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teej
10-05-2009, 03:56 PM
Since Kat and I haven't been able to argue politics in awhile, I thought we should bring out the big guns. JFK. Was it really a guy in a school book building? Was it the CIA? The FBI? Some foriegn group?

What do you guys think? I'm going to wait a little bit on my post because I have spent a ton of time on this and I have a lot of info that I'm pretty sure only a handful of people have, so I want to see what you guys think first. Heck, knowing kat, maybe I'm not the only one.

Post away!

ziggy
10-05-2009, 10:04 PM
It was certainly not some lone guy in a building. If I had to take a guess I would say that it was certain elements within the government that were unhappy with the direction that JFK and the rest of the Kennedys were taking the country. Whether those elements came from the FBI or the CIA, its hard to say.

TheBeagle
10-05-2009, 10:20 PM
Roger McDowell: no doubt!

teej
10-05-2009, 10:28 PM
Roger McDowell: no doubt!



The Braves pitching coach? LOL from Seinfeld?

davcbow
10-06-2009, 12:53 AM
Ive always asked "who had the most to gain?"

Kennedy didnt want Johnson as a running mate in the reelection.
By removing Kennedy Johnson would become president and could stay in the white house.
The CIA didn't care for Kennedy due to the Cuban missile crises...
J Edgar Hoover head of the FBI didnt like Kennedy either....

Ive seen docu's that showed all the angles of the shots fired that day and they even had one shot coming from the sewer that his car passed by, one from the shrubs and one from the building where Oswald was....

All I know for sure is that Johnson had all the evidence from the case sealed for 75 years by presidential order... Sounds fishy to me....:cool:

Ghost Kat
10-06-2009, 02:00 AM
I needed this.....

:yeah:

Anyway, I'll start off easy. JFK was NOT killed by a lone gun man.

As always I'm well prepared with video's, links and whatever random things i need to prove that JFK and RFK were not killed by lone gun men.....


Thank You
:kingofpop:

teej
10-06-2009, 02:53 PM
I needed this.....

:yeah:

Anyway, I'll start off easy. JFK was NOT killed by a lone gun man.

As always I'm well prepared with video's, links and whatever random things i need to prove that JFK and RFK were not killed by lone gun men.....


Thank You
:kingofpop:

You're very welcome. To go ahead and state my position, I believe (with strong evidence) that Lee Harvey Oswald was framed, and that LBJ and J. Edgar Hoover together had JFK killed.

Ghost Kat
10-07-2009, 01:39 AM
It might take me a couple days to get my proof up here. I have a horrible work schdule now and I'm illegal mexican tired when I get home. But I have a crazy theory even for me. JFK was killed by George Bush. Not W, He's the antichrist...Naw the Grand Daddy Devil himself President # 41. Nixon had a hand in it, Johnson too. I have a great video, But it's about hour long.

Something to think about:

After Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy, He went home I think and then to a movie theater. How did the Police get a ID on the man who supposely shot Kennedy when they hadn't even found the gun yet? How did they know He was at the movie theater?

teej
10-07-2009, 02:14 PM
But I have a crazy theory even for me. JFK was killed by George Bush. Not W, He's the antichrist...Naw the Grand Daddy Devil himself President # 41. Nixon had a hand in it, Johnson too. I have a great video, But it's about hour long.

Holy mother of fuck. What the hell are you on? Jeez I can't wait.

ziggy
10-07-2009, 07:23 PM
It might take me a couple days to get my proof up here. I have a horrible work schdule now and I'm illegal mexican tired when I get home. But I have a crazy theory even for me. JFK was killed by George Bush. Not W, He's the antichrist...Naw the Grand Daddy Devil himself President # 41. Nixon had a hand in it, Johnson too.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n81/bluetrain343/Not_sure_if_serious.jpg

SWedd523
10-07-2009, 07:29 PM
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n81/bluetrain343/Not_sure_if_serious.jpg


that kinda looks like LB :g:

Ghost Kat
10-07-2009, 11:20 PM
Enjoy.....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4330031689287456187&ei=G1rNStiBPYSs2wKzqpjcDw&q=JFK+II+The+Bush+Connection&hl=en&client=firefox-a#

I think I rest my case....I know it's long skip through if u like but it's a great video. Extremely pourly budgeted, but great info.

rsxnova
10-08-2009, 02:15 AM
^That is some crazy shit. I didnt know Bush was so deeply tied to all of this. Got any vids on G W Bush being the antchrist:biggrin:

Ghost Kat
10-09-2009, 12:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60vU41qoflU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi3hKo7dwt0

Ghost Kat
10-09-2009, 12:36 PM
Another long one.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C06dg7xjAMk

teej
10-09-2009, 02:43 PM
I think I rest my case....I know it's long skip through if u like but it's a great video. Extremely pourly budgeted, but great info.

