PF Options

[blazenheat09]

Looks like the Grizz withdrew their offer from Warrick...I feel like he would be a great backup addition for our team as he averaged 11 and 5 last season. What do yall think?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4354901

[GoBobs]

I am kinda hoping Lexy is like a bigger version of Danny Granger/Deeke who can give us 15-20 min next season

[davcbow]

It would all depend on how good at defence he is then on how much money we could afford since it has already been said that we WILL NOT go into lux tax hell...:cool:

[SirBobcat]

We need to go on the action and not expect for someone to develop when we want.

I'd love to see them give Warrick the MLE and be a viable backup to Diaw.

[SirBobcat]

And they won't...they are well under the luxury tax according to the numbers of this report (http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/ericsmith/2009/07/07/salary-cap-and-luxury-tax-announced/)

Here's a quick bit (for lazy people like myself)
"The NBA just sent out a release in the last 30 minutes informing teams that the Salary Cap for this season will come in at $57.7 million. The tax level for the 2009-10 season has been established as well: $69.92 million."

[azfollower]

I for one would love to have Warrick. He seems like a really good frontcort option with a lot of talent and athleticism.

[SWedd523]

I for one would love to have Warrick. He seems like a really good frontcort option with a lot of talent and athleticism.
I think he'd be a really solid backup for Crash with the ability to provide some athleticism at the 4. My only issue with him is what seems to be a lack of BBIQ so I don't know if he's really on our radar.

[GoBobs]

he might be a good role player but not worth the mid level. We should only get him if he is a bargin. I would still probably see the minutes go to developing Ajinca though he played well in that game where we almost came back on the pistons.

[blazenheat09]

I agree that the mle may be a little too much. He can however play the 3 some which will give us some versatility with the 2nd unit. Also would provide UPS someone to learn from along with crash

[ohara831]

I think Warrick would be a great pick up for the Cats. We could really stand the depth as we are certainly lacking right now.

[teej]

We could really stand the depth as we are certainly lacking right now.

That goes for every position but center, really.

[tamburello]

I'd rather sign Glen Davis for full MLE. We can even sign Warrick with part of it but I don't believe he's the guy we need.

[Scottley Crue]

I'd rather sign Glen Davis for full MLE. We can even sign Warrick with part of it but I don't believe he's the guy we need.
I don't really believe Warrick's the guy, either. He'd certainly bring more talent, but I believe he's more a 3/4 hybrid, which UPS seems to be.

I'd be extremely hesitant to sign someone else to a full MLE deal unless you could keep the years at three or below. We've got three guys like that on the roster and we're trying to dump at least two of those contracts. More inexpesnsive options could be bringing back Juwan (he did play well but I wonder about him holding up as a primary backup all season) or someone like Diogu (gets good numbers in limited minutes, but is that a mirage?). Now, if Big Baby will sign for something like 3 years and 10-12 million, I say go for it. I think that's fair value for a solid backup PF. But the previous options seem to be what we may go with.

[SWedd523]

Well there's no way we'd go after Warrick with the full MLE. No way in Hell is he worth that.

We'd go after him with 2 or 3 million a year for 3 years. Something like a 3year/8mil deal would be fair for what he brings to the table.

[Weezy21]

file:///C:/Users/Owner/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpghttp://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper344/stills/8k2mt687.jpg

He does look good in orange....however like some have said before, big baby would be a far better pick up plus we already have wallace an UPS...i think he's a much better SF than PF...but thats just me

[Weezy21]

wow....my bad...i thot it would only show the pic, not the URL

[azfollower]

My only issue with him is what seems to be a lack of BBIQ so I don't know if he's really on our radar.

I think that having Larry Brown as a coach could partially solve this, so I definitely think that he's worth it.

[spectre]

Drew Gooden's twitter page:


I will be making my decision tomorrow on which team I will be playing for! Stay tuned...about 17 hours ago (http://twitter.com/DrewGooden/status/2833841049) from web

Bucks' RGM board thinks it's between them and us which is probably right. Neither of the other two teams (Detroit, Cleveland) have much if any money left.

