View Full Version : Bobcats Interested in Stephen Jackson??
Bobcat Matt
10-23-2009, 05:50 PM
Found this.... It's on the rumors section of espns nba page....If we were to offer or have offered, I wonder what the package was? I question how much better he could make us anyway...He is unhappy on his current non-playoff team, so I doubt his attitude would change much moving to another non-playoff team...Interesting.
The Golden State Warriors are still no closer to meeting Stephen Jackson's trade request, as his large contract and even larger attitude have had teams only offering one-sided deals.
Other possible Jackson suitors
* San Antonio. Ric Bucher reported the Spurs had interest in reuniting with Jackson, but it's been downplayed this week as "remote."
* Charlotte. Stein reports: "The only other team we've heard mentioned as a potential Jackson chaser is Charlotte, although we're obliged to note that the Bobcats weren't on Jackson's original wish list and don't exactly seem like his kind of team."
But as ESPN's Marc Stein writes, the Cavaliers and Nuggets are the two teams with the most "certifiable interest in dealing for Jackson."
"The Cavs, though, don't want to surrender Zydrunas Ilgauskas in a prospective deal because they want to keep all the size they can muster to throw at Boston, Orlando and the defending champs from L.A," he writes.
"Nuggets general manager Mark Warkentien, meanwhile, reminded folks this week that the front-office team in Denver is not afraid to swing big with Chauncey Billups in place to police any chemistry risks in the locker room."
man i hope not if they gotta take a big contract i would rather see us get rip instead, maybe they can swing a 3 way deal
bing!
10-23-2009, 06:00 PM
Wouldn't even touch him with a ten-foot pole.
MattD
10-23-2009, 08:24 PM
if he would want to play for us I would absolutely love it. send felton and bell (both expiring can be done after december 15) and get jax. dj jax gerald diaw chandler. MUCH better team. depth wise ehh, but still.
Ehh, nahhh, only because I think we'd have to give up too much and bring in too big of a contract.
Diop and Vladi is the only way I really like it. And that's when we add in Turiaf.
But ILBIT...
Chrystos
10-23-2009, 11:12 PM
Yes!! I would love to get a good scorer like him. He may have attitude problems,but oh well.
Ghost Kat
10-24-2009, 12:59 AM
I like the guy, But don't want him here.
Fred Williamson
10-24-2009, 02:54 AM
I hate this crazy ****, and I don't want him here.
I respect his game as a basketball player but I have no desire whatsoever to have him on our team.
Double_Trouble
10-24-2009, 08:07 AM
I like the three team trade idea with Charlotte, Cleveland and Golden State. The only way Cleveland can make a trade for Jackson and keep Ilgauskas is by involving three teams. What about this trade. We will recieve JJ Hickson and Daniel Gibson and give up Raja Bell to Golden State. It works in the trade machine. Click the link.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yggkl95
spectre
10-24-2009, 08:54 AM
I doubt Cleveland moves Hickson, and esp. for Jack.
They like Hickson (for good reasons) so I doubt that also...the Cavs want him without giving up any talent...doubt that happens...
kickazzz2000
10-24-2009, 11:49 AM
Wouldn't even touch him with a ten-foot pole.
this 10char
Weezy21
10-24-2009, 03:02 PM
he does seem to have some character issues that id be worried about, but the truth is, this guy can play...an we need some more scrappy players like him if we want to do anythang this year....the man can score an plays solid defense
now i dont know who we would offer...iv read on some of these threads that we prolly couldnt trade raja cuz of his wrist...but if we could,
raja,lexy an a 1st for jackson would be my first option....dont know if the warriors would do that tho
2nd option would be vlad, lexy an a first....again, dont know how desperate the warriors are
but i agree with MattD that a roster looking like this:
c-tyson
pf-diaw
sf-gerald
sg-sjax
pg-felton
woould be a lot better than our current roster with a injured raja....i love raja but he honestly wont do a thing for us if he isnt productive...we've already seen how bad he shot during the pre-season, this wrist problem isnt going to go away without surgery....so would yall rather watch another season with no playoffs or a season getting into that 7th seed??
