Charlotte Bobcats at Detroit Pistons 11/11

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Remember last season when Will Friggin Bynum lit us up for 26 4th quarter points?

For those that don't, just cozy on up to this video and partake in the atrocity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp6k3XfV-w0

Now tonight we aren't going to have to deal with any ridiculous garbage like that, Right? We're going to waltz into the Pistons arena Raja & DJ are going to knock down their shots, Boris is going to rebound, LB is going to give the rookies some minutes and Ray isn't going to turn the ball over...:rolleyes: And most importantly we're going to walk out of the door with a win and sitting at .500.

Go Bobcats!

[dav7z]

This should be a Bobcat win with effort. Rip and Prince both out can't help them none.
Felton .,Stuckey , Felton should win that battle
Bell,,,, Gordon .. If Bell can hold him under 20 we stand a good chance
Wallace,,,,Jerebko Biggest mismatch on the floor
Diaw ,, Villanueva, Instresting match up hear . I think Diaw defends a little better?
TC ,,,, B Wallace, If Chandler can't win this match up . He needs to be beanched


DJ , Bynum, Lets all hope DJ don't get abused by him again.

This team has no debth except Bynum. If we play decent it should be a Bobcat win.
Thoughts on thease match ups and predictions.
Bobcats 103, Pistons 92,
Pistons has no real defenders ready to play...

[ohara831]

I will feel much better about the team if they can pull off this victory. Tonight they have to man up and show some heart, fight and desire. Just get mad and go out there and bust someone's ass!

[spectre]

Pistons have the 13th ranked defense and the 19th ranked offense thus far.

I think it's going to be difficult...a lot like the Chicago game only instead of Noah abusing TC we'll probably have a Bass Part II situation with CV vs. Boris. Hopefully Boris will get up on the guy this game.

Raja will have to bring his A game defensively against Gordon and LB is going to have to watch the matchups (if Bynum is burning DJ change it up before it costs us 10-12 points).

[Walt Cronkite]

No Hamilton and Prince mean we need to take this one.

[Walt Cronkite]

For those with TWC in the triangle: the Special Events channel is active tonight, so you should be able to find the game on channel 145 at 7:30.

[spectre]

Detroit's last game was Sunday at home where they beat the Sixers 88 to 81 with both Rip & Prince out. Three days rest vs. us being on the ass end of a back to back.

Time to gut it out. No getting down early and the bench needs to help out.

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The enemy's game threads

The excellent Need4Sheed.com (http://need4sheed.com/2009/11/the-pistons-vs-the-bobcats.html) and PistonsForum.com (http://www.pistonsforum.com/november-2009/10675-vs-charlotte-bobcats-wednesday-november-11-7-30-pm.html)

[Raleigh_Cats_Fan]

Here is the online broadcast

http://channelsurfing.net/watch-nba-4.html

[rodimusprime]

Can't believe we are 4 point under dogs to a beat up Pistons team. C'mon guys! We can do this.

[millst2]

well there lineup did take out Orlando the other night. maybe we make a statement and say well they beat us, detroit beat magic and now we will beat the one who beat orlando :)

[spectre]

Raja out...Flip gets the start.

No video yet...the channelsurfing one is audio.

[millst2]

this is so sad. We have a lot of guys want to watch a game and can't. All trolling the threads like crackheads :)

I was telling teej they should simply let the games be shown on leaguepass and the nba would just cut them on a % of the revenues. So fukn Gay

[rsxnova]

I am interested in seeing how Flip does with a start.

[Walt Cronkite]

I am interested in seeing how Flip does with a start.

0-3, wide open look at a 3

[rsxnova]

Raymond 3!!!

[davcbow]

We are getting into our play too slow... Detroit covers up and then we cant get into the paint... We cant hit the side of a barn and bad passes already....:cool:

[Shrimpy_Jackson]

Anybody found a link yet?

[docend24]

link to ... anything? Pls.

[Bobcat Matt]

ray looks in control tonight, so far...if we can hit a few shots, we can beat this team....flip cant guard ben G thats for sure...so we gotta hope he is off tonight...its def not raja covering him

[spectre]

Not a thing. ATDHE just went to audio, so I'd say we're probably going to be without.