[ALong13]

Have we even shown interest in Drew Gooden...I don't think he comes to Charlotte, I wouldn't mind if he did, but I just don't see it happening...

[Weezy21]

Have we even shown interest in Drew Gooden...I don't think he comes to Charlotte, I wouldn't mind if he did, but I just don't see it happening...

sounds like it to me based off his twitter account

"Pistons, Bucks, Cav's, Bobcats. Which team is the best fit for me?"

http://twitter.com/DrewGooden/status/2691625376

[SWedd523]

Reports are now that he's deciding between CHARLOTTE, Dallas, and Cleveland. Cleveland doesn't really need him though so I see it being between us and Dallas. We might get somebody!

EDIT: Looks like he chose Dallas, just posted it on Twitter...

[teej]

Dammit.

Big Baby?

[spectre]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4356529

1 year 5 million plus. They can have him for that.

[Weezy21]

Dammit.

Big Baby?

i hope! but highly doubt it...i can see the celtics matching watever we offer him

[GOBOBCATS24]

well we got screwed over yet again. I just wish we could sign one person this offseason. crap I mean Ryan Hollins is still out there lets yank him up for like one dollar a year. nobody wants to come here. this is bull

[Scottley Crue]

i hope! but highly doubt it...i can see the celtics matching watever we offer him
They might match for Big Baby, but then again they brought in 'Sheed. I would think that'd make Davis a little more expendable. Worth a shot unless he wants something like the full MLE.

[azfollower]

Regardless of what he wants, Big Baby would be a great fit as an actual big, since most of our PF options are more finesse players.

[LiquidWayno]

Davis would bring us decent playoff experience for as young as he is, as well as a threat from midrange and big body that won't be muscled around. As long as he doesn't cry, I'm game, considering the few other options we have left as backup 4.

[BIGCatBobcat]

I don't like Big Baby. The attitude or something. He did cry, so did Ammo. Larry's not impressed with cryers. I want some freakin rebounding. Okafor is solid, Diaw is doing so much other stuff, Gerald will rebound. Let's get something. Somebody needs to sign somebody to break this thing loose. It's pretty much driving me nuts at this point but I think it's as much to do with the economy as anything.

[amour217]

The way we're going, our PF options are going to be Mr. D-League Throwaway or Mr. Euro Journeyman

[Demon DeaCat]

Though it would be great, I don't feel like we're going to be able to land Big Baby. I think the most favorable, realistic scenario for us now would be to sign Diogu to a minimum deal, and then offer AI a one year deal for 3.5 mil. That would keep us just below luxury level by my count. If that could work out I'd consider this a very productive off-season.

[playoffs...PLAYOFFS?]

what's all this talk about big baby to the bobcats? are we actually pursuing him?

[SCBobcat]

I actually like Diogu for a backup PF role. He is about an inch short, but that didn't seem to be a problem this time last year when we were banking on May being the starting PF.
Take a look at how Diogu played during the last week of last season and tell me that wouldn't look nice on our bench.

[Ampsportsduo]

Why would we want to spend the full MLE on a guy that is going to play 13-15 minutes a night? We all acknowledge Diaw is vital to the team's ball movement and deserves starter minutes. I'd rather see them spend it on two players.

A guy that intrigues me (probably because of his success against the Cats) is a guy like Joey Graham from the Raptors, who seems to be largely forgotten this off-season.

[ohara831]

Hell, at this stage, they should just pay me to be the backup PF. I'll play for the League Minimum. And I can make sure that in each game I play I take out one of the opposition's main players with a well timed elbow or clothesline before getting ejected. And at 5-10, I can probably duck under any retaliatory shots! Tell Bob I'm on my way to sign the Contract tonight!

[dav7z]

Til Felton signs we not going into the luxery tax even one dollar.
So we can for about signing any body til Felts signs . I think Felts makes twelve players any way. Thats leaves one space B Johnson has to fill . He would fill that with a NDBL contract be for going into the Luxery tax.; I all most hate going into this season with B.J back in control.It was more exciting with L.B and M.J in control.
As you can tell my hopes are fading quickly this off season.