i say we try our hardest to make one of these 2 trades
ammofan
10-24-2009, 03:04 PM
Yes bring him in! He will help us out! Especially if we can give them some expirings and they may take Raja even though hes hurt
ammofan
10-24-2009, 03:05 PM
he does seem to have some character issues that id be worried about, but the truth is, this guy can play...an we need some more scrappy players like him if we want to do anythang this year....the man can score an plays solid defense
now i dont know who we would offer...iv read on some of these threads that we prolly couldnt trade raja cuz of his wrist...but if we could,
raja,lexy an a 1st for jackson would be my first option....dont know if the warriors would do that tho
2nd option would be vlad, lexy an a first....again, dont know how desperate the warriors are
but i agree with MattD that a roster looking like this:
c-tyson
pf-diaw
sf-gerald
sg-sjax
pg-felton
woould be a lot better than our current roster with a injured raja....i love raja but he honestly wont do a thing for us if he isnt productive...we've already seen how bad he shot during the pre-season, this wrist problem isnt going to go away without surgery....so would yall rather watch another season with no playoffs or a season getting into that 7th seed??
i say we try our hardest to make one of these 2 trades
Yeah that lineup is NASTY. We are way better than Philly and Atlanta really with that lineup. And we will have DJ, Flip and Hendo off the bench.....
LB4President
10-24-2009, 03:17 PM
Love to have him but I think that is a pipe dream. I said offer Bell as an expiring contract and Alexis to make salaries work and give them a potentially good player, but so far this board seems unreceptive. Also I don't even think Golden State would like that. THey have a better version of Alexis already in Randolph. There is my two cents
davcbow
10-24-2009, 03:30 PM
he does seem to have some character issues that id be worried about, but the truth is, this guy can play...an we need some more scrappy players like him if we want to do anythang this year....the man can score an plays solid defense
now i dont know who we would offer...iv read on some of these threads that we prolly couldnt trade raja cuz of his wrist...but if we could,
raja,lexy an a 1st for jackson would be my first option....dont know if the warriors would do that tho
2nd option would be vlad, lexy an a first....again, dont know how desperate the warriors are
but i agree with MattD that a roster looking like this:
c-tyson
pf-diaw
sf-gerald
sg-sjax
pg-felton
woould be a lot better than our current roster with a injured raja....i love raja but he honestly wont do a thing for us if he isnt productive...we've already seen how bad he shot during the pre-season, this wrist problem isnt going to go away without surgery....so would yall rather watch another season with no playoffs or a season getting into that 7th seed??
i say we try our hardest to make one of these 2 trades
I think we need to trade Raja if we can, he gets hurt all the time. He got hurt 2 times last season right in critical situations of our season. I feel we need to get the injury prone people off the team.... Don't get me wrong I like Raja for his defense but he isn't doing us any good getting hurt all the time.
Marvel
10-24-2009, 09:32 PM
I don't have any problem with S-Jax requesting a trade,his motive was to play on a playoff/championship team and he's much more durable than Raja i mean i love Raja to death but he's not helping us on the bench.
TheBeagle
10-25-2009, 12:21 AM
Funny enough, I just started an "Associaton" with GSW on 2K10 and my first order of business was shipping Jackson to the Nets for TWill and Rafer Alston (subsequently shipped Alston to OKC for my boy Kyle Weaver, but that's beside the point), so suffice to say, if I didn't want the malcontent on my digital team, I wouldn't cotton to having him on my real-life team!
I don't care who we sign but I don't feel good about going into the season with Flip or Gerald as our starting SG.
davcbow
10-25-2009, 02:30 AM
I don't care who we sign but I don't feel good about going into the season with Flip or Gerald as our starting SG.
Who does? ILBIT in doing whats best for the team... We dont want to give up too much for a SG that would only make us weak at another position... so once again I say ILBITwill do whats best for the the team....:cool:
Ghost Kat
10-25-2009, 12:37 PM
I would much rather keep Lexy and work out his problems then pick up an expensive trouble maker. What first we get J-Rich then Jackson? Probably just to trade him a year from now.
davcbow
10-25-2009, 05:50 PM
Im 100% in favor of keeping my favorite 7' French kid....:biggrin:
LiquidWayno
10-25-2009, 07:41 PM
Straight up Vlad for Captain Jack works on ESPN trade machine -Vlad would fit their system well, Jackson could start here & we are more of a playoff contender than Golden State. Jackson would probably play defense more often than Vlad too.