OK, I finally found time to watch that. I skipped the last 10 minutes because they were repeating stuff at that point and I think I have enough to get back to you. if I missed anything, let me know.

1. That paints Hoover in a good light. What I'm about to tell you is probably going to destroy any FBI credibility.

2. The Nixon info, as well as the Nazi shit, is all circumstantial. Maybe, maybe not. Not nearly enough evidence.

3. I highly doubt there were 12 shots and all that. But the driver being part of it? Yeah, maybe, maybe not.

Ok, here goes. This is going to be at times disgusting, and at times seemingly irrelevant but in the end it will all make sense. In Texas, there was a family by the name of Byars. Bill Byars was the head of an oil company that later became part of Exxon. He and his wife were not able to have a child, so they adopted one. He became Billy Byars, Jr. Billy was a sick, sick guy. He came out of the closet at 14 or 15 and moved to California at 18 after feuding with his dad. There, he did two things. He became a filmmaker and magazine editor (but not any kind, his were of preteen and teenage boys sans clothes...Michael Jackson would have loved him), and he met J. Edgar Hoover. He is supposedly the person who turned Hoover gay. Now, Byars, Sr. still kept in contact with his son (and had became a major player in Texas oil) and became a friend of Hoover. This is all 50's and early 60's. Byars, Jr. and Hoover were in a relationship around the time of the Kennedy assasination. A month before the assasination, there was a meeting of prominent Texas families. Byars, Sr. was there. They were supposed to have dinner with their wives, but they went into a meeting and it got very heated. The wives were sent home. 30 minutes into the meeting, Jack Ruby showed up. He left early as well. Guess who else was at this meeting? J. Edgar Hoover. I don't know, but I would asume H.W. was there too as he was a big oilman at the time. Now, if you doubt the credibilty of this, here's another. Byars, Jr. made a full lenght movie with his "models" in the early 70's. It was released in 1972, the year of Hoover's death. Up until Hoover's death, Byars, Jr. was allowed to film and print whatever he wanted, as long as there was nothing sexual. However, just after Hoover's death, Byars' home was raided, his movie was confiscated, and he was forced to exile himself to Europe. Too much to be a coincidence.

Now, I agree with a lot of your vid, Kat. But my personal belief is the Hoover, and Johnson indirectly as well as Bush and other minor people, were responsible for Kennedy's assasination. And the FBI carried it out from the knoll.

Ghost Kat
10-09-2009, 03:50 PM
The Nixon info, as well as the Nazi shit, is all circumstantial. Maybe, maybe not. Not nearly enough evidence.

The nazi stuff is clearly documented atleast on the Bush side of things. Prescott did work for a bank that helped fund the Nazi's.
I know it's just one video, But I'm sick :( and that one video said everything I needed to my my case. I'm not done yet.

I highly doubt there were 12 shots and all that. But the driver being part of it? Yeah, maybe, maybe not.

I actually don't know if the driver was part of it, But he did slow down right in the middle of a perfect killing triangle. 12 shots? Not sure about either, But there is plenty edvidence of more then three shots. JFK was hit atleast three times, the Texas gov. had atleast 3-4 wounds, there was a hole in the car's windshield, some guy got hit down the street.... there's enough proof.

I don't know anything about Bill Byars, I'll have to look him up. But I do that there were alot of people involved in the JFK death.

teej
10-09-2009, 04:19 PM
The nazi stuff is clearly documented atleast on the Bush side of things. Prescott did work for a bank that helped fund the Nazi's.

Those kind of people would fund Satan if it was financially beneficial. Don't put too much weight into that.

And I hope you feel better soon.

Ghost Kat
10-10-2009, 02:50 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapata_Corporation

From Bush's Presidential Library

http://web.archive.org/web/20070820095146/http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/find/Doncol1/bushpaps.html#Series:%20Zapata%20Oil%20Files,%2019 43-1983

In 1959, the company was split, leaving the Liedtkes with control of Zapata Petroleum Corporation and establishing Bush as head of Zapata Off-Shore. That same year, Bush moved his family and the headquarters of Zapata Off-Shore to Houston, Texas.