The average fan has NOTHING to get excited about.
Our only hope is if LB can carry thease guys to the playoffs. Wiitch will be hard to do with a much inproved East . All most ever team has made efforts to get better except us.........
If Felton settles for seven million a year . Add that to the 59 million dollar pay role that puts us at 66 milion with twelve players . We don't even have the full MLE befor we hit the LUXERY TAX. We screwed????/

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/charlotte.htm This just gives a idea of how little wiggle room B.J is allowing us....

[Fred Williamson]

Damn, we need to get rid of Nazr or Diop

[dnbman]

Til Felton signs we not going into the luxery tax even one dollar.
So we can for about signing any body til Felts signs . I think Felts makes twelve players any way. Thats leaves one space B Johnson has to fill . He would fill that with a NDBL contract be for going into the Luxery tax.; I all most hate going into this season with B.J back in control.It was more exciting with L.B and M.J in control.
As you can tell my hopes are fading quickly this off season.

The average fan has NOTHING to get excited about.
Our only hope is if LB can carry thease guys to the playoffs. Wiitch will be hard to do with a much inproved East . All most ever team has made efforts to get better except us.........
If Felton settles for seven million a year . Add that to the 59 million dollar pay role that puts us at 66 milion with twelve players . We don't even have the full MLE befor we hit the LUXERY TAX. We screwed????/

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/charlotte.htm This just gives a idea of how little wiggle room B.J is allowing us....

5.5 M towards Felton (his qualifying offer) is included in that $59M. We do have a little room.

[Demon DeaCat]

Actually, I don't think Felton's QO is included in that $59 mil, nor is Brown's salary for that matter.

[dnbman]

Actually, I don't think Felton's QO is included in that $59 mil, nor is Brown's salary for that matter.

I stand corrected. It doesn't.

wow.

[dav7z]

I don't think Felts is added into that number . Browns contract is very small something around 450 k for one year . So we standing at 59 milion befor we add in Feltons contract. Lets just say Felton gets seven milion whitch seems a little low considering Jack just got 4.5 milion a year.
But 7 milion might do it. That puts us at 66 milion, with only three million to play with and one to two more players left to sign . Signing Felton is key if we can't go into the luxery tax at all . We have no idea what we can spend for our last player or two'.

[dnbman]

I don't think Felts is added into that number . Browns contract is very small something around 450 k for one year . So we standing at 59 milion befor we add in Feltons contract. Lets just say Felton gets seven milion whitch seems a little low considering Jack just got 4.5 milion a year.
But 7 milion might do it. That puts us at 66 milion, with only three million to play with and one to two more players left to sign . Signing Felton is key if we can't go into the luxery tax at all . We have no idea what we can spend for our last player or two'.

Yeah, you were right.

What makes things worse is that we will add another million with Chandler's contract.

Another trade in the works??

[Demon DeaCat]

Exactly. That's yet another aspect of this trade I don't like. Taking on the extra salary virtually kills whatever small possibility existed for us to sign an impact free agent. I hope there's another move coming because this trade in isolation is working for me.

[SWedd523]

Exactly. That's yet another aspect of this trade I don't like. Taking on the extra salary virtually kills whatever small possibility existed for us to sign an impact free agent. I hope there's another move coming because this trade in isolation is working for me.
We weren't getting any impact free agents anyway unless you mean Iverson, and he wasn't going to command big bucks so the extra salary won't change much.

[spectre]

Felton's starting salary will most likely be near that QO so 65/66 is about right.

IMO the plan has always been to add one or two vet min guys, so at most we'd only add another 1.5 give or take to the overall payroll. Most of the guys who were FA had plenty of flaws with the possible exception of Bass and how do you beat out a starting gig with the Magic?

We'll be ok with Juwan and possibly Tim Thomas.

[Demon DeaCat]

We weren't getting any impact free agents anyway unless you mean Iverson, and he wasn't going to command big bucks so the extra salary won't change much.