Straight up Vlad for Captain Jack works on ESPN trade machine -Vlad would fit their system well, Jackson could start here & we are more of a playoff contender than Golden State. Jackson would probably play defense more often than Vlad too.
Why not add in Diop's bad contract and get some relief on the back end for us, since we'd have a huge add-in in a few years? Diop won't play much anyway...
docend24
10-25-2009, 08:53 PM
Wouldn't even touch him with a ten-foot pole.
Of course, he would still attack you.
Weezy21
10-25-2009, 09:08 PM
I would much rather keep Lexy and work out his problems then pick up an expensive trouble maker.
are us serious?? lexy does NOTHING for us! u would honestly like to keep lexy over getting a good sg?? thats definitly kissing the playoffs good bye
ammofan
10-25-2009, 09:35 PM
are us serious?? lexy does NOTHING for us! u would honestly like to keep lexy over getting a good sg?? thats definitly kissing the playoffs good bye
exactly!!!!!!
are us serious?? lexy does NOTHING for us! u would honestly like to keep lexy over getting a good sg?? thats definitly kissing the playoffs good bye
It's not that I'd rather have Lexy, but I'd rather have 1.3 mil and 5 mil on Raja than 10 mil on Cap'n Jack.
Remember, going over the luxery tax not only costs us whatever we are over, but also we lose the 3 mil for being under the tax. Bob J isn't doint that. But Vladi and Gana (over 12 mil combined this yr, 13 next, then just Gana), Bobby J would love the money relief I think. And GSW would get someone who can play a little bit in Vladi and add some much needed depth to the frontcourt in Gana.
SWedd523
10-25-2009, 11:06 PM
Jackson only makes 7.7mil this coming year. That's for 21 points, 7 rebounds, and 5 assists.
By comparison, Radman makes 6.5 this year. So does Nazr, and Diop makes 6. I wouldn't call Jackson expensive in the least
LiquidWayno
10-25-2009, 11:23 PM
Golden State will want to run & score points...Diop doesn't do either.
Weezy21
10-25-2009, 11:29 PM
It's not that I'd rather have Lexy, but I'd rather have 1.3 mil and 5 mil on Raja than 10 mil on Cap'n Jack.
Remember, going over the luxery tax not only costs us whatever we are over, but also we lose the 3 mil for being under the tax. Bob J isn't doint that. But Vladi and Gana (over 12 mil combined this yr, 13 next, then just Gana), Bobby J would love the money relief I think. And GSW would get someone who can play a little bit in Vladi and add some much needed depth to the frontcourt in Gana.
so would a vlad an lexy for jackson trade put us over the luxary?
an whats the latest on this whole rumor about us inquiring about him? has there been any new news?
so would a vlad an lexy for jackson trade put us over the luxary?
an whats the latest on this whole rumor about us inquiring about him? has there been any new news?
Vlad and Lexy works, barely. We'd be 500k below, I think.
And no news yet.
If we gave them Vlad and Lexy without picking up Lexy's option (trade after the first couple games) then we could sign him back after the season maybe?
davcbow
10-26-2009, 12:35 AM
Its a bad idea to give up Lexy no matter thr reason...:cool:
docend24
10-26-2009, 02:37 AM
It's not that I'd rather have Lexy, but I'd rather have 1.3 mil and 5 mil on Raja than 10 mil on Cap'n Jack.
I differ. I would rather have Lexy than Jackson cut and dry. Write that down you pathetic fools, mark my words :D I would rather gamble on highschool KG like kid and have ticket for bright future if it turns out for the best than have a brawl in Time Warner Arena and end to our chemistry.
Poke Jackson with ten foot stick if you dare...
docend24
10-26-2009, 02:39 AM
Jackson only makes 7.7mil this coming year. That's for 21 points, 7 rebounds, and 5 assists.
By comparison, Radman makes 6.5 this year. So does Nazr, and Diop makes 6. I wouldn't call Jackson expensive in the least
Well if you dig for really bad conttracts everybody would look like a perenial all star...