For those who like to read...

http://www.tarpley.net/bush8b.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkojpgNZD9I

7forever
12-07-2010, 02:30 PM
The driver shot JFK clearly and obviously but the zapruder film needed to be picked apart and analyzed by someone and that someone turned out to be me.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xesq49_jfk-assassination-films-orville-nix_news

Nix film close-up shows Greer's left arm crossing over.

I got this gif from this clip. Start it at 1:09 and see Greer quickly moving his left arm over his shoulder in unison with the headshot. The nix film was not shown close-up but when this sequence is zoomed in on the limo, this whopper is revealed. The goons covered those movements with fakery in the zfilm but could not or didn't bother with the nix film.

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/jfk__GIFSoupcom.gifhttp://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/harrisrecoil.gif
THE FAKE GREY STREAK covered Greer's arm movement in the zfilm and the nix film proves that alteration beyond any doubt. Case Closed, finally.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/jfkcloserecoil.gif
The driver killed Kennedy and the Nix film provides conclusive proof to this inevitable truth.

7forever
12-07-2010, 02:32 PM
Mary took her pic at zframe 309 and in it, the fake blob of white is entirely missing from Roy's head because it was added during alteration to cover the gun over Greer's shoulder. Connally's reflection is accurately depicted in both the pic and film for authenticity.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/WallPaint615.jpg
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/WallPaint247-1.jpg
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/WallPaint601.jpg
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/WallPaint249-1.jpg
The fake reflection was NOT added to the nix or muchmore films. THERE IS NO OTHER SIDE TO THE TOP OF THE HEAD.

7forever
12-07-2010, 02:34 PM
http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/
Thanks to the zfilm, the cover-up is now unravelling by simply watching (and NOT ignoring) the driver's movements before, during and after the fatal shot he fires. Greer has both hands off the wheel at frame 241 and his right hand with the gun meets his left hand at 242.
FRAME 241
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/WallPaint321.jpg
Places gun in left hand with right.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/greer239247.gif
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7forever
12-15-2010, 12:50 PM
The fatal shot came from the driver's seat and nowhere else. Those two moronic clowns debunked nothing but failed miserably at disinformation. When a man gets shot in face, he goes backward as is exactly what happens in real life.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/shot-in-face_o_GIFSoupcom.gif
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fake-mist_o_GIFSoupcom.gif

Ghost Kat
12-19-2010, 11:47 AM
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/jfk__GIFSoupcom.gifhttp://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/harrisrecoil.gif
THE FAKE GREY STREAK covered Greer's arm movement in the zfilm and the nix film proves that alteration beyond any doubt. Case Closed, finally.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/jfkcloserecoil.gif
The driver killed Kennedy and the Nix film provides conclusive proof to this inevitable truth.

Still can't see a gun. I've watched videos on this before and I've never seen anything that says the driver did it. Even in those pictures he just looks back. That grey streak is the sun shining on the passengers overly greased hair. If it was the driver Ms. Kennedy sure as hell would have heard that gun shot. She wouldnt stay in the car and ride to the hospital with the person that just blew her husbands brains onto her.

Chef
12-19-2010, 10:16 PM
Still can't see a gun. I've watched videos on this before and I've never seen anything that says the driver did it. Even in those pictures he just looks back. That grey streak is the sun shining on the passengers overly greased hair. If it was the driver Ms. Kennedy sure as hell would have heard that gun shot. She wouldnt stay in the car and ride to the hospital with the person that just blew her husbands brains onto her.

common sense wins again

7forever
12-20-2010, 04:50 PM
common sense wins again

The nix film shows his left arm crossing over which is brand new but always been there proof of Greer as jfk's real assassin.

Ghost Kat
12-24-2010, 11:39 AM
I was watching Jesse Ventura's show and he brought up my Bush theory. The E Howard Hunt connection to Bush and Nixon was also in the show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdT5w3ZMe3E

7forever
04-02-2011, 04:44 PM
I don't have the video editing skills that you folks do, however, I do have an understanding of video, and 1963 Lincolns. I think I finally see what you think is an arm of the driver, and no, sorry, it's the upper part of the driver's door. Plus, the top of the passenger's head, with the grease, is of course going to move some... there was a high powered rifle shot just shot in his general direction, and just as a final thought, you do understand that this film, even when new, was approximately 7.5mp resolution for still pictures, right? Not counting "Z's" movement during the shooting? Plus the low frame rate doesn't help matters at all.
Not trying to sound trollish, just saying is all. No offense to anyone.

