Pistons' fan's 3 team trade idea.

[cbraendle]

I'm a Pistons fan, and what would you guys think about this 3 team trade?

Pistons get:
Carlos Boozer and Emeka Okafor

Jazz get:
Jason Maxiell and Pistons 1st round pick.

Bobcats get:
Rip Hamilton and Pistons 2nd round pick.

I'm sure the Pistons could throw in an additional 2nd round pick, or a future 1st round pick, or perhaps an Arron Afflalo.

What does everyone think?

[dnbman]

That's pretty terrible for us. Hamilton makes almost as much money as Okafor and would provide a lot less for out team. Okafor is one of the only real inside presences we have. Not to mention, Okafor is still entering his prime, while Hamilton is going downhill.

Affalo or a pick would make it interesting, but I'd have to say no.

BTW... teams aren't allowed to trade consecutive 1st rounders. So, if Utah got next year's 1st rounder, we'd have to wait to '12 for ours.

[cbraendle]

Yea, i've been thinking about it, and what about this?

Pistons get: Okafor, Gerald Wallace

Jazz get: Rip Hamilton and Pistons 1st round pick

Bobcats get: Carlos Boozer and Tayshaun Prince and Pistons 2nd round pick

How about that?

[SirBobcat]

ROTFLMAO! Pistons get Boozer AND Okafor!? This is pure laughs!

[davcbow]

ROTFLMAO! Pistons get Boozer AND Okafor!? This is pure laughs!


Ahhhh simply put "No f&cking way" we are a young team not idiots....:cool:

[WAM9]

Yea, i've been thinking about it, and what about this?

Pistons get: Okafor, Gerald Wallace

Jazz get: Rip Hamilton and Pistons 1st round pick

Bobcats get: Carlos Boozer and Tayshaun Prince and Pistons 2nd round pick

How about that?

No thanks on the first deal. Not much of a deal for anyone but Detroit, huh?

Also, why would we want to basically trade Oak and Wallace for Boozer and Tayshaun? Especially when Boozer may just be a 1 year rental. Silly.

[teej]

Both trades absolutely suck for us...but Dumars would love them!

[mrtarheel]

I read on realgm some cat proposed Diaw for Boozer, then did a 3 way with Cats, Detriot and NO Hornets.
Our lineup was

Dj, Rip, Wallace, Boozer and Okafor. I could live with that but somehow we would need to keep Felts for starting pg and backup sg.

[davcbow]

Id rather keep what we got....:cool:

[BETCATS]

since this is the room for crazy ideas:


Bobcats get:
Carlos Boozer
Utah's 2nd round pick

Utah gets:
Okafor
Bell

then we sign iverson to a mid-level or minimum (whatever, as long as we get him) / find a way to keep Raymond (ie trading one of our centers to Houston for cash), then sign some D-League prospects for depth and make Lexy earn his cash...

you guys got a problem with that:paddle:

[jpf_v2.0]

Other than Houston being over the cap and couldn't trade for one of our centers without a third team being involved to take some salary or giving us salary back....

[Chef]

great move for this year. but, if he doesn't resign with us (which he probably wouldn't when high market teams will be offering good money) next year we are screwed.

[SWedd523]

you guys got a problem with that:paddle:
Yes. Yes I do. :facepalm:


:fighting:

[BETCATS]

Yes. Yes I do. :facepalm:


:fighting:

i was kidding :shrug:

But it was no more improbable then any other 'situation'......
We wont be getting Boozer, the front office doesnt have the balls to do it.

[SWedd523]

We wont be getting Boozer, the front office doesnt have the balls to do it.
Thank God. ;)

[BETCATS]

Thank God. ;)
yeah, he would really only help us for one year.

Im just desperate to have us make the playoffs (and not get swept once we are their). Diaw is good, but Boozer is (slightly) better.

[teej]

Diaw is good, but Boozer is (slightly) better.
:mad: You are wrong. :paddle:

Nah, I really think 3D is better though...

[SWedd523]

:mad: You are wrong. :paddle:

Nah, I really think 3D is better though...
No. You're the whore to Diaw's ball.

[bing!]

Go one day without keeping up with the threads an you're lost... what balls?

[SWedd523]

Go one day without keeping up with the threads an you're lost... what balls?
I was trying to play off of ballwhore because teej is a Diaw homer.


Guess it didn't work so well... :shrug:

[teej]

I was trying to play off of ballwhore because teej is a Diaw homer.

teej is a Bobcats homer

Raja, Crash, 3d, Ray, DJ (to an extent), Nazzy, Mek (sometimes), etc.

But I like Diaw's style of play more for us than Boozer's...and Diaw is smarter.

[SWedd523]

teej is a Bobcats homer

Raja, Crash, 3d, Ray, DJ (to an extent), Nazzy, Mek (sometimes), etc.