I differ. I would rather have Lexy than Jackson cut and dry. Write that down you pathetic fools, mark my words :D I would rather gamble on highschool KG like kid and have ticket for bright future if it turns out for the best than have a brawl in Time Warner Arena and end to our chemistry.
Poke Jackson with ten foot stick if you dare...
You underestimate the power of the Larry Brown :biggrin:
He only corralled that mess of a Pistons team to win a championship...one volatile player and a few guys who will pop off can't hurt...
davcbow
10-26-2009, 02:47 AM
You underestimate the power of the Larry Brown :biggrin:
He only corralled that mess of a Pistons team to win a championship...one volatile player and a few guys who will pop off can't hurt...
If you go rebuilding the team once again it will just make things go another year in the future.... To get the money straightened out I think we should stick with what we have and go with it... maybe some sort of small trade that helps the team and frees up more money off the cap.... But still I think it will be another mistake to trade Lexy... Look at Shannon Brown now.... even Ammo is playing better as of late.... glad to be rid of Ammo but sure do wish we had Shannon....:cool:
If you go rebuilding the team once again it will just make things go another year in the future.... To get the money straightened out I think we should stick with what we have and go with it... maybe some sort of small trade that helps the team and frees up more money off the cap.... But still I think it will be another mistake to trade Lexy... Look at Shannon Brown now.... even Ammo is playing better as of late.... glad to be rid of Ammo but sure do wish we had Shannon....:cool:
Well dav if S. Brown and Ammo are playing better it begs the question of why they did not do that with LB if he gets the best out of players?
Scottley Crue
10-26-2009, 12:35 PM
Well dav if S. Brown and Ammo are playing better it begs the question of why they did not do that with LB if he gets the best out of players?
A lot of it has to do with what system you put a guy in. Shaq didn't quite mesh with Phoenix, but I don't think that says anything bad about Shaq. Just not the best system for his talents. Shannon Brown has landed in a situation that suits his talents well. It's neither an indictment on LB or praise for Phil.
As for Ammo...I think he was mentally done before LB got here. I mean, he's in the league to score and when LB ran plays for him to do that, he practically ran away from the ball. He desperately needed a change of scenery and it might have helped him. (Still don't know how much burn he gets in the regular season, though.)
AmMo will never be able to play with the pressure on him.
Shannon needs to be somewhere that fits him, and thats the Triangle offense.
Not a bad mark on LB at all...
ammofan
10-26-2009, 05:11 PM
AmMo will never be able to play with the pressure on him.
Shannon needs to be somewhere that fits him, and thats the Triangle offense.
Not a bad mark on LB at all...
Adam has more pressure than ever on him right now.....and hes doing fine.
Adam has more pressure than ever on him right now.....and hes doing fine.
When's the last time he played a meaningful game and had to shoot? I believe it was with the 'Cats, and I believe he got traded with a promising young player for a bad contract...
Fred Williamson
10-26-2009, 06:01 PM
Ammo's career is over, after this season.
dnbman
10-26-2009, 06:22 PM
Adam has more pressure than ever on him right now.....and hes doing fine.
I wish the guy well and hope he has a great career. However, he is under ZERO pressure to perform right now. The Lakers would love to have him be a sniper off the bench, but they'll be perfectly o.k. for him to never dress again. Now, he if wants an NBA career, he does need to show that he can still play. However, he has no pressure there like he had here, where people expected him to perform as a top player on a struggling team, which he really never did.
As for Shannon, they've thrown a ton of pgs in the Laker's triangle offense. The only think they've really asked their pgs to do is limit the other pg and stretch the offense, taking advantage if you have a wide open look. As others have stated, Shannon is just in the perfect system, not taking his game to any new level.
SWedd523
10-26-2009, 08:25 PM
I wouldn't call 5 points and 1 rebound in 18 minutes against scrubs "doing fine"
ammofan
10-26-2009, 08:37 PM
I wish the guy well and hope he has a great career. However, he is under ZERO pressure to perform right now. The Lakers would love to have him be a sniper off the bench, but they'll be perfectly o.k. for him to never dress again. Now, he if wants an NBA career, he does need to show that he can still play. However, he has no pressure there like he had here, where people expected him to perform as a top player on a struggling team, which he really never did.
