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ALong13
08-05-2009, 12:42 AM
Nazr made the following quote on my twitter when asking if he was looking forward to this season and how his workouts were going...


NazrMohammed@AaronLong92 I cant say Im excited but I will be prepared. Didn't like how last season went personally or our team goals.

I'm not a huge Nazr fan, but the attitude was upsetting to me...I understand he's upset, but I'd like to hear something to the effect that maybe he wants to prove to everyone he still can play at a high level, not that he's not excited about it...This may seem like nothing to yall, but it was pretty upsetting to me

Muttley
08-05-2009, 07:16 AM
I wonder what the team goals were. Were they something other than winning as many games as possible? Larry thinks Tyson can play the 4 some, so that should get Nazr very excited since he would be playing the 5 in those situations.

dnbman
08-05-2009, 07:26 AM
Yeah, I'm not sure what the deal is, but the team goals would be telling. Maybe Nazr is one of those championship or bust type guys. He might also be concerned about the team BJ trying to sell the team.

Definitely not what a fan wants to hear.

docend24
08-05-2009, 09:13 AM
I respect waht he said, he was sincere. And it was just twitter not officaial interview or press conferencde. I would rather hear this than some fake comments about how is happy in Charlotte and enthusiastic about his situation there. Nobody at his place would be thrilled to be third center off the bench, being placed on injury list occasionally.

Muttley
08-05-2009, 11:42 AM
Yeah, I can forgive his lack of excitement. He seems unsure what his place is on the team.

I'm happy to hear both that he's prepared for this season, and unhappy about how last season went for him. He should not have been happy with his role, and he should want to work to improve his standing. It's got to be especially difficult with everyone wanting to trade him and favoring Diop, despite Diop having the worse contract and obvious offensive shortcomings.

The thing that concerns me is the comment about the team's goals. I guess I just wish I knew what the team's goals were and what his problem with them was.

eleaf14
08-05-2009, 12:35 PM
I hope this garners some media attention. Nazr needs to learn that if he is going to "Tweet" that he will need to offer some response as to what goals he had issue with.

If this leads to a positive...I am all for it...but the point of social networking is to bring people together...i just hope he realizes that and offers up a response...otherwise hes volunteering to become a distraction...and that part would make me hate Twitter even more.

SWedd523
08-05-2009, 12:59 PM
He's been working his ass off this offseason so I wouldn't be surprised to see him ready to play next year.

I expect him to get much more PT

amour217
08-05-2009, 01:37 PM
Is it just me or did Nazr sound like Eeyore in that reply?

Dead_Real
08-05-2009, 01:43 PM
I respect waht he said, he was sincere. And it was just twitter not officaial interview or press conferencde. I would rather hear this than some fake comments about how is happy in Charlotte and enthusiastic about his situation there. Nobody at his place would be thrilled to be third center off the bench, being placed on injury list occasionally.
cosign 100%

teej
08-05-2009, 04:16 PM
Yeah, I can forgive his lack of excitement. He seems unsure what his place is on the team.

I'm happy to hear both that he's prepared for this season, and unhappy about how last season went for him. He should not have been happy with his role, and he should want to work to improve his standing. It's got to be especially difficult with everyone wanting to trade him and favoring Diop, despite Diop having the worse contract and obvious offensive shortcomings.

The thing that concerns me is the comment about the team's goals. I guess I just wish I knew what the team's goals were and what his problem with them was.

Exactly.

I'm pretty sure the team goals would be making the playoffs? :shrug:

And we always complain about PC athletes, why do we get pissed when one is honest and has a right to be pissed??

LB4President
08-05-2009, 07:28 PM
Yeah I don't know what his deal is. I remember his last year in San Antonio he was talking about where he wanted to sign next season. The only problem was it was about in April, while the rest of the team was focused on winning a championship. Is it just me or does he not fit in anywhere? I think for now he is stuck with us and we with him. His contract is too big to move until it is expiring.

110oldeast
08-05-2009, 08:28 PM
I think we are making a mountain out of a molehill. It's also the danger of athletes tweeting (hope this doesn't lead to an ESPNesque banning for our players).