[rsxnova]

Ray is looking good tonight.

[Bobcat Matt]

bg is killing flip...flip just watches him as he shoots

[spectre]

UPS first sub?

Bynum vs. DJ Part II

[Raleigh_Cats_Fan]

incredible that this game is on tv in both markets and we can't watch it....simply amazing.

[rsxnova]

Nazzy is looking like a decent contract out there.

[spectre]

We're playing more in the paint and the refs are rewarding us for it. LB has to like that.

[jazzer89]

i really like the lineup of

Felton
Henderson
Brown
Wallace
Nazr

[rsxnova]

Flip
Hendo
Brown
Gerald
Nazzy

[spectre]

Flip with a buzzer beating 3!

[davcbow]

I like that lineup:cool:

[jazzer89]

Bynum likes playing the bobcats

[Bobcat Matt]

bynum just posterized TC...wow

[spectre]

Too many 3 shots.

[rsxnova]

Turn overs...

[spectre]

sigh. :facepalm:

[Bobcat Matt]

no chance at the playoffs...we play way TOO scatterbrained...anemic offense...all i heard was how effective chandler was at setting screens..yet he gets an offensive foul every other screen he sets...no post up game...so we have to shoot outside, YET we have no GOOD SHOOTERS!

[Chrystos]

no chance at the playoffs...we play way TOO scatterbrained...anemic offense...all i heard was how effective chandler was at setting screens..yet he gets an offensive foul every other screen he sets...no post up game...so we have to shoot outside, YET we have no GOOD SHOOTERS!

Yeah your exactly right.:(

[davcbow]

Why is it our starters come back in and we cant score and let Det take the lead???

[dnbman]

Did anyone see what happened with the b2b Villanueva steals on Felton?

[rsxnova]

Did anyone see what happened with the b2b Villanueva steals on Felton?

Yes i did:facepalm:

[dnbman]

Yes i did:facepalm:

and? What happened? Lost dribble? Bad passes?

[Bobcat Matt]

ray seriously passed it to air both times and he grabbed it...seriously

[spectre]

Can someone remind me why I'm sitting here watching a lagging gamecast and listening on the radio trying to follow this team?

CV & BG combined 12 of 19 for 28 points.

[dnbman]

ray seriously passed it to air both times and he grabbed it...seriously

Was he trying to advance it too far? Complete misread? Hail Mary?

[dnbman]

Can someone remind me why I'm sitting here watching a lagging gamecast and listening on the radio trying to follow this team?

Dunno. I quit last night and am just checking the boxscore tonight while reading Facebook stuff.

[spectre]

Boris letting his counterpart burn us two nights in a row.

And is Flip even trying to guard Gordon?

[Bobcat Matt]

no he is not..he is useless on D

[rsxnova]

Boris letting his counterpart burn us two nights in a row.

And is Flip even trying to guard Gordon?

I dont think he is.

[Walt Cronkite]

You guys are only disappointed because you have expectations. I learned seasons ago not to do that. It's not so bad, Detroit is a pretty good club playing at home on 3 days rest and we are in a back to back.

Tough matchup for us. We'll catch someone snoozing soon enough.

[davcbow]

Can someone remind me why I'm sitting here watching a lagging gamecast and listening on the radio trying to follow this team?

CV & BG combined 12 of 19 for 28 points.

B4ecause its your Charlotte Bobcats! I watch them through thick and thin....:cool:

[Bobcat Matt]

we are a joke

[rsxnova]

We are playing no D and have no scoring. DJ has played 2 mins and Radman has nothing. This night is full of :facepalm:

[spectre]

B4ecause its your Charlotte Bobcats! I watch them through thick and thin....:cool:

The key word. I'm hanging around even tho they won't allow me to watch them.

Point being...if they make it so impossible to see the damn games why try so hard to follow them? Not like they're doing anything on the court to give me a reason.

[ohara831]

Cannot believe we are being routed by a depleted Detroit team. This is sad.