I was still hoping for an Iverson+Diogu pick up. I think they'd both be impact, although Diogu to a lesser degree. But I don't see that as a possibility with the money we have left. But my plan the FO plan don't seem to be in sync. They haven't expressed much interest in AI (that we know of) so they're probably thinking more along the lines of what Spectre said, adding a minimum guy or two that will be inactive half the time. Not the kind of additions I was hoping for, but what ev.

[ALuhrs704]

if we dont sign a decent pf like big baby(i know we wont) or hakim warrick then we will not make the playoffs.i hate to say it, but the team is lookin shaky to me. please prove me wrong bobcats

[ALuhrs704]

I am kinda hoping Lexy is like a bigger version of Danny Granger/Deeke who can give us 15-20 min next season

lol no offense but did u really compare lexy to danny granger???? what are you smoking, and where can i get it

[teej]

lol no offense but did u really compare lexy to danny granger???? what are you smoking, and where can i get it

After this trade, amen to that.

[Jeff41]

I like this team's makeup but we have to address a backup at the 4 unless LB is confident Derrick Brown can be that guy.

[BIGCatBobcat]

Derrick Brown, AA, Nazr, Mohamed, VladRad has some size. I'm not really sweating it right now, however I would like to see someone other than AA in a look toward the future.

[Demon DeaCat]

Both LB and Higgins made reference to Chandler's ability to play multiple positions during the press conference, so maybe they're not sweating it either. Perhaps they feel they've addressed our depth issue at the PF position through this trade.

[teej]

Both LB and Higgins made reference to Chandler's ability to play multiple positions during the press conference, so maybe they're not sweating it either. Perhaps they feel they've addressed our depth issue at the PF position through this trade.

They also said we'd look at the free agents more. Maybe a minimum guy? I think that's what Leon's gonna be, and for 3/4's of a year of banging in the paint + playoffs (where he killed the Cavs and Lakers in 07-08 ), that's worth it. Maybe a SG as well?

[SWedd523]

They also said we'd look at the free agents more. Maybe a minimum guy? I think that's what Leon's gonna be, and for 3/4's of a year of banging in the paint + playoffs (where he killed the Cavs and Lakers in 07-08 ), that's worth it. Maybe a SG as well?
How did I know :facepalm:


Haha I would love to see your face the minute we sign Powe

[teej]

How did I know :facepalm:


Haha I would love to see your face the minute we sign Powe

Is there anyone besides AI that's more bang for the buck? This guy averages over 10 ppg when he starts, put up 20 in a Finals game, and is a great citizen to boot. What's wrong with that?

[SWedd523]

Is there anyone besides AI that's more bang for the buck? This guy averages over 10 ppg when he starts, put up 20 in a Finals game, and is a great citizen to boot. What's wrong with that?
Are you talking about AI or Powe?

[teej]

Are you talking about AI or Powe?

Leon...when did AI make the Finals?

[SWedd523]

Leon...when did AI make the Finals?

Whenever you said:


Is there anyone besides AI that's more bang for the buck? This guy averages over 10 ppg when he starts, put up 20 in a Finals game, and is a great citizen to boot. What's wrong with that?


And AI has been to the finals lol

[teej]

And AI has been to the finals lol

My b. I didn't watch the NBA then, so it doesn't count :p jk. But anyways, what I was trying to say is, who, besides AI, gives us more bang for our buck. Leon's done everything I said.

[110oldeast]

I'm fine with us bringing back Juwan Howard.

Seriously guys, this franchise has NEVER had a legit modern day PF before Diaw came here. Our PF position is in MUCH better position than it ever has been. If we bring back Juwan to go along with Vlad, Brown, etc. we will still be LIGHTYEARS away from where we have been. This all of a sudden sense of urgency to get another PF definitely should have been here the past few years when we were putting all our eggs in the May basket. But we are still better off than we have been. Bring back Juwan and move on.

I still worry about what happens when Raja gets hurt as our wing shooting outside of him is very mediocre for the halfcourt type of game Brown likes to run.

[rsxnova]

I still worry about what happens when Raja gets hurt as our wing shooting outside of him is very mediocre for the halfcourt type of game Brown likes to run.

