Bobcats' Roster Tweeking

[TheLegend]

Good read.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2009/09/anticipate-some-bobcats-roster-tweeks.html

[dnbman]

While none of that is mind blowing information, it's good to see some specifics on the Felton deal and the club looking to acquire a PF. $7M/year seems on the slightly high side of reasonable for Felton. Although, Sessions' deal doesn't help his case.

I'd love to see what's in the works to acquire a PF.

[TheLegend]

I would like to have Brandon Wright here as our backup.

[dnbman]

I would like to have Brandon Wright here as our backup.

I'm wondering if that's going to happen given the explosion of Randolph over the summer. I'm just wondering what kind of trade would have to go down to make it work.

I've been one of the people that is desperate for a PF. While we have some interesting players to play the role, I just really want a solid, traditional PF for when circumstances demand it. Brandon Wright could definitely be that guy, though I'd probably prefer someone more rugged.

I'm definitely looking forward to training camp now.

[TheLegend]

Randolph or Wright doesn't really matter to me. I didn't say Randolph because I think the Warriors really like him a lot. I think hes better than Wright though.

[dnbman]

While unlikely, I just saw checked this trade, which works:

Charlotte gets:
Stephen Jackson
Brandon Wright

Golden State gets:
Nazr
Radmonovic

We get the better end of the deal, clearly, even saving $2M in the process. However, Jackson's been saying he wants out of Golden State. Radmonovic would give them another tall bomber and Nazr would give them a legit backup center who has a little range.

I don't think Golden State would take it, but I'd love for the trade to happen.

[Scottley Crue]

While none of that is mind blowing information, it's good to see some specifics on the Felton deal and the club looking to acquire a PF. $7M/year seems on the slightly high side of reasonable for Felton. Although, Sessions' deal doesn't help his case.

I'd love to see what's in the works to acquire a PF.
$7 Mil does seem on the higher side. I would like to see it closer to $6 Mil/year average, but it's not outrageous. Either way, that average would keep his contract in a "tradeable" zone...big enough to gain good talent back, but not too big to really scare teams off. (I'm not good enough at math to quickly see what $7mil average would look like over a five or six-year period with the increases...may help us with room under the lux tax).

We know Wright is out in GS as a PF. Gooden just signed with Dallas. Wonder what other targets there are between those two teams Rick mentions?

[dnbman]

Wonder what other targets there are between those two teams Rick mentions?

Wright has to be the target in Golden State. Maybe Mikki Moore?

I'm not sure what the options would be in Dallas. Now that Bass is gone, Humphries and Jawai are the only real options. I don't see how either of those guys help us, unless we do something like Jefferson for Jawai.

[teej]

While unlikely, I just saw checked this trade, which works:

Charlotte gets:
Stephen Jackson
Brandon Wright

Golden State gets:
Nazr
Radmonovic

We get the better end of the deal, clearly, even saving $2M in the process. However, Jackson's been saying he wants out of Golden State. Radmonovic would give them another tall bomber and Nazr would give them a legit backup center who has a little range.

I don't think Golden State would take it, but I'd love for the trade to happen.

The Don never turns down a shooter, so maybe. I'd sure do it. Cap'n Jack and our pick for a guy who asked out and a guy who didn't do much. Any day!

[GoBobs]

I like Randolph in GS not really that sold on anybody else. I do like the idea of trading Naz and Vlad. Our team has to much character to go after a guy like Stephen Jackson. It isn't very professional to demand a trade in the media because the team is not playoff caliber. What kind of confidence does that show in your teammates.

I think we would be better off waiting until a few months into the season to make any trades. As I see our roster now it is...

Felton/DJ
Bell/Hendo
Wallace/Vlad/Brown
Diaw/Ajinca
Chandler/Diop/Naz

Yes we are deep at center and don't know if we are deep enough at PF, but Chandler being able to play PF would give us nice flexibility. Also you never know when you will have an injury. If we are lucky enough to stay injury free another team will have injury problems and the trade value of Naz or Vlad will likely increase. Who knows if they play great in the beginning of the season there stock my go up again or we might even want to keep them. If Chandler works out really well at the PF we have a chance to be a great rebounding team with Naz or Diop at the C.

If AI really wants to be a bobcat and our players are mature enough to handle sharing PT we should just add him for whatever puts us right up on the Lux tax.

[dnbman]

Our team has to much character to go after a guy like Stephen Jackson. It isn't very professional to demand a trade in the media because the team is not playoff caliber.

I get your point, but I think Jackson probably just senses what the rest of us do about the Warriors: they have no vision other than to score a lot.

I actually love Jackson. I think he's like Sheed in that he can act a little crazy, but he's very passionate about the game and is routinely said to be a great teammate. He'd be great for us a swingman who can shoot outside. I think Brown would be able to keep him focused.

[spectre]

7 on average with 10% raises:

5.6
6.16
6.72
7.28
7.84
8.4

Pretty much a MLE deal, and I think a fair one. To put that in perspective, TJ Ford (who I consider somwhat comparable) will make 8.77 this year and next year. Felton WILL be BYC, so forget about trades for a year.