Greer's left arm crosses over in the nix film which completely destroys any hope that this idiotic cover-up could continue on indefinitely. The arm is fake in Zapruder because it crosses in nix and muchmore.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/quick-jerk_h_GIFSoupcom.gif
Advance to 1:09 and see for yourself where this gif came from.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xesq49_jfk-assassination-films-orville-nix_news

7forever
04-02-2011, 04:50 PM
http://www.rense.com/general86/rebut.htm
This conpsiracy kook who promotes obvious nonsense published an article (just a few months ago) that blatantly lies about a very important fact in the film. GREER HAS BOTH HIS HANDS OFF THE WHEEL 4 seconds before he fires the fatal shot. He also places the gun in his left hand. This obvious truth is so scary to these kooks that they publish articles as recent as May, 2010. They are dreading the day when at least alot of people find out this shocking truth.

I have studied first-generation clear prints of the Zapruder film and it is apparent that while it may be questionable as to why Greer turned and looked back at Kennedy and then could not recall that fact for the Warren Commission, at no time did his two hands leave the steering wheel of the limousine. There are plenty of real conspiracies out there without dragging this old wheezer up again.
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THE FAT HILLBILLY HIMSELF...LOL
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/jimmarrs.jpg

7forever
04-02-2011, 04:54 PM
The back of jfk's head opens up after 312 but before 313. The impact's in the right front, not the right side.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/back-exit-slow_h_GIFSoupcom.gif

7forever
04-02-2011, 04:57 PM
Everyone can see, even the Kennedy Kooks that Greer's left arm is swiftly jerking over his right shoulder in unison with the headshot. CASE CLOSED, with no challenge from any lone nutter or ct'er like Groden and Marrs.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/quick-jerk_h_GIFSoupcom.gif
His arm does not technically cross in zapruder but instead, there are three points of fakery that cover the movements of Greer's gun, hand and arm.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/jfkriseup.gif

7forever
04-02-2011, 05:02 PM
Clint describes a massive exit that could have only been caused by that goon, Greer.

Clint Hill saw the massive hole on the right rear portion of his head.

Mr. HILL. This is the first sound that I heard; yes, sir. I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, ran to the Presidential limousine. Just about as I reached it, there was another sound, which was different than the first sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object--it seemed to have some type of an echo. I put my right foot, I believe it was, on the left rear step of the automobile, and I had a hold of the handgrip with my hand, when the car lurched forward. I lost my footing and I had to run about three or four more steps before I could get back up in the car.
Between the time I originally grabbed the handhold and until I was up on the car, Mrs. Kennedy--the second noise that I heard had removed a portion of the President's head, and he had slumped noticeably to his left. Mrs. Kennedy had jumped up from the seat and was, it appeared to me, reaching for something coming off the right rear bumper of the car, the right rear tail, when she noticed that I was trying to climb on the car. She turned toward me and I grabbed her and put her back in the back seat, crawled up on top of the back seat and lay there.

Mr. SPECTER. What did you observe as to President Kennedy's condition on arrival at the hospital?
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

The back of his head opens up at the moment of the front right impact.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/back-exit-slow_h_GIFSoupcom.gif
FRAME 337
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7forever
04-02-2011, 05:09 PM
Kellerman moved his head forward, backward and forward again in the space of 1 second (frames 296-314) in an attempt to block the gun's view from the north side of elm street and after to look like he's ducking bullets. Watch him look to his left towards Greer's chest. He was following the movement of the gun and Greer's arm. When Greer turned the second time, the gun was near his right collarbone, so all he did was push it up, over and shoot jfk directly in the forehead. Kellerman even throws his hand up to signal, it's time to shoot jfk. That is how ridiculously obvious it is. Minor things like that are normally ignored or written off as anomalies.

http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/greer2.gif
Watch the fake reflection recoil and separate from Roy's head.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/jfkwhitegifrecoil.gif

7forever
04-02-2011, 05:12 PM
With this old copy you can see the cartoon gun, arm and hand form perfectly before the fake reflection jolts backward in perfect unison with the headshot.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/jolt_h_GIFSoupcom.gif

