What about a trade with Minnesota?

[jazzer89]

Not sure if this is a thread somewhere else, but I bet they would love to do a trade like Augustin, Nazr, + the 12th for Miller 6 and 18. At 6 we could get harden, curry, hill, derozan, or evans. At 18 we could get a variety of guys that could be great off the bench. We get rid of Nazr, and Minnesota gets a great PG in Augustin plus whoever they want at 12. I love this trade. And the trade works out i checked with the trade machine on ESPN.

Thoughts......

[ohara831]

Wrong idea with Nazr. He's not an asset. That contract is horrid and we would have to pay people to take him. There has even been talk of trading #12 to get people to TAKE Nazr. If we did trade with Minn. it would be #12 for #18 and #28 (or whatever their last pick of Round 1. is, think it's #28) Now I would do that in a heartbeat. Add the 2 Second rounders to #28 and move up a few more spots. We could get 2 pretty good players at #18 and something around #21 or so. If only Minny would do it. But they might. Considereing they could get #6 and #12, they would be pretty happy I'd think.

[jazzer89]

I think a deal like brewer, cardinal + 6th. for Augustin, Nazr + 12th. I think they would take that deal. We would move up using Augustin and get rid of Nazr. Minnesota just moves back 6 spots and get the PG they covet in Augustin. We basically replace Nazr with another unproductive big guy who has 1 less year on his contract. Brewer could become a good player if he can recover from his injuries fully. I like this trade better and i DO believe Minnesota would do it.

[jpf_v2.0]

What is it you see T-Wolves getting in that deal? They get no value, really look at the trade from their perspective...

* trading down six spots in the draft
* taking on Mohammed's absurd contract which lasts a year longer than Cardinal's bad contract
* losing Brewer who they probably still consider a piece to build on
* all they get of any value is Augustin and arguably they can find a player of equal talent at #6 in a player who would be a year further away from free agency, and do so without adding an additional year on a bad contract and losing a building block for their future.

There's no value in that trade for them.

[jpf_v2.0]

BTW- it's awesome that you're so enthusiastic about looking for ways to improve the team. I just think you need to step back and look at the trades more from the other teams point of view, not just how it would improve the Bobcats.

[Chef]

BTW- it's awesome that you're so enthusiastic about looking for ways to improve the team. I just think you need to step back and look at the trades more from the other teams point of view, not just how it would improve the Bobcats.

90% of the trades posted on this site should take this advice.

[docend24]

I'm generally against trading Nazr and against trading DJ as well but Nazr, DJ + 12th for 6th,18th + Miller. I'm not sure about Miller's contract situation he would be probably just one year rental. I'm not all-in for this trade but Iwouldn't be pissed off uf something like this happens. Still would prefer to find a way how to keep DJ.

[jpf_v2.0]

I'm generally against trading Nazr and against trading DJ as well but Nazr, DJ + 12th for 6th,18th + Miller. I'm not sure about Miller's contract situation he would be probably just one year rental. I'm not all-in for this trade but Iwouldn't be pissed off uf something like this happens. Still would prefer to find a way how to keep DJ.

We'd be trading Nazr and DJ's contracts for Miller's contract which is about a million dollars more than theirs combined. The only brought spot in all that is that Miller's contract ends a year sooner than Nazr's.

Then we'd be adding 2 million more from the draft picks in guaranteed rookie contracts, so a total of 3 million more of salary with us already approaching the luxury tax. Not sure I see that happening.

If we make a move with Nazr it's to get his contract off the books, not to add more salary in its place even if the contract does expire sooner. I just can't see the team wanting to go near the luxury tax threshold while Johnson is looking for a buyer.

[ohara831]

http://www.drafttek.com/NBARound12009-wif1.asp

Here's a take on a trade which I had not thought of before. Interesting, but not sure if it's worth it.

[spectre]

http://www.drafttek.com/NBARound12009-wif1.asp

Here's a take on a trade which I had not thought of before. Interesting, but not sure if it's worth it.

Not really a fan of that one. Who would we target with the 6th? Unless it's Hill we'd most likely be adding another PG/SG/hybrid SF to the roster.

Besides, I think we can get more than that for Mek. Couple that's been proposed by other teams' fans on RealGM:

Gasol/4th (they now have the 2nd)/filler for Mek

3rd/26th/filler for Mek.

The first we get a talented big and is my favorite (and probably not doable!). The 2nd guarantees us the best SG in the draft in Harden, an extra late first and bucketloads of capspace.

[ohara831]

I would likely take both of those over the Drafttek one. But I do like getting out of a 6 yr. Okafor commitment for only a 2 yr Miller one.

[teej]

With the Memphis one we could maybe work that into a megatrade, with Mek, DJ and a trade exception since Mek's BYC, for Gasol, Jaric, and the #2. Then we take Rubio, and LB gets his 2 PG's and we have a way to keep Ray for less money most likely.

Thoughts?

[SWedd523]

With the Memphis one we could maybe work that into a megatrade, with Mek, DJ and a trade exception since Mek's BYC, for Gasol, Jaric, and the #2. Then we take Rubio, and LB gets his 2 PG's and we have a way to keep Ray for less money most likely.

Thoughts?
If we got Rubio I would actually rather trade Ray. And the only way we trade for Jaric is if his wife makes an appearance and every home game! ;)
http://www.maxitmag.com/images/stories/loosewires/dailybabes/mar07/adriana_lima_ass.jpg

[teej]

If we got Rubio I would actually rather trade Ray. And the only way we trade for Jaric is if his wife makes an appearance and every home game! ;)
http://www.maxitmag.com/images/stories/loosewires/dailybabes/mar07/adriana_lima_ass.jpg
We can't trade Ray before the draft though. And DJ is the better guy salary-wise unless you want Greg Buckner. :rolleyes:

[jpf_v2.0]

With the Memphis one we could maybe work that into a megatrade, with Mek, DJ and a trade exception since Mek's BYC, for Gasol, Jaric, and the #2. Then we take Rubio, and LB gets his 2 PG's and we have a way to keep Ray for less money most likely.

Thoughts?

I didn't think you could use trade exceptions in multi-player deals. :confused:

[teej]

I didn't think you could use trade exceptions in multi-player deals. :confused:

I don't know, I'm not an expert on that.

Instead maybe we could pick up Dontell's option and trade him? or sign and trade Cartier? it's a tiny number we need to make up.

[jpf_v2.0]

Looks like you can't but you can...

http://www.netsdaily.com/blog/?p=569


TE’s can’t be combined with players in deals, but multi-player deals can be broken into pieces and a TE used in one part of it.

[SWedd523]

We can't trade Ray before the draft though. And DJ is the better guy salary-wise unless you want Greg Buckner. :rolleyes:
Works if you pick for each other. ;)

[teej]

Works if you pick for each other. ;)

I don't care as long as we get Rubio and Gasol, who I think have worked with each other before. And Rubio will be better than Ray or DJ. Probably combined.

[jpf_v2.0]

I don't care as long as we get Rubio and Gasol, who I think have worked with each other before. And Rubio will be better than Ray or DJ. Probably combined.

That is an interesting idea...I like it!

[spectre]

Works if you pick for each other. ;)

So what happens when Felton says he won't go? :rolleyes:

[SWedd523]

So what happens when Felton says he won't go? :rolleyes:
We tie a burger around his neck and let May loose on him until he finally agrees to leave.




Yes, I am AND was being sarcastic. I don't think they'll make that trade.