[Walt Cronkite]

I think the savvy marketing move is making sure the potential (casual) fan base doesn't get to watch them until they are actually, you know... watchable.

[Walt Cronkite]

Cannot believe we are being routed by a depleted Detroit team. This is sad.

You better believe it, buster! This offense of ours is performing at epically bad levels!

[rsxnova]

If this is playing the right way, I want to be wrong.

[ohara831]

If this is playing the right way, I want to be wrong.

Classic! Have to give you some REP for that one!

[ohara831]

I think we can expect LB to start shaking things up. I think more trades will be coming as I have to think he realizes the obvious... we have heart, but very little talent. Dreams are being dashed as we speak. The hopes of so many BCP fans are being drained by horrible play.

[spectre]

I bet TC is thinking of all the games he don't get in foul trouble it had to be this one.

[rsxnova]

We will make a trade in 3 weeks. Over or Under?

[Walt Cronkite]

Underrrrrr

[davcbow]

I see visions of blowing this squad up... Its sad!:(

[davcbow]

To me its a lame excuse to keep saying they are tired. They may be tired but there is more wrong than just tired....:mad:

[teej]

I think the over/under should be 3 days...

Of the games to miss, I picked a good one to walk in late on. Holy cow, what's wrong. You're right dav, it's more than being tired.

[ohara831]

When an undermanned team who should at least be your equal absolutely humiliates you like this, someone has to have the heart to just friggin play with some fire!

[rsxnova]

So who do you guys think we will go after? There are guys like Sjax and AI that are on the market or will we go after someone else.

[BobcatsAllDay]

Why did we continue to trap the ball screen in the 3rd? Didn't seem to be productive. Looks like we're running the "flex offense", easy to guard....in college

This is will drive you to drink

[davcbow]

Yeah damn Bell is injured again, calf this time...:(

[BobcatsAllDay]

So who do you guys think we will go after? There are guys like Sjax and AI that are on the market or will we go after someone else.

I say AI if you're going to get somebody make it a future HOF w/ some gas left in the tank. The hell w/ the bad shots it can't get any worse. I hate knee jerk reactions to beat downs but we look so bad. It looks like an expansion team, we should be past that by now.

[davcbow]

Murry 4/13, Felton 4/12, Team 41% shooting, Det shooting 60% its bad

[rsxnova]

I won't be suprised if TC says F this shit and opts out.

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For those of you who couldn't find a feed to see this game, consider yourselves lucky.

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Will Friggin Bynum :facepalm:

[davcbow]

I think we should say hell with the vets and go with the young guys...:cool:

Is it time to blow this team up? Are we in denial?

[Walt Cronkite]

I won't be suprised if TC says F this shit and opts out.

LMFAO we should be so lucky...

[davcbow]

I have to say Nazzy is playing better than TC for sure...:cool:

[teej]

I think we should say hell with the vets and go with the young guys...:cool:

Is it time to blow this team up? Are we in denial?

LB just did. But we can't blow it up if we have any chance at the playoffs, it means too much to the team both monetarily and in fan and media respect.

[ohara831]

LMFAO we should be so lucky...

Yes! Get that $ off the payroll!

[spectre]

DJ hasn't taken a shot? Someone needs to tell him that now isn't the time to become a pass first pg.

[Scottley Crue]

I see visions of blowing this squad up... Its sad!:(
Yeah, it's hard not to think like that after this. They are just listless...and it's game #8 this season. I think it mainly has to do with the 'Cats having to go 100% at all times just to do what they do while most teams can do what the 'Cats do at 70-80%.

I'm usually pretty positive about everything, but I can't find much here. A trade HAS to be coming, and quick. They can't struggle to score like this the rest of the year.

[davcbow]

Yeah, it's hard not to think like that after this. They are just listless...and it's game #8 this season. I think it mainly has to do with the 'Cats having to go 100% at all times just to do what they do while most teams can do what the 'Cats do at 70-80%.

I'm usually pretty positive about everything, but I can't find much here. A trade HAS to be coming, and quick. They can't struggle to score like this the rest of the year.

