chance of getting a player like Mullins , Clark another player with that kind of ability.

Slam , Sweed, guys what are your thoughts on trying to move back. Is my reasoning for moving back realistic??

Slam
06-05-2009, 01:10 PM
Slam , Sweed, guys what are your thoughts on trying to move back. Is my reasoning for moving back realistic??
If we could trade #12 for #18 and #28 and one of T-Will, Evans, Hendo or DeRozan can be had at #18 I would be ALL OVER that trade.

I'm just not sure there would be anyone at #12 the Wolves would be busting to move up and get.

teej
06-05-2009, 01:35 PM
If we get the 28, what do we do with our 2nd rounders?

And Slam, I didn't know we were doing the mock, so how was I supposed to take initiative? I love the idea, I just think it's a bit hurried, that's all.

BRNC
06-05-2009, 02:02 PM
I still think it is possible (with a team like the Hornets) to trade the two 2s for another first...there are some teams that want out of the first round so I see it as a real possibility...

dav7z
06-05-2009, 03:03 PM
If we could trade #12 for #18 and #28 and one of T-Will, Evans, Hendo or DeRozan can be had at #18 I would be ALL OVER that trade.

I'm just not sure there would be anyone at #12 the Wolves would be busting to move up and get.


Im baseing that on them having two loto picks in the first round.

SWedd523
06-05-2009, 05:31 PM
If we get the 28, what do we do with our 2nd rounders?

And Slam, I didn't know we were doing the mock, so how was I supposed to take initiative? I love the idea, I just think it's a bit hurried, that's all.

I announced it a week or so in advance and asked if anyone wanted to do it but didn't get any takers so took it upon myself to do it. Every other place I've seen does it one pick a day so it's not like I'm doing anything that isn't commonplace.

teej
06-05-2009, 06:25 PM
I announced it a week or so in advance and asked if anyone wanted to do it but didn't get any takers so took it upon myself to do it. Every other place I've seen does it one pick a day so it's not like I'm doing anything that isn't commonplace.

Sorry, I totally missed that. I would've helped out. I have a few other ideas on how to do it, but it doesn't matter now. I don't usually look at much in here anyway since I'm not a big NCAA guy, so I'd be an uninformed poster up until tourney time. And even then, not really. But that's my bad.

bing!
06-05-2009, 06:45 PM
Sorry, I totally missed that. I would've helped out. I have a few other ideas on how to do it, but it doesn't matter now. I don't usually look at much in here anyway since I'm not a big NCAA guy, so I'd be an uninformed poster up until tourney time. And even then, not really. But that's my bad.

^ there's no shame in that, I know I'm an ignoramus when it comes to US college ball (as are many on this board, save the exceptions, Lord bless their heats) :)

Ghost Kat
06-06-2009, 06:45 PM
I don't think trading down benefits this team at all. We should pick the best player at 12 and just see what deal we can make with the 2nd rounders. Or just pick someone, either way there are enough of the type of players we need on the board to pick at 12 and fill a need.

jpf_v2.0
06-06-2009, 09:54 PM
I don't think trading down benefits this team at all. We should pick the best player at 12 and just see what deal we can make with the 2nd rounders. Or just pick someone, either way there are enough of the type of players we need on the board to pick at 12 and fill a need.

I agree with this. Unless some team happens to knock us on our butts with an offer so good, the only way I trade #12 is to move up and I don't see us being able to do that without parting with more pieces than we really can afford.

polarcat
06-06-2009, 10:16 PM
i also think we should stay at 12 or move up, not down. as is usually the case, some player will fall to us at 12 that will help us. this team is a couple of solid bench/fringe starters and 1 all-star away from running with the big boys year in and year out. i'm sure there will be a few studs that come out of this draft, the only thing is that i don't think people know who those players are right now. the 2009 draft doesn't have the usual top 3 or 4 guys and then the next tier and so on. every player has flaws and concerns in their game including griffin, though he's probably the only safe pick in this draft. whether it beet thabeet's questionable offensive output, harden's size and ability to become a dynamic scorer, or derozan's boom or bust potential.....so many players in this draft could be great. i hate to use a lottery pick on a player that will only amount to an energy depth guy at the nba level, but we do need them. we have 2 second rounders and there's always a team or two that is looking to sell a pick in the 19-26 range. i say take bpa (sans pg at 12) and then if a solid player that fits this team is sliding and we can jump back into the twenties to take him, why not. bottom line is that it's not likely that our dwade, brandon roy or chris bosh will be there at 12 to give us our perennial all-star and become the face of the franchise, but our andre iguodala or travis outlaw could be. i don't see hoarding picks and moving down as that great of a formula for this draft.

jpf_v2.0
06-06-2009, 10:26 PM
I've been looking at teams that might be willing to deal picks in that range and came up with the following list:

* Detroit at 15; have seen a few sites say they don't want to take on another guaranteed contract because they have big plans for free agency. However it's likely they're looking for a team that would be able to take on a contract as well which would rule us out.

* New Orleans at 21; the consensus opinion seems to be that they're looking to deal this pick for cash or 2nd rounders as to not take on a guaranteed rookie scale deal while trying to shed salary. As with Detroit, it's possible they're looking for a team to take on salary to obtain the pick.

* Minnesota at 28 (or less likely, 18 ); have seen speculation that they won't keep all three of their picks, question then becomes what are they wanting for whichever one they are willing to part with?

Then there's always the possibility that teams like OKC, Sacremento, and Chicago could be tempted into parting with the latter of their second first rounders, but at what cost?

If what I've seen is true, or one of the other teams is willing to part with their pick, is our front office ready to pull the trigger to get one of these picks?

spectre
06-07-2009, 07:31 AM
Some of those might be willing to trade a late 1st for our 2nds (and maybe a future 2nd)...but I don't see us coughing up any cash to get one.

Ghost Kat
06-14-2009, 11:29 PM
I think it's pretty clear to the people on this site this team really really really needs a back up SG. It all depends on how this draft falls. If a big name drops worth picking..well... I guess those two 2nd's stand for a chance to either jump up around 20th maybe 25th or trying to pick from the left overs at that point.