This is when AI make his triumphant return...

[playoffs...PLAYOFFS?]

add TC to the PF options now...you can go big, playing TC at 4 and Diop at 5

[tamburello]

...and subtract Ike Diogu. He was signed by the Hornets.

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2009/07/new_orleans_hornets_sign_free_1.html

[SWedd523]

...and subtract Ike Diogu. He was signed by the Hornets.

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2009/07/new_orleans_hornets_sign_free_1.html

Andddddd Tim Thomas went to Dallas!

[Mustachio]

add TC to the PF options now...you can go big, playing TC at 4 and Diop at 5


that is a horrible lineup. two 7 footers with absolutely ZERO ability to put the ball in the net.

[SCBobcat]

I hope we don't play TC and Diop at the same time. That would give us 520 pounds of players with range of a combined 6 feet (at least Sean May at that weight had range out to the 3pt line). We need to play Nazr with Chandler at the 4. Nazr can hit that 12-14 footer all day.

[amour217]

I hope we don't play TC and Diop at the same time. That would give us 520 pounds of players with range of a combined 6 feet (at least Sean May at that weight had range out to the 3pt line). We need to play Nazr with Chandler at the 4. Nazr can hit that 12-14 footer all day.

The only range Sean May had was from the bench to the buffet

[SWedd523]

I was out the other day and saw a Sean May autographed jersey on the wall of...................... Wild Wings. LOL fatty

[amour217]

I was out the other day and saw a Sean May autographed jersey on the wall of...................... Wild Wings. LOL fatty

That must've been a HUGE wall

[polarcat]

haha... too funny. i was at strike city the other night and as i was leaving and my party was putting their shoes on, i noticed a bunch of autographed bowling pins in a locked window case by the entrance. i asked the doorguy what it was and he said they were celebrities and athletes that have been in and signed them. funny thing was that the first player he pointed out to me was sean may. i laughed at him and was like, "c'mon man! sean may is the first name that you mention to me. hahaha.... you've got diaw, jonathon stewart, jeff otah, fallout boy, etc and you start off with sean may." i just laughed and then he did too and realized that he could've went a better route.

ahhh, the joke that is sean may.... it never gets old.

[SWedd523]

ahhh, the joke that is sean may.... it never gets old.
Sean May: Bringing BCP together since 2005

[Black]

pay Warrick

[amour217]

Sean May: Bringing BCP together since 2005

The only thing bigger than Bobcats Planet is Sean May

[rsxnova]

pay Warrick

We can only hope.

[SWedd523]

The only thing bigger than Bobcats Planet is Sean May
One time Sean May got in a fight.

He said, "I'm gonna walk away and be the bigger man." Everybody laughed......

[bing!]

BCP = Sean-May-Fat-Jokes Compendium.

I'm proud to be a part of this, truly proud.

[ohara831]

On Hollinger's Chat today, he pretty much agreed with someone saying that Nellie was wanting to get rid of Brandon Wright. Is there any way we could make a deal with GS to get him back in Charlotte? I'd love to have him backing Diaw and int he future manning the PF spot. If Nellie wants him gone, maybe we can do something.

[dnbman]

On Hollinger's Chat today, he pretty much agreed with someone saying that Nellie was wanting to get rid of Brandon Wright. Is there any way we could make a deal with GS to get him back in Charlotte? I'd love to have him backing Diaw and int he future manning the PF spot. If Nellie wants him gone, maybe we can do something.

This is really the only thing I see working, which I would feel good about:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nlj9dx

However, we'd end up with a lot of bigs and few shooters. The only reason I don't subsitute Nazr or Diop is they don't seem like guys that Nellie would want. But, who knows?

[docend24]

Lol, another Frenchman! I would do that.

[Walt Cronkite]

Warriors love Turiaf, no way they do that deal.

[mrtarheel]

How about this one

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=m3avor

[dnbman]

Warriors love Turiaf, no way they do that deal.

Wasn't sure. I'll take your word for it.

[TheLegend]

I don't know if we're getting a PF in the off season. So if we actually don't then would you guys rather have Derrick Brown as the back-up PF?