Nazr's words put simply:

I'm going to be prepared, b/c I am approaching this as a professional. I can't say that I am "excited" considering that my role is ambiguous and most commentary has me as a contract that needs to be and is looking to be unloaded. Nonetheless, I will prepare as a professional and be ready if/when my time comes.

I am unhappy that we didn't reach our team goal of MAKING THE PLAYOFFS last season. The way it ended left a bitter taste in my mouth.

bozzy
08-05-2009, 08:33 PM
I don't think it is a big deal for him to say he was upset at the way last year went for him or the team. However, I think it says a lot about a person to be in his position and not say he is excited about the season. If he isn't excited about the upcoming season, then maybe he should try another profession.

MattD
08-05-2009, 09:14 PM
Exactly.

I'm pretty sure the team goals would be making the playoffs? :shrug:

And we always complain about PC athletes, why do we get pissed when one is honest and has a right to be pissed??

no i can pretty much say that the team goals were to improve every game. im sure thats not what nazr wants to hear as a veteran, and honestly as an nba player id want a teams goals always to be win an nba championship, whether or not it seems possible

110oldeast
08-05-2009, 09:52 PM
I don't like how things went personally: "I did not like not being utilized or getting an opportunity to help the team."

or the team goals: "We did not make the playoffs as we were setting out to do."

I don't think it was championship or bust. The Bobcats franchise has not yet been to the playoffs. They were in the hunt, got the crowd behind them, but fell short. And while I know LB is going to give the Dean Smithesque goals of getting better everyday and learning to play the right way, we are in serious denial if we don't think that the PLAYERS had the TEAM (locker room) goal of making the playoffs.

This is much ado about nothing. I imagine he'll learn from this once it is pointed out to him however to choose his words carefully, he chooses to respond at all. That is the only concern I have about the situation. In today's high-tech, instant information, sound byte society, I can understand the banning of twitter by organizations.

TattoodCats4life
08-05-2009, 11:30 PM
Nazr was honest, how can anyone be upset with that...He is a professional player with a great deal of experience and was brought into the team during the almighty ham biscuit's term ruining things... Nazr is going to get paid one way or another, but He's a player who wants to play, and frankly i doubt he wants to bow out of hte league after this contract. I think nazr wants to get himself some time on the court so that he can find a team willing to pick him up for a year or two after this contact.

Just my opinion, but I think having 3 Cs is good and I think with having Chandler who isnt going to be a 40+ minute/night guy, we are more likely to see Chandler start, do 28 min on the 5, 5-8 min on the 4, all the while giving Nazr and Diop 20 min to split and that can be based on individual performance.

YMMV

BRNC
08-06-2009, 01:13 PM
I honestly think he was trying to be respectful toward EO50...I know he did not like his lack of time last year (which I'm pleased about...some guys just want the money) and he has been (as swedd pointed out) been working hard to get ready for the season...

KT#20
08-08-2009, 02:08 PM
Definitely can see why he wouldn't be excited. Gana playing over him last season was an absolute joke. Why would he think this season will be any different?

Marvel
08-14-2009, 09:06 PM
Definitely can see why he wouldn't be excited. Gana playing over him last season was an absolute joke. Why would he think this season will be any different?


Yeah absolutely come on i love LB but trading for Gana and totally making Nazr non existent on the bench is a complete joke to me.Gana has no offense outside of the charging circle and his rebounding is no better than Nazr's,Nazr can hit 15 ftrs occasionally he hustles he basically does everything Gana does so what the hell i mean Gana is signed on for another what 3-4 years.................why? Now we have Nazr sitting on the bench and we're waisting cap space....................can someone make sense of this?:facepalm:

teej
08-14-2009, 09:08 PM
Yeah absolutely come on i love LB but trading for Gana and totally making Nazr non existent on the bench is a complete joke to me.Gana has no offense outside of the charging circle and his rebounding is no better than Nazr's,Nazr can hit 15 ftrs occasionally he hustles he basically does everything Gana does so what the hell i mean Gana is signed on for another what 3-4 years.................why? Now we have Nazr sitting on the bench and we're waisting cap space....................can someone make sense of this?:facepalm:

Neither does Chandler.

But as for the rest of this, it's called LB's pet project, he wants to get Gana's potential out.

spectre
08-14-2009, 10:46 PM
Yup. Plus I think the plan was to replace Mek with him all along...whereas with Nazr they probably don't see him in our long term plans.