I hope something happens. Something has to be done with Raja, he is injured all the damn time...

I'm afraid that we may end up losing GW to get anything and that would be a major blow. I say blow it up this crap is a disturbing mess...:(

[SWedd523]

YES UP 31! My Tar Heels are doing work right now.



Oh the Bobcats? Uh....... yeah about that......

[Scottley Crue]

I hope something happens. Something has to be done with Raja, he is injured all the damn time...

I'm afraid that we may end up losing GW to get anything and that would be a major blow. I say blow it up this crap is a disturbing mess...:(
Well, that' the good thing about having Flip and Hendo. We're much more braced for his injuries than last season.

I don't know if we lose GW or not. I'd greatly prefer not to, but if it can bring something in to help, then I'm for it.

[GoBobs]

Naz is our best player offer him a max deal and instruct him to take 26 shots a game!

[rsxnova]

I cant wait to hear the postgame speech

[Scottley Crue]

I cant wait to hear the postgame speech
Me too.

I'd also like to be a fly on the wall for the one he gives to the team. Or maybe not, as the paint might be peeling off the walls...

[davcbow]

Thank God its over.... 3rd loss in a row...:(

[Walt Cronkite]

I cant wait to hear the postgame speech

Will someone take notes, at least get the gist? GF took over the tv when the awful kept happening. I didn't protest, but I'd like to know what Brown has to say, since this is his baby.

[nfcchamp2004]

I think we should say hell with the vets and go with the young guys...:cool:

Is it time to blow this team up? Are we in denial?

Yes we should......I just want to keep crash.

Do you think a lineup of
DJ/Felts
Hendo
Crash
UPS
Jinx, Nazr

could do much worse.
maybe we lose by 33 instead of 23 but we get to see what we have in these young guys. I include Nazr cause sadly he is our best center right now and Jinx would have 2 fouls by the 9 min mark of the 1st qtr. I just don't want to see Vlad, Flip, or Diop if were rebuilding

[davcbow]

Yes we should......I just want to keep crash.

Do you think a lineup of
DJ/Felts
Hendo
Crash
UPS
Jinx, Nazr

could do much worse.
maybe we lose by 33 instead of 23 but we get to see what we have in these young guys. I include Nazr cause sadly he is our best center right now and Jinx would have 2 fouls by the 9 min mark of the 1st qtr. I just don't want to see Vlad, Flip, or Diop if were rebuilding

We would have to give up crash or felton or both to get any draft picks, if we are gonna blow it up then make it the big bang theory....

[rsxnova]

The locker room is closed...

[Scottley Crue]

Will someone take notes, at least get the gist? GF took over the tv when the awful kept happening. I didn't protest, but I'd like to know what Brown has to say, since this is his baby.
No presser by LB...still in locker room ripping into team according to Steve Martin.

As well he should be.

[Walt Cronkite]

Did they lock LB out?

[Walt Cronkite]

Dayumnnnnn

[rsxnova]

Did they lock LB out?

He probably stabbed someone with a fork.

[teej]

Did they lock LB out?

Nope. He brought them Ham Biscuits, they had to let him in :biggrin:

[Scottley Crue]

He probably stabbed someone with a fork.
He probably ordered someone to stab themselves with a fork.

[Toocool]

Disappointing loss. However, its good to see that Hendo got some good game time, which is all valuable experience. Also good to see Naz playing decently.

[TheBeagle]

Way to stick with that piece of shit starting unit the near entirety of the third quarter, Larry! God forbid, you make any personnel changes during a 12 point quarter with matador defense....If players are held accountable and called to task, goddamm it if the coach shouldn't be as well, and I think the old man is really putting up a shitty effort so far this season. Anyway, that's another subject.....

The only players I saw challenging shots tonight was Derrick and Henderson. On the other end, Nazr was the only competent thing working out there with no one close to a distant second. I could make peace with the Celtics loss; this one, however, was very fucking disturbing and makes me realize how little this franchise has progressed in 6 years, no matter how much we've been led to believe and delude ourselves into thinking otherwise. Fuck it, the year one squad took out the defending champ Pistons twice in '04-'05!!! Spinning wheels since '04...your Charlotte Bobcats.