As for Shannon, they've thrown a ton of pgs in the Laker's triangle offense. The only think they've really asked their pgs to do is limit the other pg and stretch the offense, taking advantage if you have a wide open look. As others have stated, Shannon is just in the perfect system, not taking his game to any new level.
How is he NOT under pressure to perform? Even if its 1 or 2 threes a game? This is a critical contract year and he HAS step it up if he wants to play in the NBA next year!
davcbow
10-26-2009, 08:42 PM
How is he NOT under pressure to perform? Even if its 1 or 2 threes a game? This is a critical contract year and he HAS step it up if he wants to play in the NBA next year!
Same thing I was thinking...:cool:
dnbman
10-26-2009, 08:56 PM
How is he NOT under pressure to perform? Even if its 1 or 2 threes a game? This is a critical contract year and he HAS step it up if he wants to play in the NBA next year!
No he doesn't. He can throw up a few three pointers here and there and ride NBA benches for the rest of his career. He may never be a good player, but he doesn't have to do much to make some NBA cheddar and spend the rest of his life playing golf and Halo tournaments.
Weezy21
10-26-2009, 09:42 PM
I wish the guy well and hope he has a great career.
y?? the dude is a jerk
dnbman
10-26-2009, 10:13 PM
y?? the dude is a jerk
Ammo? I don't have any reason to call him a jerk.
y?? the dude is a jerk
He's not a jerk, he just can't handle being "The Guy" like he was asked to be in Charlotte.
and ammofan, you're just wrong on that. Sorry. Get back to me in season...
Weezy21
10-27-2009, 12:35 AM
He's not a jerk, he just can't handle being "The Guy" like he was asked to be in Charlotte.
ever met him? he thinks he's the shit an thinks he's better than anybody
ever met him? he thinks he's the shit an thinks he's better than anybody
I guarantee you talk to him now and he isn't like that. And if he is and I'm wrong, he won't we playing in a year.
And trust me, if you got drafted #3, were on the cover of a videogame, and were on an All-Rookie team, you'd think you were the shit too.
You're gameday staff right? How many players treat you well? I'm sure AmMo wasn't the only jerk.
davcbow
10-27-2009, 01:17 AM
I guarantee you talk to him now and he isn't like that. And if he is and I'm wrong, he won't we playing in a year.
And trust me, if you got drafted #3, were on the cover of a videogame, and were on an All-Rookie team, you'd think you were the shit too.
You're gameday staff right? How many players treat you well? I'm sure AmMo wasn't the only jerk.
Teej people just dont like people that go around acting like their shit dont stink. Not trying to be a smart ass just telling it like it is.....:cool:
Teej people just dont like people that go around acting like their shit dont stink. Not trying to be a smart ass just telling it like it is.....:cool:
Oh I don't either. But I certainly understand their mindset, he was a 20-something fresh out of college and was told he was the best scorer in NCAA hoops, the 'Cats FO told him he was the future, the media told him he was all that, and he was chillin with MJ. I don't approve of it, but I certainly understand it. Like Vick's dogfighting.
docend24
10-27-2009, 10:06 AM
Adam has more pressure than ever on him right now.....and hes doing fine.
opt out for some Lakers board please. (Yeah, that's Hell I know)
LiquidWayno
10-27-2009, 01:33 PM
I bet he plays in Russia next year...damn Marx-worshipping Commie
ammofan
10-27-2009, 02:55 PM
ever met him? he thinks he's the shit an thinks he's better than anybody
actually i have met him.....and he wasnt a jerk.
ammofan
10-27-2009, 02:58 PM
He's not a jerk, he just can't handle being "The Guy" like he was asked to be in Charlotte.
and ammofan, you're just wrong on that. Sorry. Get back to me in season...
Excuse me? How is he not under more pressure thane ver? HIS CAREER IS ON THE LINE...Its like you have a low d in a class and you have a final which will dictate whether you pass the class or not. You are under more pressure than ever to pass that final and if you dont then you fail. Same thing is going on with Adam except the test is a season and he has to play well enough to get a contract.
Excuse me? How is he not under more pressure thane ver? HIS CAREER IS ON THE LINE...Its like you have a low d in a class and you have a final which will dictate whether you pass the class or not. You are under more pressure than ever to pass that final and if you dont then you fail. Same thing is going on with Adam except the test is a season and he has to play well enough to get a contract.