But I like Diaw's style of play more for us than Boozer's...and Diaw is smarter.
Boozer is better.

[teej]

Boozer is better.

not for us

Diaw initiates our offense, something boozer is not capable of.

[Dead_Real]

If Boozer is healthy you wouldn't take him over Diaw teej? give me the aggressive scorer & rebounding PF

[Black]

who will play 65 of 82 games, and bolt


*edit*

also, thank god i am now Sean Singletary instead of whack ass Jeff McInnis

[SWedd523]

not for us

Diaw initiates our offense, something boozer is not capable of.


who will play 65 of 82 games, and bolt

I'm not talking about for us. And even if I was, Boozer is still probably better.



You always say Diaw initiates the offense. If we're going to be paying Felts $6mil + we need to let him do his job. Boozer is a 20/10 guy. You don't pass on that.



(That said, I'm not advocating a trade for him as we're all aware he's going to bolt after this coming year. I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing)

[teej]

I'm not talking about for us. And even if I was, Boozer is still probably better.



You always say Diaw initiates the offense. If we're going to be paying Felts $6mil + we need to let him do his job. Boozer is a 20/10 guy. You don't pass on that.



(That said, I'm not advocating a trade for him as we're all aware he's going to bolt after this coming year. I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing)

How much we pay Felts is irrelevant. Diaw is a POINT Forward, Boozer is a POWER Forward. And no, I'd take Diaw over Boozer even if Boozer was healthy and signed to a long term deal for the 'Cats. Sorry.

[SWedd523]

How much we pay Felts is irrelevant. Diaw is a POINT Forward, Boozer is a POWER Forward. And no, I'd take Diaw over Boozer even if Boozer was healthy and signed to a long term deal for the 'Cats. Sorry.
I'll take the 20/10, 2 time all-star, gold medalist.

:shrug:

[Fred Williamson]

I'll take the guy who's the smartest player in this league and can give me 15/8/6.

Diaw is just perfect for this team. Him and Gerald fit so well together. Remember all those no look passes from Diaw to Gerald and Mek? I don't want to miss that.

[Chef]

I'll take the guy who's the smartest player in this league and can give me 15/8/6.

Diaw is just perfect for this team. Him and Gerald fit so well together. Remember all those no look passes from Diaw to Gerald and Mek? I don't want to miss that.

teej: respectfully, you are crazy

schnitzel: what good is it to have our 4 threading the needle to mek who couldn't catch H1N1 in Mexico City. we have no post scoring at all. plus, don't forget that boris had plenty of games where he had 4 or 5 or more TO's

[ziggy]

teej: respectfully, you are crazy

schnitzel: what good is it to have our 4 threading the needle to mek who couldn't catch H1N1 in Mexico City. we have no post scoring at all. plus, don't forget that boris had plenty of games where he had 4 or 5 or more TO's


That sentence is overflowing with awesomeness. :rock::bowdown:

[Fred Williamson]

teej: respectfully, you are crazy

schnitzel: what good is it to have our 4 threading the needle to mek who couldn't catch H1N1 in Mexico City. we have no post scoring at all. plus, don't forget that boris had plenty of games where he had 4 or 5 or more TO's

Boozer also has a lot of them.

C'mon guys, you all know how much LB loves Boris and Gerald. I think both of them have an "untouchable" status and the only guy I see, who can be traded for Boozer, is Mek.

[Chef]

completely unrelated. man, i sure am glad we passed on anthony randolph last year. i know summer league means nothing, but come on. a scoring pf, naw, we need another undersized guard. good call.

[SWedd523]

THE QUESTION IS:

Who is better?

not

Who is better for our team?


I'll repeat. I'm not saying I'm wanting him on our team. All I'm saying is that he is BETTER. There really isn't any argument there. It's perfectly okay to like our Bobcats players more, but please drop the homerism and open your eyes :facepalm:

[teej]

You can't compare them, because on most team's Diaw's a SF or even a SG on the Magic or Cavs. Their different players. It's easier to compare Crash to Boozer than it is Diaw. Diaw is a big 3 and Crash is a small 4. And 20/10 depends a lot on his teammates too...he's never really been on a "bad" team that I remember.

And Chef, I take that as a compliment...people said the same things about Einstein, Benjamin Franklin, and even at times Larry Brown.

[Chef]

You can't compare them, because on most team's Diaw's a SF or even a SG on the Magic or Cavs. Their different players. It's easier to compare Crash to Boozer than it is Diaw. Diaw is a big 3 and Crash is a small 4. And 20/10 depends a lot on his teammates too...he's never really been on a "bad" team that I remember.