7forever
04-04-2011, 05:22 PM
Not actually against your theory but at least give us a motive for each person in the car to make it more interesting.....:D
Jackie would have wanted him dead for publically humiliating him with his tarts....
the others...paid off perhaps?
Then there's the mafia, the CIA and everyone else that wanted him dead....so not much of a conspiracy.
But if it was done openly in public like this, my point is, surely it would have been a spur of the moment murder...because otherwise it is the most ridiculous assassination idea ever.....in an open top car, get the passenger to kill him and the rest of us say it was a shooter in the hills.....but what about the crowds that will see it?
So yes, I get what you are saying, you think it was someone in the car...I get that. But why? What motive? And was it spur of the moment or deliberately planned?
Even if you don't know - just give me your theory, that's all I was asking...:rolleyes:

Jackie wasn't look at him, so she didn't see Greer shoot although she may have realized it but who knows. Connally saw Greer shoot jfk and took it to his grave. They didn't say anything because it was a massive cover-up. Just imagine the governor of TX going against the media and government in the 60's. A complete joke. Of course it was ridiculous and that's the very reason why millions of americans should know about it. So, they can laugh at how retarded government can really be when their arrogance allows such an epic blunder.

Connally said he saw the fatal shot and quickly corrected himself but his reaction when looking at Greer proves he slipped up. Watch him hit the floor in horror once he realized Greer shot Kennedy.

Obviously, at least the major wound that I took in the shoulder through the chest couldn't have been anything but the second shot. Obviously, it couldn't have been the third, because when the third shot was fired I was in a reclining position, and heard it, saw it and the effects of it, rather--I didn't see it, I saw the effects of it--so it obviously could not have been the third, and couldn't have been the first, in my judgment.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/Greerconnally.gif

7forever
04-06-2011, 10:51 AM
So you cant explain it is the answer you're giving then?
You can't explain how JFK's head defy's physics by lurching forwards when the bullet impact hits. Instead you put your fingers in your ears, stamp your feet and act like a child. Name calling and using insults rather than debating the theories are how you want to go about things.
You can't explain how JFK's head 'could' defy physics by lurching forward when the bullet impact hits, then stops and changes direction, violently backwards.LOL You can't explain it because it's not possible and has never happened. Instead you put your fingers in your ears, stamp your feet and act like a child. Show us one headshot that shows what you are lying about. Goes forward, stops, then violently backward. You are a pathetic troll with nothing but bullshit. This man's head and body go forward from the shot to the back of the head. If jfk had been shot from the rear he would have went forward. These stupid posts of yours make you an idiot...Congrats.
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7forever
04-06-2011, 04:56 PM
Are there any in depth discussions of what appears to be J F K being shot by the driver of the limo, in the Zapruder film?
Does the driver pull a gun (as it appears) to return fire, then think escape a better option?
or does he mistakenly blow Kennedy's head off? this is discussed in one of Bill Cooper's lectures, even giving the agents name .
It just appears to be there if you look at the film.
Then again is there room for more paranoia??
Hell yeah!

It does appear that the driver does do it, but if you look closely and I did over and over and over and over... you will realize that it is a natural trick of the lighting that makes the reflection look like a gun. It wasn't the driver.
It does appear that the driver does it, and if you look closely and you did over and over and over and over... you realized that Greer's left arm crosses over his right shoulder in nix which explains why the fake reflection was added in Zapruder to cover the movements of Greer's gun which killed Kennedy. Thanks, for playing. It was the driver.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/quick-jerk_h_GIFSoupcom.gif

7forever
04-07-2011, 09:49 AM
Just because people don't believe you, doesn't mean they are a troll.

No matter what any person thought they knew about his case, they now know for certain that Greer killed jfk by learning that the left hand coming off the wheel at frame 304 in Zapruder is fake.
His hand is really by his shoulder in this sequence.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fakehandgifslow.gif
Fake hand starts with two dots.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fakehanddgif.gif
I am the first researcher on the planet who has proved Zfilm alteration by showing Greer's left arm crossing in nix.
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7forever
04-07-2011, 03:50 PM
The only ss agent who shot back was Greer. He fired the fatal shot.

Testimony Of Mrs. Jean Lollis Hill (http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/hill_j.htm)

Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?
Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know.