Except that he hasn't played a damn game, Jesse. Preseason doesn't mean anything. Summer League means even less. I know you want to kiss his ass, but at least try to see it from a realistic view. Until he performs in a regular season game, or postseason, it doesn't mean anything. :facepalm:
Until he performs in a regular season game, or postseason, it doesn't mean anything. :facepalm:
Or at least until he even gets into a regular season game.
Last night, he was the only active Laker to ride the pine all night...looks like he is really progressing.
Weezy21
10-28-2009, 12:36 PM
actually i have met him.....and he wasnt a jerk.
then he puts on a front for fans
LiquidWayno
10-28-2009, 12:59 PM
If he gets anything more than garbage time, I would be shocked. Better chance he is moved as an expiring contract.
ammofan
10-28-2009, 05:00 PM
Except that he hasn't played a damn game, Jesse. Preseason doesn't mean anything. Summer League means even less. I know you want to kiss his ass, but at least try to see it from a realistic view. Until he performs in a regular season game, or postseason, it doesn't mean anything. :facepalm:
WTF? He is still in the last yr of his contract so he has to prove SOMETHING to get a new contract next year...whether its in practice or in a game. He has to be under pressure to prove himself in any way he can....sorry but YOUR wrong....
dnbman
10-28-2009, 05:52 PM
WTF? He is still in the last yr of his contract so he has to prove SOMETHING to get a new contract next year...whether its in practice or in a game. He has to be under pressure to prove himself in any way he can....sorry but YOUR wrong....
OK, if he's under pressure to be the 12th man of an NBA team, then he's just another of hundreds of guys with the same kind of talent-- blue collar guys just trying to bust their butts for NBA contracts. Considering the big money contract and endorsements he's already made, I don't see him having that much comparative pressure.
What do I know, though? Who knows how the guy feels or how motivated he is?
ammofan
10-28-2009, 06:45 PM
OK, if he's under pressure to be the 12th man of an NBA team, then he's just another of hundreds of guys with the same kind of talent-- blue collar guys just trying to bust their butts for NBA contracts. Considering the big money contract and endorsements he's already made, I don't see him having that much comparative pressure.
What do I know, though? Who knows how the guy feels or how motivated he is?
IDK how he feels or whatveer either BUT from what I have heard, he was one of the FEW guys off the Lakers who were busting their butts off this summer to get a spot. And he obviously is making enough of an impression on Phil because Phil said that Mo was the BEST shooter in camp. Just saying(and I know camp is not the reg season Teej.....)
And what you said about there being lots of guys t be 12th man, thats why he is under more pressure than ever. He better produce and be some kind of asset to this team or else he is gone after this year.....thats why he is under more pressure than ever.
Just saying though.......this doesnt have to be a war lol
dnbman
10-28-2009, 07:20 PM
IDK how he feels or whatveer either BUT from what I have heard, he was one of the FEW guys off the Lakers who were busting their butts off this summer to get a spot. And he obviously is making enough of an impression on Phil because Phil said that Mo was the BEST shooter in camp. Just saying(and I know camp is not the reg season Teej.....)
And what you said about there being lots of guys t be 12th man, thats why he is under more pressure than ever. He better produce and be some kind of asset to this team or else he is gone after this year.....thats why he is under more pressure than ever.
Just saying though.......this doesnt have to be a war lol
It doesn't have to be a war, and I don't see it as one. However, the bottom line is that Ammo is a guy who never lived up to his billing, though he took the spotlight immediately with endorsement deals before he was even drafted. He's at best a bench scoring shooter and at worst a motivational speaker.
ammofan
10-29-2009, 11:02 AM
It doesn't have to be a war, and I don't see it as one. However, the bottom line is that Ammo is a guy who never lived up to his billing, though he took the spotlight immediately with endorsement deals before he was even drafted. He's at best a bench scoring shooter and at worst a motivational speaker.
i know he has been a bust really but that......you know what never mind......
End of conversation......
any news or rumors about STEPHEN JACKSON???
