View Full Version : Pendergraph in the 2nd?
dnbman
06-12-2009, 11:52 AM
PF from Gonzaga. Anybody know anything about the kid?
He is from Arizona St....Josh Heytvelt is Gonzaga...if we keep the seconds and do not draft a PF with the first they (along with Taj Gibson if available) should be considered IMO...
Pendergraph is high energy type player...good work ethic...but needs to work close to the basket to be effective...
Heytvelt is more offensively well rounded and can shoot mid-range...brings less defensively and some off court issues but seems to have turned around...
Gibson (who we actually had in) may be the best athlete (although I think Pendergraph is pretty good also) is more defense oriented and could become a shot blocker...again he'd have to work inside for any offense...
I've seen Gibson and Pendergraph play but not Heytvelt....
Draftexpress has write ups on all three...hope that helps...
I love me some Taj Gibson. I watched a lot of him last year (because of Mayo) and this year (because of DeRozan) and I like him a lot.
Depending on what we do with #12, my choices in the 2nd round are:
Adrien
Gibson
Christmas
James
in that order.
SWedd523
06-12-2009, 12:54 PM
Pendergraph is from Arizona State... The fact that you didn't k ow that shows how mediocre he is. I've seenhim play a few times and I was never impressed.
He's tall but too skinny
He's athletic but doesn't take advantage of it
He's skilled but never seems to put it all together
He always seems to disappear and never gave Harden the help when he needed it.
Taj Gibson is better but suffers the same fate sometimes. He's big, athletc, and skilled but never dominates like he should/could. This year he got a little more consistent, but he hasn't progressed as nicely as I thought he would with Mayo's departure.
Heytvelt I do like. He's always been consistent, save for that stretch where he was having some personal issues. He has range, uses his athleticism to his advantage, and is a tough, semi-bullish player. I remember him getting the better of Hansbrough when they played, and it wasn't even close. His biggest issue is his somewhat lacking defense. I wouldn't care though because he'd be a spark off the bench with DJ.
Pendergraph has some all around skills. Gibson is defensve. Heytvelt is offensive. Gibson will probably be the highest pick because of his potential, but I would take Heytvelt before the others.
Dead_Real
06-12-2009, 12:55 PM
Dionte Christmas or Taj would be excellent additions to our 2nd unit especially Christmas with his stroke.
swedd...I'd go with Heytvelt also since I believe the reports that he now has his head screwed on...of the three he is also my choice (I think since he is well rounded offensively...LB will get his defense up...I also think he is the only one of the three that could also work at both 4 and 5) but I've never had the chance to see him...and I'm unclear about how he broke his foot (year before I think)...have you seen him (your impression?) and do you know the story on his foot?
SWedd523
06-12-2009, 04:50 PM
I've seen him play about 10 times (it's hard to catch Gonzaga games) but he plays just like Brad Miller or Okur. Most of his game is at the high post running the pick and roll--something that would be very nice off the bench behind Diaw.
As for his injury... I believe it was a stress fracture in his foot, but don't quote me on that. I know it affected him his Junior year and didn't really get over it until this year and his game really flourished.
I'd be more concerned about his felony drug charges haha but I think he's grown up and that won't be an issue anymore.
Swedd: Any love for Adrien?
(considering our needs)
SWedd523
06-13-2009, 01:07 AM
Swedd: Any love for Adrien?
(considering our needs)
Jeff Adrien from UCONN?
I think if Thabeet shared his mentality then he'd be the #1 pick this year. Adrien is a big, tough bruiser type in the same mold as DeJuan Blair. I think he's a safer bet considering Blair's knees. However, I don't like his attitude but that's just my personal opinion.
What are his measurements? I'd take him with our second pick (if Hansbrough isn't available) if he's tall enough.
I've seen him listed as 6'6' (I could not find combine numbers for him so I'm not sure he was invited)...not great for a PF...and I'm guessing there are very mixed feelings (scouts) about him some boards have him in the second round and others do not have him drafted at all...
Just found them...
Player Height (no shoes) Height (shoes) Weight Wingspan Standing Reach Body Fat %
Jeff Adrien (http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jeff-adrien),
UConn 6' 5.25" 6' 6.5" 235.2 7' 2" 8' 11.5" 7.9
Jeff Adrien from UCONN?
I think if Thabeet shared his mentality then he'd be the #1 pick this year. Adrien is a big, tough bruiser type in the same mold as DeJuan Blair. I think he's a safer bet considering Blair's knees. However, I don't like his attitude but that's just my personal opinion.
What are his measurements? I'd take him with our second pick (if Hansbrough isn't available) if he's tall enough.
6'6 1/2" in shoes.......................but he's 235lbs, has a 7'2" span and an 8'11 1/2" reach.