[TheBeagle]

I don't know if we're getting a PF in the off season. So if we actually don't then would you guys rather have Derrick Brown as the back-up PF? Depending on the matchup, I think he'd be fine. Against perimeter-oriented 4s, for example. Otherwise Nazr can bang with the more post-oriented 4s.

I've already put it on record that Derrick is going to be a special player in time, so I'm all for giving him the PT to learn and improve all the sooner!

[teej]

The only reason I don't subsitute Nazr or Diop is they don't seem like guys that Nellie would want. But, who knows?

One thing's for sure, Nellie doesn't know.

MrTarHeel, if we made that trade, I would be ecstatic. Only 3 FO's are dumb enough to do that, and thank God one of them is in Oakland.

[tamburello]

I believe our options are limited to add quality pieces this offseason. I don't know his name was ever mentioned here, what about Sheldon Williams? He will be cheap and might play some minutes at 4.

[dav7z]

I believe our options are limited to add quality pieces this offseason. I don't know his name was ever mentioned here, what about Sheldon Williams? He will be cheap and might play some minutes at 4.

Agreeded someone like that is the way we going to have to go. We don't have any flexability or many good tradable contracts. But hes no upgrade to any thing we have siting on the beanch. Right now shooting guard might be a bigger concern. With Bells age and health and only a rookie Hendo as back up is a concern.
I wouldn't mind G Green he should be in our price range. He has one hell of a upside and if any coach could tap into it Brown could.

We have Diaw, TC, Vald, Alexas and Brown who can play p/f
DJ can't and Felton can guard only some shooting guards . Look at how we ended the season when Bell went down. I don't think Hendo is ready yet.
Thoughts
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/gerald_green/career_stats.html

This kid just needs a coach and the sky is his limit. Brown could turn this kid into a star.

[ohara831]

Hakim Warrick signed with Bucks today. Last one I had any interest in.

[mrtarheel]

Hakim Warrick signed with Bucks today. Last one I had any interest in.

for only 3mil, our budget is so slim that we can't spend that much on a 11pt 6reb guy.

[110oldeast]

I'm on board with your line of thinking. I'm fine with signing back Juwan for the PF and working with the other pieces we have on the roster. The depth at the 2 guard position does concern me, however.


Agreeded someone like that is the way we going to have to go. We don't have any flexability or many good tradable contracts. But hes no upgrade to any thing we have siting on the beanch. Right now shooting guard might be a bigger concern. With Bells age and health and only a rookie Hendo as back up is a concern.
I wouldn't mind G Green he should be in our price range. He has one hell of a upside and if any coach could tap into it Brown could.

We have Diaw, TC, Vald, Alexas and Brown who can play p/f
DJ can't and Felton can guard only some shooting guards . Look at how we ended the season when Bell went down. I don't think Hendo is ready yet.
Thoughts
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/gerald_green/career_stats.html

This kid just needs a coach and the sky is his limit. Brown could turn this kid into a star.

[ziggy]

Any possibility of Big Baby?

He is still out there and wouldn't and I doubt if he is in a position to demand huge bucks.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Sign Paul Shirley!

[mrtarheel]

If LB thinks we are set at the pf with Chandler being able to play some why not go after Powe. We could get him for the cheap and he could give us a boost for a playoff push when he comes back healthy around the Jan. Another possibility is

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nc58ne

[teej]

If LB thinks we are set at the pf with Chandler being able to play some why not go after Powe. We could get him for the cheap and he could give us a boost for a playoff push when he comes back healthy around the Jan.

At least someone agrees with me...and he thinks he'll be back before then, and it's looking like we could get him for the minimum

Then get a minimum s/g?

[amour217]

If LB thinks we are set at the pf with Chandler being able to play some

If LB thinks that, he's like Kunta Kinte jumping rope: trippin

[teej]

If LB thinks that, he's like Kunta Kinte jumping rope: trippin

Kunta Kinte!!!

Dude can't run half as fast as OJ (when OJ's running half-speed!)