Fred Williamson
10-29-2009, 12:03 PM
any news or rumors about STEPHEN JACKSON:confused:
Yes, it is reported that he still sucks.
MattD
10-29-2009, 04:32 PM
stephen jackson does not suck, but probably wouldnt be right for this team. but we need any kind of scoring. it wont happen though, not with tight walleted bobby j and our horrendous cap situation... nazr diop and radman for more than 18 mill!
Marvel
10-30-2009, 05:05 AM
Yes, it is reported that he still sucks.
You mean the guy who averaged 20ppg,6apg and 5 boards over the last 2 seasons.........just checking if it's the same Stephen Jackson
davcbow
10-30-2009, 10:29 AM
You mean the guy who averaged 20ppg,6apg and 5 boards over the last 2 seasons.........just checking if it's the same Stephen Jackson
After the stats of the first game, we could use stats like that...:cool:
After the stats of the first game, we could use stats like that...:cool:
Yet some people don't understand that fielding a team of likeable guys gets you 59 ppg...
BETCATS
10-30-2009, 11:23 AM
after the preformance against Boston, i would be happy to get any help. Stephen Jackson would help.
Plus, he won a NBA championship as a Spur, and if he was willing to stay in line for Greg Popovich, he will stay in line for Larry Brown.
DJ-Jackson-Wallace-Diaw-Chandler or Felton-Jackson-Wallace-Diaw-Chandler will turn our team from a mess to a success. Plus, it would make Raja expendiable, and we could trade him for a power forward.
bing!
10-30-2009, 11:26 AM
We'll persevere through staying true to our principles, likeable and sucky. May Tymora smile upon us tonight.
If Stephen were the only answer to an unsolvable puzzle, I'd rather pine away pondering the solution than put him to use (I too am likeable and sucky).
dav7z
10-30-2009, 11:44 AM
I havn't read much of this thread . But getting Jackson won't be free. I saw Clevland is after him . Offering thair big back up center'
Just guessing we would be offering somthing like .
Diaw, DJ, for Jackson, Wright, Law.
Im thinking it would take somthing of that nature to get it done.
BETCATS
10-30-2009, 11:47 AM
I havn't read much of this thread . But getting Jackson won't be free. I saw Clevland is after him . Offering thair big back up center'
Just guessing we would be offering somthing like .
Diaw, DJ, for Jackson, Wright, Law.
Im thinking it would take somthing of that nature to get it done.
If we could get Randloph in place of Wright or Law i would do that deal
Ilguaskas is pathetic now. He's on par with, oh, Nazzy.
Diaw is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much to give up. No f'ing way. Ever. No. Uh-uh. Sorry.
Gana+Raja? For Jackson+Turiaf or Wright?
dav7z
10-30-2009, 12:07 PM
Ilguaskas is pathetic now. He's on par with, oh, Nazzy.
Diaw is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much to give up. No f'ing way. Ever. No. Uh-uh. Sorry.
Gana+Raja? For Jackson+Turiaf or Wright?
They not going to take our crap for Jackson , Gana + Raja and just give us Wright and Turiaf two solid players .
I can't see this working for either team.
Ilguaskas would be a much better option for them than Diop
Even if it was just for saving contract money.
Wright and Jack are both in the Don's doghouse, which means both can be had for less. They need a SF, so Raja fits, plus gives them salary relief. Gana gives them a much better frontcourt option than Z. At this point, Z is a corpse who can only shoot, and by the time he's halfway through this season, that might not even be there. I wouldn't take Z no matter what, no matter who I was.
If it needed to be Vlad and Raja I'd do it.
MattD
10-30-2009, 02:28 PM
Wright and Jack are both in the Don's doghouse, which means both can be had for less. They need a SF, so Raja fits, plus gives them salary relief. Gana gives them a much better frontcourt option than Z. At this point, Z is a corpse who can only shoot, and by the time he's halfway through this season, that might not even be there. I wouldn't take Z no matter what, no matter who I was.
If it needed to be Vlad and Raja I'd do it.
wright is out with shoulder problems... again. no thanks. jackson is not in nelson's doghouse, they are past it and jackson is very very good. there was one month last year when he played like one of the best players in the nba, close to averaging a triple double. gana and bell. hahaha. the chances of that working are the same as it working for lebron.
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