I agree tho...Nazr deserves more PT. If for nothing else because he can hit that 15 footer like Marvel said.

Ghost Kat
08-16-2009, 02:44 PM
Do ya'll not remember what Nazr did when he actually did play last year???......Nothing. He got fouls quickly and looked slow. He's never been an offensive threat. Diop atleast gives you a respectable defender. Nazr has never been a top notch or even respectable defender. So why is it he deserves more PT? Ajinca needs more PT, Nazr has been in the league for a minute now. He is who he is and thats a bench player. A back ups back up.

teej
08-16-2009, 03:43 PM
Do ya'll not remember what Nazr did when he actually did play last year???......Nothing. He got fouls quickly and looked slow. He's never been an offensive threat.

:facepalm:

Did you watch him when he got PT for the Ham Biscuit? He WAS a threat offensively, he could hit the jumper, and he played decent D. And he's coming back in better shape this year, something we haven't heard from in Diop.

Ghost Kat
08-16-2009, 03:52 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=568

I'm not sure where in his career you can seriously say he was a threat. At either end. The Ham Biscuit is the one that brought him in for that silly contract. Nazr filled a need when they brought him in, that doesn't mean he was actually any good. LB our hall of fame coach didn't even play him. He went and traded young talent to get Diop. That says mountains about Nazr.

Marvel
08-16-2009, 05:14 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=568

I'm not sure where in his career you can seriously say he was a threat. At either end. The Ham Biscuit is the one that brought him in for that silly contract. Nazr filled a need when they brought him in, that doesn't mean he was actually any good. LB our hall of fame coach didn't even play him. He went and traded young talent to get Diop. That says mountains about Nazr.

Are you kidding me,even if bringing in Nazr at 6 mil was a bad move we brought in Diop at the same price for what............so he could average a block per game,and bring in a "bigger" body.What a waste of 6mil,it doesn't justify wasting another 6mil by sitting Nazr on the bench for almost the entire season,and if you're going by career stats then you better look at those numbers again before you shoot yourself in the foot.

teej
08-16-2009, 08:25 PM
I'm not sure where in his career you can seriously say he was a threat.

2001-2002, 2003-2004, 2004-2005, and 2007-2008.

Any center that scores over 10 ppg is a luxury, above 8 is good. We were blessed with Mek, so we can't notice a good one when we see it. And I wouldn't exactly call MC Hammer young talent and Twiggy was just young. Diop has never EVER produced, never scored more than 10 points in a game, and never averaged more than 3 ppg. His highest rpg was 5.4, and has never had more than 16 in a game. Nazr's highest rpg is 9.0, and his highest in a game is 20. Gana has never had more than 6 blocks, Nazr has had 8.

Let's break that down.

Highest season avg.
Gana 3 points
Nazr 9 points
Gana 5.4 rebounds
Nazr 9.0 rebounds
Gana 1.8 blocks
Nazr 1.4 blocks
Gana 0.6 assists
Nazr 1.1 assists
Gana 3.1 fouls worst, 1.1 best
Nazr 3.2 fouls worst, 0.8 best

Highest per game
Gana 10 points
Nazr 30 points
Gana 16 rebounds
Nazr 20 rebounds
Gana 6 blocks
Nazr 8 blocks

Any more debate?

Ghost Kat
08-16-2009, 08:41 PM
Are you kidding me,even if bringing in Nazr at 6 mil was a bad move we brought in Diop at the same price for what............so he could average a block per game,and bring in a "bigger" body.What a waste of 6mil,it doesn't justify wasting another 6mil by sitting Nazr on the bench for almost the entire season,and if you're going by career stats then you better look at those numbers again before you shoot yourself in the foot.