And Chef, I take that as a compliment...people said the same things about Einstein, Benjamin Franklin, and even at times Larry Brown.

and stalin, and jung and manson and even at times dennis rodman

[teej]

and stalin, and jung and manson and even at times dennis rodman

LOL yea, but I'm just saying crazy isn't always bad.

You start your team around Boozer and I'll start mine around Diaw. K?

[Chef]

i'd rather start my team around wade or bron next year!

[teej]

i'd rather start my team around wade or bron next year!

But that's not who we're talking bout. :biggrin:

we in here talkin bout Boozer? I mean, listen, we talkin bout Boozer. Not a Lebron, not a D-wade, not a Bosh, we talkin bout Boozer. Not a LeBron, not...not the LeBron that we out there and wish for, and lose every game like we're the Clippers, not Lebron, we talkin bout Boozer, man. I mean how silly is that. And we talkin bout Boozer...Whatta we talkin bout? Boozer? We talkin bout Boozer man. We talkin bout Boozer, we talkin bout Boozer. We aint talkin bout LeBron, we talkin about Boozer man......How the hell can we make our team better with Boozer?

[davcbow]

Practice? we are talkin about practice.... Whats Boozers attitude like? anything like Iverson?

[teej]

Practice? we are talkin about practice.... Whats Boozers attitude like? anything like Iverson?

Well he reportedly had an agreement with Cleveland to resign then backed out of it for more money with Utah back in '02?? I think. Other than that idk bout anything.

[SWedd523]

Well he reportedly had an agreement with Cleveland to resign then backed out of it for more money with Utah back in '02?? I think. Other than that idk bout anything.
Yeah he won't miss practice. But he'll give you his word on a new contract then turn around and back out on ya

[Walt Cronkite]

I love how Gordon Gund never gets slammed for (against his GM's advice) letting Boozer out of his deal because he thought he'd be able to sign him back for below market value (reputedly the mle).

[Chef]

Practice? we are talkin about practice.... Whats Boozers attitude like? anything like Iverson?

considering he's a dukie, his attitude is probably sassy especially when he can't find his hand bag

[teej]

considering he's a dukie, his attitude is probably sassy especially when he can't find his hand bag

LMFAO

I guess you think the same of Hendo then too chef?

[Chef]

eh, hendo seems like a great kid. i work at duke and he came into the office i work several times. i was just kidding for laughs. but, when he was in college i always had a hate hate relationship with boozer. same with battier (wrinkly head). as a terps fan, i loved how the refs gifted them the final four game. but, as a professional fan both boozer and battier are quality players.

[WAM9]

I love how Gordon Gund never gets slammed for (against his GM's advice) letting Boozer out of his deal because he thought he'd be able to sign him back for below market value (reputedly the mle).

Exactly...whenever this gets brought up Boozer is the bad guy but it wasn't all him in any way, shape or form.

[teej]

Exactly...whenever this gets brought up Boozer is the bad guy but it wasn't all him in any way, shape or form.

He was dumb enough to shake Gund's hand...he didn't have to do that.

[Walt Cronkite]

Shaking hands because you want to get paid is stupid? Boozer's agent deserves more blame.

[teej]

Shaking hands because you want to get paid is stupid? Boozer's agent deserves more blame.

Shaking hands on an agreement to pay you well below what you're worth is stupid.

If Ray shook Rod's hand on a 4 yr, 16 mil. contract, that's stupid. But Rod believes him. Then Ray goes out and signs a 4 yr, 40 mil with Portland...that's Ray backing out.

[Walt Cronkite]

That's stupid of Rod too. The difference is that we aren't talking about Rob in this scenario, but Bob. Gordon Gund is the owner, not the GM. HE let Boozer out of his contract.

[davcbow]

That's stupid of Rod too. The difference is that we aren't talking about Rob in this scenario, but Bob. Gordon Gund is the owner, not the GM. HE let Boozer out of his contract.

Hey man just heard on the news that your name sake Walter Cronkite died today....:cool:

[Walt Cronkite]

Yea, America loses a phenomenal broadcast journalist. :(

[spectre]

RIP Mr. Cronkite. Back then when we listened to Cronkite we knew we were hearing the truth. Either times have radically changed or we were all fools for believing the media would tell us nothing but the truth ever...but he was highly respected nontheless.

Give me 3D any day and every day. Boozer puts it in the basket so most are going to lean his direction...but give me smart players who can initiate the offense (yeah I repeated it!) any day.

In regards to paying Felton 6 per or any other PG not named Paul or Nash...unless a team is filled with players having high BBIQ and good passing ability a PG isn't enough to make the offense flow. Boris & Crash are a perfect tandem; if you bring in Booz then IMO we need to replace at least 2 if not three of the starters to make it work.

[Beekizzle]

I don't like it... why do the Pistons end up with Okafor and Boozer. They would be the CLEAR winners in this trade and we would be down one more big. Does not make any sense at all.