Oh well, at least Michael Bourn got his first gold glove today and the Heels won.......

[Marvel]

Haha TC got dunked on by Will Bynum.............................CLASSIC and we totally sucked tonight and the night before................................. hang on we've always sucked:D:D DJ needs more playing time he's fading into oblivion with Hendo while Flip is taking 150 fga and can't play a lick of defense:facepalm:

[QC Thundercats]

Way to stick with that piece of shit starting unit the near entirety of the third quarter, Larry! God forbid, you make any personnel changes during a 12 point quarter with matador defense....If players are held accountable and called to task, goddamm it if the coach shouldn't be as well, and I think the old man is really putting up a shitty effort so far this season. Anyway, that's another subject.....


You know, I was watching that third quarter and was thinking the same thing, then it dawned on me that Larry was probably making a point... if the starters wanted to continue to be selfish and careless with the ball and not hustle, then he would let them keep playing their way and continue to get blown out.

At that point, the game was out of hand, and I think he wanted them to feel the frustration and helplessness, and in order to not feel that way again, then play Larry Brown's way.

[Keetch]

DVR inexplicably stopped recording about 1 minute into 3rd quarter. Thank goodness. It has more sense than I do.

Ended up watching Top Chef with wife instead and realized that those playas are much much more talented.

[Ghost Kat]

We all out sucked last night, That was shameful. :facepalm:

[davcbow]

DVR inexplicably stopped recording about 1 minute into 3rd quarter. Thank goodness. It has more sense than I do.

Ended up watching Top Chef with wife instead and realized that those playas are much much more talented.

Yeah all you missed was the back ups came in and played better...

[teej]

You know, I was watching that third quarter and was thinking the same thing, then it dawned on me that Larry was probably making a point... if the starters wanted to continue to be selfish and careless with the ball and not hustle, then he would let them keep playing their way and continue to get blown out.

At that point, the game was out of hand, and I think he wanted them to feel the frustration and helplessness, and in order to not feel that way again, then play Larry Brown's way.

Best post in this thread, hands down. Certainly explains the extended locker room chat :biggrin:

And keetch, Big Brother wants you to be happy :p

[Scottley Crue]

What QC Thundercats said. I was thinking the same thing. It very much seemed to me that he was saying, "Ok, you try YOUR way for the rest of this game and we'll just see how this turns out." Then I'm sure he reminded them of how it turned out after the game was over.

[TheBeagle]

What QC Thundercats said. I was thinking the same thing. It very much seemed to me that he was saying, "Ok, you try YOUR way for the rest of this game and we'll just see how this turns out." Then I'm sure he reminded them of how it turned out after the game was over. This may be the case, but Larry's mentor, Coach Smith would handle things differently, and IMO better by benching their asses for the rest of the game and giving minutes to guys who give effort. What sort of message is it to give MORE minutes to guys who give LESS effort? If I'm sitting on the bench, what I'd infer from that would be, "Okay, I play like shit, I get more burn? Got it." Like I said, my faith in Larry is waning by the day....

[teej]

This may be the case, but Larry's mentor, Coach Smith would handle things differently, and IMO better by benching their asses for the rest of the game and giving minutes to guys who give effort. What sort of message is it to give MORE minutes to guys who give LESS effort? If I'm sitting on the bench, what I'd infer from that would be, "Okay, I play like shit, I get more burn? Got it." Like I said, my faith in Larry is waning by the day....

No, it was a one time thing. You know better, Beagle. You've seen him take guys out for doing stupid ass shit. This was what is called a "come to Jesus" moment. As in these guys are figuring out the only way to salvage their reputations, contracts, or careers is to totally and 110% buy in to what he's saying, and he wanted them to experience what happens when they ignore him. My middle school football coach did it and it worked to perfection. We ignored him to start off with because we'd won 4 straight conference titles and were a bunch of arrogant pricks, we started 0-2, then lost 55-14 to our rivals, he left the starters in all game to taste the loss, after that we went 5-0.

It works, Beagle. Trust me.