I have pretty good aim so i think my feet will be just fine. We can debate this till we all forget how to type. I'll point out again that Larry Brown thought Diop was better for this team then Nazr. Throw the stats away, throw out career highs and lows...The coach put an end to the debate Teej

teej
08-16-2009, 08:54 PM
I have pretty good aim so i think my feet will be just fine. We can debate this till we all forget how to type. I'll point out again that Larry Brown thought Diop was better for this team then Nazr. Throw the stats away, throw out career highs and lows...The coach put an end to the debate Teej

Really? He's said this offseason that Nazr's looking like he'll play a lot more. And you were the one bringing stats into it, not me. :rolleyes:

Marvel
08-16-2009, 09:54 PM
I have pretty good aim so i think my feet will be just fine. We can debate this till we all forget how to type. I'll point out again that Larry Brown thought Diop was better for this team then Nazr. Throw the stats away, throw out career highs and lows...The coach put an end to the debate Teej


You brung/brang/twang...wang:D the stats up, not me

Ghost Kat
08-17-2009, 02:52 AM
You brung/brang/twang...wang:D the stats up, not me

I don't even understand that.....

Thank you both for pointing out something I already know, I was talking about myself to in throwing out stats since I did post that first thing about stats. Ya'll tried to make it a Nazr vs. Diop debate...I'm saying Nazr sucks...point blank period no coma. LB said Sean May would get playing time last year and we all know what happened from there. He usually says nice things to the press about his players. But what do you seriously think Nazr will bring to this team with more PT? We'll see this year if he actually does get PT and if he's productive I'm sure you'll remind me and i'll eat my words. But most likely I'll be the one reminding you folk that you wanted more Nazr.....

teej
08-17-2009, 02:01 PM
I don't even understand that.....

Thank you both for pointing out something I already know, I was talking about myself to in throwing out stats since I did post that first thing about stats. Ya'll tried to make it a Nazr vs. Diop debate...I'm saying Nazr sucks...point blank period no coma. LB said Sean May would get playing time last year and we all know what happened from there. He usually says nice things to the press about his players. But what do you seriously think Nazr will bring to this team with more PT? We'll see this year if he actually does get PT and if he's productive I'm sure you'll remind me and i'll eat my words. But most likely I'll be the one reminding you folk that you wanted more Nazr.....

We tried to make it Nazzy vs. Diop to show you how silly your comments (and LB's) were.

LB never assured us of Sean playing, he routinely speaks his mind, and called out players several times.

I expect to see more offense from the 2nd team if Naz plays, and not much difference on the defensive end.

Marvel
08-17-2009, 05:46 PM
I don't even understand that.....

Thank you both for pointing out something I already know, I was talking about myself to in throwing out stats since I did post that first thing about stats. Ya'll tried to make it a Nazr vs. Diop debate...I'm saying Nazr sucks...point blank period no coma. LB said Sean May would get playing time last year and we all know what happened from there. He usually says nice things to the press about his players. But what do you seriously think Nazr will bring to this team with more PT? We'll see this year if he actually does get PT and if he's productive I'm sure you'll remind me and i'll eat my words. But most likely I'll be the one reminding you folk that you wanted more Nazr.....


I didn't know what word to use........... is it brung....brang....anywho i'm just saying Diop is not (mark my words) going to be any better than what he is right now neither is Nazr........but why bring in another 6mil contract when we got Nazr who rebounds just as well in minutes per and at least gives us some offense.

Ghost Kat
08-22-2009, 02:06 AM
I didn't know what word to use........... is it brung....brang....anywho i'm just saying Diop is not (mark my words) going to be any better than what he is right now neither is Nazr........but why bring in another 6mil contract when we got Nazr who rebounds just as well in minutes per and at least gives us some offense.

I'm not that old but i'm pretty sure I've been watching basketball longer then Nazr's NBA career. At no point do I remember him actually being more then a C+ player in his best years. And C+ is being really nice. Now I'm guessing Larry Brown picked up Diop and his 6 mil because Nazr sucks just as bad but atleast Diop plays defense and He's a big body. I'm guessing you know this team is in dire need of big banger type players. LB has built a defensive minded team, Again. Nazr has never been known as a shot blocker...Diop is.

They tried to off load Nazr, No one wants him, Not for the money " The Biscuit " gave him. So whats better live with a sub par back up to your already under sized front court or get a bigger player with some NBA yrs under his belt? I'll agree it's a waste to have both of them but between the two I'll take Diop. Nazr is garbage....

Ghost Kat
08-22-2009, 02:15 AM
We tried to make it Nazzy vs. Diop to show you how silly your comments (and LB's) were.



Blastphemy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Larry Brown does not make silly comments

I will be reporting you to Homeland Security!!!!