Trades with GSW & Dallas. Jackson isn't what I consider a PF tho Nellie used him there (hell, he used Maggette at C)...not to mention his contract kinda reeks. Is getting Wright worth taking that on? I dunno about that one, tho we'd definitely be better with Jack over Vlad. Dallas? I kind of hope not. Maybe Bonnell meant Houston instead...they are both in Texas.

[dnbman]

Trades with GSW & Dallas. Jackson isn't what I consider a PF tho Nellie used him there (hell, he used Maggette at C)...not to mention his contract kinda reeks. Is getting Wright worth taking that on? I dunno about that one, tho we'd definitely be better with Jack over Vlad. Dallas? I kind of hope not. Maybe Bonnell meant Houston instead...they are both in Texas.

I'm wondering if you're right about the Houston mix-up. Dallas seems anything but logical right now.

As for the GS trade, Jackson's contract may not be amazing, but it's not much worse than either of the guys going out and he's a lot more productive. He's a guy who would keep up the intensity off the bench and still provide a solid skill set, that is if he wasn't the starting 2. About the PF comment, I definitely see the trade being for Wright with Jackson as a significant add-on to make it work.

The deal also would save us $2m.

Just looked and saw that Jax gets $10m in three years. That's a lot of dough. May reconsider.

[dav7z]

Dallas seems to be wanting to get rid of a Foward according. They all so willing tp pay two milion on Buvkners contract this year.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5237393


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/090409dnspomavslede.2266adf.html

[dnbman]

Dallas seems to be wanting to get rid of a Foward according. They all so willing tp pay two milion on Buvkners contract this year.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5237393

I like that trade. What happened to Buckner? At one point he was a decent defensive presence with a little bit of a shot. Any juice left?

[ohara831]

I just think $7 mil/yr avg for Ray is too high, but it would not be something that I would call ridiculous. Just overpaying a bit, that's all.

[davcbow]

7 seems a little steep to me but I guess BJ will try to keep it as low as he can...
Like you guys were saying earlier he dont want to be a FA next year will all the FA's that are going to be up for bid....:cool:

[Scottley Crue]

7 on average with 10% raises:

5.6
6.16
6.72
7.28
7.84
8.4

Pretty much a MLE deal, and I think a fair one. To put that in perspective, TJ Ford (who I consider somwhat comparable) will make 8.77 this year and next year. Felton WILL be BYC, so forget about trades for a year.



Thanks, I'm decent with numbers (do deal with them alot at work) but I knew my head would probably explode if I tried to do that.

That's a fair deal. It's not crazy and doesn't stand a big chance to make you feel sorry for it down the road. And it minimally effects the lux tax threshold. I'd be just fine with this deal.

The deal dav72 posted seems to be the best we could get from Dallas. (Though it seems Houston would need a center and is loaded with forwards) I'm not overly thrilled with Williams, but he'd be decent. Got to remember we're trading Nazr (in this situation), so we can't expect the world back.

[dav7z]

Spectre and you cap guys any help hear.?

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/090409dnspomavslede.2266adf.html



If we made this trade with Dallas does the two milion of Buckners salery thet Dallas is willing to pay come off our cap numbers? In this teade?

If it does thats two milion more to offer AI and of Felton . Does any one know cap rules in this case?


Buckner=4018
Williams=2146 Nazr=6466

total 6164 6466==== 302 thousand extra Cats
Money paid by Dallas for Buckner ====2.000 milion extra Cats
=== 2.302 extra cap space Cats?????????????

[Black]

ESPN Insider hs us also talking with the Warriors about trading a center

[dnbman]

If it does thats two milion more to offer AI and of Felton . Does any one know cap rules in this case?

I don't think the cap space would be affected, just who is paying for it.

[dav7z]

I don't think the cap space would be affected, just who is paying for it.

Does that mean we would have a extra 2.3 milion to spend because of this trade. Be for the Luxery tax became a factor.

[spectre]

In regards to Buckner, if we trade for and then waive him we will "gain" that 2 million bucks in capspace.

Example:

Nazr out 6.5 million

Buckner in 4 million
Singleton in 600k (guess)
Williams in 2.4 million

Total around 7 million

We then waive Buckner and lose that 2 million off our cap...so it'd end up being 6.5 out for 5 in for a savings of 1.5 million.

Those partially guaranteed contracts are pretty valuable because they mean instant cap relief.

Is Singleton any good? If so it might be possible to offer him MORE than the minimum in a S&T to get the trade to work without Williams giving us even more savings.

If we paid him 1.2 that'd barely work, but then we'd end up with ultimately 3.2 in with 6.5 going out...and net savings of 3.3 million right off our cap.

That 2nd scenario is seriously worth looking at.

[spectre]

Amateur GM: If Iverson Signs With Charlotte, Can Mavs ‘Buck Shot’ Their Way To A Trade? (http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=1962)

I think they're a little late to the party...and I really don't want to move Raja...but they are talking about the Butler chip and ways to move him to us.

[Marvel]

What's wrong with Bonnell he can't spell.................it's "tweak" not tweek

[teej]

What's wrong with Bonnell he can't spell.................it's "tweak" not tweek

Bonnell has many issues...

As for that Dallas article, I might go for the JJ Berea idea...