[mrtarheel]

Apparently someone else has thoughts on who will be our backup pf. If this is the case then we maybe set at the pf position and also might have a member on the all rookie team.


http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13483

[Walt Cronkite]

Yea, I think Derrick Brown is the answer here. We maybe sign a couple of guys to the minimum that surprise LB in training camp, but unless we make another move via a trade our offseason is over.

Leon Powe scares me. I like him as a player, but we don't need to invest more money into a PF with knee issues.

[tamburello]

The one we laugh at, Shelden Williams is signed by the Celtics to minimum deal. :D

[TheBeagle]

Apparently someone else has thoughts on who will be our backup pf. If this is the case then we maybe set at the pf position and also might have a member on the all rookie team.


http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13483 This hoopsworld dude obviously read what I posted on the previous page and ripped me off!!!!

Yeah, I've kept pretty quiet about the 4 spot mainly because I think we're set and don't need any more depth, honestly. Sure, I'd be all for giving Powe something cheap and have him aboard, but I'm happy with Derrick getting minutes, battling the "perimeter" 4s.

As far as I'm concerned, the roster is set (assuming Raymond is coming back.......which is, I admit, a little more worrisome than I'd hoped at this point...). We drafted Henderson for the purpose of being Raja's backup, so I don't know why people are still calling for a backup 2; the only reason I cottoned to the pick was that he would be our backup 2; if we get someone else to take over that role, I'll be pissed and go back to the argument of why we should've taken Jrue, especially considering Raymond's current status.......and no one wants me to open that can of worms again, right? ;)

[azfollower]

Baby's gone...

So sad.

[110oldeast]

I'm not hung up on the 4 position. I'd be fine with Juwan coming back and rolling with what we have.

And while I hear what you are saying with regard to Henderson at the 2, my problem is lack of depth in WING JUMPSHOOTING on the team. We have Raja and Vlad when he is playing the 3 as the 2 guys on the wing who can knock down the 3. That's not enough in today's NBA, especially if Raja's durability becomes a question. Give me a 2 who can knock down the 3 and I will be fine. He doesn't have to be a star, just be able to spread the floor and make the defense pay if they help off on the drive of one of our guards.


This hoopsworld dude obviously read what I posted on the previous page and ripped me off!!!!

Yeah, I've kept pretty quiet about the 4 spot mainly because I think we're set and don't need any more depth, honestly. Sure, I'd be all for giving Powe something cheap and have him aboard, but I'm happy with Derrick getting minutes, battling the "perimeter" 4s.

As far as I'm concerned, the roster is set (assuming Raymond is coming back.......which is, I admit, a little more worrisome than I'd hoped at this point...). We drafted Henderson for the purpose of being Raja's backup, so I don't know why people are still calling for a backup 2; the only reason I cottoned to the pick was that he would be our backup 2; if we get someone else to take over that role, I'll be pissed and go back to the argument of why we should've taken Jrue, especially considering Raymond's current status.......and no one wants me to open that can of worms again, right? ;)

[teej]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4392457

My boy's in Cleveland, and for that price there is NO reason we couldn't have had him long ago.

[mrtarheel]

Has anyone thought about something like this

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p6bzxy

This guy is a beast on the boards, cheap, agile but doesn't have to good of a brain. White can score from the 2 and 3 spot.

[teej]

^I think Lexy's still not going to be traded unless in a bigger deal because he's LB's "toy"

[tamburello]

So... we're getting near to the end of the offseason. Last year 4 spot was not deep. What did we do to solve this problem? Sean May and Juwan Howard were let go, only undersized Derrick Brown is added. The only "real" PF we have is Diaw now, and he's mildly injured. Ajinça is not a real PF, even if he is, we cannot trust him for the playoff run.

I'm really concerned about our situation at this position. Our boy Carl Landry is officially tradable now, I pray for a trade with Rockets, in which we can rob them by sending one mediocre center for Landry and fillers. This trade has been talked here for a long time. But Daryl Morey is a GM that I love, and I think it's impossible to rob him. They are also in a difficult position, with so many players tied up and still have tons of undersized PF's and only real center is David Andersen. I just pray...