Read her testimony. She heard three shots which are identifiable by known and agreed upon shots. The first shot missed. The single bullet myth is 2 shots. There's three right there and Mary's affadavit provides the last two close together. There were at least 5 shots.
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7forever
04-10-2011, 05:04 PM
304 isn't the kill shot frame, so what no hand or arm OR GUN.
You know what else? He doesn't have a face on those frames either, very suspicious.
The point is very simple. Greer's left hand cannot be seen returning to the wheel in Zapruder but it can be seen crossing his shoulder in Nix and that is conclusive proof all by itself of the hand being faked at 304. Greer's left hand returned to the wheel after he shot jfk. Proving the hand is fake in Zapruder was done before I even got the nix close-up. That is how obvious this cover-up is.
The fake hand was placed there to mimic a hand and to give an excuse for not believing the clear visual that Greer shoots jfk in Zapruder. Because, if his hand is coming off the wheel a half second before the shot and does not cross, that gives plausible denial. This requires ignoring that both of Greer's hands are off the wheel 4 seconds before the shot with no visual evidence that his left hand returned to the wheel after the film pans upward. Greer's left arm crossing in Nix is all the proof anyone needed to confirm that the driver (William Robert Greer) fired the fatal shot which killed John F. Kennedy on 11-22-1963.

Left arm crosses in unison with headshot.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/quick-jerk_h_GIFSoupcom.gif
Greer passes gun and the film pans upward which causes his left hand to go missing.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/pass-slow_h_GIFSoupcom.gif
Fake hand with NO fake arm attachment...Frames 303-304.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/fakehandgifslow.gif
Zapruder Frames - Costella Combined Edit (http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm)

7forever
04-11-2011, 11:22 AM
The great fake reflection footage that started it all in 7-09.

-The fake blob recoils and separates from Roy's head when Greer fires revolver.
-The fake hand coming off wheel begins with 2 dots.
-They both make eye contact after turning back straight.
-Kellerman raises hand signaling that Greer's gonna shoot back.
-The white lane (by driver's door) comes into focus just in time to blend in with the fake grey streak which mirrored Greer's arm crossing that's seen in the nix film.
-The fake grey streak is over his shoulder first and then across when it's needed.
-The fake forehead reflection replacing Greer's hand is the only one that cannot be independently proven fake without the nix film or other evidence.
-Kellerman moves his head forward, backward and forward again in 1 second in an attempt to block the gun's view from the north side of Elm street.
-Watch the driver's door when Greer turns to shoot back. Something appears beneath the white lane which is very likely the curb.
-Watch the top of Greer's head after he shoots jfk. He still had a reflection, so they darkened it to distract from the silly fakery on Roy's head.
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Greer's arm crosses in nix, confirming the logical reasons for Zapruder film fakery.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/quick-jerk_h_GIFSoupcom.gif
YouTube - Jfk Assassination the limo driver theory Debunked (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jis_ZFspfY)

amour217
04-11-2011, 04:51 PM
Don't put too much weight into that.


That's what she said.






















Been a long time lol

7forever
04-14-2011, 10:02 AM
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You seem to have failed to read my post. I've read all of your "compelling evidence"...
to suggest they hall had a little clown car party pass along, isn't absurd or anything, it's just to fallible and risky.
I'm not claiming to know exactly what happened, but I'm getting tired of all this "compelling evidence" and testimony that is lacking.

You have NOT challenged anything I've posted, and saying the evidence is lacking is just you blowing hot air. It is not my evidence, but the evidence that proves Greer is the shooter, which should've been exposed by people born in 40's and 50's. I was born in the 70's and that fact is proof of how pathetic this case really is.

7forever
04-14-2011, 05:54 PM
Modern Kennedy research is exactly where the Nix film places it. First off, not ignoring that Greer passes the gun in Zapruder and second, seeing his left arm cross in Nix. That's the evidence right there. Two visual facts along with alot more that make Greer shooting jfk an irrefutable fact. In other words, there will never be any challenge posed against this truth. It will be ignored by researchers and the average person will laugh at how obvious it is.

Greer passes the gun in Z and his left hand goes missing because the film pans upward. There is no evidence in Zapruder that his left hand ever returned to the wheel. At least a few researchers have outright lied about Greer's hands not leaving the wheel when it's crystal clear in the frames.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/pass-slow_h_GIFSoupcom.gif
Greer's left arm crosses his right shoulder in Nix, proving the government generated illusion is an obvious truth confirmed by the Albert Nix film.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/quick-jerk_h_GIFSoupcom.gif