He also repped 16 pumps on the bar.
Fact is: Mofo's an OX! Blue collar, dirty work, bad ass doer. He's Samuel L Jackson..........if SLJ was an NBA player. I really think that LB would do wonders for him.
To me, he's Ron Artest.............if Ron Artests head was on straight.
Far to say.........I love me some Adrien.
I've seen him listed as 6'6' (I could not find combine numbers for him so I'm not sure he was invited)...not great for a PF...and I'm guessing there are very mixed feelings (scouts) about him some boards have him in the second round and others do not have him drafted at all...
Just found them...
Player Height
(no shoes) Height
(shoes) Weight Wingspan Standing
Reach Body Fat %
Jeff Adrien (http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jeff-adrien),
UConn 6' 5.25" 6' 6.5" 235.2 7' 2" 8' 11.5" 7.9
Have you seen him play BRNC?
What's your take? Could he bring something we lack?
couple of times...he has game but looked smallish (and now I know why)...I think he is (seemed) to be a total paint player...not overly athletic but a good college player...if I had a pick between him and Hansbrough, Pendergraph, and Heytvelt he'd be my last choice...
couple of times...he has game but looked smallish (and now I know why)...I think he is (seemed) to be a total paint player...not overly athletic but a good college player...if I had a pick between him and Hansbrough, Pendergraph, and Heytvelt he'd be my last choice...
To me, he was the opposite to Thabeet. Thabeet got his boards because he was tall and had crazy length. Adrien got his because he knows positioning. He knows how to out work dudes. He also has a sick 18ft (and in) J. He's also a VERY emotional (like the Dude) type player - the type others feed from.
I also think he's the type that would bust his nut during practice and would quickly be a fan fav.
Respect your stance and agree that between him and TH it would be a hard call, but if TH is off the board, to me, The Ox (Adrien) is THE guy in the 2nd round.
I agree TH is gone in the first...if we keep the seconds I'm more than a little intrigued by Heytvelt though...I know he had a problem but the feed-back is it is no longer a problem...and swedd likes him (I have not seen him play just tape)...he strikes as being more coachable (now) and has a good offensive game (would help with Diop in the game) and I think he can play the 4 or 5 (a real bonus)...
Pendergraph is more of an enigma...I think he has the skills and ability to be a good player but gets passive at times...also he is used to zone defenses so he may have some initial trouble...but he is a good athlete (for his size) and could be a good player with good coaching...problem is he reminds me of Twiggy in that he would'nt be much help the first year...
Swedd...if you had to pick between Heytvelt, Pendergraph, and Adrien which one would you pick?
SWedd523
06-13-2009, 02:42 AM
I agree TH is gone in the first...if we keep the seconds I'm more than a little intrigued by Heytvelt though...I know he had a problem but the feed-back is it is no longer a problem...and swedd likes him (I have not seen him play just tape)...he strikes as being more coachable (now) and has a good offensive game (would help with Diop in the game) and I think he can play the 4 or 5 (a real bonus)...
Pendergraph is more of an enigma...I think he has the skills and ability to be a good player but gets passive at times...also he is used to zone defenses so he may have some initial trouble...but he is a good athlete (for his size) and could be a good player with good coaching...problem is he reminds me of Twiggy in that he would'nt be much help the first year...
Swedd...if you had to pick between Heytvelt, Pendergraph, and Adrien which one would you pick?
Slam:
Adrien is definitely an ox. Dude is nothing but iron and has been successful mostly by outworking his opponents. Adrien was the only post presence UCONN had in the postseason while Thabeet was busy watching butterflies--kind of sad considering he's almost a foot shorter. I don't want you to think I don't like him. He definitely has the fire that I love and wish Mek and Diaw had. I would gladly take Adrien if he was 2-3 inches taller but I really can't see him being successful alongside Diaw and Mek. Our frontline is small as it is, Adrien wouldn't help as much as he could in a place like LA.
BRNC:
Heytvelt, Adrien, Gibson, Pendergraph in that order. Heytvelt gets my nod because I think he plays a game that LB would love and at 6'11 with a 7'2 wingspan, he's plenty big.
krazyrumpshaker
06-13-2009, 08:38 AM
I have not seen Heytvelt play at all, but from what i am hearing he sound like another Brian Scalabrine? that wouldnt be a bad pick for the 2nd round.
I really can't see him being successful alongside Diaw and Mek. Our frontline is small as it is, Adrien wouldn't help as much as he could in a place like LA.
I don't see him as a starter, more as a grunt guy off the bench and someone who, on occasion, might be able to fill in at the SF spot when Crash misses a couple of games each season and can provide some spark/intensity.
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